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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 31 Oktwbrioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Qelw na rwthsw, ti ginetai kai an prokeitai na symmetasxoyme kyriws se stratiwtikes epixeirhseis sto Afganistan. Apo to reportaz prokyptei -kai opws metedwsan kai arketa MME- oti sto Bolo epixeireitai na sygkrothqei mia dynamh, h opoia malista qa teqei sthn yphresia toy NATO kai qa xrhsimopoihqei stis epixeirhseis toy Afganistan.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` epanalhch, exoyme pei oti den yfistatai tetoia periptwsh. Den qa symmetasxei h Ellada stis stratiwtikes epixeirhseis sto Afganistan.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Xqes, h ypoyrgos PEXWDE ekroyse ton kwdwna toy kindynoy kai eipe oti den prolabainoyme ta Olympiaka Erga. Eseis ws kybernhsh, o Prwqypoyrgos ti leei;

PRWTOPAPAS: H ypoyrgos PEXWDE den eipe kati tetoio. Den exoyn apodoqei swsta oi dhlwseis ths. Ejalloy, h idia prin apo ligo dieykrinise se radiofwniko staqmo ti akribws eipe. H katastash exei ws ejhs: Yparxoyn 120 erga, ta opoia amesws h emmesws exoyn na kanoyn me thn olympiakh proetoimasia sthn eyreia ennoia ths. Ta erga ayta exoyn taytothta, exoyn xronodiagramma, exoyn diasfalismenoys poroys. Kaqe trimhno, to xronodiagramma didetai ws eidikh ekqesh sth DOE, wste na ajiologhqei. Ekeino poy prepei na tonisw einai oti yparxei plhrhs efarmogh twn xronodiagrammatwn poy syndeontai me ta Olympiaka Erga. Exei paraxqei ena terastio ergo sto YPEXWDE. To ergo ayto exei fanei, exei ginei apodekto kai apo th DOE kai qa epibebaiwqei gia mia akomh fora sthn episkech toy klimakioy ths DOE, poy qa ginei to Noembrio. Yparxoyn orismena problhmata se kapoia apo ta erga ayta, poy den syndeontai me tis aqlhtikes draseis kai ofeilontai se parembaseis tritwn. Me thn ennoia "tritoi" ennooyme katoikoys h Dhmoys h alloys foreis, oi opoioi synhqws diamartyrontai h parembainoyn me prosfyges sto StE h armodioys Organismoys, prokeimenoy na prowqhsoyn tis apoceis toys kai na diasfalisoyn ta symferonta toys. Aytes oi parembaseis tritwn dhmioyrgoyn, kamia fora, problhmata. Ekeino poy tonisthke einai oti prepei na epidiwjoyme na pairnoyme apofaseis, to taxytero dynato kai na dinoyme apanthseis, wste ayta ta problhmata na airontai kai na proxwroyn akwlyta ta erga, eite syndeontai amesws, eite emmesws, me toys Olympiakoys Agwnes. Ekeino poy prepei na ginei antilhpto, einai pws se ayth thn ypoqesh ths olympiakhs proetoimasias exoyme enan kaqhmerino agwna me ta problhmata kai kaqe mera dinontai lyseis. Ayto poy prepei na tonisw einai oti o Kwstas Laliwths edwse polles fores lyseis kai synebale oysiastika kai kaqoristika sth mexri twra epityxia ths olympiakhs proetoimasias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mporeite na moy peite ena ergo poy efarmosthke to xronodiagramma toy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Se ola ta erga exoyn thrhqei ta xronodiagrammata. Gnwrizete oti ta xronodiagrammata dinontai me th morfh eidikhs ekqeshs kai sth DOE kai yparxei o sxetikos elegxos. Eimaste se plhrh efarmogh twn xronodiagrammatwn, symfwna me osa exoyme desmeyqei pros th DOE. Ayto qa epibebaiwqei gia akomh mia fora kai ston elegxo poy qa ginei to Noembrio.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ta Olympiaka Erga qa doqoyn me anaqesh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyme apanthsei se ayto. Se ola ta Olympiaka Erga ginontai diagwnismoi, symfwna me thn yparxoysa nomoqesia. Yparxei plhrhs diafaneia ston tomea ayto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: To poso to opoio eixe problefqei, o proypologismos, qa einai telika o idios; Einai o idios, ayth th stigmh, me ayton poy eixate pei sthn arxh, efoson efarmozontai ta xronodiagrammata, opws lete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sthn arxh eixan dhlwqei, xwris texnika stoixeia, orismenoi proypologismoi. Ek twn ysterwn gia ola ta erga eginan promeletes, epakoloyqhsan oi oristikes meletes, eginan oi sxetikes dhmoprathseis kai kaqoristhkan oi prodiagrafes, se synennohsh panta kai me th DOE, alla kai tis dieqneis Omospondies, wste na throyntai oi prodiagrafes poy xreiazontai gia to kaqe aqlhma. Ayto eixe ws fysiko apotelesma na anaqewrhqoyn orismenoi apo toys proypologismoys twn ergwn. Ayto, omws, einai apolyta fysiko, otan yparxoyn arxikoi ypologismoi -ennow, polla xronia prin- xwris na yparxoyn oi oristikes meletes kai xwris na exoyn synypologistei oles oi prodiagrafes twn dieqnwn epitropwn, kyriws twn dieqnwn Omospondiwn. Panta sthn prajh, akomh kai otan ktizoyme to spiti mas, otan antimetwpizoyme tis sygkekrimenes meletes kai tis efarmoges enos sygkekrimenoy ergoy, yparxoyn anaqewrhseis twn proypologismwn. Ayto einai apolyta fysiko, apolyta aitiologhsimo, an skefqeite oti ola ginontai sth bash oristikwn meletwn. Kai ejalloy, me ayto ton tropo kai me plhrh diafaneia kai elegxo se oles tis periptwseis, proxwroyn oi sxetikes dhmoprathseis kai sth synexeia oi anaqeseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Otan xtizoyme to spiti mas plhrwnoyme emeis, omws. Twra plhrwnei o ellhnikos laos. Mporeite na moy peite, shmera poios einai o proypologismos twn Olympiakwn Ergwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw, hdh, apanthsei.

