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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 22 Ioynioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Prin arxisoyme thn kaqhmerinh mas enhmerwsh, qa moy epitrecete na kanw mia epishmansh: Otan ypoballete tis erwthseis sas qa prepei na throyme kapoioys kanones, wste ta legomena sas na apotypwnontai sto magnhtofwno eykrinws kai na einai dynath h swsth apomagnhtofwnhsh apo thn yphresia toy Ypoyrgeioy. To epishmainw, dioti xqes adikhqhke o k. Antypas. Toy apodoqhke mia frash thn opoia ws fainetai den eipe. Einai ena fainomeno, to opoio den prepei na epanalhfqei. Tonizw oti den yparxei pote proqesh, alla qa hqela na zhthsw sto mellon o diadikastikos tropos syzhthshs na einai tetoios, wste na mh dhmioyrgoyntai problhmata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati den topoqetoyntai mikrofwna kai stoys dhmosiografoys, wste ta magnhtofwna na "grafoyn" kaqara tis erwthseis; Einai xronio to problhma.

REPPAS: An milate dynata kai kaqara kai den yparxoyn paremboles allwn synadelfwn thn wra ths erwthshs den yparxei problhma. Pantws, den exw antirrhsh. Hdh, exei analhfqei sxetikh prwtoboylia.

Opws gnwrizete, shmera synedriase h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Sthn eisagwgikh toy omilia o Prwqypoyrgos anaferqhke sth xqesinh synedriash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy. Sas einai gnwsth h apofash toy E.G. gia thn organwsh toy Synedrioy toy PASOK, to prwto 15nqhmero toy Oktwbrioy.

Opws eipe xarakthristika o Prwqypoyrgos, ta politika qemata syzhthqhkan ejantlhtika xqes kai den epanhlqe se ayta. Aplws, ekane ena sxolio oti epeidh diatypwnontai diafores kritikes epishmanseis gia to an h kybernhsh olh ayth thn periodo mexri to Synedrio qa mporesei na asxolhqei me ta kaqhkonta ths, wste na apodwsei ergo, prepei na poyme pws, pragmati, h kybernhsh qa enteinei thn prospaqeia ths, giati anaferetai sto lao, stoys polites kai ta problhmata toys. Den anaferetai sto komma. Den exei eswstrefh leitoyrgia.

Xarakthristika, o Prwqypoyrgos eipe oti kaqws qa proxwroyn oi diadikasies sto komma gia to Synedrio, h kybernhsh kai ola ta stelexh qa enteinoyn thn prospaqeia toys gia na apodwsoyme kalytero ergo. Ayto, se teleytaia analysh, apotelei thn kalyterh apodeijh oti h kybernhsh mas kai to komma mas einai zwntana kommatia ths koinwnias mas. To Synedrio mas einai mia zwntanh koinwnikh diergasia, den einai mono kommatikh diadikasia. Me ayth thn ennoia, loipon, tetoioy eidoys aitiaseis den qa prepei na diatypwnontai.

Sth synexeia, o Prwqypoyrgos ekane mia syntomh anafora sta apotelesmata ths Synodoy Koryfhs ths E.E., sto Gketemporgk. Epishmane oti qa prepei, logw ths katastashs poy epikratei sthn eyryterh perioxh, na parameinoyme oi prwtagwnistes twn ejelijewn kai na anaptyjoyme akomh perissotero tis sxeseis mas me tis xwres kai tis kybernhseis toys poy diadramatizoyn ena rolo sthn perioxh.

Epishs, anaferqhke sto programma poy exei h kybernhsh kai eidikotera ston programmatismo ths gia th qerinh periodo. Eipe oti qa prepei na proetoimastoyme me poly sygkrothmeno tropo -en ocei ths Dieqnoys Ekqeshs Qessalonikhs (DEQ), opoy opws eiqistai, kaqe xrono, o Prwqypoyrgos probainei se sygkekrimenes anakoinwseis. Sto plaisio ths DEQ h kybernhsh qa prepei na anaferei to programma ths se xroniko orizonta tetraetias, mexri to 2004. Qa prepei poly sygkekrimena na anaferoyme toys stoxoys mas, oi opoioi qa prepei na exoyn metrhqei, wste na gnwrizoyme ti kostos exoyn, to xronodiagramma toys, wste mexri to telos toy 2003 na exoyn epiteyxqei.

