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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 24 Septembrioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Qa moy epitrecete na sas anaferw to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy en taxei:

Ayth thn wra dexetai omada dhmosiografwn poy ergazontai se Mesa Enhmerwshs ths Germanias.

Ayrio, stis 10 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa dexqei to proedreio ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas toy PASOK. Argotera, stis 12 to meshmeri, qa episkefqei to Ypoyrgeio Gewrgias, opoy qa exei synergasia me thn politikh hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy kai toys proedroys twn organismwn poy epopteyontai apo to Ypoyrgeio Gewrgias.

Thn Tetarth, stis 10 to prwi, qa dexqei ton k. Zak Rongk, neo Proedro ths DOE kai ton k. Osbalnt, o opoios antikatesthse sthn prohgoymenh qesh toy ton k. Rongk, kaqws kai thn k. Aggelopoyloy. To meshmeri sth 1.30, qa exei synergasia me ton Ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Oikonomias Gianno Papantwnioy.

Thn Pempth, to meshmeri, o Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei thn Anejarthth Arxh toy Synhgoroy toy Polith.

Thn Paraskeyh, stis 10 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa dexqei thn Proedro toy Eyrwpaikoy Koinoboylioy k. Nikol Fonten, h opoia qa brisketai sthn Ellada. Argotera, stis 11.30, qa episkefqei ena neo ergo, to opoio oloklhrwqhke kai didetai gia xrhsh stoys polites sthn perioxh ths Akropolhs.

To Sabbato, stis 9 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa anaxwrhsei gia thn Komothnh, mesw Alejandroypolhs. Osoi endiafereste, se synergasia me to Grafeio Typoy toy PASOK, mporeite na symmetasxete se ayth thn episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Den prokeitai gia periodeia. O Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei dyo nea erga: To fragma ths Gratinhs kai ton atmohlektriko staqmo sthn Komothnh poy leitoyrgei me fysiko aerio.

Prepei na sas pw oti synedriash kybernhtikoy organoy, den anakoinwnw ayth th stigmh. H synedriash toy ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy gia to prosxedio toy Proypologismoy metatiqetai kat` arxhn gia thn epomenh Deytera, doqentos oti anablhqhkan oi synedriaseis shmantikwn dieqnwn organismwn, opws einai to Dieqnes Nomismatiko Tameio. Epiqymoyme na ajiopoihsoyme to xrono poy exoyme sth diaqesh mas, tis epomenes hmeres, prokeimenoy na syzhthsoyme ayto to qema sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Ara, o sxediasmos mas allazei sto shmeio ayto kai gia o,ti allo mesa sthn ebdomada, qa epanelqoyme tis epomenes hmeres.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Mas eipate oti o Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei thn Anejarthth Arxh toy Synhgoroy toy Polith kai ton k. Diamantoyro. Epeidh shmera hrqe pali sto fws ths dhmosiothtas ena porisma ths epitrophs toy Synhgoroy toy Polith kai afora thn paranomh, opws th xarakthrizei, bila ths ypoyrgoy k. Papazwh. Hqela na sas rwthsw ti mellei genesqai me thn k. Papazwh, h opoia einai kai melos ths kybernhshs. Ti qa ginei me ayto to qema kai an bebaiws o Prwqypoyrgos qa qelhsei na enhmerwqei perissotero apo thn Arxh, apo ton k. Diamantoyro;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh den exei kamia emplokh se ayto to qema. O Synhgoros toy Polith qetei ena qema, epishmainei ena problhma kai apeyqynetai sthn armodia yphresia. H armodia yphresia, symfwna me ton kanonismo leitoyrgias ths, qa prepei na ejetasei kai na antimetwpisei to qema mesa se sygkekrimeno xroniko diasthma. Qa prepei na anamenoyme tis apanthseis twn armodiwn yphresiwn, poy einai h poleodomikh yphresia h to YPEXWDE. H kybernhsh den exei kamia emplokh se ayto to qema. Qa anamenei na dei akribws th drasthriothta kai tis apanthseis poy qa dwsoyn oi armodies yphresies. Sas kalw ki esas na mhn protrexete, doqentos oti oi ekqeseis toy Synhgoroy toy Polith den apoteloyn kai apofaseis. Gi ayto, loipon, prin xrhsimopoioyme tetoioy eidoys lejeis, kalo einai na eimaste ligo sygkrathmenoi.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, egw den protrexw. Xrhsimopoihsa th fraseologia poy anaferetai sto porisma peri paranomias poy egine kai malista, to porisma zhtaei kai thn anaklhsh ths adeias. Kai erwtw: Otan to qema afora kapoio ftwxo, o opoios exei to ayqaireto toy, thn paragka toy kai speydoyme kai th gkremizoyme, en prokeimenw, poia einai h eyaisqhsia ths kybernhshs;