GARGALAKOS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, epeidh anaferetai se arketa reportaz efhmeridwn meta th xqesinh synenteyjh toy k. Xristodoylakh, an h kybernhsh prosanatolizetai, eite sth forologhsh twn repos, eite sto na kocei thn apallagh poy exoyn oi daneiolhptes gia daneia prwths katoikias kai en genei, an allazei h filosofia ths oikonomikhs politikhs.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa jekinhsw apo thn Trith erwthsh sas poy einai pio genikoy xarakthra. Den allazei h oikonomikh politikh. Qa doqei ena idiaitero, shmantiko baros ston tomea ths antagwnistikothtas. H enisxysh ths antagwnistikothtas ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, h enisxysh ths antagwnistikothtas ths ellhnikhs epixeirhshs einai ekeinh poy qa diasfalisei to mellon mas ws xwra, poy qa diasfalisei to mellon twn epixeirhsewn mesa sthn eniaia eyrwpaikh agora, einai ekeinh poy qa beltiwsei to emporiko isozygio ths xwras, einai ekeinh poy qa dhmioyrghsei prosqeth apasxolhsh, xiliades nees qeseis ergasias gia na katapolemhsoyme ton efialth ths anergias. Ara, loipon, rixnoyme baros sthn antagwnistikothta, mesa apo ta pente shmeia poy aneptyje xqes o k. Xristoylakhs kai einai ta ejhs:

-H forologikh metarryqmish

-H apeleyqerwsh twn agorwn

-Oi idiwtikopoihseis kai oi sygxwneyseis (se kamia periptwsh, bebaia, den qigetai to kaqestws paroxhs yphresiwn koinhs wfeleias)

-H ajiopoihsh twn porwn toy G` K.P.S. kai

-H anaqewrhsh toy anaptyjiakoy nomoy, h enisxysh toy ependytikoy klimatos.

Oson afora ta repos, o k. Xristodoylakhs den anefere kati sygkekrimeno gyrw apo ayto to qema. Den yparxei ayth th stigmh otidhpote anakoinwsimo h opoiodhpote sygkekrimeno sxedio allaghs ths politikhs gyrw apo ta repos.

