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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 11 Ioylioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Qa moy epitrecete na sas enhmerwsw oti o Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei th Mosxa. Qa anaxwrhsei thn Kyriakh gia th rwsikh prwteyoysa kai th Deytera qa synanthsei to neo Proedro ths Dieqnoys Olympiakhs Epitrophs.

Thn Trith, stis 12 to meshmeri, qa exei synanthsh me ton Proedro Poytin kai to idio brady qa epistrecei sthn Aqhna.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Den qa isxyrizomoyn oti yparxei diastash apocewn Elladas kai Kyproy, alla qa elega oti ypoboskei mia anhsyxia sta kypriaka kommata kai thn koinh gnwmh, ta opoia ekfrazontai mesa apo mia epistolh poy esteile prosfata o Proedros toy DHSY k. Anastasiadhs pros ton k. Prwqypoyrgo, apo o,ti plhroforoymai, sthn opoia anaferei thn anhsyxia toy gia thn politikh xamhlwn tonwn poy askei h Ellada me thn Toyrkia kai h opoia den mporei, opws leei, na einai monopleyrh kai h opoia egkymonei kindynoys kai gia to Kypriako. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, qa moy epitrecete na kanw mia diadikastikh parathrhsh. Den einai swsto na syzhtoyme gia to periexomeno mias epistolhs h na ginetai gnwsto to periexomeno ths, xwris h epistolh ayth na exei fqasei ston apodekth ths.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Ston Typo, grafthke. Den th fernw ws prwtos egw.

REPPAS: Ara, epibebaiwnete ayto poy lew. Einai dynato na gnwrizei o Typos ayto poy den gnwrizei o Prwqypoyrgos h o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn h opoios einai o apodekths ths epistolhs;

KAPPOS: Milhse o k. Anastasiadhs gia to periexomeno ths epistolhs.

REPPAS: Kai anakoinwse to periexomeno, xwris na to gnwrizoyn aytoi oi opoioi qa laboyn thn epistolh. Dhladh, prwta gnwrizoyn oi dhmosiografoi h oi polites ths Kyproy poio einai to periexomeno ths epistolhs kai meta o Prwqypoyrgos ths Elladas, o opoios ypotiqetai oti einai ekeinos ston opoio apeyqynetai h epistolh. Telikws, den apeyqynetai ston Prwqypoyrgo h sthn ellhnikh kybernhsh h epistolh. Apeyqynetai sthn koinh gnwmh ths Kyproy, ayto katalabainw. Ara, loipon, prwton, yparxei ena qema diadikasias. Deyteron, yparxei omws kai to qema oysias. Qa prepei na pw oti thn politikh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs thn apofasizei, th xarazei kai thn askei h ellhnikh kybernhsh, kaneis allos. H ellhnikh kybernhsh akoloyqei ejwterikh politikh proaspishs toy eqnikoy symferontos. H proaspish toy eqnikoy symferontos epiballei se mas, sthn ellhnikh kybernhsh, oxi mono thn paroysa, alla se kaqe ellhnikh kybernhsh, na qetoyme to kypriako zhthma stis prwtes qeseis, se poly ychlh proteraiothta, oson afora thn ejwterikh politikh ths xwras mas. Ayto kaname panta, ayto kanoyme twra, ayto qa kanoyme kai sto mellon. Me thn ejwterikh politikh poy akoloyqoyme exoyme bohqhsei, wste to kypriako zhthma na apasxolei qetika th Dieqnh Koinothta. Oson afora, de, thn entajh ths Kyproy sthn E.E., ta bhmata poy exoyn ginei einai qeamatika. Se ayth thn prospaqeia ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, prepei na pw oti h kypriakh kybernhsh exei thn poly shmantikh dikh ths symbolh, wste h dikh mas politikh na apodidei karpoys. Giati h kypriakh kybernhsh exei deijei ta teleytaia xronia, oti toso sto plaisio toy OHE, oso kai genikotera sto plaisio ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas, se polymeres h dimeres epipedo, askei mia politikh h opoia deixnei pws h kypriakh kybernhsh einai enas ajiopistos synomilhths, oti h kypriakh kybernhsh exei aisqhsh toy eqnikoy xreoys ths kai akoloyqei mia politikh me gnwmona to symferon ths Kyproy. Emeis, exoyme breqei -gnwrizete poly kala, idiaiterws eseis poy parakoloyqeite to kypriako zhthma- se mia synexh epafh me thn kypriakh kybernhsh, mesa apo synanthseis kai thlefwnikes epikoinwnies. H synergasia mas, loipon, einai synexhs kai adialeipth. Kai mporw na pw oti ston tomea ayto exoyme odhghqei se poly kalytero shmeio, dhladh, ston tomea poy afora to kypriako zhthma. H ejwterikh politikh ths xwras einai dedomenh kai gi` ayth thn ejwterikh politikh eimaste yperhfanoi.