REPPAS: Prepei na sas pw oti gia oloys toys polites, anejarthtws ths idiothtas toys, o Synhgoros toy Polith otan ginetai dekths diaforwn aithmatwn, antimetwpizei me ton idio tropo ta qemata, analogws twn nomwn poy isxyoyn sthn patrida mas. Gia to sygkekrimeno qema, epeidh me thn erwthsh sas den anaptyssete to synolo toy qematos, o Synhgoros toy Polith apeyqynetai stis armodies yphresies. Qa anamenoyme, loipon, oi armodies yphresies na apanthsoyn. Den prepei na bgazete teliko symperasma, prin exete thn apanthsh twn armodiwn yphresiwn, oi opoies se sygkekrimeno xroniko diasthma dyo mhnwn, qa prepei na asxolhqoyn me to qema kai na diatypwsoyn thn telikh qesh toys. Anamenoyme, loipon, ki emeis ayth thn telikh qesh.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Den bgazw kanena symperasma. Epeidh tyxainei, opws eipa kai prin, h k. Papazwh na einai melos ths kybernhshs kai akoyw thn apanthsh sas oti den exei kamia emplokh h kybernhsh kai ola ayta ta dexomai giati einai swsta, omws den tiqetai ki ena qema hqikhs tajhs gia thn kybernhsh, th stigmh poy melos ths exei paranomhsei, symfwna me ta osa leei h Anejarthth Arxh toy Synhgoroy toy Polith;

REPPAS: Ma, gi ayto sas lew oti den anafereste sto synolo twn stoixeiwn toy qematos. Kai to kanete profanws skopimws. Giati, h Anejarthth Arxh, o Synhgoros toy Polith, leei oti meta th sygkentrwsh twn stoixeiwn kai thn ejetash apo tis dikes mas yphresies, apo ta dika mas stelexh, apeyqynomaste stis armodies yphresies poy einai oi mones, kata kyriolejia, armodies na antimetwpisoyn to qema. Oi apanthseis poy prepei na lhfqoyn ypoch einai oi apanthseis poy qa dwsoyn gia to qema ayto oi armodies yphresies. Oxi o Synhgoros toy Polith mono. Eseis ayto to apokoptete. Menete sth diapistwsh toy Synhgoroy toy Polith. Sas lew, loipon, oti o Synhgoros toy Polith perimenei th qesh twn armodiwn yphresiwn. Prin yparjei ayth h qesh, den mporei na bgalei kaneis ena teliko kai asfales symperasma. Ayto einai adiko gia opoiondhpote polith, anejarthtws ths idiothtas toy. Otan miloyme gia thn isonomia, gia thn isopoliteia, ayto qa prepei na ginetai sebasto pros oles tis kateyqynseis.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Dinetai ena paradeigma apo kybernhtiko stelexos@

REPPAS: Xairomai giati epikaleiste to Synhgoro toy Polith, ena qesmo ton opoio kaqierwse h kybernhsh mas, sto plaisio ths dhmioyrgias qesmwn gia thn anaptyjh kai dieyrynsh twn dikaiwmatwn toy polith kai thn oysiastikoterh leitoyrgia ths legomenhs koinwnias twn politwn. Xairomai, loipon, poy eseis qewreite qesfath ayth thn ekqesh toy Synhgoroy toy Polith. Emeis dhmioyrghsame ayto to qesmo gia na asxoleitai me ayta ta qemata. O Synhgoros toy Polith ekane th doyleia toy, menei twra stis armodies yphresies, kat` analogo tropo, na feroyn se peras to diko toys ergo.

KANELLOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh qewrei qesfath thn epitroph ayth;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh gnwrizei poio einai to nomiko kaqestws. Toys nomoys toys exei chfisei h Boylh. Prepei na ginontai sebastoi kai apo thn kybernhsh kai apo to Synhgoro toy Polith kai apo toys dhmosiografoys kai apo esas. Anamenoyme, loipon, oi armodies yphresies poy exoyn kata nomo thn armodiothta na diatypwsoyn thn telikh toys qesh.