Oson afora ta stegastika daneia, einai safes oti sto plaisio mias forologikhs metarryqmishs -h opoia bebaia qa ginei kai afoy yparjoyn oi anagkaioi sxediasmoi sthn kybernhsh, alla kai o dialogos me toys armodioy foreis- qa prepei na ejetastei kai h anamorfwsh toy plaisioy ths politikhs twn stegastikwn daneiwn. Qeloyme, omws, na jekaqarisoyme oti ayth h anamorfwsh qa ginei gia thn ayjhsh ths koinwnikhs xrhsimothtas twn kinhtrwn kai thn enisxysh twn asqenesterwn tajewn. Kai bebaia, me thn arsh kapoiwn streblwsewn poy yparxoyn ayth th stigmh. Stoxos mas einai ta kinhtra poy dinontai na exoyn ayjhmenh koinwnikh xrhsimothta kai na bohqoyn idiaitera tis asqenesteres koinwnika tajeis.

MIXAHL: To deytero poy qelw na rwthsw, einai sxetika me thn olympiakh proetoimasia. Eipate oti "eimaste synepeis sta xronodiagrammata". Mporeite, loipon, me bash ayto kai me th bebaiothta oti h DOE gia allh mia fora qa pei oti proxwrame pros thn proetoimasia, na peite oti qa ginei prajh ayto leei o Prwqypoyrgos, oti dhladh oi Olympiakoi Agwnes poy qa ginoyn sthn Ellada qa einai oi Olympiakoi Agwnes poy den exoyn janaginei mexri twra;

PRWTOPAPAS: Nai. Me thn olympiakh proetoimasia poy exei ginei ws twra, me thn prospaqeia kai ton agwna poy exei ginei ws twra, mporoyme na eimaste aisiodojoi kai na problecoyme oti h xwra mas qa diorganwsei toys kalyteroys Olympiakoys Agwnes poy exoyn ginei mexri shmera.

MIXAHL: Epitrecte moy na pw oti h aisiodojia den shmainei kai bebaiothta. Kai egw mporei na eimai aisiodojos oti h zwh moy ta epomena xronia qa paei poly kala, alla den eimai sigoyros gi` ayto..

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa hqela, opws den sxoliazw tis erwthseis sas, na sas parakalesw -sto press-room, toylaxiston- na mh sxoliazete tis apanthseis moy. Exete olh thn eyxereia kai to dikaiwma, dioti eiste egkritoi dhmosiografoi, na tis sxoliasete stis efhmerides kai ta Mesa poy ergazeste.

BITALHS: Xqes, o Amerikanos presbhs, meta th synanthsh toy me ton ypoyrgo Oikonomikwn, epanhlqe sto qema ths tromokratias kai malista me ligo deiktiko tropo gia thn ellhnikh kybernhsh, kanontas logo oti den exoyn ginei akoma syllhceis gia th "17N". Qa hqela na zhthsw to sxolio sas kai na sas rwthsw, ean yparxei kapoia enoxlhsh, kapoios problhmatismos apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh, apo oles aytes tis diarkeis "systaseis" kai paraineseis twn Amerikanwn panw se qemata asfaleias -eswterika qemata- ths Elladas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws parathroyme gyrw mas, h Ellada einai mia dhmokratikh kai asfalhs xwra. Exoyme ena dedomeno, syntagmatiko kai nomiko plaisio gia th diasfalish ths ennomhs tajhs. Lambanoyme metra gia thn antimetwpish ths tromokratias kai toy organwmenoy egklhmatos kai mas endiaferei na petyxainoyme synexws to kalytero. Qelw na tonisw oti ta metra ayta lambanontai se stenh synergasia me tis armodies yphresies allwn xwrwn kai bebaiws kai me tis yphresies twn HPA. Qelw, epishs, na ypenqymisw oti prosfata chfisame enan pragmatika shmantiko nomo gia thn katapolemhsh toy organwmenoy egklhmatos. Omws, symfwna me to Syntagma mas, symfwna me thn eswterikh ennomh tajh, symfwna me ta pisteyw mas, den mporei na ginoyn syllhceis politwn, para mono otan yparxoyn apodeijeis h basimes endeijeis. Ayto poy qelw na dieykrinisw einai oti se kamia periptwsh h synexhs prospaqeia mas gia thn katapolemhsh toy organwmenoy egklhmatos, den mporei na syndeetai me thn amesh h emmesh amfisbhthsh twn atomikwn dikaiwmatwn twn Ellhnwn politwn.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Sxetika me toys Olympiakoys Agwnes, xqes poy eipate oti h synergasia ths kybernhshs me th Gianna Aggelopoyloy einai armonikh...

