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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 19 Noembrioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Na sas enhmerwsw, eisagwgikws, gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy tis epomenes hmeres:

Ayth thn wra, synantatai me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias Kwnstantino Stefanopoylo. Stis 2 meta to meshmeri, qa exei synergasia me to Grammatea ths K.E. toy PASOK Kwsta Laliwth. Stis 7 to brady, qa ginei atyph koinh synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs kai toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy toy Kinhmatos, me qema ton politiko sxediasmo ths trietias gia kybernhsh kai komma.

Ayrio, stis 10.30 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa milhsei sth synedriash ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas toy PASOK. Stis 6.30 to apogeyma, qa dexqei thn antiproedro ths rwsikhs kybernhshs k. Balentina Matbienko kai stis 7 qa exei synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Anaptyjhs Akh Tsoxatzopoylo.

Thn Tetarth, stis 10 to prwi, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, me qema ton Proypologismo. O Proypologismos qa katateqei to apogeyma ths idias hmeras apo ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn Niko Xristodoylakh, paroysia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, sth Boylh. Amesws meta thn kataqesh toy Proypologismoy o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synergasia me ton ypoyrgo Ygeias kai Pronoias Aleko Papadopoylo.

Thn Pempth, stis 12 to meshmeri, qa dexqei ton Proedro ths Roymanias k. Ilieskoy, o opoios apo thn Tetarth pragmatopoiei epishmh episkech sth xwra mas.

Thn Paraskeyh, stis 10.30 to prwi, qa apanthsei se erwthseis poy tyxon qa ypoblhqoyn sth Boylh, sto plaisio ths "Wras toy Prwqypoyrgoy". Stis 12 to meshmeri, qa dexqei ton ekproswpo ths DOE k. Ntenis Osbalnt.

Th Deytera (26/11), stis 12 to meshmeri, qa synedriasei h Diypoyrgikh Epitroph gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

FASOYLAS: Qa hqela na sxoliasete th qetikh apanthsh, symfwna me plhrofories apo th Leykwsia, poy edwse o Proedros Klhridhs na synanthqei me ton Raoyf Ntenktas. Kai deyteron, ean exete plhroforia poy qa ginei ayth h synanthsh; Sth Leykwsia h se allh eyrwpaikh polh kai poioi qa paristantai sth synanthsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws gnwrizete yphrjan dyo synennohseis gia to qema ayto. O k. Klhridhs eipe oti gia na exei nohma ayth h synanthsh qa prepei na ginei sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy OHE. Kai meta apo thn arxikh apanthsh kai ths toyrkokypriakhs pleyras, o k. Klhridhs dieykrinise oti qa prepei na parabrisketai kai ekproswpos toy OHE. Einai, loipon, safes oti h pragmatopoihsh ayths ths synanthshs, shmainei thn apodoxh toy plaisioy poy eqese o OHE kai me thn paroysia ekproswpoy toy. Ayto einai to krisimo kai shmantiko zhthma gia mas kai ayto einai to shmeio poy prepei na epishmanoyme.

PITTARAS: Symfwnei h diafwnei h kybernhsh me thn protash ths k. Diamantopoyloy na kaqierwqei ws deyterh epishmh glwssa h agglikh;

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh exei topoqethqei, opws gnwrizete, me tis dhlwseis toy armodioy ypoyrgoy Paideias Petroy Eyqymioy. Apo ekei kai pera qelw na epishmanw kai na parapemcw sthn pro oligoy topoqethsh ths k. Diamantopoyloy se synenteyjh ths se radiofwniko staqmo. Dieykrinise oti einai anagkaio to epishmo kratos na analabei thn eyqynh ths ejasfalishs ths glwssomaqeias, poy einai aparaithth gia th sygxronh epoxh, xwris na yparxei h anagkh ths epikyrwshs ayths ths glwssomaqeias apo kapoioys jenoys h alloys idiwtikoys organismoys.