H anafora toy prwqypoyrgoy sxetizetai me to dhmosionomiko programma trietias poy exoyme apofasisei se prohgoymenes synedriaseis kybernhtikwn organwn. Gnwrizoyme shmera, opws eipe xarakthristika, poies einai oi dapanes poy prepei na kanoyme thn epomenh periodo, wste to dhmosionomiko programma mas na parameinei ajiopisto. Opws kaqe xrono -etsi qa ginei kai ton erxomeno Oktwbrio-Noembrio- kataqetoyme epikairopoihmeno to programma staqerothtas kai anaptyjhs, opws exoyme ypoxrewsh sto plaisio ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Prepei na petyxoyme toys stoxoys aytoys. Einai jekaqarismeno pleon to dhmosionomiko topio mexri to 2004. Ayto eipwqhke xarakthristika. Gnwrizoyme poies einai oi dapanes poy prepei na kanoyme se diaforoys tomeis. Gnwrizoyme poio einai to kostos ths diorganwshs twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn. Ola ayta, pleon, exoyn parei thn telikh morfh toys.

Oson afora thn atzenta ths amesws epomenhs periodoy, o Prwqypoyrgos eishghqhke -kai egine dekto- na syzhthsoyme thn epomenh ebdomada sth synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy ena shmantiko koinwniko zhthma, opws ayto twn narkwtikwn kai toy alkoolismoy. H kybernhsh exei labei seira prwtoboyliwn. Qa prepei na ektimhsoyme thn katastash, opws exei diamorfwqei shmera, kai na proxwrhsoyme sth beltiwsh ths politikhs, opoy ayto xreiazetai na ginei, gia na paroysiasoyme sygkekrimena apotelesmata.

Ena allo qema to opoio, epishs, qa apotelesei antikeimeno syzhthshs se epomenh synedriash kybernhtikwn organwn einai ayto poy afora to periballon, tis allages poy parathroyntai stis klimatikes synqhkes kai ta genetikws tropopoihmena proionta poy xrhsimopoioyme.

Peri ta mesa toy mhnos Ioylioy qa apasxolhsei thn kybernhsh to qema poy afora to G@ KPS. Qa exoyn sygkrothqei epitropes parakoloyqhshs kai diaxeirishs twn diaforwn ergwn. Kapoia erga poy einai wrima pros entajh qa entaxqoyn sto G@ KPS, wste na ajiopoihsoyme to synolo twn porwn poy exoyme sth diaqesh mas apo thn E.E..

O Prwqypoyrgos ekane mia syntomh anafora sta qemata poy aforoyn th leitoyrgia twn yphresiwn toy Dhmosioy kai ths Topikhs kai Nomarxiakhs Aytodioikhshs. Eipwqhke, xarakthristika, oti me tis diadikasies elegxoy poy akoloyqoyntai, anadeiknyontai bebaiws ta problhmata kai epiballontai poines. Tonisthke xarakthristika oti ta dyo teleytaia xronia 102 stelexh exoyn odhghqei se apolysh. Oloklhrwnetai h diadikasia elegxoy kai gia dieyqyntika stelexh poy qa ypostoyn kai ayta kyrwseis, efoson diapistwqei oti exoyn eyqynes se qemata poy aforoyn kakodioikhsh kai diafqora sto Dhmosio kai toys organismoys aytodioikhshs.

Oson afora to qema twn proslhcewn, ta armodia ypoyrgeia exoyn katalhjei. Qa mas apasxolhsei kai ayto to qema poly sygkekrimena thn epomenh periodo.

Egine anafora kai se qemata epikairothtas, opws h apergia twn iatrwn toy IKA. Eipwqhke, xarakthristika, oti yparxei sygkekrimenh syntagmatikh diatajh poy den epitrepei thn ikanopoihsh enos aithmatos poy sxetizetai me th monimopoihsh twn iatrwn poy ergazontai sto IKA.

