Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-06-27

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 27 Ioynioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Gnwrizete oti einai se ejelijh h syskech ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia ta poly shmantika zhthmata poy aforoyn thn antimetwpish ths mastigas twn narkwtikwn kai toy alkoolismoy. Gia ta qemata ayta qa synedriasei ayrio to ypoyrgiko symboylio kai qa ginoyn ektetamenes anakoinwseis.

Sas ypenqymizw oti to apogeyma synedriazei to Ektelestiko Grafeio toy PASOK, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai Proedroy toy Kinhmatos, gia qemata poy aforoyn thn poreia toy PASOK pros to Synedrio, alla asfalws kai gia thn antimetwpish allwn trexontwn qematwn.

Prepei na ekfrasoyme thn ikanopoihsh mas gia thn ejelijh ths xqesinhs synedriashs toy Symboylioy Syndeshs, oson afora tis sxeseis E.E. - Toyrkias. Epanalambanontai kai epanabebaiwnontai basikes qeseis poy exei qespisei h E.E.. Einai fanero, oti oi ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis, to Kypriako, ta Anqrwpina Dikaiwmata apoteloyn basika stoixeia, h poreia twn opoiwn qa krinei kai thn ekbash twn eyrwtoyrkikwn sxesewn sto synolo toys. Einai idiaitera shmantiko na tonisoyme oti gia mia akomh fora epanalambanetai, epanabebaiwnetai h staqerh qesh ths E.E. pws h entajh ths Kyproy sthn E.E. aposyndeetai apo thn prospaqeia gia thn ejeyresh lyshs sto politiko problhma ths. Einai mia qesh thn opoia petyxame na prowqhsoyme kai yioqethse h E.E. sth Synodo Koryfhs toy Elsinki. H qesh ayth apotelei ena shmantiko ajona sto synolo twn eyrwtoyrkikwn sxesewn, kati poy einai poly shmantiko. Ayth h ejelijh pisteyoyme oti htan ejairetika qetikh.

Qelw, epishs, na sas enhmerwsw oti sth geitonia mas, sta Skopia, h krish den exei ektonwqei. O dieqnhs paragontas, to NATO, anamenei apo tis politikes dynameis toy kratoys na zhthsoyn th syndromh twn jenwn Organismwn, toy NATO idiaiterws. Den exei akomh diatypwqei ayto to aithma me tetoio tropo, wste na antapokriqei o dieqnhs Organismos. Emeis, se kaqe periptwsh, eimaste etoimoi na antapokriqoyme. Qa symmetasxoyme se mia tetoia apostolh, efoson telikws apofasistei.

Prepei na tonisw, omws, epeidh pragmatika h krish parateinetai, pws den yparxei logos anhsyxias gia th dikh mas xwra. Oi Enoples Dynameis ths xwras mas kai stis synoriakes perioxes paramenoyn sth synhqh katastash. Opws, epishs, den yparxei kapoio kyma prosfygwn poy epidiwkoyn na eiselqoyn sthn Ellada kai bebaiws den yparxei opoiodhpote sxetiko problhma. Oi diplwmatikes yphresies ths xwras mas paramenoyn sth geitonikh xwra. Ola kyloyn omala, oson afora th leitoyrgia twn diplwmatikwn yphresiwn mas sto geitoniko kratos. Apo ekei kai pera, bebaiws, o dieqnhs paragontas ki emeis symmetexontas stoys dieqneis Organismoys eimaste etoimoi na antapokriqoyme se opoiodhpote aithma diatypwsei to kratos ayto kai na symbaloyme etsi sthn ektonwsh, sthn oristikh antimetwpish ths krishs.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Mporei na ekfrasthke h emmonh ths E.E. sthn apofash toy Elsinki, oson afora to Kypriako, alla ofeiloyme na omologhsoyme oti o k. Tzem paremeine stis adiallaktes toyrkikes qeseis. Mporei na eipe oti yparxei mia prospaqeia gia epilysh toy Kypriakoy, alla emmenei stis idies qeseis tis opoies eixe mexri shmera. Den exei jefygei kaqoloy.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti h poreia proseggishs ths Toyrkias sthn E.E. qa krinetai basei sygkekrimenwn krithriwn. Basika, metajy twn allwn, einai kai ayta sta opoia anaferqhka. Ara, loipon, h Toyrkia den qa epityxei na proseggisei thn E.E. an prohgoymenws den antimetwpisei apotelesmatika ta problhmata se aytoys toys tomeis. Epanalambanw oti ayth einai mia poly kalh ejelijh. Yparxoyn sygkekrimenoi kanones, sygkekrimena krithria ta opoia prepei na threi h Toyrkia. Ajiologeitai basei aytwn twn kanonwn kai aytwn twn krithriwn h poreia ths pros thn E.E.. Alliws h poreia ayth den exei kamia prooptikh. Ayto einai jekaqaro kai to diamhnyei me kaqe tropo h E.E. pros thn Toyrkia.