KAPPOS: Se synexeia ths erwthshs toy synadelfoy gia to Kypriako. Dedomenoy oti yparxei ayth h ejelijh ths osonoypw synanthshs Klhridh-Ntenktas, apo thn allh pleyra, apo thn pleyra Gilmaz, yphrje mia dhlwsh poy leei ligo-poly oti mallon briskomaste sta proqyra ejeyreshs kapoioy plaisioy gia synomilies. Exei thn aisqhsh h ellhnikh kybernhsh oti briskomaste se kapoia kinhtikothta gia to Kypriako h oti prokyptei kati tetoio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto prepei na apodeixqei stis synomilies poy qa ginoyn. Emeis qeloyme na breqei lysh sto Kypriako. Ayto einai safes. Einai eyktaio, einai epiqymhto. Ergazomaste gia na yparxei mia dikaih lysh toy Kypriakoy sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy OHE. Apo ekei kai pera, den mporw na jerw ayth th stigmh, poia qa einai h ejelijh twn synomiliwn. Ekeino poy exw na pw, me aformh orismenes dhlwseis poy ginontai apo koryfaioys Toyrkoys ajiwmatoyxoys, einai oti qa htan pragmatika laqos me aformh thn poreia entajhs ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias sthn E.E. -h opoia opws fainetai mpainei kai sthn telikh ths eyqeia, xwris na shmainei oti exei oloklhrwqei to qema, symfwna kai me tis apofaseis poy exoyn lhfqei sth Synodo Koryfhs toy Elsinki- na yparjei antiparaqesh metajy ths Toyrkias kai ths E.E..

KAPPOS: Se dyo alla dieqnh qemata: Qa hqela to sxolio sas gia ta apotelesmata twn boylgarikwn eklogwn, xqes.

PRWTOPAPAS: Synergazomaste me th geitona xwra kai den parembainoyme sta eswterika qemata ths. Qa sygxaroyme to neoeklegenta proedro. Epiqymoyme thn kalh synergasia me th Boylgaria. Eimaste geitones, prepei na synergazomaste.

KAPPOS: Ki ena deytero erwthma kontino, gewgrafika, epeidh yphrjan to Sabbato, ekloges sto Kossyfopedio -toylaxiston oi statistikes lene oti yphrje megalh apoxh apo pleyras Serbwn- me dedomeno oti stis dynameis ths KFOR poy ypotiqetai oti qa diasfalizan kai to adiablhto twn eklogwn, yphrxan kai Ellhnes. Exei kapoio sxolio h ellhnikh kybernhsh se sxesh me ayto to distagmo twn Serbwn na nomimopoihsoyn me thn paroysia toys thn eklogikh diadikasia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qa mpw se eswterika zhthmata twn eklogwn. Exoyn diafanei kapoia apotelesmata poy deixnoyn oti yphrje mia qetikh ejelijh sto qema ths apokatastashs ths omalothtas se mia idiaitera krisimh perioxh. Kai me ayth thn ennoia den exoyme kanena logo na mhn eimaste ikanopoihmenoi.

KARGOYDH: Qa hqela na rwthsw gia ta epeisodia, pro dihmeroy, ston hlektriko sidhrodromo, epeisodia poy eixan ws apotelesma polloys traymatismoys, biaiothtes, bandalismoys kai kamia syllhch. Qa hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs.

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh exei ekfrasei th lyph ths gi ayta ta epeisodia kai exei parei tis apofaseis ths poy anakoinwqhkan, xqes, apo ton armodio ypoyrgo Xrhsto Berelh. Qa topoqethqoyn eidikoi froyroi kai stoys staqmoys toy Hlektrikoy (HSAP). Einai safes oti qa laboyme ola ta anagkaia metra gia na prostatecoyme toys sympolites mas kai na diasfalisoyme thn koinwnikh galhnh. O poliths prepei na aisqanetai asfalhs otan xrhsimopoiei ta mesa mazikhs metaforas. Den prepei na epanalhfqoyn tetoia fainomena.