To megalytero meros ths synedriashs htan ayto poy afora th leitoyrgia twn armodiwn yphresiwn th qerinh periodo gia thn antimetwpish diaforwn problhmatwn, eite ayta exoyn sxesh me thn ekdhlwsh pyrkagiwn, eite me th diakinhsh politwn se diafores perioxes ths xwras, idiaiterws tis nhsiwtikes kai th leitoyrgia twn aktoploikwn yphresiwn.

O k. Xrysoxoidhs milhse me seira stoixeiwn gia tis draseis poy exoyn analhfqei apo tis yphresies toy Ypoyrgeioy Dhmosias Tajhs kai kyriws apo thn EL.AS. kai thn Pyrosbestikh Yphresia. Xarakthristika eipe oti exei lhfqei pronoia, wste na eimaste etoimoi na antimetwpisoyme kaqe endexomeno. Opws tonise, problepetai oti kata to prwto 10hmero toy Ioylioy oi kairikes synqhkes qa einai "dyskoles", afoy anamenetai ena cyxro reyma kai einai piqano na exoyme anemoys megalhs entashs, enw qa exoyme ychles qermokrasies. Ayto shmainei oti qa prepei oloi na symbaloyn, kyriws oi organismoi Topikhs Aytodioikhshs, alla kai oi idiwtes poy qa prepei na kaqarizoyn toylaxiston toys xwroys poy toys anhkoyn, gia na mh dhmioyrgoyntai proypoqeseis anaflejhs, wste na antimetwpisoyme kaqe endexomeno kindyno.

O k. Xrysoxoidhs, anefere epishs oti oi kairikes synqhkes mexri twra exoyn symbalei kai aytes -opws bebaiws kai h drasthriothta twn armodiwn yphresiwn- sth meiwsh twn pyrkagiwn, kata meso oro, poy ekdhlwqhkan se hmerhsia bash. Se sygkrish me to parelqon o ariqmos aytos exei meiwqei aisqhta. Perysi eixan ekdhlwqei kata meso oro 23 pyrkagies thn hmera, enw fetos 17 pyrkagies thn hmera mexri twra.

Sth synexeia, o Ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs anaferqhke se qemata poy aforoyn thn poiothta zwhs twn politwn, opws ayto ths hxorypanshs poy enteinetai idiaitera th qerinh periodo. Eipe oti oi yphresies ths Astynomias proxwroyn se elegxoys poy mexri twra ekanan monon oi yphresies toy Ygeionomikoy, giati monon aytes dieqetan ton aparaithto ejoplismo, ton opoio diaqetei pleon kai h Astynomia. Ayto exei epitrapei, me bash ena neo nomiko plaisio poy exoyme chfisei kai dinei th dynatothta, basei aytwn twn elegxwn, na "sfragizontai", opws leme xarakthristika, magazia. Ayto, hdh, exei ginei se ena megalo baqmo.

Milhse, epishs, gia ta problhmata poy antimetwpizei h Troxaia, idiaiterws kata toys qerinoys mhnes. Eipe xarakthristika oti efarmozontai polla pilotika programmata stoys kentrikoys odikoys ajones, idiws se shmeia poy yparxoyn problhmata kata th metakinhsh twn paraqeristwn, idiaiterws problhmata staqmeyshs, opoy yparxei systhmatikos elegxos me shmantika apotelesmata.

O k. Papoytshs anaferqhke sta qemata ths aktoploias kai stoys elegxoys poy ginontai sta limania, alla kai mesa sta ploia, gia thn asfaleia toys. Pragmatika, fetos, o stolos einai se poly kalytero epipedo, opws xarakthristika eipe o ypoyrgos, se sxesh me to parelqon. Qa ejyphrethqoyn poly pio ikanopoihtika oi nhsiwtikes kyriws perioxes ths xwras kai oi tajidiwtes poy qa tajidecoyn se aytes. Bebaiws, o elegxos aytos afora kai thn poiothta twn prosferomenwn yphresiwn mesa sta ploia, apo armodioys yphresiakoys paragontes, poy den einai ek twn proterwn gnwstoi. Epibibazontai sta ploia kai kata th diarkeia twn plown elegxoyn toso thn asfaleia twn ploiwn, oso kai ton tropo me ton opoio prosferontai diafores yphresies stoys polites.

