Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-06-26

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 26 Ioynioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Qa moy epitrecete na sas enhmerwsw, symplhrwnontas to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia thn ebdomada ayth:

Ayth thn wra synergazetai me to Grammatea toy Organwtikoy toy PASOK M. Neonakh.

Ayrio, stis 13.30, qa dexqei to Grammatea ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs Kwsta Skandalidh.

Thn Paraskeyh, stis 10 to prwi, qa dexqei se synergasia to Dioikhth ths Trapezas ths Ellados Loyka Papadhmo.

Gia tis basikes drasthriothtes twn epomenwn hmerwn sas exw, hdh, enhmerwsei. Dhladh, gia th syskech poy ginetai ayrio, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy, sto Grafeio toy, me qema to opoio qa apotelesei kai antikeimeno syzhthshs kata th meqayrianh synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, thn antimetwpish, dhladh, ths koinwnikhs mastigas twn narkwtikwn kai toy alkoolismoy.

Epishs, sas exw enhmerwsei, oti ayrio stis 7 to apogeyma, qa synedriasei to Ektelestiko Grafeio toy PASOK gia thn antimetwpish twn trexontwn qematwn.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

BITALHS: Eipate oti o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei thn Paraskeyh synergasia me to Dioikhth ths Trapezas ths Ellados. To teleytaio diasthma yparxei mia katastash, oxi kai toso kalh sto xrhmatisthrio. Qa hqela na rwthsw, loipon, an apasxolei ton Prwqypoyrgo to qema toy Xrhmatisthrioy kai ths katastashs poy epikratei kai an skeftetai na analabei kapoies prwtoboylies gia na jeperastei ayto to kako klima stoys ependytes.

REPPAS: Den prokeitai na proboyme se opoiodhpote sxolio, to opoio mporei na eklhfqei kai ws parembash sta ths leitoyrgias toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Gnwrizete oti to Xrhmatisthrio exei aytonomh leitoyrgia, thn opoia ofeiloyme na sebastoyme.

PAPPA: Wstoso, k. Ekproswpe, h synexhs ptwsh toy Xrhmatisthrioy deixnei oti h agora proejoflei thn kybernhtikh abebaiothta. Pws to antimetwpizete ayto ws qema;

REPPAS: Exoyme pei oti h kybernhsh qa enteinei thn prospaqeia ths gia na prowqhsei to ergo poy ths empisteythke o ellhnikos laos. Oloi gnwrizoyn pws to Synedrio toy PASOK eprokeito na ginei to Martio toy 2002. H epispeysh toy Synedrioy isa-isa meiwnei ayth th xronikh apostash, h opoia einai kai politikh apostash. Dinei th dynatothta sthn kybernhsh na antimetwpisei yparkta problhmata, se syntomo xrono kai etsi, mesa apo thn organwsh toy Synedrioy, to PASOK na aposafhnisei tis epimeroys ptyxes ths politikhs toy kai me th systrateysh olwn twn stelexwn kai twn melwn toy na bohqhsei thn kybernhsh me akomh pio apotelesmatiko tropo na antapokriqei stis ypoxrewseis ths. Ara, loipon, den qa prepei na ginetai logos gia abebaiothta h gia reystothta. H kybernhsh enteinei thn prospaqeia ths, efarmozei to programma ths, exei sygkekrimeno kai dedomeno sxhma. Ta stelexh exoyn sygkekrimena kaqhkonta kai armodiothtes. Synexizoyme ayth thn prospaqeia mas.

