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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 26 Septembrioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Qa moy epitrecete na symplhrwsw thn enhmerwsh, oson afora to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

Ayrio stis 10 to prwi, qa proedreysei se syskech gia qemata ths politikhs mas ston tomea ths epaggelmatikhs katartishs, me th symmetoxh twn synarmodiwn ypoyrgwn kai yfypoyrgwn kyriwn Eyqymioy, Giannitsh, Petsalnikoy, Prwtopapa kai allwn paragontwn-symboylwn.

Thn Paraskeyh, sth 1.30 to meshmeri, qa proedreysei se syskech gia qemata asfaleias, me th symmetoxh twn synarmodiwn ypoyrgwn, ths k. B. Papandreoy, toy k. A. Tsoxatzopoyloy, toy k. G. Papandreoy, toy k. M. Xrysoxoidh kai allwn paragontwn.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: H mia erwthsh poy qelw na kanw afora kapoia plhroforia poy qelei na yparxei aithma twn HPA sthn ellhnikh kybernhsh gia anabolh h allagh epixeirhsiakwn sxediwn ths askhshs "Nikhforos" poy ginetai kaqe xrono sthn Kypro. Mporeite na epibebaiwsete h oxi ayth thn plhroforia;

REPPAS: Den tiqetai qema mataiwshs ths askhshs "Nikhforos-Tojoths" poy ginetai kaqe xrono, me th symmetoxh dynamewn ths Elladas kai ths Kyproy. H askhsh ayth entassetai sto Dogma toy Eniaioy Amyntikoy Xwroy. Einai mia askhsh h opoia den strefetai enantion allwn xwrwn. Diejagetai pantote me tetoio tropo, wste na mh dhmioyrgeitai opoiosdhpote kindynos, opoiodhpote endexomeno dhmioyrgias krishs sthn perioxh. Pragmati, o epitetrammenos ths amerikanikhs presbeias sthn Ellada, o opoios episkefqhke ton yfypoyrgo Ejwterikwn tis prohgoymenes hmeres, metefere enan problhmatismo gia to endexomeno na dhmioyrghqei kindynos apo th diejagwgh twn askhsewn aytwn poy exoyn programmatistei gia th sygkekrimenh xronikh periodo. Analogo problhmatismo exei metaferei, opws anefere, kai sthn kybernhsh ths Toyrkias. H askhsh ayth qa ginei, opws exei sxediastei. Epanalambanw oti einai mia askhsh h opoia den strefetai enantion allhs xwras. Se teleytaia analysh, emeis epiqymoyme h entash sthn perioxh na meiwqei akomh perissotero. H epilysh toy kypriakoy problhmatos, pisteyoyme oti qa apotelesei ton katalyth, wste na epikrathsei hremia sthn perioxh, pragma to opoio qa apobei pros ofelos olwn twn kratwn ths perioxhs. Pisteyoyme, loipon, oti h qesh ayth gia th diejagwgh ths askhshs, sto plaisio poy diejagetai kaqe xrono, xwris na dhmioyrgoyntai problhmata, opws allwste mexri twra oydepote dhmioyrghqhke problhma to opoio na odhgei se entash kai krish, einai kati to opoio kai fetos prepei na akoloyqhsoyme ws politikh se ayto ton tomea.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Prin apo ena xrono kai malista sth Boylh twn Ellhnwn, o Prwqypoyrgos eixe desmeyqei proswpika oti se o,ti afora thn ypoqesh toy "Samina" qa xyqei apleto fws, giati h ereyna qa fqasei "ws to kokalo". Shmera, akoysame dhmosiws to nomiko ekproswpo ths ploiokthtrias etairias na mila gia mh oloklhrwmenh ereyna kai malista eipe xarakthristika oti o ektos empeirognwmonas elabe epistolh me thn opoia toy exei zhthqei na stamathsei tis ereynes toy, prin apo ton prokaqorismeno xrono. Ayth h dhlwsh egine se kapoio radiofwno kai qelw na moy th sxoliasete, dhladh oti den einai oloklhrwmenh h ereyna kai ti protiqetai na kanei h kybernhsh, poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs.