BITSENTZOY: Se o,ti afora ta Skopia, epeidh eipate oti eiste etoimoi na antapokriqeite se opoio aithma ths skopianhs kybernhshs, den einai pia proypoqesh na katalhjei o politikos dialogos;

REPPAS: Asfalws, oi eswterikes diadikasies qa prepei na oloklhrwqoyn. Kai afoy oloklhrwqei, metajy twn allwn, kai o dialogos anamesa stis politikes dynameis qa apeyqynqei ayto to aithma pros to NATO. H paroysia NATOikwn dynamewn ekei qa exei to xarakthra, oxi ths symmetoxhs se polemikes energeies, alla to xarakthra ths parathrhshs, gia to pws ejelissontai ta pragmata, pws efarmozetai o afoplismos, pws threitai ayto to opoio apo prin prepei na exei symfwnhqei gia thn paysh twn exqroprajiwn. Emeis, epanalambanw, eimaste etoimoi na laboyme meros. Alla, bebaiws, den mporoyme na prosdiorisoyme ayth thn wra me akribeia thn hmeromhnia poy qa diatypwqei ayto to aithma, wste na yparxei h antidrash apo to NATO kai me th dikh mas symmetoxh.

GIANNISHS: Xqes to apogeyma, phgate sto Megaro Majimoy. Poio htan to antikeimeno ths synergasias, dedomenoy oti htan h deyterh synanthsh mesa sthn hmera;

REPPAS: Htan sto plaisio ths synhqoys taktikhs synergasias poy exei o Prwqypoyrgos me ta stelexh. Den einai dynaton, ayth h synergasia, kaqe fora, na ermhneyetai me tetoio tropo, wste na odhgoymaste se ena politiko parojysmo. Giati peri aytoy prokeitai. Qa moy epitrecete, ayth th synergasia poy o Prwqypoyrgos exei epilejei na exei me ypoyrgoys h alla kratika kai kommatika stelexh, na synexisei na thn exei, xwris na lambanei ypoch toy ean oi synergasies aytes ermhneyontai me tropo diaforetiko, se sxesh me to periexomeno toys apo ta MME h alloys tritoys paragontes. Den einai dynato na aixmalwtistei kai na perioristei ej aytoy toy logoy h drasthriothta toy Prwqypoyrgoy h twn politikwn genikws, epeidh kapoia drasthriothta yparxei periptwsh na parermhneytei. Alliws, qa peripesoyme se ena telma, se plhrh akinhsia. Ayto, omws, pisteyw oti den to qelei kaneis.

MPOYATAR: Qa hqela ena sxolio ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs gia to qema ths metaforas Milosebits sth Xagh.

REPPAS: To qema ayto to xeirizetai ypeyqyna h gioygkoslabikh kybernhsh. Parakoloyqoyme ki emeis ayth thn ejelijh, alla ton prwto, ton kaqoristiko logo, ton exei h kybernhsh ths filhs xwras. Gnwrizete poia qesh exei diatypwsei. Thn parakoloyqoyme me endiaferon, dhlwnontas, apo thn allh, oti bebaiws qa prepei na ginoyn sebastoi kai oi kanones me toys opoioys leitoyrgei to Dieqnes Dikasthrio.

