Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-06-01

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 1 Ioynioy 2001

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI

KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalo mhna.

Gnwrizete oti synedriazei shmera h Kentrikh Epitroph toy PASOK. To keimeno ths omilias toy Prwqypoyrgoy einai sth diaqesh sas.

Qa moy epitrecete, prin dexqw tis erwthseis sas, na kanw ena sxolio, anaferomenos sta osa eipe o Ispanos Epitropos k. Solmpes, sxetika me thn katastash koinwnikwn omadwn sthn Ellada ws pros to epipedo ths ftwxeias. Qelw na shmeiwsw oti ta stoixeia poy anefere einai stoixeia ths periodoy 1994-1996, ara antanakloyn thn politikh poy akoloyqhqhke thn periodo 1990-1993. Einai stoixeia ta opoia, asfalws, den antapokrinontai sth shmerinh pragmatikothta -kai qa anaferqw amesws meta se ayto- giati amesws meta to 1996 kai proodeytika exoyn ayjhqei oi koinwnikes dapanes kata dyo trisekatommyria draxmes. To poso ayto antistoixei sto 2% toy Akaqaristoy Eqnikoy Proiontos. Qymizw tis politikes poy akoloyqhsame ayth thn periodo, opws einai to epidoma Koinwnikhs Allhleggyhs poy gia prwth fora qesmoqethqhke, einai oi politikes mas gia thn apasxolhsh kai th meiwsh ths anergias, ta metra poy exoyme labei gia toys hlikiwmenoys kai toys syntajioyxoys, oi forologikes allages poy aforoyn toys misqosynthrhtoys kai alloys polites poy exoyn xamhlo eisodhma. Kai bebaiws, teleytaia prwtoboylia sthn kateyqynsh ayth, einai to Diktyo Koinwnikhs Allhleggyhs. Ton perasmeno Aprilio ejaggelqhke kai h politikh ayth qa efarmostei apo thn arxh toy epomenoy xronoy. Gnwrizete oti se epipedo koinwnikwn dapanwn, h Ellada ta teleytaia xronia brisketai sto ychlotero epipedo, se sxesh me oles tis alles xwres toy legomenoy "eyrwpaikoy notoy", ektos ths Italias.

Prepei na shmeiwsw, epishs, oti sta stoixeia ayta poy anaferqhkan -kai einai ta stoixeia poy genikws xrhsimopoioyntai- den perilambanontai ta poly shmantika dedomena poy aforoyn thn periptwsh ths xwras mas, opws ayto poy sxetizetai me thn idiokatoikhsh, h opoia sthn Ellada brisketai se poly ychlo pososto, peripoy sto 80%. Gnwrizete oti se sxesh me oles tis alles xwres ths E.E., to pososto ths idiokatoikhshs sthn Ellada brisketai makran sto ychlotero epipedo. Opws, epishs, den anaferontai sta ejairetika shmantika pososta poy aforoyn thn idiokatanalwsh sthn Ellada. H idiokatanalwsh afora, kyriws, toys polites poy drasthriopoioyntai ston agrotiko tomea, o opoios einai yperaneptygmenos sthn Ellada. Einai peripoy sto 18%, otan sth deyterh xwra ths E.E. to antistoixo pososto einai peripoy sto 1/3.

Telos, gnwrizete, opws allwste exoyme pei, to koinwniko kratos, h prospaqeia mas gia thn politikh enantia sth ftwxeia kai ton apokleismo, h politikh koinwnikhs allhleggyhs einai shmantikh proteraiothta mas. Allwste, meta to Eqniko Sxedio Drashs gia thn Apasxolhsh, tis epomenes hmeres, o armodios ypoyrgos kataqetei sth Boylh ena neo nomosxedio poy afora to Eqniko Sxedio Drashs gia thn Koinwnikh Enswmatwsh twn Politwn. Ayto, me ton kalytero tropo, apodeiknyei oti h proodos poy exei kanei h xwra mas ston tomea ayto, ta teleytaia xronia, qa synexistei kai qa epitaxynqei. Allwste, apotelei kyriarxo melhma mas h enisxysh toy koinwnikoy kratoys.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den eixate dwsei stoixeia sthn E.E. meta thn periodo 1994-1996;