Anaferqhke sthn entash twn prospaqeiwn gia ton elegxo kai ton periorismo toy laqro-metanasteytikoy kymatos poy enteinetai to kalokairi kai sto qema ths antimetwpishs twn kindynwn stis diafores aktes gia toys loyomenoys apo taxyploa skafh kai alles drasthriothtes. Ola ayta, exoyn sxesh me th leitoyrgia toy Limenikoy Swmatos, poy apofasisthke na enisxyqei kai na employtistei akomh.

Ayth htan se genikes grammes h syzhthsh. Alloi ypoyrgoi poy phran to logo, anaferqhkan se poly genikes grammes sta qemata ayta. Den qa sas koyrasw me leptomereies. Aplws, prosqetw oti prin apo th synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, thn erxomenh ebdomada, o Prwqypoyrgos qa proedreysei se syskech armodiwn twn diaforwn ypoyrgeiwn poy emplekontai sta qemata twn narkwtikwn kai toy alkoolismoy, poy, opws sas eipa, qa apasxolhsoyn to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KAPPOS: Sto epomeno Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, poy qa syzhthsete gia ta narkwtika kai ton alkoolismo, yparxei periptwsh allaghs toy nomoqetikoy plaisioy se o,ti afora th xrhsh twn malakwn narkwtikwn;

REPPAS: H politikh poy exoyme ston tomea ayto, oson afora to qesmiko plaisio ths, einai dedomenh kai gnwsth. Ayto to opoio qa syzhthsoyme, afora tis prwtoboylies poy exoyme parei mexri twra, mesw diaforwn yphresiwn kai ypoyrgeiwn. Qa ektimhsoyme ta apotelesmata aytwn twn prwtoboyliwn kai qa doyme ti prepei na ginei akomh, prokeimenoy na beltiwsoyme ayta ta apotelesmata. Den antimetwpizoyme allo qema opoiasdhpote nomoqetikhs prwtoboylias sthn kateyqynsh ayth.

KAPPOS: Xqes, meta to Ektelestiko Grafeio, o Prwqypoyrgos se mia apo tis dramatikoteres apostrofes poy toylaxiston exw akoysei egw, oysiastika milhse gia krish politikhs nomimopoihshs toy PASOK. Anarwtiemai, katopin aytoy, me mia nomimopoihsh to PASOK kai gia thn akribeia h kybernhsh -giati gia krish politikhs nomimopoihshs sthn kybernhsh anaferqhke- qa proxwrhsei se metarryqmiseis kai se diafores politikes epiloges kai malista se krisimoys tomeis;

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, o Prwqypoyrgos den eipe oti h kybernhsh den exei politikh nomimopoihsh. Eipe oti amfisbhteitai apo kapoioys h politikh nomimopoihsh ths kybernhshs. Qa moy epitrecete na prosqesw se ayto, poy einai poly orqo, oti h kybernhsh exei syntagmatikh kai dhmokratikh nomimopoihsh. Gi` ayto synexizei na kyberna, exei entolh 4etias. Kai o Prwqypoyrgos eipe xarakthristika oti oi ekloges qa ginoyn to 2004. Kata ta alla, h epilogh ayth, symfwna me thn apofash toy E. G., afora bebaia to komma, alla -epanalambanw- den einai mia stena kommatikh diadikasia. Einai mia koinwnikh leitoyrgia, mia koinwnikh diergasia. Ayto einai poly shmantiko, giati h kybernhsh kai to komma mas einai kommatia ths ellhnikhs koinwnias. Kai bebaiws, h prospaqeia poy kanei h kybernhsh mas qa anadeijei, akomh perissotero, thn ajia toy Synedrioy. Opws kai to Synedrio, me tis apofaseis poy qa labei, qa enisxysei akomh perissotero thn kybernhsh, prokeimenoy na proxwrhsei kai na oloklhrwsei to ergo ths, mexri to telos ths qhteias ths.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Xqes, o Prwqypoyrgos sto E.G. ypebale thn paraithsh toy sta melh toy E.G. Mhpws qa thn ypobalei kai ston Proedro ths Dhmokratias;

REPPAS: Exete poly megalh fantasia. Qa sas kaloysa apo to politiko reportaz na metaphdhsete sth myqistoriografia!