REPPAS: Th qesh ths kybernhshs th diatypwsa, xqes, me safhneia. Emeis, pragmati, epiqymoyme na lamcei h alhqeia. Einai h ejoflhsh toy xreoys poy exoyme pros ta qymata kai tis oikogeneies toys. Ayto to opoio epiqymoyme einai, to syntomotero dynato, na apodoqei dikaiosynh, xwris omws h prospaqeia gia syntomeysh toy xronoy aponomhs ths dikaiosynhs na apobei se baros ths oysias, ths meqodikhs kai systhmatikhs prospaqeias poy prepei na kanoyn oi armodies yphresies. Gnwrizete oti sto qema ayto poy apasxolei th dikaiosynh, den epitrepetai opoiadhpote dikh mas emplokh. Oi empeirognwmones exoyn kataqesei to porisma toys. Qa to ajiologhsei o efeths anakriths, prokeimenoy na diatypwsei th qesh toy. Sto plaisio ths dikonomias mas, problepetai poia einai h diadikasia poy prepei na akoloyqhqei. Se kanena shmeio ths den epitrepetai sthn kybernhsh, se paragontes ektos twn yphresiwn, opws einai oi empeirognwmones poy exoyn asxolhqei h twn organwn ths dikaiosynhs, na parembei opoiosdhpote allos. Gi` ayto, loipon, qa prepei na eimaste prosektikoi. Epiqymoyme -kai ayth einai h qesh sthn opoia menoyme- na lamcei h alhqeia. Ayto prepei na ginei me tropo tetoio, wste na apodoqei dikaiosynh.

GARGALAKOS: Esxatws sta ellhnika ghpeda exei arxisei na parathreitai mia moda, qa elege kaneis, opoy filaqloi shkwnontai kai ektojeyoyn ybristika synqhmata poy qa mporoyse na pei kaneis oti aforoyn ta qymata ths tromokratikhs energeias sth Nea Yorkh kai genika ekqetoyn, qa elega, th xwra mas, kaqoti hdh exoyn emfanistei kai dhmosieymata sto dieqnh Typo poy epikrinoyn aytes tis kinhseis. H ellhnikh kybernhsh skeftetai na parei kapoia metra; Skeftetai na apodokimasei aytes tis energeies twn filaqlwn; Poso mallon poy ayrio exoyme kai mia diadhlwsh, edw, sthn Ellada, oxi gia ta qymata ths Neas Yorkhs, alla gia ta ypotiqemena antipoina.

REPPAS: Pragmati, eimaste martyres aytwn twn epeisodiwn, aytwn twn qliberwn gegonotwn. Xwris distagmo apodokimazoyme ayth th symperifora, h opoia ekqetei th xwra mas dieqnws. Einai lyphro to fainomeno kapoioi na ektojeyoyn adika ta belh toys enantion enos laoy kai malista thn wra ths dokimasias toy. Kata ta alla, h Ellada einai mia xwra sthn opoia epitrepetai o kaqenas na ekfrazei eleyqera tis apoceis toy. Ayto prepei na ginetai pantote sto plaisio toy Syntagmatos kai twn nomwn. H diadhlwsh poy organwnetai ayrio apo to KKE, qa kinhqei sto plaisio ths nomimothtas, asfalws. Ekeino poy prepei na einai safes se kaqe periptwsh einai toyto: H ellhnikh kybernhsh, ta politika kommata, o ellhnikos laos exoyn ametaqeta kai ametaklhta topoqethqei sth qesh toy polemioy ths tromokratias kai twn tromokratwn. O agwnas mas apenanti sthn tromokratia einai synexhs. Qa kanoyme ta panta, se synergasia kai me alles xwres, prokeimenoy na fqasoyme sto epiqymhto apotelesma. Ayth einai pagia qesh ths kybernhshs, poy me isxyrh boylhsh, thn opoia diaqetoyme, qa synexisoyme na yphretoyme.

MPOTWNHS: H efhmerida "Xwra" dhmosieyei shmera kapoies plhrofories poy kanoyn logo oti organwseis toy Mpin Lanten exoyn ependysei se sxesh me naytiliakes etairies sthn Ellada. H kybernhsh exei kapoia tetoia stoixeia;

REPPAS: Apanthsa se ayto, xqes. Sas eipa oti den prokyptei otidhpote poy na syndeei tromokratikes organwseis sthn Ellada me epixeirhmatikes drasthriothtes. Gi` ayto, ola ta stoixeia poy erxontai sto fws ths dhmosiothtas, qa prepei na ta ajiologoyme me idiaiterh eyqynh.