REPPAS: Xairomai gia thn erwthsh sas, giati moy dinete th dynatothta na sas enhmerwsw. Prepei na sas pw, loipon, oti ayta ta stoixeia poy xrhsimopoihse kai o armodios Epitropos, basizontai se meletes-ereynes poy exoyn ginei ekeinh thn periodo. Den xrhsimopoioyntai stoixeia apo thn ereyna oikogeneiakwn proypologismwn, poy fqanoyn ews to 1999. Apo tis ereynes aytes, poy apoteloyn thn plhresterh, pio prosfath kai ploysioterh phgh plhroforhshs, se sxesh me to legomeno ``eyrwpaiko panel noikokyriwn'', exoyme stoixeia gia to epipedo zwhs twn politwn stis xwres ths Eyrwphs kai apokalyptetai h pragmatikothta opws exei shmera. Sas eipa -anaferontas kapoia stoixeia- poies einai oi politikes poy exoyn akoloyqhqei apo th dikh mas kybernhsh, oi opoies den yphrxan thn periodo sthn opoia anaferontai ta stoixeia poy edwse o Ispanos Epitropos. Dhladh, to Epidoma Koinwnikhs Allhleggyhs, oi forologikes allages, oi epidomatikes politikes toy Organismoy Apasxolhshs Ergatikoy Dynamikoy, h allagh sthn politikh gia thn Apasxolhsh, einai politikes poy akoloyqhqhkan meta to 1996. Epanalambanw, loipon, oti ta stoixeia poy xrhsimopoihse o Koinotikos Epitropos einai ths periodoy ekeinhs. Den yparxei kamia diafwnia ws pros ayto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Skopima den ta xrhsimopoihse;

REPPAS: H phgh stoixeiwn poy xrhsimopoihqhke se ayth thn periptwsh stamata ekeinh thn periodo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mono gia thn idiokatoikhsh xrhsimopoihse ayta ta stoixeia;

REPPAS: Kanete terastio laqos. Den anaferqhke kan sthn idiokatoikhsh kai thn idiokatanalwsh, epeidh akribws aytoi oi deiktes, poy einai ejairetika shmantikoi gia th zwh twn noikokyriwn sthn Ellada, den lambanontai ypoch kata th metrhsh twn allwn stoixeiwn sthn E.E. Den lambanei kaqoloy ypoch ths h E.E. aytes tis metrhseis, an kai h idiokatoikhsh sthn Ellada brisketai sto ychlo pososto toy 80%.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qelw na rwthsw gia th ``gkafa'' toy ypoyrgeioy Paideias, poy edwse ena qema frontisthriwn. Htan ``gkafa'' h to edwsan apo mesa;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, o tropos poy diatypwnete mia toso krisimh kai gia ena toso sobaro qema erwthsh, deixnei oti eiste prokateilhmmenos. Milate gia ``gkafa'' toy ypoyrgeioy Paideias. Den gnwrizete toys nomoys toy kratoys; Kata to nomo poy isxyei h Kentrikh Epitroph Genikwn Ejetasewn (KEGE), einai h anejarthth epitroph, to mono armodio organo ths Politeias, gia osa qemata sxetizontai me thn organwsh kai diejagwgh twn ejetasewn. Gnwrizete oti oydeis mporei na ypokatasthsei thn KEGE sto ergo ths. Oydeis mporei na allajei tis apofaseis kai tis epiloges ths. Ayto leei o nomos. Apo kei kai pera, qa moy epitrecete na isxyristw, apantwntas sthn erwthsh sas, oti eiste prokateilhmmenos, otan milate gia ``gkafa'' toy ypoyrgeioy Paideias, me dedomeno oti h KEGE exei apolyth aytonomia se sxesh me thn hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Paideias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sto ypoyrgeio Amynas anhkei ayth h Epitroph;

REPPAS: Oloi oi organismoi, oi epitropes, oi yphresies poy leitoyrgoyn proaspizontas h yposthrizontas dhmosies leitoyrgies, epopteyontai apo kapoio ypoyrgeio. Ayto den sas dinei to dikaiwma na kanete ayto to alma logikhs sto keno, prokeimenoy na sthrijete ton isxyrismo sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ta qemata den dinontai apo to ypoyrgeio;

REPPAS: H hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Paideias den exei kamia sxesh me thn epilogh kai to periexomeno twn qematwn. Eyqynh exei h KEGE, ths opoias apokleistikh armodiothta einai ayta ta zhthmata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O ypoyrgos Paideias aplws proedreyei ths epitrophs;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti den symmetexei kan sthn Epitroph.

STAMATOPOYLOS:...poylane ta qemata...

REPPAS: Isxyrizeste oti poylane ta qemata; Exete kapoia sygkekrimenh kataggelia na kanete;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den qymaste to Rammo, ti eixe kanei;

REPPAS: Gnwrizw kai to exw kataggeilei oti o Rammos, htan epi hmerwn ths N.D., me ypoyrgo Paideias ton k. Barbitsiwth. Katopin toytoy, ean exete pragmatika na kataggeilete kati sygkekrimeno, qa prosferete megalh yphresia sto ellhniko Eqnos, oxi mono stoys maqhtes poy diagwnizontai. Ean, omws, xrhsimopoieite tetoioy eidoys isxyrismoys, mono kai mono gia na dhmioyrghsete entypwseis, kalo einai na to apofygete, giati oi ejetaseis synexizontai. Ta paidia qa prepei me hremo tropo na synexisoyn ayth thn prospaqeia toys. As afhsoyme toys maqhtes na synexisoyn tis ejetaseis toys kai apo kei kai pera, o,ti einai na ginei prepei na ginei sto plaisio ths nomimothtas. H nomimothta, loipon, epiballei, h KEGE na exei ton apokleistiko logo epi twn qematwn aytwn. Sas parakalw mhn epidiwkete na dhmioyrgeite entypwseis, giati antilambaneste oti xwris na exete tetoia proqesh, dhmioyrgeite problhmata ston tropo me ton opoio prepei na synexistoyn oi ejetaseis.

