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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 24 Maioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Synedriase, shmera, to KYSEA kai syzhthse tria qemata, ta opoia eishghqhke o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas A. Tsoxatzopoylos:

To Eniaio Mesoproqesmo Programma Anaptyjhs-Eksygxronismoy twn Enoplwn Dynamewn (EMPAE), ths periodoy 2001-2005.

Thn ejelijh twn ejoplistikwn programmatwn kai

Thn amyntikh strathgikh anaqewrhsh.

Gnwrizete oti sth synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, stis 29 Martioy, apofasisthke na metatopistei xronika h pragmatopoihsh orismenwn tmhmatwn toy Ejoplistikoy Programmatos kai na metateqei h ypografh twn sxetikwn symbasewn, gia thn periodo meta to 2004. Ayth h apofash afora to maxhtiko aeroskafos ths 4hs genias "Gioyrofaiter", gia to opoio exei lhfqei sxetikh apofash se palaioterh synedriash toy KYSEA. Epishs, peran toy sygkekrimenoy aeroskafoys, h apofash ayth afora kai ejoplismoys synolikhs dapanhs ycoys, peripoy 1 tris draxmwn. Poioi sygkekrimena ejoplismoi qa metateqoyn gia thn periodo meta to 2004 qa to apofasisoyme, meta apo eishghsh poy qa kanei o armodios Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas, symfwna me tis problepomenes diadikasies, dhladh, se nea synedriash toy KYSEA.

Opws gnwrizete eixe prohghqei synergasia, ypo thn Proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy, twn ypoyrgwn Eqnikhs Amynas kai Eqnikhs Oikonomias.

H ejeidikeysh ths apofashs ayths na meiwqei h dapanh gia ejoplismoys kata thn periodo mexri 2004, kata 1 tris draxmes, thn opoia eixame labei sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph, exei ws ejhs:

-To 2001 efarmozetai kanonika to programma poy exoyme apofasisei.

-To 2002 exoyme meiwsh 195 dis draxmwn (apo 1 tris 206 dis draxmes se 1 tris 11 dis draxmes).

-To 2003 exoyme meiwsh 390 dis draxmwn (apo 1 tris 118 dis draxmes se 728 dis draxmes).

-To 2004 exoyme meiwsh 415 dis draxmwn (apo 1 tris 72 dis draxmes se 657 dis draxmes).

H synolikh meiwsh -sas anefera pws diarqrwnetai tmhmatika kaqe xrono- anerxetai sto poso toy 1 tris 3 dis draxmwn. Se ayto to plaisio qa kanei eishghsh o armodios ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas.

Symfwnhsame, epishs, to EMPAE 2001-2005 na epektaqei xronika mexri to 2008, wste meta to 2005 kai mexri to 2008, na ginoyn dapanes gia ejoplistika programmata, ycoys peripoy 1 tris draxmwn. Exoyme, dhladh, mia meiwsh ejoplistikwn dapanwn kata to poso ayto mexri to 2005. Oi dapanes aytes qa ginoyn thn epomenh periodo mexri to 2008.

Gnwrizete oti eidika gia to "Gioyrofaiter" exoyme labei sxetikh apofash sto KYSEA. Einai h apofash me ariqmo 1 toy 2000. Sthn apofash ayth paramenoyme.

Gnwrizete, epishs, oti gia thn enisxysh twn Enoplwn Dynamewn h Kybernhsh exei ylopoihsei seira ejoplistikwn programmatwn, me shmantikes dapanes, giati epiqymoyme na exoyme isxyres Enoples Dynameis. H isxyrh apotreptikh dynamh twn Enoplwn Dynamenwn ths xwras mas apotelei basiko stoixeio ths politikhs ths kybernhshs mas. Se oloys toys tomeis exoyn ylopoihqei shmantika ejoplistika programmata. Idiaiterws, ean anaferqoyme sthn Polemikh Aeroporia, mporoyme na poyme oti me to prwto EMPAE, ths periodoy 1996-2000, enisxyqhke qeamatika kai anabaqmisthke h ikanothta kai h eparkeia ths, oxi mono me thn apokthsh newn maxhtikwn aeroskafwn, alla kai me seira allwn ejoplistikwn programmatwn, opws einai ta programmata gia thn antiaeroporikh amyna, thn ekpaideysh k.lp.

Sygkekrimena -giati ayta prepei na ta qymomaste- sto programma 1996-2000, metajy twn allwn:

Eixame apofasisei kai apokthqhkan maxhtika aeroskafh F-16, me dapanh 720 dis draxmwn kai maxhtika aeroskafh MIRAZ-2000, synolikhs dapanhs 558 dis draxmwn.

Eksygxronisthkan aeroskafh typoy FANTOM, me synoliko kostos gia ton eksygxronismo toys 100 dis draxmes.