TAKHS: Prin apo ligo, o k. Roysopoylos eipe oti tiqetai qema hqikhs tajews kai zhthse amesa thn paraithsh ths k. Papazwh. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

REPPAS: Pisteyw oti aytoy toy eidoys h antipoliteysh -kai oloi to antilambanontai- den exei kanena oysiastiko periexomeno, giati kineitai se ena epipedo dhmioyrgias entypwsewn, xwris oysia kai baqos. H ocimh anagnwrish toy ergoy toy Synhgoroy toy Polith, akomh kai apo thn antipoliteysh, einai to mono qetiko stoixeio poy mporw na entopisw sth dhlwsh toy k. Roysopoyloy. Kata ta alla, o sebasmos sth nomimothta kai th dikaiosynh, epiballei se oloys mas na anamenoyme th qesh twn armodiwn yphresiwn, meta thn oloklhrwsh toy ergoy poy o idios o Synhgoros toy Polith toys zhta na feroyn se peras. Pisteyw, loipon, oti qa prepei oloi mas na eimaste pio sygkrathmenoi, pio ypeyqynoi, gia na eimaste telikws pio ajiopistoi.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate, "emeis dhmioyrghsame thn Anejarthth Arxh". Giati, me ayta poy lete twra, thn jeftilizete;

REPPAS: H Anejarthth Arxh einai ayth poy apeyqynetai stis armodies yphresies. Eseis jeftilizete thn Anejarthth Arxh, an qewreite oti einai jekommenh kai den synergazetai me tis armodies yphresies, opws akribws problepetai, symfwna me toys kanones poy kai h idia leitoyrgei kai oi alles, kata periptwsh, armodies yphresies prepei na leitoyrgoyn kai na synergazontai me to Synhgoro toy Polith.

KAPPOS: Se synqhkes poy hdh leitoyrgei to arqro 5 toy NATO, toy opoioy oysiastika thn energopoihsh prokalesan oi HPA, qelw na rwthsw to ejhs: H ellhnikh kybernhsh, h opoia einai synypeyqynh opws kai oi ypoloipes xwres toy NATO apenanti sta osa prokeitai na ginoyn, ti roh plhroforiwn exei apo tis HPA, se sxesh me tis kinhseis twn HPA.

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, eipate oti einai synypeyqynh h ellhnikh kybernhsh, yponowntas oti prokeitai na symbei kati poly kako, ara h ellhnikh kybernhsh, kata th dikh sas apoch, einai hdh kathgoroymenh gia ayto poy prokeitai na akoloyqhsei. Jekaqarizw, gia mia akomh fora, oti eimaste ametaqeta topoqethmenoi apenanti sthn tromokratia kai toys tromokrates. To metwpo ayto gia emas einai diarkes. Den exoyme kamia talanteysh, den deixnoyme kamia katanohsh kai den diaqetoyme thn elaxisth anoxh apenanti stoys tromokrates kai ta erga toys. Ayto to opoio prepei na exete ypoch sas einai toyto: H Ellada einai mia xwra poy anhkei sthn E.E., sthn ONE kai sto NATO. Sto plaisio ayths ths Symmaxias, qa antapokriqoyme stis ypoxrewseis mas, epeidh ayto epiballei to symferon ths xwras kai ayto epitassoyn h yperaspish twn arxwn ths dikaiosynhs, ths eleyqerias kai oi kanones toy sebasmoy twn dikaiwmatwn toy polith. Ayto einai kati poy qa prepei na to exete pantote ypoch sas. O agwnas kata ths tromokratias einai agwnas yper ths dhmokratias. An epikrathsei h tromokratia, qa katalyqei h dhmokratia. Ayth, loipon, h qesh mas einai oristikh kai ametaqeth. Apo ekei kai pera, o tropos ejeidikeyshs ayths ths politikhs qeshs poy anaferetai stis ajies kai ta protagmata ths politikhs mas, antimetwpizetai kaqe fora pantote me gnwmona to symferon ths xwras kai toy ellhnikoy laoy, en onomati aytwn twn ajiwn, poy einai o gnwmonas ths politikhs mas. To Syntagma kai oi nomoi toy kratoys qa thrhqoyn aparegklita, se kaqe periptwsh, efoson xreiastei na proxwrhsoyme se energeies poy pairnoyn enan allon, praktiko, pleon, xarakthra. Ayto, omws, den einai toy parontos. Den exoyme plhrofories, den exoyme ypoch mas sxedia h apofaseis poy na apaitoyn apo emas th symmetoxh me allo energo tropo se kapoies drasthriothtes poy prokeitai na analhfqoyn apo thn pleyra twn HPA. Einai, loipon, prowro na syzhtoyme otidhpote tetoio. H qesh mas exei ginei safhs. Parakalw na arkesteite se ayth thn kathgorhmatikh qesh.

