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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 5 Ioynioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

O Prwqypoyrgos, ayth thn wra, dexetai ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias ths Slobenias k. Milan Kucan, o opoios episkeptetai thn Ellada meta apo prosklhsh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias Kwnstantinoy Stefanopoyloy. Meta th synanthsh oi dyo andres qa parakaqisoyn se geyma kai sth synexeia qa proboyn se dhlwseis.

To brady o Prwqypoyrgos paraxwrei thleoptikh synenteyjh gia ola ta qemata ths epikairothtas.

Ayrio, stis 10 to prwi, synedriazei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio me antikeimeno syzhthshs thn politikh xwrotajias, me eishghth ton armodio ypoyrgo Kwsta Laliwth. To apogeyma o Prwqypoyrgos anaxwrei gia to Berolino, proskeklhmenos toy k. Srenter me ton opoio qa exei synomilies gia qemata poy aforoyn to mellon ths Eyrwphs. O Prwqypoyrgos qa epistrecei sto telos ths ebdomadas.

Th Deytera prokeitai na synedriasei h Boylh gia na ginei syzhthsh se epipedo arxhgwn opws eixe zhthsei h k. Paparhga, gia qemata koinwnikhs politikhs kai ygeias.

Gia th Synodo Koryfhs toy NATO poy pragmatopoieitai thn erxomenh ebdomada stis Bryjelles qa sas enhmerwsw tis epomenes hmeres, epeidh den gnwrizoyme leptomerws to programma kai eidikotera, an h Synodos qa arxisei Tetarth prwi h apogeyma. Opws einai gnwsto o prwqypoyrgos qa metabei apo th belgikh prwteyoysa sto Gketemporgk, opoy qa pragmatopoihqei h Synodos Koryfhs ths E.E..

Oson afora thn pyrkagia poy ekdhlwqhke se Dhmoys ths perioxhs Kalamoy, Wrwpoy qelw na sas enhmerwsw oti exoyn teqei ypo elegxo. Exoyme zhmies se peripoy 40 agroikies. Apo thn prwth stigmh edrasan sthn perioxh dynameis ths Pyrosbestikhs kai toy Stratoy. Pentakosioi andres apo thn Pyrosbestikh Yphresia kai 250 andres apo to Strato. Sthn epixeirhsh symmeteixan epishs epta aeroplana, ena elikoptero, 107 pyrosbestika oxhmata. Sthn perioxh, gia pollh wra, fysoysan sfodroi anemoi. Ews twra, den exoyn ektimhqei oi zhmies, alla to apotelesma mporei na pei kaneis oti einai ikanopoihtiko, afoy h katastash brisketai ypo elegxo. H ektimhsh twn zhmiwn qa ginei argotera. Oi katastrofes aforoyn, kyriws, agrotikes kalliergeies kai oxi dasikes ektaseis.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Me poia krithria o Prwqypoyrgos epeleje na dwsei shmera synenteyjh sth NET; Qa antapokriqei kai se alles aithseis, plhn ths aithshs ths NET; Giati gnwrizoyme oti exoyn teqei tetoia aithmata.

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos kaqorizei to programma toy, opws ekeinos epilegei. Qewrhse, loipon, skopimo, kaqws kleinei ayth h periodos -ena xrono meta tis ekloges- na paraxwrhsei mia synenteyjh ef` olhs ths ylhs sth dhmosia Radiothleorash. Argotera, asfalws, qa paraxwrhsei synenteyjeis kai se thleoptikoys kai radiofwnikoys staqmoys, sto plaisio pantote toy programmatos toy. Den einai qema, dhladh, na antapokrinetai se aithmata. Einai dedomeno oti sxetika aithmata exoyn katateqei kai paramenoyn pantote sto trapezi. O Prwqypoyrgos einai aytos poy kaqorizei thn atzenta basei ths opoias kineitai ki etsi qa synexisei.

MIXAHL: Giati protimhse na dwsei se ena Meso, anejarthta poio einai ayto, kai den protimhse na kanei mia anoikth synenteyjh Typoy sto Zappeio, opoy qa dextei erwthmata toy synoloy toy Typoy;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti o Prwqypoyrgos paraxwrei synenteyjeis aytoy toy xarakthra sth DEQ, sthn Enwsh Jenwn Antapokritwn. Sto mellon qa paraxwrhsei kai alles tetoioy eidoys synenteyjeis. Aplws, twra, epeleje mia thleoptikh synenteyjh.