Agorasthke to ekpaideytiko aeroskafos typoy T-6, synolikhs dapanhs 78 dis draxmwn.

Eixame, epishs, thn promhqeia antiaeroporikwn pyraylwn megaloy belhnekoys, toys gnwstoys "PATRIOT", synolikhs dapanhs 390 dis draxmwn kai twn antiaeroporikwn pyraylwn mikroy belhnekoys, toys gnwstoys "KROTAL", synolikhs dapanhs 80 dis draxmwn. Gia ta kyria programmata sta opoia anaferqhka, oi dapanes poy kaname ekeinh thn periodo, anhlqan sta 2 tris 106 dis draxmes.

Stis apofaseis poy exoyme parei gia thn efarmogh mias politikhs poy enisxyei tis Enoples Dynameis ths xwras, eidika gia thn Polemikh Aeroporia, ylopoiwntas to programma mas, dapanhsame, pera apo ta arxikws problefqenta kata to 1996, xrhmatika posa poy fqanoyn to ycos twn 900 dis draxmwn. To poso poy anefera prin yperkalyptei ayto poy arxika eixame problecei kai apofasisei. Sto telos toy programmatos toy EMPAE 1996-2000 apologistika fainetai oti exoyme katabalei 900 dis draxmes perissotera apo ayta poy arxikws eixame problecei, eidika gia programmata ths Polemikhs Aeroporias. Eixe, dhladh, problefqei ena poso 1 tris 200 dis draxmwn kai phgame se ena programma gia to opoio dapanhsame 2 tris 106 dis draxmes. H prospaqeia synexizetai pros thn kateyqynsh ayth, prokeimenoy na diathrhsoyme se ychlo epipedo, isxyrh, thn apotreptikh dynamh twn Enoplwn Dynamewn ths xwras mas.

Syzhthqhkan, epishs, qemata poy aforoyn thn ejelijh twn ejoplistikwn programmatwn. O ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas anaferqhke se dyo programmata:

Prwton, ayto poy afora to aeroskafos meshs metaforikhs ikanothtas. Prepei na sas pw oti exei apokleistei apo thn arxh -sas eixa enhmerwsei tote- enas typos, ta ANTONOF. Sth diagwnistikh diadikasia h opoia ejelissetai einai treis akomh typoi. Den katalhgoyme se apofaseis. H diadikasia ayth synexizetai. Se mia epomenh fash qa lhfqei kai h telikh apofash.

To deytero ejoplistiko programma sto opoio anaferqhke o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas, afora to neo arma maxhs. Sth diadikasia ayth symmetexoyn eji etaireies. H prosklhsh endiaferontos egine ton Oktwbrio toy 1999, sas eixa enhmerwsei tote. Prosfata, stis 19 Ianoyarioy toy 2001, ypoblhqhkan apo tis endiaferomenes etaireies oi telikes beltiwmenes protaseis toys, opws akribws toys eixe zhthqei. H ajiologhsh gia to neo arma maxhs synexizetai. Meletwntai oi telikes beltiwmenes protaseis poy exoyn ypobalei oi epixeirhmatikoi foreis, prokeimenoy na lhfqei h telikh apofash.

To trito qema poy syzhthsame einai ayto poy afora thn amyntikh strathgikh anaqewrhsh. H politikh mas ston tomea ths amynas sxediazetai se baqos xronoy. H sygkekrimenh politikh exei orizonta to 2015.Stoxos ths amyntikhs strathgikhs anaqewrhshs, metajy allwn einai:

-H makroxronia ektimhsh twn ejelijewn sto gewpolitiko periballon.

O eksygxronismos kai h epiteyjh ths diakladikothtas twn Enoplwn Dynamewn, pragma to opoio den isxye sto baqmo poy epiqymoysame mexri twra.

H dhmioyrgia stratoy dyo epipedwn, dhladh kai epaggelmatikoy, alla kai stratoy poy stelexwnetai apo polites poy yphretoyn me qhteia.

H stadiakh meiwsh ths qhteias, afoy qa exoyme anaptyjh toy legomenoy epaggelmatikoy stratoy.

-O ejorqologismos twn dapanwn stis Enoples Dynameis.

H amyntikh ypodomh toys, enocei twn anagkwn toy 21oy aiwna.

H dialeitoyrgikothta twn Enoplwn Dynamewn ths xwras mas sto eyrwpaikoy periballon, enocei ths dhmioyrgias toy eyrwpaikoy stratoy. Gnwrizete oti h prospaqeia poy kataballetai einai systhmatikh, wste to 2003 na exei dhmioyrghqei, na exei sygkekrimenh ypostash o eyrwpaikos stratos, stelexwmenos apo 60.000 melh.