KAPPOS: Den rwthsa akribws ayto kai nomizw oti oysiastika den me kanate sofotero, giati epanalabete tis pagies qeseis ths kybernhshs. Egw ayto poy rwthsa htan, an h ellhnikh kybernhsh exei oysiastikes plhrofories gia tis kinhseis ths Amerikhs kai an, en telei, apaitei na exei plhroforhsh apo thn pleyra twn HPA.

REPPAS: Sas apanthsa. Qa exoyme th synergasia poy antapokrinetai sto epipedo twn ypoxrewsewn poy prepei na analaboyme. Ayth thn wra den exei qesei oydeis qema sth xwra mas na symmetasxei me stratiwtikes h xersaies dynameis se mia opoiasdhpote morfhs stratiwtikh energeia. Den exei teqei kanena qema. To qetete eseis kai qelete na to syzhthsoyme kat` ayton ton prwqystero tropo twra. Den einai swsto ayto.

KAPPOS: Dhladh, otidhpote prokycei kai opoia apofash parei h ellhnikh kybernhsh, qa einai se epipedo stigmiaio;

REPPAS: To oti den einai se epipedo stigmiaio, alla exei diaxronikh shmasia kai ajia h qesh mas, prokyptei apo ta osa eipa prin. Giati, h politikh mas sthrizetai se kapoies ajies tis opoies periegraca. Ayth einai h arxh ths politikhs mas. Ayto kai mono deixnei oti h politikh mas den exei stigmiaio xarakthra.

KAPPOS: Oi HPA exoyn oysiastika kaqorisei ton tropo me ton opoio qa enhmerwnoyn toys polites toys kai toys polites oloy toy kosmoy, se sxesh me tis polemikes drasthriothtes toys h otidhpote allo. Kai h kateyqynsh ayth, einai oysiastika mhdenikh roh plhroforiwn. Ennow pros toys polites. Qa hqela na jerw, an einai boylhsh kai ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs na akoloyqhsei ayth thn taktikh.

REPPAS: Den exei kamia sxesh to ena me to allo. H kybernhsh twn HPA qa apofasizei pws qa xeiristei ena qema poy afora ekeinh kai toys polites ths. Emeis, exontas dhlwsei thn allhleggyh mas pros ton amerikaniko lao, ayth thn wra ths dokimasias toy, qa apofasisoyme pws qa xeiristoyme qemata poy aforoyn th dikh mas ennomh tajh. Ta qemata ayta qa ta xeiristoyme me sebasmo toy grammatos kai toy pneymatos toy Syntagmatos ths xwras mas.

MIXAHL: Qa hqela na kanw dyo erwthseis. Prwton, epibebaiwnete plhrofories oti mas zhthqhke na perasoyn maxhtika aeroplana twn HPA apo ton ellhniko enaerio xwro sto telos ths perasmenhs ebdomadas, to Sabbato sygkekrimena. Kai deyteron, oi HPA eipan -kai o Prwqypoyrgos to epanelabe meta th Synodo Koryfhs stis Bryjelles, to brady ths Paraskeyhs- oti kaqe xwra qa prosdiorisei h idia ton tropo poy qa symbalei se ayth thn en dynamei Symmaxia. Mporeite na mas peite, h ellhnikh kybernhsh pws skeftetai na symbalei, an exei katalhjei twra.

REPPAS: Oson afora to prwto qema, gnwrizete oti eimaste melh mias Symmaxias. Einai aytonohto kai gi` ayto einai fysiko kai anamenomeno, na dwsoyme thn egkrish mas gia xwroys h gia mesa twn opoiwn h xrhsimopoihsh mporei na odhghsei sthn epiteyjh toy epidiwkomenoy skopoy. Ayto einai kati sto opoio exw apanthsei, hdh, ektos politikhs enhmerwshs, xqes sthn Tripolh, apantwntas se sxetikes erwthseis synadelfwn sas. Ayto eprepe na to qewreite dedomeno. Den einai qema to opoio xreiazetai kapoia apanthsh me nea stoixeia. H apanthsh einai dedomenh se aytes tis periptwseis.