MPOTWNHS: O Proedros ths N.D. ekane xqes logo gia paralytika fainomena sthn kybernhsh. Fantazomai oti to legei, logw ths perirreoysas politikhs atmosfairas poy yparxei kai sthn kybernhsh kai sto PASOK. Protiqetai o Prwqypoyrgos na analabei kapoies prwtoboylies, etsi wste na yparjei mia anastrofh, opws leme, toy klimatos;

REPPAS: Den fantazomai na perimenete th dhlwsh toy k. Karamanlh na th laboyme sobara ypoch. Giati o k. Karamanlhs gia opoio qema ki an milhsei, opoia dhlwsh ki an kanei, einai ek twn proterwn bebaio kai gnwsto oti qa strafei enantion ths kybernhshs. Ara, exei mikrh ajia, einai qa elega xwris ajiopistia, ayta poy leei o k. Karamanlhs. Polles fores einai pio xrhsimos, akomh kai sth dikh toy paratajh, otan den omilei, otan siwpa.

KAPPOS: Exw ypoch to sxolio poy kanate xqes gia thn prokhryjh ths ``17 Noembrh''. Sto metajy mesolabhse anakoinwsh toy State Department poy nai men arneitai, opws ki eseis, na anoijei dialogo me th ``17 Noembrh'', alla diaceydei orismena stoixeia ths prokhryjhs. Qelw na jerw an thn idia diaceysh einai se qesh na thn kanei kai h ellhnikh kybernhsh.

REPPAS: Emeis den exoyme kanena logo na sxoliasoyme to periexomeno ayths ths prokhryjhs mias tromokratikhs organwshs, giati katadikazoyme thn yparjh ths, agwnizomaste gia na ejaleicoyme thn yparjh ths.

KAPPOS: Egw anarwtiemai gia to ejhs: An o ellhnikos laos qa enhmerwnetai gia to ti symbainei, mono apo prokhryjeis h mono apo kapoia jena kentra. H ellhnikh kybernhsh, dhladh, den mporei na dwsei kapoies apanthseis se sxesh me ena gegonos, dhladh na jeroyme an exei ypoch ths h kybernhsh an htan probokatsia h htan xtyphma mias omadas enoplhs palhs, den jerw ki egw ti allo...

REPPAS: Apo thn prwth hmera exei kanei dhlwseis o armodios ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs. Anaferqhke sthn tromokratikh energeia. Th qesh ayth epanelaba ki egw. Ara, apanthsh ws pros ayto to qema doqhke. Kata ta alla, o ellhnikos laos enhmerwnetai plhrws apo ta MME, ta opoia pisteyw oti sth xwra mas, afeidws, parexoyn enhmerwsh gia ola ta qemata stoys polites.

SOYGLERHS: Gia mia akomh ebdomada oi giatroi toy IKA einai sto dromo, o kosmos talaipwreitai, ta Idrymata einai kleista. H kybernhsh, o k. Papadopoylos, synanthqhke me toys giatroys kai den breqhke lysh. Ti mellei genesqai; Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, prepei na pw oti einai paradojo na ekdhlwnetai mia apergiakh kinhtopoihsh gia to periexomeno enos nomosxedioy, to opoio den yparxei. H kybernhsh exei dhlwsei oti qa analabei sxetikh nomoqetikh prwtoboylia gia thn antimetwpish qematwn poy aforoyn thn prwtobaqmia ygeionomikh periqalch. Ayto to nomosxedio den exei labei oyte kan th morfh prosxedioy nomoy. Para tayta, exei proklhqei ayth h antidrash poy odhghse se apergiakes kinhtopoihseis. Pisteyoyme oti sto plaisio enos kalopistoy dialogoy mporei na syzhthqoyn ta synafh qemata, wste otan katartistei to nomosxedio na periexei diatajeis poy qa dinoyn ikanopoihtikes lyseis sto problhma poy apasxolei kai toys ergazomenoys sto IKA giatroys. Pisteyw oti oi epafes poy eixan me thn hgesia twn Ypoyrgeiwn Ygeias kai Ergasias, qa dwsoyn apotelesmata. An makrynei o xronos gia thn katartish aytoy toy nomosxedioy, tote ejetazoyme th dynatothta na antimetwpisoyme aytotelws to ergasiako qema twn giatrwn toy IKA. Ola ayta, qa prepei na ta synektimhsoyn oi giatroi kai bebaiws, me to baros ths eyqynhs poy exoyn, logw toy leitoyrghmatos toys, sthn epomenh syneleysh toys, meqayrio, pisteyw oti qa laboyn apofash na lysoyn thn apergiakh kinhtopoihsh toys.