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ypebale h den ypebale;

REPPAS: Den sas apanthsa; Allh erwthsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayta ta opoia -giati akoysthkan me sklhres lejeis, milhsan se sklhrh glwssa- ...

REPPAS: Symmetexete sto E.G. toy PASOK; Milate me tetoio kathgorhmatiko kai bebaio tropo...!

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den diabasate shmera tis efhmerides h ta bgalane oi dhmosiografoi apo to myalo toys pali;

REPPAS: Sas parakalw, kante mia erwthsh, xwris na kanete ayth thn eisagwgh, h opoia deixnei oti symmerizeste mia orismenh ekdoxh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw lew ti grafetai stis efhmerides kai qelw epibebaiwsh. Nai h oxi;

REPPAS: Sas lew, loipon, oti h synedriash toy E.G., h opoia den prepei na mas apasxolei sto plaisio ths politikhs enhmerwshs, htan synedriash enos kommatikoy Organoy. Gnwrizete poia einai h dhlwsh poy ekane o Prwqypoyrgos kai poia h apofash. H apofash toy E.G. htan omofwnh gia thn organwsh toy Synedrioy, to prwto 15nqhmero toy erxomenoy Oktwbrioy. Kai mono oti h apofash toy E.G. einai omofwnh, dinei apanthsh se tetoioy eidoys erwthseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den htan omofwnh h apofash toy E.G.

REPPAS: Jerete kati parapanw apo ta melh toy E.G.;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Jerw oti den htan omofwnh.

REPPAS: Sas lew, loipon, oti ayto poy gnwrizete den antapokrinetai sta pragmata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati o Prwqypoyrgos den paei sthn Kina; Mhpws kai ayto einai sth fantasia moy;

REPPAS: Oxi. Ayto einai sthn pragmatikothta. Sth fantasia sas einai o logos gia ton opoio nomizete oti den paei sthn Kina. Einai allo to ena kai allo to allo. Opws kai to periexomeno ths synedriashs toy E.G. einai diaforetiko apo ayto to opoio eseis fantazeste. Apo ekei kai pera, pragmati elhfqh ayth h apofash. Egine synennohsh me tis diplwmatikes arxes ths megalhs kai filhs xwras. Prepei na sas pw -kai ayto nomizw einai endeiktiko toy klimatos twn sxesewn metajy twn dyo xwrwn- oti oi yphresies toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn ths Kinas apanthsan oti sebontai kai katanooyn toys logoys gia thn anabolh ayths ths episkechs kai pantws, o Prwqypoyrgos einai kalodexoymenos na pragmatopoihsei ayth thn episkech sto eggys mellon. Anaferqhkan, epishs, sto kalo epipedo twn dimerwn sxesewn kai ekdhlwsan kai pali to endiaferon toys na diathrhqei ayto to ychlo epipedo kalwn sxesewn kai na beltiwqei akomh perissotero, me koinh prospaqeia twn dyo xwrwn. H apofash toy Prwqypoyrgoy, loipon, den odhgei se opoiadhpote diatarajh kai epibarynsh twn sxesewn. Ayto prepei na to jekaqarisw kai na to tonisw ek meroys ths kybernhshs, giati einai poly shmantiko. Epiqymoyme tis aristes dynates sxeseis me th megalh ayth xwra. Qa synexisoyme na kinoymaste se ayth thn kateyqynsh. H apofash ayth elhfqh kai prokeitai na synedriasei to E.G. thn epomenh Tetarth. O Prwqypoyrgos qelei na parameinei edw, afenos gia na apofygei ta opoia sxolia poy apo kapoioys kakopistoys -kai prepei na to paradexqeite ayto- qa diatypwnontan, oti dhladh enw to E.G. pairnei mia shmantikh apofash, o Prwqypoyrgos tajideyei sthn Kina kai afeteroy, epeidh o Prwqypoyrgos qewrhse oti eprepe na einai edw ayth thn periodo, mias kai o xronos mexri to Synedrio den einai arketos, wste o idios epikefalhs ayths ths prospaqeias na kaqodhghsei tis diadikasies gia to Synedrio kai bebaiws, na hghqei ths entatikhs prospaqeias ths kybernhshs, wste na apodwsei akomh perissotero kai kalytero ergo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, den qa fygei apo th xwra mexri to Synedrio, den qa bgei ejw kaqoloy;