PRWTOPAPAS: Armonikotath.

PAPADOPOYLOS: ...shmera, diabazw sxedon se oles tis efhmerides oti exei ypobaqmistei o rolos ths kas Aggelopoyloy kai bebaiws kai toy "Aqhna 2004". Anarwtiemai, mhpws ekana laqos egw h den katalaba swsta th diabebaiwsh sas. O rolos ths kas Aggelopoyloy einai o idios mexri proxqes h exei meiwqei;

PRWTOPAPAS: O rolos, eidika ths kas Aggelopoyloy, alla kai genikotera ths Organwtikhs Epitrophs "Aqhna 2004" einai kai diakritos kai idiaitera shmantikos. Yparxei mia poly kalh synergasia ths kybernhshs mas mazi toys. Ekeino to opoio tonisthke xqes -kai qewrw anagkaia ayth th dieykrinish- einai oti h kybernhsh, dia toy armodioy ypoyrgoy Politismoy E. Benizeloy (poy exei ayjhmenh eyqynh sto olo qema ths parakoloyqhshs twn diadikasiwn gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes, ejalloy proistatai kai ths Omadas Dioikhshs Ergoy) qa symmetexei kai stis synanthseis poy qa kanei h DOE me ton "Aqhna 2004" gia qemata, omws, poy syndeontai mono me to kybernhtiko ergo. Dhladh, tis ypodomes kai ta erga poy exei analabei h kybernhsh. To tonizw ayto: Mono gia qemata poy syndeontai me to kybernhtiko ergo.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Ej aformhs twn epeisodiwn poy eginan sto Zefyri, akoysthke xqes kai apo to Dhmarxo ths perioxhs kai apo alloys paragontes, oti ekei einai, kata kapoio tropo, enas topos anejelegktos apo thn epishmh politeia. Akoysa to Dhmarxo na leei oti kykloforoyn ``kalasnikof'', kaqenas ta agorazei se mia orismenh timh, pwloyntai narkwtika, ta opoia mporei na agorasei o kaqenas. Xarakthrise aytoys toys emporoys narkwtikwn ws ``epithdeymaties''. Anarwtiemai, ean h kybernhsh exei ypoch ths ayto to gegonos kai ti metra lambanei;

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh lambanei ola ta anagkaia metra gia na yparxei omalh koinwnikh kai oikonomikh zwh. Den exw thn idia apoch me to Dhmarxo. An, omws, o Dhmarxos exei sygkekrimenes kataggelies kai qelei na zhthsei th bohqeia toy ypoyrgeioy Dhmosias Tajhs, den exei para na to kanei. Na steilei tis sxetikes kataggelies kai thn ekklhsh gia bohqeia epishmws pros to ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs. Emeis, omws, exoyme mia teleiws diaforetikh eikona.