KAPPOS: Se synexeia ths erwthshs toy k. Kampoyrakh, qa hqela na rwthsw, ean h parembash ths amerikanikhs presbeias htan kai pros thn kateyqynsh ths askhshs "Parmeniwn" kai an exei sxesh me thn kaqysterhsh ths epishmhs ejaggelias sas.

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, den prepei na miloyme gia parembash. Den eixe to xarakthra parembashs. Sto plaisio epikoinwnias twn diplwmatikwn yphresiwn me to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, logiko einai na ektiqentai apoceis. Apo ekei kai pera, h askhsh "Parmeniwn" exoyme anakoinwsei oti qa ginei kanonika. Hdh, exei ekdoqei sxetikh anakoinwsh. Pantote h askhsh ayth ginetai th sygkekrimenh periodo. Oydepote teqhke qema mataiwshs h anabolhs. Ara, den yparxei periqwrio syzhthshs.

KAPPOS: H deyterh erwthsh poy hqela na kanw einai, an exete kapoio sxolio se sxesh me dhmosieymata toy albanikoy Typoy poy nomizw oti qa exete ypoch sas, ta opoia kataggelloyn thn Ellada gia sobinismo, miloyn gia anwterothta ths albanikhs fylhs...

REPPAS: Einai ena fainomeno poy pisteyw oti xarakthrizei th dhmosia zwh sthn Albania, h opoia gnwrizete se ti epipedo kineitai. Den qelw na to sxoliasw, twra. Ayto to opoio exei shmasia den einai oi diaforoi kykloi sthn Albania. Shmasia exei h qesh thn opoia pairnei h kybernhsh ths geitonikhs xwras. H albanikh kybernhsh, gnwrizete oti exei dhlwsei pws elegxei ola ta stoixeia poy exei sth diaqesh ths kai en pash periptwsei, me kaqe tropo, symparatassetai se ayth thn prospaqeia poy kanei h Dieqnhs Koinothta na antimetwpisoyme kai na ejaleicoyme th mastiga ths tromokratias. Ayto exei shmasia.

GIAKOYMHS: Prin apo liges wres, to amerikaniko thleoptiko diktyo FOX NEWS anakoinwse oti sthn Ellada yparxei ena antiamerikaniko klima, oti etoimazontai diadhlwseis kai oyte ligo, oyte poly oti ypoqalpoyme tromokrates. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

REPPAS: Ayta den exoyn sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. Epibebaiwnoyn, omws, thn eyqynh poy prepei na epideijoyme -idiaiterws se ayth thn krisimh periodo- oloi, politika kommata, organwseis kai polites, giati apo dikes mas prwtoboylies mporei na ekteqei h xwra. Dhladh, oi dikes mas energeies mporei na apokwdikopoihqoyn apo th Dieqnh Koinothta, me tetoio tropo, wste na dhmioyrghqei paranohsh. Gnwrizete kala oti o ellhnikos laos, ta politika kommata, h politikh kai politeiakh hgesia ths xwras einai topoqethmenoi, ayth thn wra, sto metwpo ths maxhs enantion ths tromokratias kai twn tromokratwn. Den prepei na yparxei opoiadhpote amfisbhthsh ws pros ayto. Den symfwnoyme me aytoy toy eidoys th dhmosiografia, h opoia, bebaiws, kineitai sto plaisio twn ektimhsewn poy kanoyn oi leitoyrgoi enos sygkekrimenoy MME. Dikaiwma toys einai, apo thn mia pleyra. Apo thn allh, omws, ki emeis, prepei na yperaspistoyme to symferon ths xwras mas. Kai ayto oloi den prepei na to jexname pote. Polites, kommata. Emeis, h kybernhsh den to jexna.