MIXAHL: Xqes, akoysame ton ekproswpo toy Ypoyrgeioy Emporikhs Naytilias na leei oti den apekrybh tipota, sxetika me th syllhch sth Mykono kai thn ypoqesh narkwtikwn. Omws, oi syllhfqentes kai sygkekrimena o feromenos ws kybernhths toy skafoys eipe oti yphrxan kai alla proswpa ta opoia briskontan sto skafos. Giati, sthn epishmh anakoinwsh den perielhfqhsan kai ayta;

REPPAS: Gnwrizw oti o ekproswpos Typoy eipe pws anakoinwse ta atoma poy briskontan sto skafos otan egine h efodos kai h ereyna. Den egnwrize poia alla atoma mporei na briskontan sto skafos prin. Ara, den anaferqhke se alla atoma. Apo ekei kai pera gia to qema ayto exei epilhfqei, hdh, h armodia dikastikh yphresia. Epomenws, den xreiazetai na sxoliasoyme emeis kati poy mporei na apotelesei kai parembash sto ergo ths. Gnwrizete oti gia qemata poy aforoyn ayth th mastiga twn narkwtikwn oloi exoyme thn idia eyaisqhsia. H kybernhsh exei analabei seira prwtoboyliwn, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisei kai na ejaleicei, an einai dynaton, ayth th mastiga. Qa prepei, omws, ola ayta ta qemata na ta antimetwpisoyme xwris ypokrisia, alla kai xwris ypekfyges, analambanontas o kaqenas thn eyqynh toy. H oikogeneia, to sxoleio, h koinwnia. Giati, h ellhnikh koinwnia einai mia mikrh koinwnia. Yparxoyn paradosiakoi desmoi metajy mas. Qa prepei oloi na strateytoyme se ayton ton agwna enantion twn narkwtikwn. Idiaiterws oi armodies yphresies qa prepei na katabaloyn prospaqeia, na elegxoyn systhmatika, wste na prolambanoyme, anti ek twn ysterwn na epixeiroyme na katasteiloyme thn ekdhlwsh tetoiwn fainomenwn. H sygkekrimenh klinikh leitoyrgei me adeia ths Nomarxiakhs Aytodioikhshs kai elegxetai apo tis armodies yphresies ths. H armodiothta ayth einai plhrws ekxwrhmenh sth Nomarxiakh Aytodioikhsh. Gnwrizw oti exei afaireqei h adeia episthmonikoy ypeyqynoy poy eixe xorhghqei sto sympolith mas cyxiatro. Kai ean den dexqei kapoios allos me aithsh toy na diekdikhsei ayth thn idiothta, asfalws qa kleisei kai h klinikh. Ta qemata, omws, ayta ta xeirizetai h Nomarxiakh Aytodioikhsh kai monon ayth.

MIXAHL: Kyrie Ypoyrge, sas rwthsa gia ton ejhs logo, dioti doqhke h entypwsh oti yparxoyn dyo diaforetikes proseggiseis gia toys polites. Kapoioi, dhladh, poy me ton ena h ton allo tropo den ferontai emplekomenoi, ayto qa to deijei h anakrish, den anakoinwnontai ta onomata toys. Se alles periptwseis anakoinwnetai. Qa hqela na jerw ean h kybernhsh xrhsimopoiei ta idia krithria pantote gia kaqe periptwsh poy@

REPPAS: H kybernhsh den asxolhqhke me ayto to qema. Poia anakoinwsh, dhladh, qa ginei gia to poioi htan h den htan sto skafos. Ayto poy prepei na pw -kai epimenw- einai oti h kybernhsh exei sygkekrimenh politikh ston tomea ayto. Exei analabei seira prwtoboyliwn, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisoyme kai na ejaleicoyme ayth th mastiga. Mas afora oloys ayto to problhma. Apo ekei kai pera, gnwrizete poly kala oti oi diadikasies elegxoy, oson afora th leitoyrgia toy idrymatos, aforoyn th Nomarxiakh Aytodioikhsh. Prepei na tonisw, gia na mhn yparxei sygxysh, oti programmata apejarthshs h qerapeias tojikomanwn efarmozontai mono sta idrymata toy dhmosioy tomea. Se idiwtikes klinikes oyte epitraphke, oyte epitrepetai na efarmozontai tetoia programmata. Ara, loipon, den dikaiologeitai h xrhsimopoihsh tetoiwn oysiwn. Apo ekei kai pera, h armodia dikastikh yphresia exei epilhfqei toy qematos. Den qa kanoyme tipote allo, para na perimenoyme na oloklhrwsei thn ereyna ths.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Einai eyxaristhmenh h kybernhsh apo thn antimetwpish ths xqesinhs pyrkagias;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh einai ikanopoihmenh, giati para tis antijoes kairikes synqhkes, toys isxyroys anemoys to metwpo ths fwtias elegxqhke.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Otan ekace ta panta!