KWSTANTHS: Epeidh edw kai dyo xronia miloysate kai milate, polles fores akomh, gia thn kalh poreia ths oikonomias, poy apodidei h kybernhsh to gegonos oti para ta kala apotelesmata poy lete eseis oti yparxoyn, to Xrhmatisthrio akoloyqei ayth thn ptwtikh poreia olo ayto to diasthma;

REPPAS: Einai adiamfisbhthto oti h poreia ths oikonomias einai kalh. Gnwrizete kala oti h Ellada exei shmantikes epityxies ta teleytaia xronia, idiaiterws ston tomea ayto. H ellhnikh oikonomia sygkatalegetai stis isxyroteres toy kosmoy. Prosfata, exoyn dhmosieytei sxetikes metrhseis kai stoixeia gia to poso exei beltiwqei h qesh ths xwras mas ston pagkosmio xarth. Kata ta alla, den prokeitai na poyme otidhpote, to opoio mporei na eklhfqei ws parembash sta toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Gnwrizete poly kala -ayto einai ena poly geniko sxolio, to opoio den prosqetei tipota sthn enhmerwsh sas, alla probainw se ayto to sxolio- oti h ellhnikh xrhmatagora exei anabaqmistei, exei katatagei stis wrimes agores. Ayto shmainei oti brisketai se mia metabatikh periodo. Polloi ependytes oi opoioi epilegoyn na ependyoyn stis legomenes anadyomenes agores, fainetai oti exoyn aposyrqei. Anamenetai h ekdhlwsh endiaferontos apo toys ependytes ekeinoys, oi opoioi epilegoyn na ependyoyn stis wrimes, tis anaptygmenes xrhmatagores. Sthn kathgoria aytwn twn xrhmatagorwn anhkei kai h ellhnikh xrhmatagora. Ayto einai kati to opoio gnwrizete poly kala, alla qa moy epitrecete na epanalabw me kathgorhmatiko tropo oti den prokeitai na poyme otidhpote poy mporei na qewrhqei ws parembash sta ths leitoyrgias toy Xrhmatisthrioy.

MIXAHL: Einai katanohth, toylaxiston apo mena, h apanthsh sas, alla qa epimeinw sto erwthma. Akoyme teleytaia se polla radiofwna, dhlwseis paragontwn ths xrhmatagoras, xrhmatistwn, stelexwn toy Xrhmatisthrioy, poy lene eyqews oti prepei h kybernhsh na kanei kati, na allajei politikh, na allajei proswpa. Prwton, h apanthsh sas, loipon, apeyqynetai kai se aytoys; Kai deyteron, ektimate ws kybernhsh oti h ptwsh toy Xrhmatisthrioy endexetai na einai texnhth kai na xrhsimopoieitai ws meso pieshs, wste na sas "epiblhqoyn" nees politikes;

REPPAS: Kaqenas, bebaiws, einai eleyqeros na diatypwnei tis apoceis toy. Apo thn allh, omws, nomizw oti den einai h orqh proseggish twn pragmatwn otan kaqenas diatypwnei symboyles gia to ti prepei na kanei kapoios allos. Otan, dhladh, oi xrhmatistes proteinoyn sthn kybernhsh ti prepei na kanei h h kybernhsh ypodeiknyei stoys xrhmatistes ti prepei na kanoyn ekeinoi gia na bohqhsoyn sta toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Ayto to opoio prepei na kanei h kybernhsh einai na askei mia oikonomikh politikh poy na bohqa thn peraiterw anaptyjh ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Mia oikonomikh politikh poy na diasfalizei th dhmosionomikh staqerothta. Mia oikonomikh politikh poy na bohqa thn Ellada na proodeyei. H kybernhsh to kanei ayto. Antapokrinetai se ayth thn ypoxrewsh ths. Apo ekei kai pera, einai poly pio synqeta tetoioy eidoys qemata, opws ayto poy afora th leitoyrgia toy Xrhmatisthrioy.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Pws sxoliazei o Prwqypoyrgos ola ayta poy akoygontai, oxi mono apo dhmosiografoys, alla kai apo melh ths kybernhshs kai stelexh toy PASOK, oti h kybernhsh einai ypo proqesmia, me dedomeno oti exei pei se kommatiko organo oti meta to Synedrio qa kanei anasxhmatismo.