REPPAS: Ayto qa to krinei o Prwqypoyrgos. Gnwrizete oti ayto einai isws dysaresto gia sas. To lete me ayto ton tropo, alla o Prwqypoyrgos qa einai edw. Kai prepei na sas pw oti, opws ola ayta ta xronia poy perasan kai eimaste edw, etsi kai polla xronia akoma, qa blepete ws Prwqypoyrgo ton Kwsta Shmith, an kai ayto den sas aresei! Omws, gi` ayta ta qemata apofasizei o ellhnikos laos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Emena kaqoloy.

REPPAS: Xairomai poy to akoyw, afoy sas peisame!

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos, mhpws prokeitai na dwsei kapoia synenteyjh stoys dhmosiografoys twra, prin thn Ekqesh ths Qessalonikhs;

REPPAS: Den problepetai sto programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, mexri twra, kati tetoio.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Memonwmenes qa dwsei, se thleoptika Mesa...;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti, mexri twra, to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy den perilambanei kati tetoio. Alla, mexri thn Ekqesh Qessalonikhs exoyme arketo kairo akoma.

KANELLOPOYLOS: O epishmos logos pros thn kybernhsh ths Kinas htan oti synedriazei to E.G.;

REPPAS: Ayto katalabate eseis;

KANELLOPOYLOS: Epeidh yparxei kai prohgoymenh anabolh, omws, tote yphrxe sobaros logos, htan oi seismoi. Twra einai to E.G.;

REPPAS: Eipa oti o Prwqypoyrgos paramenei edw gia na einai epikefalhs ths pio entatikhs prospaqeias poy kanei h kybernhsh kai ths diadikasias, h opoia hdh jekina, gia thn organwsh toy Synedrioy. Alla, h kybernhsh, epanalambanw, enteinei thn prospaqeia ths. To eipa kai sthn eisagwgh moy, enhmerwnontas sas, gia to periexomeno ths synedriashs ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs. O Prwqypoyrgos epeleje na parameinei edw sthn Ellada kai na askhsei ta kaqhkonta toy, epiblepontas kai kaqodhgwntas to ergo olwn twn ypoyrgwn.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Oi epishmes episkeceis toy Prwqypoyrgoy sto ejwteriko qa kaqorizontai apo tis synedriaseis twn kommatikwn organwn;

REPPAS: Den exete logoys na to isxyrizeste ayto.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Ayto akoyme shmera.

REPPAS: Kanete laqos. Gnwrizete poly kala oti den yparxei sto parelqon kati to opoio na sas odhgei sto symperasma oti kaqe fora poy qa prepei na synedriasei ena organo den qa ginontai oi episkeceis toy Prwqypoyrgoy se jenes xwres. Kaqe allo. O Prwqypoyrgos epeleje -kai einai politikh epilogh ayth- na parameinei edw kai na einai parwn se ayth th diadikasia. Eipa sthn arxh -kai qelw na eiste ki eseis eilikrineis, me ton eayto sas panw ap ola- oti einai o kalyteros tropos gia na apofygei kapoios ta kakopista sxolia, giati einai bebaio oti ayta qa yphrxan. Prepei ayto na to paradexqeite.

MPOTWNHS: Mhpws o Prwqypoyrgos, meta kai thn apofash poy phre gia thn epispeysh toy Synedrioy, allaje gnwmh kai qa kanei telika anasxhmatismo;

REPPAS: Tetoio qema den antimetwpizetai. Parakalw bgalte to apo th dhmosiografikh atzenta sas. Ayto to qema exei kleisei pro polloy. Den yparxei tetoio qema.