GARGALAKOS: Para tis ekklhseis ths kybernhshs gia dialogo klimakwnontai oi kinhtopoihseis twn agrotwn. Exete kapoio sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas exw pei kai to epanalambanw oti h kybernhsh toy PASOK, edw kai para polla xronia, epidiwkei mia poreia symporeyshs me ton Ellhna agroth kai ta problhmata toy. Exoyme, pragmati, edw kai polla xronia, mia poreia stenhs sxeshs me ton agrotiko xwro. Thn eixame, thn exoyme kai qa synexisoyme na thn exoyme. Epidiwkoyme staqera na dwsoyme lyseis sta problhmata twn agrotwn. Ayto einai to zhtoymeno. Gia paradeigma, yparxei to qema twn kapnwn, gia to opoio ginetai kai h shmerinh kinhtopoihsh. Qelw na epishmanw oti h maxh poy qa dwsoyme kai ayrio sto Symboylio Ypoyrgwn Gewrgias ths E.E. kai stis kat` idian synanthseis poy qa akoloyqhsoyn, aposkopei akribws sto na prostateysei ta symferonta twn Ellhnwn kapnoparagwgwn. Eimaste apofasismenoi na laboyme ola ta anagkaia metra gia na prostateysoyme ta symferonta toy Ellhna agroth kai eidikws, sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh, toy Ellhna kapnoparagwgoy. Qelw na to dieykrinisw ayto. Den prokeitai na symfwnhsoyme me th logikh toy chfismatos to opoio exei katateqei gia thn tropopoihsh toy Proypologismoy, to opoio odhgei antikeimenika se diakoph twn epidothsewn gia ton Ellhna kapnoparagwgo. Exoyme epishmanei oti einai idiaitera arnhtiko kai katastrofiko to gegonos oti to chfisma ayto to prowqei to Eyrwpaiko Laiko Komma. Kai edw tiqetai ena erwthma: Poia einai h pragmatikh apoch ths Neas Dhmokratias; Dioti prepei na lhfqei ypoch oti o k. Karamanlhs einai antiproedros toy Eyrwpaikoy Laikoy Kommatos. Ean pragmatika -kai oxi me "krokodeilia dakrya"- o k. Karamanlhs qelei na prostateysei ta symferonta twn Ellhnwn kapnoparagwgwn, den exei para na apeyqynqei sto komma toy opoioy einai antiproedros, se eyrwpaiko epipedo, kai na stamathsei ayto to aparadekto chfisma. Emeis qa laboyme ola ta anagkaia metra gi ayto. Pera apo ayto, yparxei kai to qema toy bambakioy: Qelw na epishmanw oti badizoyme me bash to xronodiagramma poy sas eixa dwsei se prohgoymenh anafora moy. Hdh, qa exete plhroforhqei, apo sxetikes anakoinwseis ths Paraskeyhs kai qa plhroforhqeite, epishs, apo shmerines anakoinwseis toy yfypoyrgoy Gewrgias Baggelh Argyrh, oti exoyn lhfqei sobara metra poy apodidoyn gia na mhn yparjei kamia energeia (kata th diarkeia twn dhlwsewn kai ths paradoshs toy bambakioy sta ekkokkisthria), h opoia qa odhghsei se plastes katastaseis kai se zhthmata poy qigoyn to symferon toy Ellhna bambakoparagwgoy. Exoyme dwsei idiaitero baros, exoyme kinhqei me aysthrothta ston tomea ayto kai hdh yparxoyn ta prwta apotelesmata apo energeies poy exoyn apodwsei se zhthmata apaths poy anadeiknyontai kai qa apodoqoyn oi eyqynes se opoioys aposkopoysan oysiastika na diathrhsoyn mia aparadekth katastash. Den qa epitrecoyme na pesei pali qyma twn epithdeiwn o Ellhnas bambakoparagwgos. Ayto prepei na to katalaboyn oloi kala. Proqesh mas einai na perifroyrhsoyme th diadikasia paradoshs toy bambakioy kai ths katagrafhs twn posothtwn. Kai sth synexeia, opws exoyme hdh synennohqei me thn E.E., na kinhqei o Kanonismos ths Koinothtas prokeimenoy na ejasfalistoyn eidikes epidothseis poy qa odhghsoyn se ychles xrhmatikes apodoseis. Kai ayto einai pros ofelos toy Ellhna paragwgoy, toy Ellhna agroth.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Lete oti qa pame na dwsoyme ayrio th maxh. Giati mexri shmera den dinate ayth th maxh kai ftasame se ayto to shmeio; Eprepe na ftasoyme, dhladh, na bgoyn oi agrotes stoys dromoys me ta trakter gia na anagkasqeite eseis na pate na dwsete th maxh; Giati den th dinate prin;

