Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-10-02

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 2 Oktwbrioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Qa moy epitrecete na symplhrwsw to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy:

Ayrio, stis 11 to prwi, qa dexqei se synergasia ton Proedro ths GSEE Xrhsto Polyzwgopoylo.

Thn Pempth, stis 10 to prwi, qa dexqei se synergasia ton Ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Oikonomias Gianno Papantwnioy kai argotera stis 12.30 ton Ypoyrgo PEXWDE Kwsta Laliwth.

Thn Paraskeyh, stis 9 to brady, o Prwqypoyrgos qa parakaqisei se deipno ston "Astera" ths Boyliagmenhs, to opoio organwnei h Omada Meletwn kai Ereynwn, "h Eyrwph mas", opws onomazetai -ena think tank, qa legame- poy exei idrysei o k. Ntelor. Qa ekfwnhsei omilia kai qa apanthsei se erwthseis stelexwn, proswpikothtwn poy qa symmetexoyn se ayth thn ekdhlwsh.

To Sabbato, stis 10 to prwi, h K.E. toy PASOK qa pragmatopoihsei thn teleytaia synedriash ths, me thn paroysa synqesh, prokeimenoy na chfisei ton apologismo, opws ginetai pantote, enocei toy Synedrioy.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

GIANNISHS: Egine gnwsto oti h amerikanikh kybernhsh enhmerwse tis kybernhseis twn symmaxwn kai filwn xwrwn ths, sxetika me kapoia apodeiktika stoixeia, opws yposthrizetai, gia thn emplokh toy Osama Mpin Lanten sthn tromokratikh energeia. Exei labei gnwsh aytwn twn stoixeiwn h ellhnikh Kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths xwras mas episkeptetai tis HPA. Shmera qa exei synanthseis me ton Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn k. Paoyel kai alloys ajiwmatoyxoys ths kybernhshs twn HPA. Sto plaisio aytwn twn synanthsewn qa doqei h dynatothta na syzhthqoyn ola ta sxetika qemata. Mexri tote, den qa hqela na epektaqw sto qema ayto. O idios o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn qa kanei sxetikes dhlwseis kai qa milhsei me leptomereies gia ta synafh qemata.

MPOTWNHS: Eidame shmera na askeitai diwjh se stelexh ths etaireias "Kthmatologio" kai h ypoqesh ayth exei ftasei malista kai sta armodia organa ths E.E.. Qelw prwta to sxoliasmo sas kai an dysfhmei th xwra mas mia tetoia energeia, me bash oti einai edw o k. Mparnie. Epishs, o k. Mhtsotakhs, prin apo ligo, xarakthrise anikano ton k. Laliwth kai zhthse apo ton Prwqypoyrgo na ton apopemcei. Ti lete;

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, exei apodeixqei oti o k. Laliwths einai enas ikanos kai apotelesmatikos ypoyrgos. Enoxleitai o k. Mhtsotakhs, giati gia ena qema me to opoio h dikh toy kybernhsh eixe asxolhqei -to qema toy aerodromioy sta Spata- o k. Laliwths petyxe mia poly kalyterh epidosh. Ypegrace, dhladh, me ton anadoxo mia symbash poly kalyterh apo ayth poy eixe ypogracei h ypo ton k. Mhtsotakh kybernhsh.

Apo ekei kai pera, gia to sygkekrimeno qema poy qetete, h alhqeia einai mia: Oyte oi politikoi qa ypokatasthsoyn toys eisaggeleis kai toys dikastes, oyte oi leitoyrgoi ths Dikaiosynhs qa askhsoyn politiko rolo. Kaqe ejoysia einai aytonomh. Oi roloi einai diaforetikoi kai diakritoi kai prepei na einai amoibaiws sebastoi. Asfalws, sebomaste to qesmo ths Dikaiosynhs kai toys foreis. Omws, oydeis einai ektos kritikhs kai elegxoy. Oydeis einai sto apyroblhto. Opoios askei ejoysia se mia dhmokratikh politeia, opws einai h Ellhnikh Dhmokratia, asfalws ypokeitai se elegxo kai kritikh.