REPPAS: Mh biazeste. Den exoyn kaei ta panta. Kaqe xrono kaigontai ta panta! Eseis oi idioi epilegete titloys typoy "kahke h mish Ellada", alla exoyn perasei polla xronia poy kaigontai kaqe xrono oi ..."mises Ellades". Loipon, posh einai h Ellada; Sas parakalw poly. Kai ayto einai ena shmantiko qema. Xreiazetai na eimaste ypeyqynoi otan syzhtoyme gia tetoia qemata. Kai prepei na anadeijoyme, peran twn armodiothtwn kai toy roloy twn kratikwn yphresiwn, to rolo poy prepei na diadramatizoyn kai oi idioi oi polites. Enocei ths qerinhs periodoy, prepei na eimaste oloi katallhla proetoimasmenoi. Na exoyme kaqares tis perioxes aytes, giati an den parembainoyme, logiko einai na einai pio ekteqeimenes kai eyprosblhtes se ena tetoio endexomeno pyrkagias. Prepei na sas pw oti gia kaqarismoys to ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn, mesw ths armodias yphresias Politikhs Prostasias, exei kataneimei pistwseis stoys Organismoys Aytodioikhshs, edw kai kairo. Qelete na anaferw kai posa; Mporw na anaferw.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Exei ginei kamia;

REPPAS: Bebaiws.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mporeite na moy peite, ean exei ginei kamia;

REPPAS: Qa apeyqynqeite stoys sygkekrimenoys dhmarxoys. Prepei na sas pw oti, oson afora toys Dhmoys gyrw apo thn Aqhna, epeidh leitoyrgoyn syndesmoi poy anaptyssoyn drasthriothta se polloys Dhmoys taytoxronws, exoyn doqei shmantika posa. Peripoy 150 ekatommyria drx. exoyn doqei gia toys Dhmoys sthn perioxh toy Ymhttoy. Alla 150 ekatommyria drx. gia toys Dhmoys ths perioxhs ths Pentelhs. Alla 150 ekatommyria drx. gia toys Dhmoys sthn perioxh ths Parnhqas. Alla 150 ekatommyria drx. exoyn doqei gia toys Dhmoys sthn perioxh toy oroys Aigalew k.tl. Gia toys sygkekrimenoys Dhmoys ths perioxhs sthn opoia ekdhlwqhke h pyrkagia, prepei na sas anakoinwsw oti: Sthn koinothta Skalas Wrwpoy exoyn doqei deka ekatommyria drx. gia kaqarismo, sthn koinothta Markopoyloy Wrwpoy tria ekatommyria drx. kai sthn koinothta Kalamoy pente ekatommyria drx. gia ton kaqarismo ths xwmaterhs. Epiprosqetws, konta sthn prospaqeia poy kanoyn oi kentrikes yphresies, oi idioi oi Dhmoi kai oi Koinothtes exoyn dika toys programmata ta opoia xrhmatodotoyntai me pistwseis poy exoyn apo ton proypologismo toys, sto plaisio proetoimasias kaqe perioxhs gia th qerinh periodo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Allo sas rwthsa egw. Egw rwthsa, apo tis Yphresies poy anelaban na sbhsoyn th fwtia, einai eyxaristhmenh h kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti kinhtopoihqhke enas poly shmantikos ariqmos dynamewn. Efqase stoys 500 h dynamh twn andrwn ths Pyrosbestikhs kai stoys 250 h dynamh twn andrwn twn Enoplwn Dynamewn. Xrhsimopoihqhkan epta aeroplana kai ena elikoptero, ta opoia petajan se antijoes synqhkes, kaqws kai 107 pyrosbestika oxhmata. Oi dynameis aytes einai terasties kai para tis dyskolies katorqwsan telika na elegjoyn thn pyrkagia se ayto to metwpo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H pyrkagia, an den jerete, stamathse ekei poy eixe kaei perysi. Molis ekace ta panta, ekei stamatoyse h pyrkagia.