PRWTOPAPAS: Thn exoyme dwsei kai palaiotera. Anefera to ayrio, ypo thn ennoia oti gia ayrio exoyn prosdioristei kapoies diadikasies. Maxh exoyme dwsei polles fores. Qelw na pw oti hdh to qema exei erqei sta Symboylia Ypoyrgwn ths E.E., hdh exoyn ginei energeies apo ton armodio ypoyrgo Giwrgo Dry kai ton yfypoyrgo Baggelh Argyrh. Exei, epishs, teqei ypoch kai allwn organwn ths E.E. h enstash mas. Kai bebaiws gnwrizete kala oti oi boyleytes toy PASOK den yposthrijan to sxetiko chfisma, opws kai oi perissoteroi boyleytes toy Eyrwpaikoy Sosialistikoy Kommatos. Einai profanes oti h maxh ejakoloyqei na dinetai, den exei oloklhrwqei. H prospaqeia ayth qa synexistei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Drys kai o k. Argyrhs anelaban twra kaqhkonta se ayto to ypoyrgeio. To kako exei jekinhsei apo prin. Kai gnwrizete poly kala to ti elexqh sth X. Trikoyph, otan synanthqhke h PASEGES me ton k. Laliwth kai ton k. Dry. Kai tote kataggelqhke o k. Anwmeriths, oti aytos yponomeyse olh ayth thn katastash poy exei dhmioyrghqei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na tonisw oti den synanthqhkan oi ekproswpoi ths PASEGES me ton k. Laliwth kai ton k. Dry. Synanthqhkan ta stelexh toy PASOK, ta opoia syndikalizontai sto xwro ayto. Me ayth thn ennoia, emmenw sth gnwsth qesh moy na mh sxoliazw kommatikes syskeceis kai diadikasies. Htan mia kaqara kommatikh syskech kai diadikasia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw den zhthsa na sxoliasete, alla zhthsa na poy peite giati prin apo ton k. Dry kai ton k. Argyrh -o k. Argyrhs htan kai prin- h kybernhsh den ekane tipota;