Mporw na ypenqymisw, gia thn istoria toy pragmatos, oti o sygkekrimenos eisaggelikos leitoyrgos kai sto parelqon -gia logoys entypwsiasmoy;- eixe analabei sxetikes prwtoboylies, oi opoies den odhghsan se kanena apotelesma, opws telika edeije h idia h synexeia kai h oloklhrwsh ekeinwn twn elegxwn. Qymaste thn efodo poy eixe ginei sto Ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs, xwris na enhmerwqei kan h hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy h h hgesia ths EL.AS.; Gnwrizete poia htan h synexeia; Asxolhqhkate apo tote; Aqwwqhkan oloi, osoi eixan tote kathgorhqei. Gnwrizete oti eixan diatypwqei kathgories enantion toy prwhn arxhgoy ths EL.AS. k. Gewrgakopoyloy; Treis diaforetikes ypoqeseis eixan apasxolhsei thn koinh gnwmh, me kentriko kathgoroymeno ton prwhn arxhgo ths EL.AS. Aqwwqhke kai gia tis treis ypoqeseis.

Ara, loipon, mporei na pei kaneis oti bebaiws mporoyme na krinoyme to ergo enos eisaggelea, enos dikastikoy, opws krinoyme kai to ergo twn politikwn. Ayto den shmainei opoiasdhpote morfhs parembash. Allwste, o sebasmos mas sth Dikaiosynh apodeiknyetai apo ayto poy eipe kai o k. Laliwths oti qa anamenoyme na oloklhrwqei ayth h diadikasia kai tote einai bebaio oti qa lamcei h alhqeia kai oloi qa gnwrizoyn pws akribws exoyn ta pragmata. Qa apodoqei dikaiosynh, poly syntoma. To eipe o k. Laliwths sth dhlwsh toy, ekfrazontas to sebasmo toy sth Dikaiosynh.

Apo ekei kai pera, bebaiws, yparxoyn diafora qemata, ta opoia h qa prepei na ta ermhneysoyme san na einai symptwseis h qa prepei na anazhthsoyme kati allo. Den einai dynato gia ena kolossiaio ergo na kathgoreitai o ypoyrgos kai h kybernhsh kai na ektiqetai h xwra mas sthn E.E.. Giati peri aytoy prokeitai. An yparxoyn problhmata, prepei ayta na syzhthqoyn kai na antimetwpistoyn, prokeimenoy to ergo na synexistei kai na oloklhrwqei, giati einai ergo poy exei eqnikh shmasia. Den einai dynaton h Nea Dhmokratia, kata kairoys, mesw twn ekproswpwn ths, se ayton h alloys tomeis, na diatypwnei kathgories kai na proanaggellei kataggelies kai dikastikes ereynes. Ola ayta ean den kinoyntai sto xwro twn symptwsewn, odhgoyn sto symperasma oti symbainei kati allo. Kai, se teleytaia analysh, otan kathgoreitai o armodios ypoyrgos -dioti peri aytoy prokeitai, para to oti den kataggelletai eyqews, para mono ta melh toy symboylioy ths anwnymhs etaireias toy "Kthmatologioy"- pws alliws qa amynqei, otan sthn politikh sfaira, sth dhmosia zwh, diatypwnontai aytes oi asthriktes kataggelies apo thn antipoliteysh; H antipoliteysh den xanei eykairia na prosetairizetai opoiadhpote eisaggelikh prwtoboylia kai na th metatrepei se kathgoria enantion ths kybernhshs, me dikastikh sfragida, kati to opoio gnwrizete oti den antapokrinetai sthn alhqeia. Prepei na prostateysoyme to dhmosio bio, prepei na prostateysoyme to dhmosio symferon. Ayto qa ginei otan kaqenas, sto diko toy tomea, askei ta kaqhkonta toy aperispastos kai xwris na endidei se peirasmoys, na paijei roloys poy anhkoyn sth sfaira armodiothtwn allwn leitoyrgiwn, allwn ejoysiwn.

MIXAHL: Epeidh anoijate kapoia zhthmata, qa sas qesw mia erwthsh apolytws safh kai h apanthsh epafietai se sas. Symmerizetai h kybernhsh ektimhseis oti omada eisaggelewn, se synergasia me th N.D., stoxeyei sth fqora ths kai deyteron, ean qewreite oti h periptwsh Asprogeraka, prin apo ligo kairo, kai h periptwsh Gerakh twra, exoyn thn idia skopimothta.