Prepei na pw, epishs, oti oxi mono proaspizoyme kai proagoyme ta eqnika symferonta, mesa sta opoia entassoyme idiaiterws to kypriako zhthma, alla bohqame, wste h Ellada na apokta ena rolo poly pera apo ta oria sta opoia ekineito, mexri protinos, h ejwterikh politikh ths xwras mas. Eimaste prwtagwnistes twn ejelijewn sthn eyryterh perioxh. Ayto to rolo qeloyme na synexisoyme na ton askoyme, giati etsi pisteyoyme oti metajy twn allwn prowqoyme kai to eqniko symferon.

SOYRMELIDHS: Xqes kai shmera, blepei to fws ths dhmosiothtas ekqesh amerikanikhs trapezas, ths Merrill Lynch, opoy ginetai anafora gia ypertimhmenes ajies metoxwn triwn trapezwn poy exoyn diadramatisei shmantiko rolo sthn anaptyjh ta teleytaia xronia, sthn Eqnikh, thn Emporikh kai thn Alpha Bank. Qewreite oti qigetai genikotera to oikonomiko topio;

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, epeidh anafereste sth leitoyrgia toy Xrhmatisthrioy, qa epanalabw thn pagia qesh mas: Den qa prepei na eynohsoyme thn, estw kai me emmeso tropo, politikopoihsh toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Opws, epishs, den qa epitrecoyme th "xrhmatisthriopoihsh" ths politikhs. Den qa prepei to ena na ephreazei to allo, me tetoio tropo, wste to ena na ejartatai amesws apo to allo. Den eynooyme oyte thn politikopoihsh toy Xrhmatisthrioy, oyte th "xrhmatisthriopoihsh" ths politikhs.

To Xrhmatisthrio prepei na to afhsoyme na leitoyrgei aytonoma, na afhsoyme makria thn politikh apo to Xrhmatisthrio.

Oson afora thn oikonomia, gnwrizete oti oi prwtoboylies poy exoyme analabei, exoyn apodwsei. H ellhnikh oikonomia -anagnwrizetai apo oloys- brisketai se ena epipedo poly kalytero apo o,ti sto prosfato parelqon. Polloi dieqneis organismoi, me polloys deiktes, metroyn to epipedo ths ellhnikhs oikonomias kai oloi anagnwrizoyn th beltiwsh ths qeshs ths xwras mas ston oikonomiko tomea.

Oson afora to fainomeno poy sygkyriaka anekyce, ths ayjhshs toy plhqwrismoy, prepei na pw oti kai alles xwres exoyn ayjhmeno plhqwrismo, thn periodo ayth. O paragontas ston opoio ofeiletai ayth h ayjhsh einai gnwstos, einai h timh twn opwrokhpeytikwn proiontwn. Pisteyoyme oti o kyklos aytos qa kleisei sto telos toy kalokairioy kai qa exoyme mia kaqodikh poreia apo to Septembrio kai meta. Kai en pash periptwsei, einai sth diaqesh sas o pinakas me tis times toy plhqwrismoy stis alles xwres ths E.E., prokeimenoy na bgalete ta symperasmata sas. H Ollandia exei plhqwrismo poy kymainetai sto 5,4%, h Portogalia exei plhqwrismo poy kineitai sto 4,9%, h Ispania exei plhqwrismo 4,2%, h Irlandia exei plhqwrismo poy kineitai sto 4,1% kai alles xwres exoyn epishs ychlotero plhqwrismo apo to diko mas. Den prepei, loipon, na dinetai h entypwsh oti h ellhnikh oikonomia brisketai se mia dyskolh qesh, wste na apoklinei apo tis oikonomies twn allwn xwrwn ths E.E. kai ej aytoy toy logoy na dhmioyrgeitai kapoio genikotero problhma. Kaqe allo. O Proypologismos ekteleitai me ajiopistia. Qa exoyme eystoxia, oson afora toys stoxoys poy qesame sthn arxh toy xronoy, qa einai pleonasmatikos Proypologismos. Ola ayta, einai stoixeia poy deixnoyn oti den dikaiologeitai ayth h kritikh gia thn poreia ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Kai ayto prepei na einai safes.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti den qa epitrecete thn politikopoihsh toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Poios thn ekane; O Prwqypoyrgos den ebgaine; O ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias den ebgaine; Alla "papagalakia" ths kybernhshs den ebgainan kai miloysan gia to Xrhmatisthrio; O Karatzas den ebgaine;