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh eixe energhsei sthn idia akribws grammh kai me ton k. Argyrh, poy htan kai tote yfypoyrgos, kai me ton k. Anwmerith. O k. Anwmeriths exei epitelesei ena pragmatika shmantiko ergo sta organa ths E.E. gia thn yperaspish twn symferontwn toy Ellhna agroth. Ekeino poy qelw na tonisw me thn eykairia twn kinhtopoihsewn, einai oti emeis den pame kontra ston aplo agroth, se kamia periptwsh. Yperaspizoyme ta symferonta toy, qa synexisoyme na ta yperaspizoyme kai qa dwsoyme lyseis sta problhmata poy antimetwpizei. Skopos mas einai na dwsoyme tis kalyteres dynates lyseis, symfwna me ta shmerina dedomena. Ekeino to opoio omws ofeilw na epishmanw einai, oti dhlwseis opws aytes toy k. Xatzhgakh, kaqe allo para bohqoyn. O skopos den einai kapoios na "kabalhsei" to trakter kai na metatrapei se odhgo h se otidhpote allo. O skopos einai ta kommata -aytos einai o rolos toys, aytos einai o proorismos toys- na dinoyn lysh sta problhmata. Den dinoyme lysh sta problhmata, kanontas laikismo, oyte metatrepomenoi se odhgoys trakter, enw exoyme thn idiothta toy boyleyth. Dinoyme lyseis sta problhmata, qetontas ta zhthmata ekei poy prepei kai paleyontas opws prepei. Kai sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh kaloyme kai pali ton arxhgo ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs na qesei qema sto Eyrwpaiko Laiko Komma kai na stamathsei to chfisma poy qigei toys kapnoparagwgoys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh den nomizw oti moy apanthsate, tote o k. Anwmeriths afoy htan toso petyxhmenos ypoyrgos giati ton allaje o prwqypoyrgos;

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos, otan probainei se anasxhmatismo ths Kybernhshs, lambanei ypoch toy genikotera krithria.

STAMATOPOYLOS: San apotyxhmeno ton allaje.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai etsi, opws ta lete.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Pws symbibazetai to gegonos oti, enw yparxoyn ntirektibes apo thn E.E. gia meiwsh toy agrotikoy plhqysmoy, mesa se mia dekaetia, sto 5%, eseis isxyrizeste oti pairnete metra kai qa dwsete lysh sta problhmata twn agrotwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei ntirektiba gia meiwsh se 5% twn Ellhnwn agrotwn. Yparxei mia seira apo symfwnies, apofaseis kai kanonismoys ths E.E. gyrw apo thn paragwgh mas. Kai, opws sas eipa, prostateyoyme kai perifroyroyme aytes tis symfwnies, giati einai yper toy Ellhna agroth, me telika metra elegxoy kai patajhs ths kerdoskopias kai ths apaths, poy pairnoyme sto qema toy bambakioy.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Me ayta poy exete ypoch sas apo thn Enwmenh Eyrwph, to teliko symperasma, o telikos stoxos den einai h meiwsh toy agrotikoy plhqysmoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi. Einai h thrhsh mias seiras symfwniwn kai kanonismwn poy yparxoyn gyrw apo thn paragwgh se orismenoys tomeis.

ARGYROS: Epeidh milhsate gia syllhceis, exete na mas dwsete perissotera stoixeia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa apodoqoyn eyqynes. Ta stoixeia ta dinei, ayth th stigmh, o armodios yfypoyrgos. Einai mia seira ypoqeseis poy ta armodia elegktika organa exoyn, hdh, ferei sto fws. Bebaiws, gnwrizete oti se aytes tis periptwseis kinoyntai taktikes diadikasies sth Dikaiosynh. H ennoia ths syllhchs poy eipa, exei thn ennoia ths apokalychs ths apaths.

IWANNOY: Akoysa, shmera to prwi, ton k. Nasika, o opoios afhse anoikto to endexomeno oi agrotes, sta syllalhthria poy qa kanoyn, na kleisoyn toys dromoys. H kybernhsh qa labei metra, ean ayto symbei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa hqela na epanalabw th qesh mas oti emeis symporeyomastan, symporeyomaste kai qa symporeyomaste me ta problhmata toy agrotikoy kosmoy. Anefera, epishs, oti hdh edw kai arketo kairo, alla kai twra, lambanontai ola ta anagkaia metra gia na doqoyn lyseis sta agrotika problhmata. Bebaiws, den qa brei symfwnh thn kybernhsh kamia energeia, h opoia qa qesei se amfisbhthsh h qa parempodisei thn omalh, koinwnikh kai oikonomikh zwh.