Deyteron, ayto to opoio exoyme diatypwsei ws qesh, ayth thn wra, einai to politiko plaisio poy ekfrazei thn allhleggyh kai th symparastash mas. Oson afora twra thn praktikh efarmogh kai th symmetoxh mas, me ejeidikeymeno tropo, se opoia stratiwtikoy xarakthra drasthriothta, ayto einai kati to opoio den exei zhthqei. Giati, tetoio qema den exei teqei apo opoiondhpote allo, ektos ths xwras mas. Me ayth thn ennoia, h xwra mas den einai ayth poy qa analabei prwtoboylia na zhthsei, apeyqynomenh sto NATO h stis HPA, na parei meros se mia epixeirhsh. An ths teqei tetoio qema, qa to antimetwpisei, symfwna me tis arxes kai toys kanones gia toys opoioys milhsa prin.

IWANNOY: Yparxei, apo xqes, mia perirreoysa atmosfaira, oti kapoies xwres, h Eyrwph kai h Amerikh, perimenoyn ena neo tromokratiko xtyphma. Qelw na rwthsw, an h kybernhsh mas exei labei kapoia epipleon metra h an anhsyxei idiaiterws h an exei stoixeia gi` ayto.

REPPAS: Ekpempetai ena tetoio mhnyma endexomenhs neas tromokratikhs epiqeshs. Ola ayta, bebaiws, qa prepei na ajiologoyntai, na elegxontai kai na diastayrwnontai oi plhrofories. Giati, antilambaneste pws zoyme se mia periodo, opoy h paraplhroforhsh einai poly eykolh, logw ths plhqwras twn stoixeiwn ta opoia diakinoyntai, me aformh thn prosfath tromokratikh epiqesh stis HPA. Pisteyw oti den dikaiologeitai opoiadhpote anhsyxia, oson afora th xwra mas. Emeis, me tis armodies yphresies, parakoloyqoyme pws ejelissontai ta pragmata. Den exoyme stoixeia tetoia poy na mas odhgoyn sto analogo symperasma, oti epikeitai mia tetoia tromokratikh epiqesh.

BITALHS: Qa hqela na synexisw thn erwthsh toy synadelfoy k. Mixahl. To Sabbato, doqhke adeia gia na dielqoyn dyo @an den me apata h mnhmh moy- amerikanika aeroskafh apo ton ellhniko enaerio xwro kai na pane sth bash toy Insirlik. To erwthma moy einai, ean exei ypoblhqei aithma apo thn amerikanikh pleyra, na yparjei apo twra paraxwrhsh aytwn twn dieykolynsewn stoys aerodiadromoys h qa ypoballetai aithma, kaqe fora poy qeloyn na perna enas sygkekrimenos ariqmos aeroplanwn; Dhladh, einai synoliko to aithma poy ypoblhqhke h aforoyse mono ta dyo aeroskafh;

REPPAS: To qema ayto exei teqei apo thn edw presbeia twn HPA pros to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, to opoio armodiws diabibase to sxetiko aithma sto ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas. H qesh poy elabe h kybernhsh, mesw twn armodiwn ypoyrgeiwn, einai qetikh, sto plaisio twn ypoxrewsewn poy exoyme analabei. Ayto afora th xrhsimopoihsh toy enaerioy xwroy ths patridas mas, me tropo poy einai symfwnos me toys kanones me toys opoioys leitoyrgei h Symmaxia.

GARGALAKOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean exei labei h kybernhsh kapoia metra ayjhmenhs epagrypnhshs se "eyaisqhtoys stoxoys" entos ths xwras.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti meta thn ekdhlwsh ayths ths tromokratikhs epiqeshs, asfalws, yparxei mia pio entatikh prospaqeia twn armodiwn yphresiwn gia ton elegxo oswn mporei na qewrhqei oti apoteloyn stoxo epiqeshs sthn Ellada. Eite einai xwroi, eite einai proswpa. Ayto poy eprepe na kanoyme -kai oloi nomizw symfwneite- einai na enteinoyme thn prospaqeia mas. Den yparxei kati allo, peran aytoy. Kai epeidh h shmerinh eidhseografia anaferei oti o ``DHMOKRITOS'' diekoce th leitoyrgia toy, gia sygkekrimeno logo, sas lew oti ayto den exei kamia sxesh me thn prosfath tromokratikh epiqesh. H diakoph ths leitoyrgias toy ofeiletai sthn ethsia synthrhsh poy ginetai stis egkatastaseis toy ``DHMOKRITOY'' opws dhlwse kai o epikefalhs toy, gia na mh ginontai tetoioy eidoys sysxetismoi, poy den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. Antiqetws, mporei na dhmioyrghsoyn anhsyxia.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Se sxesh me to prohgoymeno poy eipate, gia thn paraxwrhsh ellhnikoy enaerioy xwroy gia amerikanika maxhtika aeroskafh, exei hdh doqei o xwros; Exoyn perasei apo ton ellhniko enaerio xwro;