REPPAS: Eseis gia kaqe erwthsh poy kanete, exete kai thn apanthsh. H apanthsh sas pantote einai mia apanthsh enantion ths kybernhshs. Giati, loipon, kanete thn erwthsh; Sas parakalw! Mperdeyete th doyleia poy kanete sthn efhmerida sas, opoy grafete tis apoceis sas, me th doyleia poy prepei na kanoyme edw, eseis kai egw.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sas lew, poios politikopoihse. Moy lete;

REPPAS: Oydeis apo emas politikopoihse to Xrhmatisthrio. Mporw na pw oti to politikopoioyn ekeinoi poy to episkeptontai se krisimes stigmes ths leitoyrgias toy, zhtoyn plhrofories h kataggelloyn xrhmatisthriakoys qesmoys gia na dhmioyrgoyn entypwseis, gia mikrokommatikoys logoys. Gnwrizete poioi einai aytoi. To ekanan sto parelqon. Ara, loipon, einai oi teleytaioi poy mporoyn na miloyn. As afhsoyme to Xrhmatisthrio makria apo thn politikh. As sebastoyme toys ependytes, megaloys kai mikroys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia ton Prwqypoyrgo, to lete;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poioi episkefqhkan to Xrhmatisthrio. O Prwqypoyrgos den htan anamesa se aytoys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gnwrizete th xqesinh dhlwsh toy k. Papantwnioy gia to Xrhmatisthrio, apo tis Bryjelles; Giati milhse gia to Xrhmatisthrio, efoson den to politikopoieite;

REPPAS: Kai ti eipe o k. Papantwnioy erwtwmenos; Ayto to opoio lew kai egw: Mhn politikopoieite to Xrhmatisthrio. Dhladh, eipe se oloys -kai se sas- mhn kanete ayto to opoio kanete twra. Ayto eipe o k. Papantwnioy kai eixe poly dikio. Eseis den exete dikio.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, giati epembainei h ellhnikh kybernhsh sthn eklogh toy Patriarxh sta Ierosolyma kai giati, opws elexqh ekei, edwse entolh na kopoyn dyo episkopoi;

REPPAS: Antilambaneste oti ayta einai apokyhmata fantasias kai malista qa elega noshrhs fantasias. H ellhnikh kybernhsh sebetai thn aytonomia ths eklogikhs diadikasias, giati sebomaste thn paradosh kai to rolo aytoy toy shmantikoy Patriarxeioy. Gnwrizete oti pantote akoloyqoyme mia politikh arxwn kai oxi proswpwn. Elpizoyme, to Swma twn Eklektorwn, na kanei thn epilogh ekeinh poy qa odhghsei to Patriarxeio sto na synexizei na askei, me ton katallhlo tropo, tis leitoyrgies toy. Ayth einai h qesh mas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den exei kanei kapoia parembash to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, o idios o ypoyrgos;

REPPAS: Apanthsa se ayto kai h apanthsh poy edwsa htan safhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oi Israhlinoi lene oti to zhthse to ellhniko ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn.

REPPAS: Den moy kanei entypwsh oti eseis pote den pisteyete thn ellhnikh kybernhsh, k. Stamatopoyle.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw lew, ti lene oi alloi. Eseis ti apantate; Exete apanthsh;

REPPAS: Apanthsa prin kai h apanthsh htan plhrhs.

BIDALH: Sto tajidi toy Prwqypoyrgoy, profanws o k. Shmiths qa synodeyetai kai apo ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn. Einai programmatismeno ayto.

Ektos apo ta dimerh, sth synanthsh me ton Poytin, poia einai ta alla qemata ths atzentas;

REPPAS: Ta qemata poy apasxoloyn tis dyo xwres. Qa ejetasoyn tis ejelijeis sthn eyryterh perioxh, sth notioanatolikh Eyrwph kai bebaiws, qemata poy exoyn dimeres endiaferon, poy aforoyn tis sxeseis Elladas-Rwsias.

KAPPOS: Gia to qema poy rwthse prohgoymenws o k. Stamatopoylos, qa balw tis ejhs parametroys: Prwton, an h ellhnikh kybernhsh dexetai ws dokimh thn parembash twn israhlinwn arxwn gia ton apokleismo toylaxiston pente ypochfiwn patriarxwn gia to sygkekrimeno qrono. Kai deyteron, yparxoyn kapoies kathgories gia parembaseis toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn oi opoies den apeyqynontai apo edw kai apo ekei. Apeyqynontai sygkekrimena apo thn koinothta twn Ierarxwn toy Panagioy Tafoy -den jerw pws legetai akribws- kai malista kai se xqesinobradinh toys anakoinwsh. Exoyn yparjei kai sto parelqon, alla yphrje kai xqesinobradinh anakoinwsh ths sygkekrimenhs koinothtas. Ep` aytoy qa hqela thn apanthsh sas.