PAPADOPOYLOS: H erwthsh moy exei sxesh me ta biblia poy apostellontai sta dhmosia sxoleia, polla ek twn opoiwn den ta exoyn labei akoma, an kai exei perasei enas mhnas. Yparxei mia plhroforia oti qa aposyrqoyn 500 titloi sxolikwn bibliwn, gia na janagrafoyn. Malista, doqhke sth dhmosiothta ena keimeno apo to biblio istorias ths B@ Lykeioy, opoy anaferei oti ston Maraqwna polemhsan oi Ellhnes me toys Toyrkoys.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den nomizw oti kapoio biblio grafei kati tetoio. Ayto poy exw na sas pw einai: Oti topoqetoyntai alloi 2.700 anaplhrwtes kaqhghtes, prokeimenoy na symplhrwqoyn ola ta kena. H diadikasia ayth brisketai sto teliko stadio. Epishs, apostellontai kai ta teleytaia biblia, kyriws sta TEE, opoy eixan parathrhqei kapoies elleiceis. Sto telos ths ebdomadas ola qa leitoyrgoyn kanonika sta sxoleia mas. Qelw akomh na tonisw oti h opoiadhpote mikrh kaqysterhsh syndeotan me thn idiaiterh prosoxh, poy doqhke oson afora thn ajiokratikh diadikasia twn proslhcewn twn anaplhrwtwn. Epeidh, to qema twn proslhcewn eixe syndeqei kai me to qema twn anaplhrwtwn, gia na yparxei plhrhs ajiokratia, ises eykairies gia oloys, parathrhqhke mia mikrh kaqysterhsh. Qelw na ypogrammisw oti fetos egine kai o ychloteros ariqmos proslhcewn monimwn kaqhghtwn sta sxoleia. Exoyn proslhfqei peripoy 8.000 ekpaideytikoys, poy qa bohqhsoyn to ekpaideytiko ergo ths kybernhshs.

ARGYROS: Qa hqela na moy peite ean h ayrianh eishghsh toy ypoyrgoy Dhmosias Tajhs Mixalh Xrysoxoidh qa afora qemata asfaleias ths Olympiadas h genikotera thn asfaleia ths xwras. Epishs, qa hqela na rwthsw ean qa yparjei synanthsh toy ypoyrgoy Politismoy Eyaggeloy Benizeloy me thn ypoyrgo PEXWDE Basw Papandreoy, gia na ejetasoyn thn poreia twn perifereiakwn ergwn. Yparxei kapoia skech perikophs toys;

PRWTOPAPAS: H ayrianh syzhthsh sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio afora ola ta qemata asfaleias. O k. Xrysoxoidhs sthn eishghsh toy qa anaferqei se ola ta zhthmata poy antimetwpizei to ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs.

Oson afora to deytero erwthma sas, qa yparxoyn synexeis synanthseis twn ypoyrgwn poy syndeontai me thn Olympiada. To qewrw aytonohto. Yparxei h Diypoyrgikh Epitroph kai h Omada Dioikhshs Ergoy. Epishs, yparxei kai h epitroph poy oristhke xqes, se synexeia ayths poy yphrxe me allh synqesh, poy parakoloyqei se kaqhmerinh bash to kybernhtiko ergo. Bebaiws, yparxei kai h dynatothta twn synarmodiwn ypoyrgwn na synantwntai opote aytoi to epiqymoyn. Qa ginoyn polles tetoies synanthseis, prokeimenoy na lynontai zhthmata koinhs armodiothtas.

Oson afora to allo sas erwthma, den yparxei kamia skech gia perikoph. Ta erga qa ginoyn ola. Anazhtoyntai, opoy xreiastei, enallaktikes lyseis, wste na eimaste plhrws etoimoi kai sthn wra mas gia na diorganwsoyme toys kalyteroys Olympiakoys Agwnes poy exoyn ginei pote.

KAPPOS: O k. Ntenktas ekane kapoies dhlwseis kai anaferqhke sth diarkh isxy toy empolemoy, metajy toy ``kratoys'' opws apokalei to ceydokratos kai me to ``noto'', opws apokalei thn kypriakh Dhmokratia. Dedomenhs ths sxeshs ths Aqhnas me th Leykwsia, poio einai to sxolio sas; Kineitai se analogo empolemo klima h brisketai se allo mhkos kymatos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Emeis, oydepote kai me kanenan dhmioyrgoyme polemiko klima h klima entashs. H ejwterikh politikh ths kybernhshs einai staqerh. Den exei allajei tipota. Oson afora to qema ths entajiakhs poreias ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias, qelw na epishmanw ta poly qetika symperasmata, ta opoia proekycan apo thn prosfath episkech toy k. Pronti sthn Kypro. Gnwrizete poly kala kai ayto epibebaiwqhke kai apo tis dhlwseis toy k. Pronti, oti eimaste staqeroi sth grammh ths entajhs ths Kyproy sthn E.E. kai oti h epilysh toy politikoy problhmatos einai bebaiws eyktaia, alla oxi anagkaia proypoqesh gia thn entajh ths Kyproy sthn E.E. H qesh ayth epibebaiwqhke kai prosfata kai apotelei ena epipleon shmantiko bhma.