REPPAS: Apanthsa prin apo ligo.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Me kaqe epifylajh, loipon, na sas pw mia plhroforia, oti amerikanika maxhtika aeroskafh exoyn prosgeiwqei sto palio aerodromio toy Ellhnikoy gia anefodiasmo. H plhroforia einai alhqhs;

REPPAS: Den epibebaiwnetai ayth h plhroforia.

KAPPOS: Sthn Ellada, opws kai se alles xwres, exoyn jekinhsei h programmatizontai antipolemikes ekdhlwseis. Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh skeftetai na antimetwpisei diaforetika aytes tis ekdhlwseis, apo oti tis antimetwpize mexri twra kai ean qa apagoreyqei h prospelash diadhlwtwn pros thn amerikanikh presbeia.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti to Syntagma ths xwras prepei na ginetai sebasto kai na threitai apo oloys, eite einai oi armodies yphresies poy exoyn epifortistei me to kaqhkon na perifroyroyn th dhmosia tajh kai thn asfaleia twn politwn, eite einai oi diadhlwtes, oi polites oi opoioi diatypwnontas ena aithma h proballontas tis qeseis toys, probainoyn se energeies oi opoies syxna exoyn kai ena biaio xarakthra. Ayto prepei na apofeygetai. To Syntagma mas desmeyei oloys, se opoia pleyra ki an anhkei o kaqenas. Ayto qa ginei kai sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh eklaphsan kapoies narkes, gnwrizete ean yparxoyn newteres plhrofories gyrw apo to qema ayto; Poioi tis phran kai gia poy;

REPPAS: Gnwrizw oti oi armodies yphresies dienergoyn elegxo, meta apo ayto to symban. Den yparxoyn perissotera stoixeia sth diaqesh toys, toylaxiston, mexri ayth thn wra poy syzhtoyme.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den anhsyxei thn kybernhsh ayto to qema;

REPPAS: Asfalws den einai eyxaristh ayth h ejelijh. Dienergeitai elegxos, wste to syntomotero dynato na gnwrizoyme poioi einai aytoi poy exoyn diaprajei thn kloph toy sygkekrimenoy ylikoy kai gia poio logo, poia einai ta kinhtra toys. Ayto, omws, den mporoyme na to poyme ayth thn wra.

IWANNOY: Exete kapoies yponoies h kapoies endeijeis, oti ayth h kloph mporei na afora th drash toy UCK. h toy UCC, ayths ths neas, telos pantwn....

REPPAS: Ayth thn wra einai ayqaireto na bgalei kapoios ena symperasma, poly perissotero, ena tetoio sygkekrimeno symperasma, dhladh, sysxetishs ayths ths klophs me sygkekrimenes organwseis.

KWSTANTHS: Pws sxoliazete th dhmoskophsh ths @KAPA RESEARCH@ kai kyriws dhlwseis orismenwn stelexwn ths kybernhshs poy espeysan oysiastika na panhgyrisoyn, an kai sthn proqesh chfoy kai thn parastash nikhs o Prwqypoyrgos kai to PASOK ypoleipontai aisqhta ths Neas Dhmokratias.

REPPAS: Exoyme panhgyrisei arketes fores. Edw kai polla xronia panhgyrizoyme, meta apo tis eklogikes nikes mas. Epeidh gnwmonas ths politikhs mas einai to symferon ths xwras kai toy ellhnikoy laoy kai oxi h prosdokia kalwn apotelesmatwn, sto plaisio metrhsewn, poy allwste einai polles, mesa sthn tetraeth qhteia mias kybernhshs, qa synexisoyme thn politikh mas. Stoxos mas einai, thn katallhlh stigmh, exontas oloklhrwsei to ergo mas, exontas efarmosei to programma mas, na kerdisoyme kai pali thn empistosynh toy ellhnikoy laoy, h opoia qa ekfrastei me thn chfo toy stis kalpes, gia na panhgyrisoyme tote gia mia akomh fora.

Sas eyxaristw.

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