KALARITHS: Gia thn askhsh ``Parmeniwn'' mia erwthsh: Plhrofories apo to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas kanoyn logo gia allagh stoys sxediasmoys. Oxi mataiwsh h anabolh, alla allagh stoys sxediasmoys. Isxyei kati tetoio;

REPPAS: Isxyei h anakoinwsh poy exei ekdwsei to GES, oson afora ayth thn askhsh. Dhladh, h askhsh qa ginei opws ginetai kaqe xrono kai oi epixeirhseis qa anaptyxqoyn se olo ton elladiko xwro, me emfash sthn perioxh toy Ebroy kai toy Boreioanatolikoy Aigaioy, sthn perioxh ths Lhmnoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, epanerxomai sto dhmosieyma ths efhmeridas ``Xwra'': dhmosieyetai ena eggrafo poy ferei hmeromhnia 23.9.2001. H kybernhsh gnwrizei ayto to eggrafo, to opoio kykloforei metajy twn yphresiwn;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti ola ta stoixeia poy einai sth diaqesh twn yphresiwn mas ajiologoyntai. Apo kei kai pera, oi yphresies bgazoyn ta symperasmata toys. H ajiologhsh ayth prepei na ginetai me idiaiterh eyqynh, opws me poly megalyterh eyqynh qa prepei na dinoyme sth dhmosiothta apoceis, sxolia h kai eggrafa ta opoia, isws se kapoies periptwseis, den bohqoyn thn ypoqesh poy qeloyme oloi na yphrethsoyme: Na ejaleicoyme thn tromokratia. Oi yphresies kanoyn to kaqhkon toys. To ergo twn yphresiwn den mporei na apotelei antikeimeno kaqhmerinhs syzhthshs se dhmosioys xwroys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, yparxei ena eggrafo dhmosias yphresias. Den mporoyme na syzhtoyme gi` ayta ta eggrafa, otan anaferoyn onomata etairiwn poy briskontai sthn Ellada; Apagoreyetai, dhladh;

REPPAS: Apanthsa sthn erwthsh sas, h opoia einai synafhs me erwthsh synadelfoy sas kai sthn opoia edwsa plhrh apanthsh, prin apo ligo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den moy lete, omws, gi` ayto to eggrafo kai aytes tis etairies. Yparxoyn sthn Ellada aytes oi etairies; Exoyn drasthriothtes edw;

REPPAS: Apanthsa, k. Stamatopoyle.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Xqes, moy eipate oti ta Asfalistika Tameia den exasan, alla kerdisan. O k. Giannitshs leei to antiqeto, oti exasan 415 disekatommyria draxmes. Poia einai h alhqeia;

REPPAS: H alhqeia einai ayto poy eipe o k. Giannitshs, ayto poy eipa ki egw xqes, giati eipame to idio pragma, to opoio, omws, eseis den katalabate.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oxi. Alla lete eseis, alla eipe o k. Giannitshs.

REPPAS: Eipa oti diapistwqhke sth logistikh katagrafh pws yphrje apwleia yperajiwn metoxwn asfalistikwn tameiwn poy anerxetai se pososto 25,9%. An deite thn ejelijh twn ajiwn twn metoxwn stis opoies eixan ependysei ta asfalistika tameia apo to 1996 ews to 2000, qa deite oti paroysiasthke ayjhsh se pososto 894,4%, oson afora thn yperajia twn metoxwn, stis opoies eixe ependysei, ypo thn eyreia ennoia, to Dhmosio, ta Asfalistika Tameia. Ara, loipon, den dikaiologeitai ayth h kathgoria. Ginetai mia epilektikh xrhsh stoixeiwn, gia mia orismenh periodo, poy gnwrizete oti ayth h periodos htan -qa moy epitrecete na pw- oxi kalh gia th leitoyrgia toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Apo kei kai pera, bebaiws, oi ependyseis poy ginontai apo ta Asfalistika Tameia ginontai se titloys poy periexoyn oso ginetai mikrotero ependytiko kindyno. Den einai ``tzogadoros'' ena asfalistiko tameio. Den paizei kaqhmerina sto Xrhmatisthrio, kanei makroproqesmes ependyseis. Se teleytaia analysh, bebaiws apotypwnontai se stoixeia oi ependytikes drasthriothtes kai twn asfalistikwn tameiwn, omws, den prepei ta qemata ayta na apoteloyn antikeimeno mias tetoias syzhthshs, giati antilambaneste oti deyterogenws epidroyme arnhtika sth leitoyrgia toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Kalo einai na eimaste pio sygkrathmenoi sta sxolia mas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Giannitshs leei oti einai ``tzogadoroi'' sta Tameia kai ejhgei, kaqe xrono posa ebazan kai posa exanan. Den leei, apo to 1996 mexri tote, leei oti to 1999 kai to 2000, ebalan toso xrhmata. Opote ebazan synexeia, den ta ebalan to 1996 gia na ginoyn tosa to 2000. Epaizan kaqe xrono kai kaqe mhna. Edwse analytika stoixeia.