KOYIN: Xqes, h N.D. edwse sth dhmosiothta enan pinaka me anatimhseis proypologismwn twn olympiakwn ergwn. Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean symfwneite me toys ariqmoys poy exei dwsei h N.D; Gia paradeigma, anaferei oti to kleisto ghpedo Galatsioy exei anelqei se 15 apo 7 dis draxmes.

PRWTOPAPAS: Aytoi oi ariqmoi einai synhqws ayqairetoi.. To eipa kai prin, alla qelw na to epanalabw: Safws yphrxe mia diaforopoihsh twn arxikwn proypologismwn twn ergwn. Arxikws, eixan dhlwqei kapoioi proypologismoi xwris texnika stoixeia. Sth synexeia, eginan oi meletes, oi nees prodiagrafes, poy kaqoristhkan se synennohsh me th DOE. Ws apotelesma aytwn twn meletwn kai twn newn prodiagrafwn, yphrje ena allo ergo, ara kai enas diaforetikos proypologismos. Me aytoys toys proypologismoys poy pleon ypakoyoyn stis oristikes meletes poy exoyn ginei, proxwroyme stis dhmoprathseis kai anaqeseis twn ergwn me plhrws diafaneis diadikasies.

KOYIN: Protiqetai h kybernhsh na dwsei sth dhmosiothta aytoys toys ariqmoys gia ola ta erga;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw, hdh, apanthsei se ayto to qema.

MPOTWNHS: Exoyn perielqei sthn kybernhsh stoixeia gia drash, synergasia toy UCK me synergates toy Mpin Lanten kai malista sthn Albania;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exoyme stoixeia. Plhroforoymaste ayta poy plhroforoyntai oloi. Den yparxei kati kainoyrgio, kati diaforetiko apo ayta poy hdh einai gnwsta.

KACIWTHS: Qa mporoysate na mas peite kati perissotero gia thn apogeymatinh synanthsh poy qa exei o Prwqypoyrgos me ton k. Laliwth; Poio qa einai to qema kai to antikeimeno ths synanthshs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw anaferqei sto antikeimeno ths synanthshs. Exei na kanei me ton programmatismo toy PASOK, kai thn proetoimasia ths ayrianhs synedriashs toy E.G. Qa hqela, omws, na sas parakalesw na mh moy qetete erwthseis poy aforoyn to komma kai tis apofaseis toy, dioti den protiqemai na tis sxoliazw.

KACIWTHS: Qa hqela na to sxoliasete me thn ennoia oti yparxoyn kapoies plhrofories poy feroyn ton Prwqypoyrgo na syzhthsei kai to qema poy exei jespasei, thn kontra poy exei o k. Laliwths me thn oikogeneia Mhtsotakh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den prokeitai gia kontra toy k. Laliwth me thn oikogeneia Mhtsotakh. Prokeitai gia thn yperaspish, apo to synolo ths kybernhshs, toy k. Laliwth apo tis adikes epiqeseis poy dexqhke apo orismenoys kykloys ths N.D. Einai, loipon, safes oti aytes oi epiqeseis poy aposkopoyn sth spilwsh politikwn proswpwn -kai malista pantelws adika kai anypostata- den mporei na ginoyn apodektes kai qa yparxoyn panta oi katallhles apanthseis.

IWANNOY: Eipate oti h ka Papandreoy ekane kapoies dhlwseis poy den apodoqhkan swsta, enw ...

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na tonisw oti den htan dhlwseis, htan syzhthsh sth Diypoyrgikh Epitroph.