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, gia mia akomh fora dhlwnw me safhneia kai kathgorhmatikothta th qesh mas. Sebomaste to qesmo ths Dikaiosynhs kai toys foreis toy qesmoy aytoy. Apo ekei kai pera, an den ejhgoyntai me symptwseis polles energeies kai eisaggelikwn kai dikastikwn leitoyrgwn, qa prepei na anazhthsoyme, kanontas logikes skeceis, thn ermhneia pollwn tetoiwn energeiwn se ena allo epipedo. Tiqentai diafora erwthmata kai apo ton k. Laliwth sta opoia kapoios prepei na apanthsei. Giati, diapistwnetai oti se politikes stigmes poy exoyn mia shmasia, mia idiaiterothta -qa elega isws oti einai kai krisimes- emfanizontai prwtoboylies eisaggelikwn leitoyrgwn oi opoies, kata th dikh mas pantote apoch, den exoyn thn analogh tekmhriwsh, wste na dikaiologoyn ayto to opoio kanei h N.D.. Na kataggellei, dhladh, thn kybernhsh kai na isxyrizetai oti telikws h Dikaiosynh einai ayth poy apefanqh pws h kybernhsh h kratika stelexh einai enoxoi gia diaprajh egklhmatwn. Giati, sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh, ginetai logos gia kakoyrghmata. Prosferetai sthn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh mia eykairia na xrhsimopoiei aytoy toy eidoys tis energeies, diastreblwnontas polles fores to periexomeno aytwn twn prwtoboyliwn kata tetoio tropo, wste na dhmioyrgeitai mia entypwsh sthn politikh zwh, sth dhmosia sfaira. Ayto prepei na apokroystei apo toys ypoyrgoys, apo ta kratika stelexh, apo thn kybernhsh.

PITTARAS: To gegonos ayto kaqayto, me tis kataggelies ths N.D., yperkalyptei thn oysia toy problhmatos;

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, giati qa prepei na dexqoyme oti ta pragmata einai etsi, opws ta paroysiazei h mia pleyra kai den dexeste oti ta pragmata einai teleiws diaforetika; Emeis pisteyoyme oti den antapokrinetai sthn alhqeia ayto to opoio isxyrizetai h N.D. h ayto to opoio fainetai, meta th sygkekrimenh eisaggelikh energeia. Gi` ayto emeis, opws leei kai o armodios ypoyrgos, exontas empistosynh sthn ellhnikh Dikaiosynh, perimenoyme syntoma na apodoqei dikaiosynh kai na lamcei h alhqeia. Kai qa lamcei h alhqeia. Ayto qeloyme oloi. Alla sas parakalw, gia diafores ypoqeseis poy kata kairoys apasxoloyn kai esas, ta MME, alla kai toys polites ths xwras mas, na ejetasoyme diaxronika poia einai h synexeia, pws oloklhrwqhkan aytes oi ereynes, aytoi oi dikastikoi elegxoi kai poy katelhjan. Giati, sthn Ellada diatypwnoyme kathgories kai enoxopoioyme paragontes toy dhmosioy bioy me poly megalh eykolia. Den antilambaneste oti ayto dhlhthriazei th Dhmokratia mas; Kaqenas, loipon, prepei na askei to rolo toy me tetoio tropo, wste na mhn epitrepei se alloys na paranooyn h na xrhsimopoioyn tis dikes toy energeies gia allotrioys skopoys.

IWANNOY: Qa hqela to sxolio sas gia tis dhlwseis toy k. Kibrikogloy, o opoios, apantwntas se sas, epanelabe toys isxyrismoys oti h Ellada me ton a` h b` tropo ypoqalce ton Otsalan sth xwra mas kai oti sto Layrio yparxoyn kapoia stratopeda Koyrdwn. Kai ena deytero erwthma, xqes ston "ANT1" o k. Libingkston epanelabe toys foboys toy oti mporei akoma kai na xasoyme toys Olympiakoys Agwnes, giati h xwra mas den exei kanei tipota sto qema ths tromokratias.