REPPAS: H kybernhsh einai kybernhsh toy PASOK kai kineitai sto plaisio ths laikhs entolhs poy elabe stis ekloges toy Aprilioy toy 2000. Ayto den allazei mexri to telos ths 4etias. Apo ekei kai pera, to PASOK ofeilei na prosferei sthn ellhnikh koinwnia thn kalyterh dynath kybernhsh. Kalyterh kybernhsh, shmainei aposafhnish twn politikwn, opoy prepei na aposafhnistoyn ptyxes ths politikhs mas kai ayto qa ginei mesw toy Synedrioy. Kalyterh kybernhsh, shmainei sthrijh apo olo to dynamiko ths eklogikhs bashs kai ta stelexh toy kommatos mas, prokeimenoy h kybernhsh na ferei se peras to dyskolo ergo ths. Ayto akribws pisteyoyme oti qa apotelesei th shmantikh symbolh toy Synedrioy, pragma to opoio afora oloys toys polites.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Ayth h kybernhsh poy einai twra, mexri to Synedrio, den einai h kalyterh kybernhsh;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh synexizei kai askei ta kaqhkonta ths. Einai mia kalh kybernhsh kai apodidei ergo. To ergo ayto -kai twn stelexwn, afoy exoyn kai thn kommatikh idiothta- krinetai kai ana pasa stigmh kai apo to swma twn Synedrwn. O Prwqypoyrgos einai aytos poy exei thn armodiothta kai aytos, kaqe fora, prepei na afeqei aperispastos na kanei tis epiloges toy, oson afora th synqesh toy kybernhtikoy sxhmatos. Gnwrizete oti sto plaisio mias 4etoys qhteias ths kybernhshs ginontai oi allages ekeines poy o Prwqypoyrgos qewrei oti einai epibeblhmeno na ginoyn. Ayth thn wra, loipon, opws kat` epanalhch, apantwntas se erwthseis, exw pei, tetoio qema allaghs toy kybernhtikoy sxhmatos den tiqetai. To qema ayto exei kleisei.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Shmera, sthn "Eleyqerotypia", dhmosieyetai prokhryjh ths 17N sthn opoia grafetai oti oydepote meteixe sto xtyphma kata toy Mixaloliakoy kai oti htan probokatsia gia na perasei o tromonomos. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

REPPAS: To bebaio einai oti ekdhlwqhke mia tromokratikh energeia. Gia thn tromokratikh ayth energeia ginetai proanakrish apo thn Ellhnikh Astynomia, tis armodies yphresies ths, ypo thn epopteia toy armodioy Eisaggelea. To metwpo kata ths tromokratias einai koino, einai metwpo olwn mas. H palh mas einai synexhs gia na ejaleicoyme ayth th mastiga poy exei dieqnh xarakthra, alla eggizei kai thn ellhnikh koinwnia. Oi prospaqeies, loipon, gia thn ejixniash ayths ths tromokratikhs prajhs synexizontai. Apo ekei kai pera, den einai dynato -to antilambaneste ayto- na anoijoyme opoiondhpote politiko dialogo me mia tromokratikh organwsh. H prospaqeia mas gia thn ejaleich ths tromokratias einai dedomenh. Gia to skopo ayto, oi armodies yphresies ths xwras mas synexizoyn tis prospaqeies toys kai synergazontai me antistoixes yphresies kai allwn xwrwn.

GARGALAKOS: Apokleiete kathgorhmatika to endexomeno na odhghqei katanagkastika o Prwqypoyrgos se anasxhmatismo se prosynedriako xrono;

REPPAS: Den einai dynato na miloyme gia katanagkasmo poy epiballetai ston Prwqypoyrgo. O Prwqypoyrgos exei thn entolh apo toys Ellhnes polites. Metajy twn allwn, askei kai ayth thn armodiothta, na sygkrotei dhladh to kybernhtiko sxhma. Qema anasxhmatismoy den tiqetai kai ayto einai jekaqaro. To qema ayto exei kleisei. Kaqenas, bebaiws, leei tis apoceis toy eleyqera, alla otan kapoioi qetoyn kai janaqetoyn ayto to qema mesw erwthsewn -giati to syzhtoyme peripoy kaqe mera ayto to qema- den kanoyn tipote allo, para ej antikeimenoy na symballoyn sth synthrhsh mias reystothtas, me apotelesma, enw apo thn poreia twn pragmatwn diaceydontai stis ektimhseis kai tis probleceis toys, aytoi na epimenoyn kai na epibarynoyn etsi to politiko klima. Den antilambanomai giati prepei na monopwlei to endiaferon h megalo meros ths syzhthshs mas ayto to qema se kaqhmerinh bash.