IWANNOY: Dhladh, qa epembete, ean kleisoyn toys dromoys;

PRWTOPAPAS: Hmoyn safhs. H kybernhsh den symfwnei me kamia energeia, h opoia qetei se amfisbhthsh thn omalothta ths koinwnikhs kai oikonomikhs zwhs sth xwra mas kai ta dikaiwmata twn politwn. Qa hqela na systhsw ston k. Xatzhgakh na mhn "kabalhsei" trakter.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Giati to apagoreyete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den apagoreyoyme se kanenan tipota. Ayta einai politika zhthmata.

KAPPOS: Epeidh anafereste se boyleytes ths N.D., se aytes tis sygkentrwseis lambanoyn meros kai orismenoi boyleytes kai ypoyrgoi toy PASOK. Exw ypoch moy, anejarthta apo o,ti ginetai shmera sth Qessalonikh kai ta Trikala, oti o k. Berelhs htan se sygkentrwsh kapnoparagwgwn sto Agrinio. Aytoi odhgoyn trakter h oxi;

PRWTOPAPAS: H paroysia enos boyleyth se mia sygkentrwsh h mia diamartyria ginetai kai polles fores epilegetai apo ton idio to boyleyth, analoga me thn perioxh kai ta symferonta twn politwn poy ekfrazei. Me ayth thn ennoia, den einai katadikastea apo opoiondhpote kai an ginetai. Ekeino to opoio sxoliasa einai h proqesh orismenwn boyleytwn na symmetasxoyn h na parakinhsoyn se kleisimo eqnikwn odwn. Ayto einai to problhma. To kleisimo twn eqnikwn odwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Xatzhgakhs, sta Trikala den einai boyleyths; O nomos toy den einai ekei; Poy qa paei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Katalabainete poly kala oti to kleisimo eqnikhs odoy einai ena qema poy strefetai kata toy ellhnikoy laoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai pona thn kybernhsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Bebaiws. Dioti, otan h kybernhsh ekfrazei pragmatika th megalh pleiochfia toy ellhnikoy laoy, einai logiko na endiaferetai kai na agwnia gia na ejasfalizetai h omalh, koinwnikh kai oikonomikh zwh. Na mporei o Ellhnas na kineitai eleyqera, na metaferei ta proionta toy.

ELENOPOYLOS: Gia thn kybernhsh, ejakoloyqei na einai kai poiniko adikhma to endexomeno na kleisoyn oi eqnikoi odoi;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kalo qa einai, ayth th stigmh, na mhn topoqetoymaste se ypoqetika zhthmata. Ejefrasa mia qesh arxhs. Den prospaqhsa na dhmioyrghsw problhma se kanena, dioti ektimw oti qa epikrathsoyn cyxraimes skeceis stoys idioys toys agrotes. Omws, afoy rwthqhka, ejefrasa mia qesh arxhs, h opoia einai pagia. Den isxyei mono gi` ayth thn periptwsh kai den prepei na eklhfqei ws prospaqeia antiparaqeshs me kanenan. Qeloyme na lysoyme ta problhmata twn agrotwn. Aplwnoyme xeri synergasias pros toys agrotes. Qeloyme na eimaste konta toys. Qeloyme na dwsoyme peistikes apanthseis sta problhmata toys. Me rwthsate, an h Kybernhsh qa symfwnoyse se kati tetoio kai apanthsa, eyqews, oti den symfwnei na kleisoyn oi eqnikoi odoi. Apo ekei kai pera, ekeino poy pisteyw einai oti oi hgesies twn agrotikwn syllogwn kai twn synetairismwn -en pash periptwsei oi hgetes ths prospaqeias ayths toy agrotikoy kinhmatos- qa skefqoyn swsta kai cyxraima, me bash to ofelos twn agrotwn kai toy koinwnikoy synoloy poy entassontai oi agrotes kai den qa exoyme tetoia zhthmata. Ayto prosdokoyme.