REPPAS: Me ayth thn ennoia, an eixe analabei h kybernhsh twn HPA kai mia antistoixh organwtikh epitroph ths thn organwsh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn toy 2004, qa mporoysame twra na poyme oti den einai dynato na diejaxqoyn oi Olympiakoi Agwnes stis HPA. Ayto qa mporoysame na to poyme me kathgorhmatiko tropo. Tetoio qema den tiqetai. H DOE, h olympiakh oikogeneia exei tonisei me kathgorhmatiko tropo oti h Ellada kanei thn prospaqeia ths kai einai epikairh, oson afora toys stoxoys kai thn epiteyjh toys, prokeimenoy na organwsei toys Olympiakoys Agwnes toy 2004 kai den tiqetai qema allaghs ths edras toys. H Ellada einai mia xwra asfalhs, poly pio asfalhs apo polles alles xwres, paragontes twn opoiwn eykola kathgoroyn th xwra mas. Ayto poy exei shmasia einai na synexisoyme thn prospaqeia mas, me th synergasia twn armodiwn yphresiwn ths xwras mas me tis antistoixes yphresies allwn xwrwn kai twn HPA, prokeimenoy kai ston tomea ths asfaleias oi Olympiakoi Agwnes toy 2004 na einai acogoi kai na kerdisoyme kai ekei ena xryso metallio. Ayto pisteyw oti qa einai to apotelesma twn prospaqeiwn poy kanei h xwras mas.

Oson afora thn prwth erwthsh sas, prepei na pw oti h epanalhch aytwn twn stereotypwn kathgoriwn apo thn Toyrkia enantion ths Elladas, asfalws ginetai logw sygkekrimenhs skopimothtas. Einai mia periodos krishs, entashs kai h Toyrkia qewrei oti qa prepei na ajiopoihsei ayth th reystothta poy emfanizetai sthn eyryterh perioxh ths, prokeimenoy etsi na apokomisei kapoia ofelh. Den peiqei, omws, kanenan. Giati, h Toyrkia, an akoloyqei mia tetoia grammh, einai san na omologei oti den epiqymei na allajei prosanatolismoys, na allajei politikh poreia. Ayto, omws, thn krata makria apo toys stoxoys poy einai ypoxrewmenh na epityxei gia na entaxqei sthn eyrwpaikh oikogeneia. Einai telikws se baros ths Toyrkias mia tetoia politikh. O k. Kibrikogloy mporei na apeyqynqei ston OHE, na diabasei ta chfismata kai tis apofaseis toy gia to Kypriako kai ekei qa exei katalytikes apanthseis stis opoies amfibolies exei o idios h opoioi alloi gia to poioi einai ekeinoi poy symmorfwnontai me toys kanones poy qetei o megalos Organismos kai poioi einai ekeinoi poy yponomeyoyn thn efarmogh twn apofasewn toy. Kai se teleytaia analysh, h Ypath Armosteia toy OHE sth xwra mas, h opoia frontizei kai epopteyei th leitoyrgia toy kentroy gia toys prosfyges sto Layrio, einai ayth sthn opoia prepei na apeyqynqei o k. Kibrikogloy. H Ellada einai mia dhmokratikh xwra. Antimetwpizoyme to terastio kyma ths laqrometanasteyshs, gia thn antimetwpish ths opoias prepei kai h Toyrkia na bohqhsei, opws to exoyme pei, kat` epanalhch. H Ellada den mporei na kathgoreitai, epeidh antapokrinetai stis ypoxrewseis ths sto plaisio toy OHE.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Mhpws apoqrasynetai h Toyrkia se ayta poy kanei, otan o antiproswpos toy Amerikanikoy Kogkresoy k. Goyolton plekei to egkwmio ths Toyrkias, onomazontas thn "lampro petradi toy stemmatos" sthn eyflekth ayth perioxh; Dierwtwmai, ti paixnidi paizoyn oi Amerikanoi.

REPPAS: Gnwrizoyme poia einai h politikh ths kybernhshs twn HPA sthn perioxh. Oson afora to Kypriako, idiaiterws kai me safhneia, h kybernhsh twn HPA exei qesh poy einai taytoshmh twn apofasewn toy OHE. Ayto einai poly qetiko stoixeio sthn prospaqeia poy ginetai gia thn epilysh toy politikoy problhmatos ths Kyproy. Kata ta alla, gnwrizete oti opoioi latreyoyn ta stemmata, mporei na blepoyn petradia. Zoyn se alles epoxes h zoyn ektos topoy kai xronoy. Ayto den mas afora kai nomizw oti den afora kai thn Toyrkia. Giati, h epoxh twn soyltanwn, me ta stemmata kai ta petradia, exei parelqei pisteyw oristika kai gia thn Toyrkia. Ara, o Amerikanos ajiwmatoyxos mila, perissotero anaferomenos sto parelqon, para sto paron kai to mellon ths Toyrkias. Einai glafyres tetoioy eidoys anafores kai pisteyw epizhmies, otan einai se apostash apo enan politiko realismo poy prepei na mas diakrinei oloys.

Sas eyxaristw.

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