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, gnwrizete poia einai h diadikasia poy akoloyqeitai gia thn eklogh toy Patriarxh. Ypoballetai katalogos stis arxes twn kratwn ths perioxhs. H diadikasia ayth pagiws akoloyqeitai. To idio ginetai kai sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh. Emeis den exoyme opoiadhpote parembash, giati, opws eipa sthn arxh, sebomaste thn aytonomia ayths ths eklogikhs diadikasias. Kai oydepote askhsame allh politikh, peran ths politikhs arxwn, epeidh epiqymoyme to Patriarxeio na synexisei na antapokrinetai sthn apostolh toy. Kaqenas mporei na leei tis apoceis toy. Ayto, omws, poy exei shmasia einai h alhqeia. Emeis, me th stash mas, yphretoyme thn alhqeia kai to symferon toy Patriarxeioy, epeidh akribws prepei na to sthrijoyme ston poly dyskolo rolo, se mia perioxh poy einai neyralgikh. Ayto kanoyme, ayth einai h politikh mas kai ola ta alla den exoyn sxesh me mas.

KAPPOS: Ws pros to qema ths diadikasias: Kapoioi Ierarxes ekei, isxyrizontai oti olo to nomiko kaqestws sthrizetai se iordaniko nomo. Anejarthta apo ayto h oxi, egw rwthsa sygkekrimena, ean qewrei h kybernhsh -piqanon na einai sto plaisio twn armodiothtwn ths israhlinhs kybernhshs na probei se kapoioys apokleismoys- oti einai dokimh, ean einai sto plaisio ths kalhs qelhshs h kinhsh twn Israhlinwn.

REPPAS: Isxyei ena plaisio poy exoyn apodexqei oloi kai ayto qa isxysei kai sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh. Qema allaghs toy plaisioy twra, den nomizw oti qetei kaneis. Oyte einai logiko na teqei ena tetoio qema, paramones ths eklogikhs diadikasias.

KAPPOS: Omws, den apekleise kosmo h palaistiniakh arxh - kai ekei phge o katalogos- den apekleise h iordanikh kybernhsh kai apokleioyn oi Israhlinoi. H erwthsh einai, an h kinhsh twn Israhlinwn kineitai sto plaisio ths kalhs diaqeshs, en pash periptwsei, apenanti sto Patriarxeio.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti ayth h diadikasia problepetai na akoloyqhqei gia na eklegei o neos Patriarxhs. Ayth h diadikasia akoloyqhqhke: Na doqei o katalogos stis arxes aytwn twn triwn kratwn h arxwn, prokeimenoy na diatypwsoyn th gnwmh toys. Apo ekei kai pera, emeis, me poly prosoxh, meletoyme ola ta stoixeia. Na eiste sigoyroi oti, opws mexri twra, qa kanoyme ayto poy antapokrinetai sto symferon toy Patriarxeioy. Alla, me tetoio tropo, o opoios sthn prajh qa deixnei oti sebomaste thn aytonomia ayths ths ekloghs diadikasias.

KAPPOS: Otan lete oti qa kanete o,ti prepei, yparxei periptwsh diabhmatos ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs;

REPPAS: Prepei na gnwrizete oti to Patriarxeio den einai yphresia toy ellhnikoy kratoys. Ayto epiballei ta oria, mesa sta opoia mporoyme na kinhqoyme oloi. Kai sas parakalw, an qelete pragmatika na bohqhsoyme to Patriarxeio, se ayth th strofh, na janabrei to dromo toy kai na synexisei th lamprh paradosh toy, prepei ola ayta ta qemata na ta xeirizomaste me poly megalh leptothta kai prosoxh.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Kapoioi apo toys Ierarxes poy kophkan apo ton katalogo, dhlwnoyn oti epikoinwnhsan gia na diamartyrhqoyn stis israhlines arxes kai apo ekei toys elegxqh oti yphrje parembash toy ellhnikoy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn. Endexomenws, na yparjei kapoia sxetikh anakoinwsh@

REPPAS: Apanthsa se sxetikh erwthsh toy k. Stamatopoyloy. H idia apanthsh isxyei kai gia sas.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Legetai oti yphrje parembash toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn gia na prowqhqoyn kapoioi arestoi sto Oikoymeniko Patriarxeio. Ayto toylaxiston dhlwnoyn ws kataggelia. Eseis pws ta sxoliazete ola ayta;

REPPAS: Den kanoyme kanena sxolio, giati ola ayta den antapokrinontai sthn alhqeia. H alhqeia ths politikhs mas, fainetai apo ta osa eipa kai apo ta osa exei kanei h ellhnikh kybernhsh gia na sthrijei to Patriarxeio Ierosolymwn sto rolo toy.

Sas eyxaristw.

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