REPPAS: O k. Giannitshs leei to entelws antiqeto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pws leei to entelws antiqeto;

REPPAS: O k. Giannitshs leei oti den einai ``paixths'' poy symmetexei kaqhmerina sth leitoyrgia toy Xrhmatisthrioy ena asfalistiko tameio. O k. Giannitshs den leei ayto poy yposthrizete eseis. Ola ayta ta stoixeia anaferontai me akomh perissoteres leptomereies ston koinwniko proypologismo, ton opoio den exete melethsei. An qelete kai alla stoixeia einai sth diaqesh sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Afoy to leei o idios.

REPPAS: O koinwnikos proypologismos, loipon, anaferetai se ola ayta ta stoixeia, ta opoia ki egw, oso ginetai pio synoptika, anefera, xqes, edw.

BITALHS: Qa epanelqw sto qema me thn parembash twn Amerikanwn epitetrammenwn. Den einai h prwth fora poy otan eimaste mprosta sthn askhsh ``Nikhforos-Tojoths'' na dexomaste kapoies, entos h ektos eisagwgikwn, paraineseis apo thn amerikanikh pleyra, gia diaforoys logoys na akyrwsoyme ayth thn askhsh, na mataiwsoyme ena meros toy epixeirhsiakoy sxediasmoy ths. Qa sas rwthsw to ejhs: Sas problhmatizei ayth h diarkhs emmonh ths amerikanikhs pleyras, h opoia se ayth th sygkyria exei kapoia parapanw problhmata; Sas problhmatizei, omws, ayth h emmonh, oson afora thn askhsh ayth kai mhn jexnate oti persi eixan kanei diabhma na mhn pragmatopoihqoyn prosgeiwseis ellhnikwn aeroskafwn.

REPPAS: Den katalabainw, giati ayth thn wra, prepei na dwsoyme ektash se ena qema to opoio stoixeioqetei to ypostrwma gia dhmioyrgia entypwsewn peri dhqen antidikias metajy Elladas kai HPA. Oi HPA exoyn thn kybernhsh toys, exoyn toys diplwmatikoys ekproswpoys toys, metaferoyn tis qeseis toys kai exoyn dikaiwma na to kanoyn ayto. Emeis apo th dikh mas pleyra, me gnwmona to symferon ths xwras, kanoyme thn telikh epilogh. Opws swsta eipate kai alles xronies eixan diatypwqei diaforoi problhmatismoi, oson afora th diejagwgh askhsewn. Ayto poy telikws egine epibebaiwnei ayto poy molis prin aneptyja: Oti emeis eimaste aytoi poy kanoyme thn telikh epilogh, me gnwmona to symferon ths xwras mas. Pragmati eixe teqei, apo thn pleyra twn HPA, enocei ths persinhs askhshs ``Nikhforos-Tojoths'', o problhmatismos, an prepei na xrhsimopoihqoyn kai aeroskafh. Kai gnwrizete oti prosgeiwqhkan sthn Kypro maxhtika aeroskafh kai elaban meros se ayth thn askhsh. Ayto apotelei thn kalyterh epibebaiwsh, oti telikws tis epiloges tis kanoyme emeis me gnwmona to eqniko symferon. Epanalambanw, omws, oti den prepei na syzhtoyme, idiws ayth thn stigmh, ena tetoio qema, dinontas toy diastaseis poy den exei, dhmioyrgwntas malista thn entypwsh oti yparxei ena eidos antidikias, poy den yparxei. Alimono, an den exei th dynatothta mia kybernhsh na diatypwnei thn apoch ths se mia allh filh kybernhsh. Qa prepei na diakocoyme tis sxeseis mas, thn epikoinwnia mas; Ayto einai adianohto.