SOYGLERHS: Yparxei kontra me to dioikhth toy IKA, opws afhnetai na planatai apo tis dhlwseis twn giatrwn, ths Panellhnias Omospondias Iatrwn toy IKA;

REPPAS: Den yparxei kontra, me thn ennoia poy to qetete eseis. Yparxei mia diaforetikh proseggish. O k. Nektarios einai enas petyxhmenos dioikhths, se ena megalo asfalistiko organismo. Oi giatroi qetoyn diafora qemata, ta opoia diekdikoyn na antimetwpistoyn pros orismenh kateyqynsh. Sas eipa oti mporei na yparjei dialogos, wste to nomosxedio poy qa katartistei gia ta qemata ayta, na periexei tis swstes ryqmiseis.

SOYGLERHS: Me ton Ypoyrgo Ygeias, yparxei kontra;

REPPAS: Den yparxei. Kaqenas exei to diko toy rolo. O ypoyrgos einai ypoyrgos. Den yparxei opoiodhpote pedio gia na anaptyxqei mia tetoia tribh.

KOTTAKHS: Gia to qema toy IKA: Exete perasei syntagmatikh diatajh poy apagoreyei th metatroph twn symbasewn orismenoy xronoy se aoristoy. Polloi giatroi toy IKA einai me symbaseis orismenoy xronoy kai qeloyn na ginoyn aoristoy. Pws qa lyqei, loipon, to problhma, otan yparxei tetoias morfhs syntagmatikh diatajh;

REPPAS: To shmeio ayto to anefera, apantwntas se erwthsh poy diatypwqhke gia to idio qema, thn prohgoymenh ebdomada. Anaferqhka s` ayto ton periorismo poy qetei to idio to Syntagma. Thn perasmenh ebdomada kaname sxetikh syzhthsh, alla den einai mono ayto to qema poy tiqetai.

KOTTAKHS: Qa apolyqoyn, dhladh, aytoi oi giatroi;

REPPAS: Den einai mono ayto to qema poy tiqetai sto plaisio ayths ths apergiakhs kinhtopoihshs. Alla, bebaiws, den mporei na agnohqei aytos o syntagmatikos periorismos. Apo thn allh, epanalambanw oti h kybernhsh einai diateqeimenh na syzhthsei me toys giatroys kai na epidiwxqei etsi -mesa apo ayto to dialogo kai th synergasia- h kalyterh ryqmish, h katartish dhladh toy pleon kaloy kai wfelimoy gia oloys -kai kyriws gia toys asfalismenoys toy IKA, aytoys dhladh poy exoyn anagkh aytwn twn yphresiwn ygeias- nomosxedioy.

SOYGLERHS: Omws, synanthsh thn prohgoymenh ebdomada metajy toy Ypoyrgoy Ygeias kai toy dioikhth toy IKA, toy k. Nektarioy, den eidame.

REPPAS: Sas lew, loipon, oti ayth h politikh ths kybernhshs apofasizetai sta kybernhtika organa. Exoyme apofasisei to geniko plaisio. Oi armodies yphresies ergazontai, wste na katartisoyn to sxetiko nomosxedio. Sthn poreia ayth gia thn katartish toy nomosxedioy, qeloyme th synergasia kai to dialogo kai me toys endiaferomenoys foreis. Kai kyriws me toys giatroys.

Sas eyxaristw.

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