KWNSTANTHS: An, para tis prosdokies sas kai, opws lete, den epikrathsoyn cyxraimes skeceis stoys agrotes, pws qa diasfalisete thn eleyqerh prosbash stis eqnikes odoys; Dhladh, qa fqasete mexri kai th sygkroysh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den apantw se ypoqetikes erwthseis. Eipame th qesh ths kybernhshs kai ejefrasa kai thn aisiodojia oti qa yparjoyn wrimes kai ypeyqynes skeceis apo thn pleyra toy agrotikoy kinhmatos. Qa hqela na meinoyme mexris edw, shmera.

KWNSTANTHS: Epeidh sto parelqon yphrje ayth h diadikasia...

PRWTOPAPAS: To parelqon didaskei kai gia to mellon. Ektos apo orismena kommata poy fainetai oti kaqorizontai apo to parelqon toys. Kai milw gia th N.D. H gnwmh mas einai oti ta kinhmata, ws zwntanoi kai mazikoi foreis poy ekfrazoyn thn koinwnia, exoyn ajiopoihsei oles aytes tis katastaseis toy parelqontos kai skeftontai wrima kai ypeyqyna.

ARGYROS: Mias kai to brady qa yparjei mia atyph synedriash poy qa metexoyn ta koryfaia stelexh apo kybernhsh kai komma, mhpws o Prwqypoyrgos qa balei to qema ths strathgikhs sto agrotiko zhthma;

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos, sthn eishghsh toy, qa anaferqei sto synolo kai tis kentrikes kateyqynseis toy politikoy sxediasmoy mas gia thn trietia.

MPOTWNHS: Akoysame ton k. Skandalidh na anaferetai akoma kai se allagh toy eklogikoy nomoy se mhtropolitikes perifereies, sthn Topikh Aytodioikhsh k.t.l. Mhpws h kybernhsh proetoimazetai kai gia prowres ekloges;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei kamia periptwsh gi` ayto. Oi ekloges qa ginoyn kanonika sth lhjh ths syntagmatikhs proqesmias. Ayta ta opoia exei anaferei o k. Skandalidhs kai ayta poy diabazoyme, einai diafores skeceis, eishghseis kai protaseis poy yparxoyn, oi opoies qa teqoyn se enan anoikto kai xwris agxos xronoy dialogo gia na mporesoyme na katalhjoyme se kapoia kalytera symperasmata, gyrw apo thn organwsh toy kratoys, to mellon ths Topikhs Aytodioikhshs kai thn kalyterh symmetoxh ths ellhnikhs koinwnias sta qemata poy thn aforoyn. Bebaiws, qa syzhthqoyn kai ola ta sxetika zhthmata. Alla, opws gnwrizete, eidika gia qemata poy syndeontai me tis ekloges, den mporei na ginei tipota gia tis epomenes ekloges, oi opoies qa ginoyn kanonika sth lhjh ths tetraetias. Qelw na to jekaqarisw ayto kai na to tonisw kathgorhmatika.

KACIWTHS: Se aytes, omws, tis skeceis ths kybernhshs, h N.D. xrewnei kai kapoies proqeseis. Qewrei oti qa ejantlhsei thn tetraetia, me mono skeptiko oti, epeidh h N.D. pagiwnei thn yperoxh ths stis dhmoskophseis, se periptwsh poy tis xasei, na prokycei to syntagmatiko kwlyma me thn eklogh Proedroy ths Dhmokratias, opws to Febroyario toy 1995 kai ara na apotelesei politikh parenqesh; Qa hqela th gnwmh ths kybernhshs, ep` aytoy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto einai to kako me th N.D., oti kerdizei tis dhmoskophseis kai xanei tis ekloges. Ektimoyme oti ayto qa ginei gia allh mia fora.

IWANNOY: Gia thn k. Diamantopoyloy eipate oti allo ennooyse me tis dhlwseis ths apo ayto poy katalabame, oti dhladh na ginei epishmws h agglikh glwssa deyterh glwssa sthn Ellada; Eipe kati allo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas parepemca na diabasete tis shmerines dhlwseis ths k. Diamantopoyloy poy dinei mia seira ejhghseis gyrw apo to qema. Prepei aytes oi dhlwseis na teqoyn ypoch sas.