Kai bebaiws h energos kai isotimh symmetoxh twn Enoplwn Dynamewn ths xwras mas se ayth thn politikh ths Eyrwphs gia thn koinh asfaleia kai amyna.

Sto plaisio ayto qa analhfqoyn oi aparaithtes nomoqetikes prwtoboylies kai bebaiws qa ginoyn oi anaqewrhseis kai oi allages sta opoia qesmika keimena einai aparaithto na ginoyn. Ayto htan to periexomeno ths shmerinhs synedriashs toy KYSEA. Ta qemata einai peripoy gnwsta se esas. Den proekyce kati kainoyrgio.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MPOYATAR: Mia dieykrinistikh erwthsh gia ta armata maxhs: Ayta einai toy prohgoymenoy programmatos 1996-2001.

REPPAS: Exoyme pragmati se ejelijh orismena programmata ta opoia aforoyn to EMPAE ths periodoy 1996-2000, to opoio den exei oloklhrwqei. Efarmozetai, dhladh, taytoxrona, parallhla ena tmhma ekeinoy toy programmatos kai to prwto tmhma toy neoy programmatos 2001-2005.

GROMAN: Hqela na rwthsw gia ta maxhtika 4hs genias. Gia to 2005 kai meta metatiqetai h apokthsh toys kai h ypografh twn symbolaiwn. Ayto qa afora sygkekrimena ta "Gioyrofaiter" h qa afora kapoio allo aeroplano 4hs genias;

REPPAS: H apofash poy exei labei to KYSEA, se palaioterh synedriash toy, stis arxes toy 2000, afora enan sygkekrimeno typo: ta "Gioyrofaiter". Paramenoyme se ayth thn apofash. Den exei synedriasei organo, wste na allajei ayth thn apofash. Ara, isxyei ayth h apofash.

SOYRMELIDHS: Gia th shmerinh apofash yparxei kaqysterhsh ypografwn gia th symmetoxh mas sto programma 'Gioyrofaiter". Kai ean meta qa eimaste aplws agorastes h qa mporoyme na symmetasxoyme sto programma;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti oi diapragmateyseis efqasan se ena orismeno epipedo. Th nea periodo, meta to 2004, oi diapragmateyseis qa janarxisoyn me bash ta dedomena ekeinhs ths epoxhs. Emeis paramenoyme -qeloyme na parameinoyme- se ayto to programma kai qa syzhthsoyme me toys paragwgoys me oroys kai proypoqeseis tetoies, wste na mporesoyme na eimaste parontes se ayto to ejoplistiko programma, oxi mono ws agorastes, alla kai ws symparagwgoi. Alla einai kati to opoio -epanalambanw- qa antimetwpisoyme tote. Shmera exoyme dedomenh thn politikh qesh. Ta praktika qemata, tis diapragmateyseis kai ta alla sxetika qa ta antimetwpisoyme tote.

ANTYPAS: Ayth h apofash gia ta"Gioyrofaiter" mporei na allajei mexri tote, ean den ikanopoihqoyme apo thn prosfora poy qa mas ginei;

REPPAS: Ayto einai mia ypoqesh dikh sas. Sas lew poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs. Einai ayth poy sas anefera. Paramenoyme sthn epilogh toy sygkekrimenoy typoy aeroskafoys, oson afora thn enisxysh ths Polemikhs Aeroporias ths xwras mas.

ANTYPAS: To 2005-2010 qa yparjei kai allo EMPAE;

REPPAS: Eipa oti oi dapanes aytes gia ejoplistika programmata sto ycos poy meiwnontai, dhladh, kata 1 tris draxmes, qa ginoyn thn periodo mexri to 2008. Aplws den qa ginoyn thn periodo mexri to 2005. Mporei na pei kaneis, ej aytoy toy logoy kai mono, afoy qa exoyme ejoplistiko programma se ejelijh ekeinh thn periodo, oti exoyme mia epektash sto EMPAE ths periodoy 2001-2005, gia to opoio exoyme apofasisei se genikes grammes. Ola ayta ta qemata tote qa antimetwpistoyn analogws twn synqhkwn ekeinhs ths periodoy kai twn anagkwn poy exoyn oi Enoples Dynameis ths xwras mas. Pisteyoyme, omws, oti me aytes tis promhqeies, me aytoys toys ejoplismoys exoyme fqasei se ena epipedo poy diasfalizei thn amyna ths xwras kai bebaiws kaqista tis Enoples Dynameis ikanes na antimetwpisoyn opoiadhpote ejwterikh epiboylh.

ANTYPAS: EMPAE 2005-2010 qa yparjei;

REPPAS: Eimaste sthn arxh toy EMPAE 2001-2205. To 1996-97 sas eixame anakoinwsei ean qa yparxei EMPAE meta to 2000;

ANTYPAS: Eixate pei oti qa yparxei kai epomeno.