MOYRTZHS: O Prwqypoyrgos xqes milhse gia amfisbhthsh ths kybernhtikhs poreias apo osoys antitiqentai ston eksygxronismo ths xwras. Qelw na rwthsw ean aytoi oi amfisbhties kai yponomeytes ths kybernhtikhs poreias einai ws basiko ypomoxlio mesa sto PASOK h ektos PASOK;

REPPAS: Epanalambanw oti h apofash toy E.G. einai omofwnh. Sto E.G. toy PASOK symmetexoyn stelexh, poy ekfrazoyn oles tis apoceis, oi opoies -mporei na pei kaneis- filojenoyntai kai ekproswpoyntai se ayto to megalo Kinhma. Gi ayto akribws to PASOK, epeidh einai polysyllektiko, einai kai pleiochfiko. Apo kei kai pera yparxoyn amfisbhthseis twn xeirismwn, twn epilogwn ths kybernhshs -poy diatypwnontai kai eseis to gnwrizete- apo polles pleyres. H kalyterh apanthsh, loipon, gia thn enisxysh ths kybernhshs, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisei kai na jeperasei aytes tis amfisbhthseis, einai -ayto ekrine to E.G.- h epispeysh toy Synedrioy gia ligoys mhnes kai h organwsh toy ton epomeno Oktwbrio.

MOYRTZHS: Den apanthsate epi ths oysias. Egw rwtw, o k. Shmiths poy entopizei toys amfisbhties ths kybernhtikhs politikhs, mesa h ejw apo to PASOK;

REPPAS; Sas eipa oti apeyqynetai se oloys ekeinoys poy amfisbhtoyn xeirismoys kai epiloges. To eipa kai prin. Sas eipa de oti ayth h apofash toy E.G. einai omofwnh. Pragma poy shmainei oti ola ta melh qewroyn anagkaia ayth thn epilogh, ths epispeyshs ths organwshs toy Synedrioy, ton erxomeno Oktwbrio, prokeimenoy na antimetwpistei kai ayto to qema.

MOYRTZHS: Ekfrazetai h apoch oti h xqesinh kinhsh toy k. Shmith htan ena strathghma, ena epiqetiko texnasma gia na jeperasei to skopelo twn eswterikwn dienejewn, gi ayto kai prosedwse mia dramatikh diastash sta osa eipe xqes. Symfwneite h diafwneite;

REPPAS: Tipota apo ola ayta. Einai mia apolytws dhmokratikh epilogh. To Synedrio qa einai Synedrio synqeshs, omocyxias kai enothtas, prokeimenoy h kybernhsh, mesa apo th syzhthsh, thn analysh twn diaforwn qematwn kai twn politikwn apofasewn poy qa labei to Synedrio, na bgei akomh pio enisxymenh, gia na antapokriqei stis ypoxrewseis poy ths aneqese o ellhnikos laos me thn chfo toy ton Aprilio toy 2000. Kata ta alla, ola ayta ta kommatika qemata, qa epitrecete kai se emena, alla qelw ki eseis na to sebasteite ayto, na mhn ta syzhtoyme perissotero se ayth thn aiqoysa.

TAKHS: Eipate oti den qa ginei anasxhmatismos. Yparxei endexomeno kapoiwn diorqwtikwn kinhsewn, me periorismenes metakinhseis mesa sth kybernhsh, ws ton Oktwbrio;

REPPAS: Oyte kata dianoia. Sas parakalw ayto na mhn sas apasxolei, oyte san skech. Den apasxolei ton mono armodio poy einai o Prwqypoyrgos. Giati apasxolei esas;