GARGALAKOS: Epeidh exei megalh shmasia to an h kybernhsh dinei mhnyma -kai sthn koinwnia kai sthn agora- kybernhtikhs staqerothtas h oxi, exei diatypwqei h apoch oti ean o Prwqypoyrgos sto Synedrio htthqei apenanti sta leyka chfodeltia, qa odhghsei endexomenws th xwra se prowres ekloges. Isxyei ayto to senario h oxi; Kai to qetw, giati exei na kanei me th staqerothta ths diakybernhshs h oxi.

REPPAS: Qelete na metatrapoyme se analytes h sxoliastes twn apotelesmatwn enos Synedrioy poy qa ginei se tesseris-pente mhnes apo shmera. Sas lew oti den tiqetai qema tetoiwn ejelijewn poy qa odhghsoyn sto na mhn antapokriqei h kybernhsh sthn entolh poy exei apo ton ellhniko lao. H kybernhsh exei entolh 4etias kai ayto to gnwrizete. Apo ekei kai pera, pisteyw oti to Synedrio qa einai ena Synedrio enothtas, syspeirwshs olwn twn dynamewn toy PASOK. Qa einai ena Synedrio poy qa shmanei thn arxh mias neas poreias, mias nikhforas prooptikhs gia thn kybernhsh. Kai bebaiws, sthn poreia ayth qa einai epikefalhs o Kwstas Shmiths.

KOYTANTOY: Hqela na rwthsw, ti metra exei parei h kybernhsh gia thn enisxysh twn synorwn mas me ta Skopia, meta tis prosfates taraxes.

REPPAS: Pragmati, h krish sto geitoniko kratos parateinetai kai thn parakoloyqoyme me endiaferon. Gnwrizete oti o dieqnhs paragontas, mesw apestalmenwn toy, prospaqei na odhghsei se mia synqesh twn apocewn, se mia synergasia twn politikwn dynamewn sto geitoniko kratos, wste etsi na ejeyreqei lysh kai sth synexeia dieqneis Organismoi, opws to NATO, na aposteiloyn ekei dynameis oi opoies, sto plaisio mias eirhneytikhs apostolhs, qa epityxoyn ton plhrh afoplismo twn dynamewn poy mexri shmera droyn ataktws. Den yparxei kanena stoixeio poy na odhgei tis Enoples Dynameis ths xwras mas na briskontai se ayjhmeno baqmo etoimothtas. Oi Enoples Dynameis ths xwras mas paramenoyn sth synhqh katastash, akomh kai stis synoriakes perioxes. Ayto shmainei oti h krish sto geitoniko kratos den mas ephreazei se tetoio baqmo, wste na prokaleitai anhsyxia, toylaxiston etsi opws exoyn ta pragmata shmera. Pisteyoyme oti h krish ayth qa ektonwqei, qa antimetwpistei.

FILHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean h ellhnikh kybernhsh kai oi arxes exoyn dexqei aithma apo thn italikh pleyra na gnwstopoihsoyn katalogo Ellhnwn politwn, oi opoioi prokeitai na tajideysoyn gia na paroyn meros sthn eyrwpaikh sygkentrwsh sth Genoba kai an exei perielqei se gnwsh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs h plhroforia oti h italikh kybernhsh protiqetai na anasteilei, kata th diarkeia aytwn twn kinhtopoihsewn thn efarmogh ths Synqhkhs toy Sengken, sto shmeio ekeino poy afora to synoriako elegxo twn Eyrwpaiwn politwn.