TAKHS: Se prosfath apanthsh sas eipate oti qa prepei na eimaste prosektikoi se prwtoboylies poy mporei na ekqesoyn th xwra. Qewreite oti to ayriano syllalhthrio, isws einai mia tetoia prwtoboylia poy mporei na xrhsimopoihqei apo kapoioys gi` ayto to skopo;

REPPAS: Pws mporoyme na krinoyme kati to opoio akomh den exei ginei kai den to gnwrizoyme;

TAKHS: Epeidh milhsate gia prwtoboylies poy mporei na ekqesoyn th xwra. Gi` ayto sas rwtw.

REPPAS: Ayto einai kati to opoio genikws isxyei kai prepei na to laboyme oloi ypoch mas. Kai eseis poy ergazeste sta MME kai emeis poy stelexwnoyme ta politika kommata.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Qelw na sas rwthsw, ean gnwrizete ta qemata poy eqese o Proedros ths DOE o k. Rongk ston k. Shmith sth synanthsh toys kai eidikotera an eqese qema asfaleias twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn.

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw to periexomeno ths syzhthshs ayths. Oi k. Rongk kai Osbalnt qa oloklhrwsoyn thn episkech toys sthn Ellada. Ta qemata asfaleias twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn einai chla stis proteraiothtes mas. Exoyme analabei oles tis sxetikes prwtoboylies, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisoyme me ton kalytero tropo ta piqana problhmata. Gnwrizete oti shmera o Prwqypoyrgos dexqhke kai ton ypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs k. Xrysoxoidh kai syzhthsan sxetika qemata. H Ellada proetoimazetai systhmatika, wste kai se ayto ton tomea oi Olympiakoi Agwnes toy 2004 na einai ychloy epipedoy, na diejaxqoyn dhladh se synqhkes apolyths asfaleias.

MAYRIDHS: Meta apo to tromokratiko xtyphma, maqainoyme oti h toyrkikh kybernhsh apofasise na epitaxynei thn ylopoihsh ejoplistikwn programmatwn ta opoia eixe anabalei, mataiwsei, logw ths oikonomikhs krishs sth xwra. Ti skeptetai h kybernhsh sto plaisio ths "amoibaiothtas" na proxwrhsei sthn epitaxynsh twn ejoplistikwn programmatwn poy eixe metakylhsei pali gia logoys amoibaiothtas;

REPPAS: Oson afora thn ejelijh toy ejoplistikoy programmatos sth xwra mas isxyoyn osa exoyme apofasisei. Den allazei tipota ws pros ayto. Molis prosfata eixame sxetikh syzhthsh sto KYSEA kai kaname leptomereis anakoinwseis. Kata ta alla, epitrecte moy na ekfrasw dhmosiws mia amfibolia gia th dynatothta ths Toyrkias na proxwrhsei se enisxysh twn ejoplistikwn programmatwn ths katw apo tis oikonomikes synqhkes stis opoies brisketai shmera. Ayto einai qema to opoio, opws gnwrizete, parakoloyqeitai apo to Dieqnes Nomismatiko Tameio, apo dieqneis organismoys poy exoyn kaqe logo na parakoloyqoyn pws "kylaei" h oikonomia kai h dhmosia zwh sthn Toyrkia. Apo ekei kai pera, h Toyrkia kanei tis epiloges ths. Emeis, me gnwmona to symferon, thn asfaleia kai thn yperaspish twn kyriarxikwn dikaiwmatwn ths xwras mas, kanoyme tis epiloges mas. Kai qewroyme oti oi epiloges poy exoyme kanei einai pros to symferon ths xwras, apo kaqe apoch, toso gia logoys asfaleias, oso kai gia logoys poy aforoyn thn anaptyjh, thn proodo kai thn eyhmeria twn politwn sthn Ellada.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: O Prwqypoyrgos, shmera, ektos apo tis synanthseis poy mas exete anakoinwsei, synanthqhke kai me ton epixeirhmatia k. Latsh;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw an egine tetoia synanthsh.