REPPAS: Kalytero qa htan na mhn eixe ekdhlwqei kaqoloy h pyrkagia. Kai prepei na poyme oti panta yparxoyn oi emprhstes, oi egklhmaties, alla syxna kai apo logoys dikhs mas ameleias h apo elleich analhchs sygkekrimenwn prolhptikwn metrwn exoyme ekdhlwsh pyrkagias. Den prepei na synaisqanqoyme kai emeis to xreos mas; Prepei na ginei kai ayto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai gia to allo poy lete, einai 40 agroikies poy kahkan; Agroikies einai;

REPPAS: Den eipa oti kahkan. Eipa oti exoyn zhmies. Oi zhmies aytes alloy einai megalyteres, alloy einai mikroteres. Kata bash einai agroikies. Exoyme kai zhmies se spitia, ta opoia einai mesa se kapoies dasikes ektaseis, poy kata to pleiston -as to poyme ki ayto- einai ayqaireta.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayqaireta kahkan, dhladh.

REPPAS: Kahkan kai ayqaireta. Mikres katoikies poy einai ayqaireta ktismata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Se allo qema. O ypoyrgos Paideias, o k. Eyqymioy, meta to fiasko twn ejetasewn, paramenei sth qesh toy;

REPPAS: Den afora h ejelijh ayth ton k. Eyqymioy. Afora thn Kentrikh Epitroph Genikwn Ejetasewn, h opoia diatypwse thn telikh qesh ths, poy prepei na ginei sebasth. Poly perissotero, poy oi maqhtes synexizoyn tis ejetaseis kai qa prepei se hremo periballon na oloklhrwsoyn thn prospaqeia toys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayto to maqhma qa akyrwqei;

REPPAS: Sas apanthsa, legontas oti h K.E.G.E anakoinwse thn telikh qesh ths poy prepei na ginei sebasth. Jerete poia einai h telikh qesh ths.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sthn KEGE, efoson lete oti den anhkei sto ypoyrgeio Paideias, poios proistatai;

REPPAS: Einai epikefalhs o Genikos Grammateas toy ypoyrgeioy Paideias, alla gnwrizete oti h KEGE leitoyrgei ws anejarthth apo to ypoyrgeio Paideias Epitroph.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Einai asxetos, dhladh, aytos; Aplws proedreyei;

REPPAS: Den exei kamia anameijh o Genikos Grammateas toy ypoyrgeioy Paideias, oson afora thn epilogh twn qematwn.

KALARITHS: Exete kapoies endeijeis gia ta aitia ths pyrkagias, an prokeitai gia emprhsmo h alla aitia;

REPPAS: Oi armodies yphresies, opws me exoyn plhroforhsei, dienergoyn ayth thn wra ereyna. Den exoyn katalhjei se ena symperasma, ara einai prowro na poyme otidhpote gia to qema ayto.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, to epishmo site toy toyrkikoy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, filojenei mia palaioterh dhlwsh toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy, gia to qema ths "Tsamoyrias", mia dhlwsh apo to 1995, sthn opoia o k. Papandreoy paradexetai oti yparxei ratsismos. Ektos aytoy, ayto poy qelw na moy peite einai ean exei perielqei se gnwsh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Anaferetai to aithma apo thn pleyra ths Toyrkias gia dikaih kai eirhnikh lysh sto problhma twn Albanwn poy zoyn sthn Ellada, zhtoyn na askhqei dieqnhs piesh sthn Ellada, gi` ayto miloyn gia katapiesh, alla kai gia apozhmiwsh ylikwn zhmiwn apo thn periodo toy B@ Pagkosmioy Polemoy. Gnwrizete ayto to qema;

REPPAS: To gnwrizoyme to qema. Gnwrizete kai eseis poia einai h qesh mas gia to qema ayto. Kata ta alla, h epilogh ayth ths toyrkikhs pleyras, einai mia energeia mh filikh pros thn Ellada kai pantws einai mia energeia anapotelesmatikh. Gnwrizete poia skopimothta krybetai pisw apo thn epixeirhsh na anadeixqei ayto to qema. Alla, o teleytaios poy mporei na mila gia sebasmo twn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn, einai h Toyrkia. Poly perissotero, otan anaferetai sthn Ellada.

Sas eyxaristw.

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