REPPAS: Exw apanthsei gia to qema, thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, se sxetikh erwthsh toy synadelfoy sas k. Kapoy. Den exw na prosqesw tipota allo. Paramenw se ayth thn apanthsh.

FILHS: Epeidh exw diabasei thn apanthsh sas, ekei, apanthsate genika. Egw sas rwtw sygkekrimena: Ean h italikh kybernhsh kai oi yphresies exoyn elqei se epikoinwnia gia toys logoys poy proanefera, me tis ellhnikes arxes kai ti apanta h ellhnikh pleyra.

REPPAS: Den pisteyoyme oti mia xwra poy anhkei sth Synqhkh toy Sengken, mporei, kata periptwsh, na efarmozei h na mhn efarmozei ayth th Synqhkh. Gnwrizete, allwste, oti to qema ayto exei prokycei, meta thn protash, thn eishghsh poy ekane o Ellhnas ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, gia thn episkech Toyrkwn politwn sta ellhnika nhsia, me mia ejairetikh diadikasia. Oi armodies yphresies, omws, poy parakoloyqoyn thn efarmogh ths Synqhkhs Sengken, exoyn dwsei arnhtikh qesh. Kai h arnhtikh qesh isxyei gia oles tis periptwseis.

MOYRTZHS: Eipate prohgoymenws ``afhste ton Prwqypoyrgo aperispasto na kanei tis allages poy einai epibeblhmeno na ginoyn''. Anafereste se ejwqesmikoys h qesmikoys paragontes;

REPPAS: Exw pei, kat` epanalhch, oti qemata poy empiptoyn sthn apokleistikh armodiothta toy Prwqypoyrgoy, den prepei na apasxoloyn alloys.

FILHS: Ayrio yparxei h syskech gia to qema twn narkwtikwn ypo ton Prwqypoyrgo. Hqela na rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh antimetwpizei qema nomoqetikwn allagwn.

REPPAS: Exw apanthsei se sxetikh erwthsh gia to qema ayto. Paramenoyme sto isxyon nomiko kai qesmiko plaisio.

FILHS: Eseis apanthsate, alla yparxoyn, sto metajy, epishmes topoqethseis, opws einai ayth toy k. Paraskeyopoyloy, Proedroy toy KEQEA, opws epishs ypoyrgwn -toy k. Papandreoy shmera- poy anaferontai sta zhthmata ayta. Eseis apanthsate pro ebdomadas. Fantazomai oti lambanete ypoch sas to dhmosio dialogo gia to qema ayto.

REPPAS: Parakoloyqoyme tis apoceis twn paragontwn stoys opoioys anaferqhkate, epeidh einai endiaferoyses. Omws, den diatypwnontai twra gia prwth fora. Htan gnwstes kai thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, otan edwsa kai thn apanthsh.

FILHS: Ma, o Proedros toy KEQEA proxqes th diatypwse...

REPPAS: Htan gnwstes oi apoceis aytes, oi opoies exoyn diatypwqei apo polloys paragontes sth sygkekrimenh kateyqynsh gia thn antimetwpish aytoy toy qematos. Ara, loipon, den einai kainoyrgio to qema poy qetete.

PAPPA: Eipate oti ``h poreia ths oikonomias einai kalh''. Wstoso, den antanakla kai sto Xrhmatisthrio. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, ean qewreite oti h krish poy paroysiazei twra h agora, ofeiletai kai sthn prosfath rhjh ths kybernhshs me ton SEB.

REPPAS: Qa moy epitrecete na mhn kanw kanena sxolio gia th leitoyrgia toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Giati, ean kapoios mpei se ayth th syzhthsh, kai malista me tetoies leptomereies, einai san na syzhtoyme to qema ths leitoyrgias toy Xrhmatisthrioy. H kybernhsh den mporei na mpei se enan tetoio dialogo gia to Xrhmatisthrio.

Sas eyxaristw.

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