KAPPOS: Einai dynaton, otan h Politeia kleinei kapoia kanalia, ta opoia leitoyrgoysan gia sxedon 10 xronia...

REPPAS: Poia kanalia leitoyrgoysan gia 10 xronia kai ta ekleise h Politeia;

KAPPOS: To "Thle-twra", gia paradeigma.

REPPAS: Den exete dikio. Mhn mplekete se "xwrafia" poy den jerete.

KAPPOS: Epikratei isonomia se ayto ton topo; Enw kleinei to "Thle-twra" epitrepei se kapoia alla kanalia na ekpempoyn kai malista ena programma poy einai gnwsto poias tajhs einai.

REPPAS: Sas eipa, mhn mplekete. Den akoysate. To "Thle-twra" den exei kleisei, etsi opws to ennoeite. Ws staqmos dieqete mia syxnothta h opoia metabibasthke kai se ayth leitoyrgei pleon thleoptikos staqmos me to shma "Polis". Ara, exoyme metabibash enos perioysiakoy stoixeioy. To apekthse kapoios. Dieqete mia syxnothta gia mia orismenh periodo. Apo ekei kai pera, den shmainei oti mporei na katalabei allh syxnothta o epixeirhmatias, o opoios palaiotera dieqete to "Thle-twra". Kata synepeia, den prokeitai gia kleisimo staqmoy. To "Thle-twra" synexizei na leitoyrgei me to logotypo "Polis" sth syxnothta poy panta dieqete. Oson afora twra thn ekpomph programmatos apo diaforoys thleoptikoys staqmoys poy ayqaireta kai paranoma leitoyrgoyn, pragmati, otan entopizontai apo tis yphresies mas, stelnoyme sxetiko eggrafo sthn Eqnikh Epitroph Thlepikoinwniwn kai Taxydromeiwn (E.E.T.T.) poy einai armodia na stamathsei thn probolh aytwn twn programmatwn. Ayto ginetai se kaqe periptwsh. Gnwrizete oti h maxh me thn peirateia, toso stis radiosyxnothtes, oso kai stis thleoptikes syxnothtes, einai dyskolh kai diarkhs. Oydeis mporei na ekpempei paranoma to programma toy kai oydeis kalyptetai.

KAPPOS: Profanws, ayth h maxh einai apotyxhmenh.

REPPAS: H Eqnikh Epitroph Thlepikoinwniwn kai Taxydromeiwn den qa prepei na epitrecei se opoiodhpote kanali na ekpempei programma, pera apo ayta poy ekpempoyn nomimws. Nomimws ekpempoyn sth syxnothta poy dieqetan thn hmera poy kateqesan ton fakelo toys, metexontas sth diagwnistikh diadikasia, oi foreis ekeinoi poy ejepempan to programma toys ekeinh thn hmera sth dedomenh syxnothta. Oydeis allos. Se kamia allh syxnothta den mporei na metakinhqei opoiosdhpote h se kamia allh syxnothta den mporei, katalambanontas thn kapoios, na ekpempei to programma toy.

KAPPOS: H amartia twn keraiwn...

REPPAS: Gi` ayto akribws dhmioyrgeitai to Parko Keraiwn, prokeimenoy na egkatastaqoyn ekei, katw apo apolyth fylajh kai elegxo, oi keraies twn radiofwnikwn kai thleoptikwn staqmwn.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Yparxei ena kanali to opoio kaqe brady diafhmizei majilaria!

REPPAS: Oi fakeloi gia toys thleoptikoys staqmoys poy einai eqnikhs, perifereiakhs h topikhs embeleias exoyn diabibastei apo tis yphresies mas sto ESR apo ta perasmena Xristoygenna. To ESR exei sth diaqesh toy oloys aytoys toys fakeloys, prokeimenoy na toys ajiologhsei kai na xorhghsei tis adeies. Emeis den exoyme kamia parembash mexri tote se ayto to ergo.

SOYGLERHS: Yparxei xronikos orizontas poy qa jekaqaristei to topio mia gia panta;

REPPAS: Exoymei pei gi` ayto to erwthma na apeyqyneste sto ESR.

Sas eyxaristw.

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