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Eipate prohgoymenws oti to Synedrio, ektos apo mia stena kommatikh diadikasia, einai kai mia diadikasia me koinwnikes diastaseis. Qelw na rwthsw -dikaioymai, para to gegonos oti eipate prohgoymenws na sebastoyme to qema toy Synedrioy- to ejhs: Poy bazei ton phxh o Prwqypoyrgos, prokeimenoy na teqei telos sthn amfisbhthsh, mesa apo to Synedrio; Qymizw, oti sto prohgoymeno Synedrio toy 1999, o k. Shmiths phre to 65% twn chfwn. Twra poy mpainei o phxhs gia na stamathsei h amfisbhthsh, opws ekeinos thn periegrace sth dhlwsh toy meta th synedriash toy E.G. ;

REPPAS: O phxhs mas afora oloys kai mpainei se ekeino to epipedo, poy prepei oloi na arqoyme gia na antimetwpisoyme tis proklhseis twn kairwn, na lysoyme ta problhmata poy akomh apasxoloyn th xwra kai ton ellhniko lao kai na antapokriqoyme sthn entolh twn politwn.

MOYRTHS: Qelw na rwthsw an gnwrizete -epeidh anaferetai sto reportaz, se oles tis efhmerides- ean o Prwqypoyrgos xqes, eishgoymenos sto E.G. thn epispeysh toy Synedrioy, eipe oti se periptwsh poy den ginei dekth h protash toy ayth, einai anagkasmenos na paraithqei.

REPPAS: Apanthsa se ayto se prohgoymenh erwthsh toy k. Stamatopoyloy.

MOYRTHS: Den einai idia erwthsh. O k. Stamatopoylos rwthse ean ypebale paraithsh. Allo h ypobolh paraithsh, allo to endexomeno ypobolhs paraithshs, ean den ginei dekth h protash toy.

REPPAS: Malista. H idia apanthsh isxyei kai gia sas.

KAPPOS: Enocei ths Synodoy ths G-8 sth Genoba, oi italikes mystikes yphresies kai katastaltikes arxes, kanoyn logo gia enan apeilhtiko mesogeiako ajona, ston opoio entassoyn kai Ellhnes diadhlwtes. Qelw na rwthsw ean exei zhthqei apo thn Italia syndromh apo tis ellhnikes arxes, se sxesh me Ellhnes polites. Kai deyteron, ean -eite exei zhthqei, eite oxi- oi ellhnikes arxes qa dwsoyn plhrofories gia Ellhnes polites stis italikes arxes.

REPPAS: Tipota apo ola ayta den antapokrinetai sta pragmata. Oi Ellhnes polites mporoyn na kinhqoyn stis xwres ths E.E. H Italia einai mia dhmokratikh xwra, sthn opoia leitoyrgoyn oi qesmoi. Oi polites mporoyn na diatypwnoyn eleyqera tis apoceis toys, me tropo dhmokratiko kai eirhniko.

ANTYPAS: Mia erwthsh gia to qema twn pyrhnikwn poy anixneyqhkan sth Drapetswna. Yparxei plhroforia oti o entopismos egine thn 1h Ioynioy. Molis, shmera, omws, meta thn apokalych toy qematos, h Ellhnikh Epitroph Atomikhs Energeias esteile ekei kapoio synergeio. Eixan ginei, bebaia, kapoies metrhseis apo idiwth. Qa hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs.

REPPAS: Perissoteres leptomereies gia ta qemata ayta, qa prepei na zhthsete apo to DHMOKRITO kai thn Epitroph Atomikhs Energeias. Pragmati anixneyqhke se orismena ylika, poy xrhsimopoihqhkan sto ergostasio Fwsforikwn Lipasmatwn ths Drapetswnas, fysikh radienergeia. Frontizoyn oi yphresies gia thn aposyrsh aytoy toy ylikoy, xwris na dhmioyrgoyntai alloi kindynoi. Kathgorhmatika, omws, sas legw, metaferontas th qesh twn armodiwn arxwn, me ton pio egkyro tropo, oti den prokaleitai opoiosdhpote kindynos gia thn ygeia oswn ergasthkan sth monada ayth h oswn zoyn se ayth thn perioxh. Ayto prepei na einai safes, gia na mh dhmioyrgoyntai entypwseis peri kindynoy gia th zwh kai thn ygeia twn politwn. Apo thn allh, yparxei endiaferon ths armodias yphresias gia thn antimetwpish toy qematos.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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