MPOYRDARAS: Oson afora to prwto qema, mhpws eiste se qesh na mas peite poio einai shmera to orio ths ftwxeias sthn Ellada kai poses oikogeneies zoyn katw apo ayto;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti, oson afora ta stoixeia poy edwse o k. Solmpes kai sta opoia anaferei kapoia pososta, emeis apantoyme pws ta stoixeia ayta poy xrhsimopoioyntai gia th metrhsh toy epipedoy ths ftwxeias antapokrinontai se mia progenesterh periodo. Ta stoixeia poy qa mporoysan na xrhsimopoihqoyn gia th shmerinh katastash sth xwra mas, den lambanontai ypoch, giati den exei synypologisei h E.E. shmantikoys paragontes, opws einai kyriws h idiokatoikhsh kai h idiokatanalwsh. Ta pososta kai gia toys dyo aytoys tomeis einai poly ychla. Den exw na prosqesw tipota allo.

MPOYRDARAS: Me aformh mia palaioterh anakoinwsh se ayta poy eipate shmera gia to sxedo gia thn koinwnikh allhleggyh, eixe pei o Prwqypoyrgos tote, anaferontas ws paradeigma tis 750.000 ws ethsio eisodhma gia oikogeneies se oreines kai hmioreines perioxes, oti qa toys enisxysei h kybernhsh me 100.000 ews 200.000 drx. ethsiws. To metro afora 140.000 oikogeneies kai h enisxysh qa dinotan mesw ths forologikhs dhlwshs toys. An den kanw laqos, me tetoia eisodhmata den katatiqentai forologikes dhlwseis. Pws qa ginei ayto;

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, gnwrizete oti den kataqetoyn forologikes dhlwseis oi agrotes kai kapoies koinwnikes omades poy ta eisodhmata toys einai sygkekrimena kai gnwsta, epeidh proerxontai apo pronoiakes enisxyseis poy lambanoyn. Apo ekei kai pera, oloi oi misqwtoi, oloi osoi exoyn kapoio eisodhma apo alles yphresies, asfalws kataqetoyn forologikh dhlwsh. Aytoi, loipon, poy kinoyntai se ayta ta epipeda eisodhmatos xreiazontai thn enisxysh ths Politeias. Qa sas parepempa, gia perissoteres leptomereies gia na mhn sas koyrazw, sth shmerinh omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, o opoios anaferetai ektetamena stis draseis ths kybernhshs olh ayth thn periodo, me sygkekrimenes anafores se koinwnikes omades, se metra politikhs, se posa oikonomikwn enisxysewn poy dinontai, prokeimenoy na exete mia plhrh eikona.

GIANNISHS: Eipate, prohgoymenws, na afhsoyme twra toys maqhtes na synexisoyn tis ejetaseis me hremia. Ayto shmainei oti argotera qa yparjei dioikhtikh ereyna;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti h Kentrikh Epitroph Genikwn Ejetasewn exei thn apokleistikh armodiothta. Oydeis mporei na thn ypokatasthsei sto ergo ths. Den yparxei kanena stoixeio poy na dikaiologei tetoioy eidoys aitiaseis h kathgories san aytes poy diatypwnontai. Fqanoyn kapoioi sto shmeio, opws o synadelfos sas, na briskoyn skopimothta se mia tetoia epilogh. Kalo einai, ayto na to apofygoyme. Poly perissotero poy oi ejetaseis einai se ejelijh. Qa prepei na yperaspistoyme to dikaiwma twn maqhtwn na diagwnistoyn se ena klima hremias. Apo ekei kai pera, h KEGE einai ayth poy exei thn apokleistikh armodiothta kai oydeis allos. Kai pantws, gia to symferon twn idiwn twn maqhtwn, qa prepei ola na ginontai sto plaisio ths nomimothtas. Ayth einai mia basikh qesh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Th nomimothta poios qa thn efarmosei; To ypoyrgeio Emporikhs Naytilias;

REPPAS: Th nomimothta thn efarmozei to ypoyrgeio Paideias, alla kai ayto desmeyetai apo toys nomoys. To ypoyrgeio Paideias kai o ypoyrgos Paideias den einai peran toy plaisioy poy orizei o nomos. O nomos, loipon, apodidei sthn KEGE ayth thn armodiothta, kata tropo plhrh kai apokleistiko.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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