IWANNOY:...xqes, omws, polloi synadelfoi sas kai melh ths kybernhshs, eixan thn aisqhsh oti ayta poy eipe h ka Papandreoy htan ``adeiasma'' toy k. Laliwth. To erwthma einai, gnwrizete ean oi dyo Ypoyrgoi synomilhsan xqes; Yphrje kapoia epikoinwnia metajy Laliwth- Papandreoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw milhsei toso me ton k. Laliwth, oso kai me thn ka Papandreoy, alla kai me polloys apo toys synadelfoys poy htan xqes sth Diypoyrgikh Epitroph. Milhsa, epishs, me ton k. Xythrh, o opoios sas ekane xqes sxetikh enhmerwsh. Den yphrxe kanena tetoio qema. Ayto poy qelw na tonisw kai pali einai oti den exei doqei h swsth eikona. Ta erga briskontai se fash ekteleshs me plhrh efarmogh twn xronodiagrammatwn. Ayto exei fanei kat epanalhch kai qa fanei kai to Noembrio. Bebaiws, einai para polla ta erga, einai 120. Prokeitai gia enan kaqhmerino agwna me ta problhmata kai dinontai lyseis. Qelw na ypogrammisw, ws kybernhtikos ekproswpos, alla ayth einai kai h genikoterh eikona poy yparxei sthn kybernhsh kai h eikona poy edwse h ka Papandreoy, oti to ergo poy parhgage o k. Laliwths htan idiaitera shmantiko. Edwse lyseis kai synebale oysiastika sthn olympiakh proetoimasia.

IWANNOY: Jerete ean milhsan metajy toys;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to gnwrizw, alla qewrw oti ayto den apotelei qema. Oloi miloyn me oloys.

GEROPOYLOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw ean sthn epomenh epafh poy qa exei h kybernhsh kai o ``AQHNA 2004'', me th syntonistikh epitroph ths DOE, qa antapokriqei h kybernhsh sto aithma ths DOE gia na paradoqoyn oi taytothtes twn symbasewn olwn twn ergwn sta agglika kai deyteron, mia ekqesh gia tis kataskeyastikes dynatothtes ths xwras.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exw plhroforhqei oti yparxei tetoio aithma. H kybernhsh einai se synexh epafh me th DOE, oson afora ta kataskeyastika zhthmata kai yparxei plhrhs enhmerwsh gia ola ta erga poy ginontai ayth th stigmh. Qelw na qymisw oti sthn prohgoymenh episkech toy klimakioy ths DOE, oi idioi episkefqhkan ta ergotajia. Eixa thn timh na toys ypodexqw proswpika sto Olympiako Xwrio.

KAMPOYRGIANNH: Oi enallaktikes lyseis poy eipate oti anazhtoyntai gia kapoia apo ta erga ths olympiakhs proetoimasias, se ti synistantai; Qa perioristoyn se kapoies lyomenes kataskeyes h endexomenws qa symperilaboyn kai allagh ths anaqeshs kapoiwn ergwn h allagh toy sxediasmoy toys;

PRWTOPAPAS: H erwthsh sas me bohqa na lysw tyxon mellontikes apories. Den anaferqhka se aqlhtika erga, den anaferqhka sto Olympiako Xwrio h se alla zhthmata ths proetoimasias toy aqlhtikoy tmhmatos twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn. Se ayta qa eimaste plhrws etoimoi, symfwna me ta xronodiagrammata kai to kostos poy exoyme pei. Den yparxei kanena problhma. Anefera oti yphrjan kapoia problhmata poy eixan sxesh me parembaseis tritwn. Aforoysan orismena, synhqws odika erga, sta opoia parenebhsan kapoioi Dhmarxoi h kapoies organwseis politwn h kai memonwmenes omades politwn. Einai xarakthristiko to paradeigma poy afora thn kataskeyh enos tmhmatos ths lewforoy Barhs-Korwpioy h alla tetoia zhthmata. Se ayta, epeidh emplekontai diafores yphresies toy Dhmosioy h akomh kai diafora nomika proswpa, einai safes oti piqanon na breqoyn enallaktikes lyseis, prokeimenoy na jeperastoyn texnika zhthmata. Alla, den eimaste se ayto to stadio ayth th stigmh. Twra, eimaste sto stadio ths lhchs apofasewn apo toys armodioys foreis gia na proxwrhsoyme grhgora. Epanalambanw oti den prokeitai gia aqlhtika erga.

Sas eyxaristw.

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