KALARITHS: H kybernhsh katadikazei skeceis gia qespish deyterhs epishmhs glwssas sth xwra, nai h oxi;

PRWTOPAPAS: Parapempw stis safeis dhlwseis toy armodioy ypoyrgoy Petroy Eyqymioy.

IWANNOY: Ara, h k. Diamantopoyloy den eixe synennohqei me kanenan. Htan dikes ths oi apoceis, xqes.

PRWTOPAPAS: H k. Diamantopoyloy einai h Ellhnida Epitropos sthn E.E. Den einai melos ths kybernhshs. Eipe orismenes apoceis, tis opoies shmera dieykrinise analytika, milwntas se radiofwniko staqmo. Oi dieykriniseis ths einai safeis. Anaferetai sthn eyqynh toy epishmoy kratoys gia ejasfalish ths glwssomaqeias -kati poy einai aparaithto sth shmerinh epoxh- xwris na exoyme anagkh pistopoihshs apo diaforoys jenoys organismoys.

ANANIADHS: Prin apo dyo xronia, o idios o Prwqypoyrgos, anaferomenos sthn anagkh enisxyshs ths glwssomaqeias, eixe ferei ws paradeigma oti sta Eptanhsa qa mporoyse na qespistei ws deyterh glwssa sth didaskalia, h italikh, sta Dwdekanhsa endexomenws h toyrkikh h alles glwsses...

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos, oydepote exei pei gia th toyrkikh glwssa.

ANANIADHS: Mporei na kanw laqos, alla opwsdhpote eixe anaferqei sth dynatothta na yparjoyn kai alles, ektos twn agglikwn kai twn gallikwn, deyteres glwsses sth didaskalia, sta gymnasia kai lykeia, gia na enisxyqei h dynatothta glwssomaqeias twn Ellhnwn. Ti exei mesolabhsei se ayto to diasthma; Exei proxwrhsei kapoia tetoia drash sth Mesh Ekpaideysh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Parakalw na eimaste perissotero prosektikoi se o,ti afora ton Prwqypoyrgo. Mhn toy apodidoyme pragmata poy den exei pei. Oson afora thn erwthsh sas, exoyme jekinhsei th didaskalia twn triwn glwsswn apo th D@ tajh toy Dhmotikoy. Dhladh, enw palia jekinoysan na didaskontai ta agglika h gallika apo thn A@ Gymnasioy, twra jekinoyn apo th D@ Dhmotikoy. Kai ayto einai ena megalo bhma poy egine sthn Ellada. Sas parapempw stis nees dhlwseis toy k. Eyqymioy, o opoios eipe, ylopoiwntas kai thn allh ejaggelia, oti poly syntoma qa prosteqei, peran twn triwn glwsswn, enallaktika bebaiws, kai h dynatothta ekmaqhshs kai ths italikhs kai ths ispanikhs, isws kai kapoias allhs glwssas, mesa sta Dhmotika kai ta Gymnasia. To megalo zhthma poy yparxei einai na mporesoyme na dwsoyme oles tis anagkaies dynatothtes sta paidia mas, idiaitera mesw ths dhmosias paideias, na maqoyn swsta kai alles jenes glwsses, tis opoies qa xreiastoyn sth zwh toys. H glwssomaqeia einai ena aparaithto proson, prokeimenoy oi neoi mas na mporoyn na antimetwpisoyn me megalyterh aisiodojia to mellon toys sthn Enwmenh Eyrwph. Kai ayth h prospaqeia ths glwssomaqeias, mesa apo th dhmosia ekpaideysh, qa synexistei, qa entaqei kai qa dwsei qetika apotelesmata.

Sas eyxaristw.

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