REPPAS: Den eixame pei pote poio qa einai to epomeno EMPAE, oti qa yparxei EMPAE 2001-2005. Sas eipa oti pantote yparxei h anagkh gia ejoplismoys analogws twn synqhkwn, ths katastashs kai gi ayto akribws yparxei ayth h amyntikh strathgikh anaqewrhsh, prokeimenoy etsi se baqos xronoy na sxediazoyme thn politikh mas stis Enoples Dynameis.

ARGYROS: Exei ypologistei apo kapoio kybernhtiko organo poso qa einai h epibarynsh poy qa yparjei apo th metakinhsh toy ejoplistikoy programmatos, kai h epibarynsh poy qa yparjei epeidh qa paei pisw h agora twn "Gioyrofaiter";

REPPAS: Ayta einai qemata poy qa ta antimetwpisoyme ekeinh thn wra poy qa arxisoyn oi diapragmateyseis. Oydeis mporei na gnwrizei xwris na exei ginei kan h syzhthsh, poio qa einai to kostos gia thn agora aytoy toy maxhtikoy aeroskafoys.

ARGYROS: To teleytaio xroniko diasthma exoyn emfanistei polla kroysmata astynomikhs ayqairesias, xqes eixame allo ena kai yparxei kai diamartyria toy Proedroy ths Boylhs. Mhpws o ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs ektos apo tis diatages gia EDE qa mporoyse na kanei kai systaseis pros ta organa h isxyei akoma h frash toy k. Mhtsotakh "eseis eiste to kratos";

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti oi Ellhnes polites exoyn syntagmatika katoxyrwmena dikaiwmata, ta opoia prepei na ginontai sebasta apo oloys kai idiaitera apo ta organa ths ELAS. Alla, bebaiws, h Ellhnikh Astynomia prepei na leitoyrgei, kinoymenh sto plaisio toy Syntagmatos kai twn nomwn, kai kaqe organo ths na askei ta kaqhkonta toy sto plaisio ayto. Exoyn diataxqei EDE, otan diatypwnontai kataggelies kai bebaiws oi systaseis einai kati poy apotelei monimh politikh ths hgesias ths ELAS pros toys andres ths. Ayto poy exei shmasia einai na antilhfqoyme oloi oti o kaqenas prepei na askei ta kaqhkonta toy sebomenos to Syntagma kai toys nomoys, sebomenos ta dikaiwmata toy sympolith toy. Ayto einai o kanonas gia na mporesoyme na zoyme oloi armonika.

KARGOYDH: Oi diapragmateyseis se sxesh me to aeroskafos meshs metaforikhs ikanothtas kai to arma maxhs, poy einai se ejelijh, exoyn sygkekrimeno xroniko orizonta: Exei kaqoristei shmera an prokeitai na yparjei xronikos orizontas;

REPPAS: Den yparxei xronikos orizontas giati, opws antilambaneste, akomh kai o xronikos prosdiorismos einai ena stoixeio to opoio aptetai ths taktikhs poy akoloyqei enas diapragmateyths.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Einai qema merikwn mhnwn, eipe o k. Tsoxatzopoylos.

REPPAS: Asfalws afora mhnes, alla den einai dynato na orisoyme sygkekrimenh hmeromhnia, afoy to ejoplistiko programma gnwrizete poio orizonta exei.

KARGOYDH: Qa hqela to sxolio sas gia th xqesinh dhlwsh-katalhjh ths GSEE se sxesh me thn prosklhsh toy k. Giannitsh gia dialogo thn prosexh ebdomada.

REPPAS: To qema poy prepei na antimetwpisoyme kai na lysoyme einai meizon. Me ayth thn ennoia kalo einai na to proseggisoyme oxi mesw dhlwsewn kai sxoliwn epi twn prohgoymenwn dhlwsewn allwn paragontwn. Prepei na to proseggisoyme me eyqynh. Ayto shmainei oti h prwth synanthsh, h opoia exei prosdioristei gia thn epomenh ebdomada, prepei na apotelesei thn arxh gia mia nea periodo, wste me synennohsh, kalh pisth, endiaferon, kai eyaisqhsia apo oles tis pleyres na antimetwpistei to asfalistiko problhma kai na doqei lysh se ayto.

KARGOYDH: Ti ennoei h kybernhsh nea periodo; Pws kaqorizetai h nea periodos; Kapoioi lene oti qa einai mia typikh synanthsh abrofrosynhs.

REPPAS: Pisteyoyme oti oloi exoyn aisqhma eyqynhs kai oloi qa prospaqhsoyn sto plaisio ayths ths synanthshs na ajiopoihsoyn to pleonekthma ths epikoinwnias, giati kai ayto einai ena shmantiko pleonekthma, wste se ayth thn nea periodo poy exoyme mpei na syzhthsoyme nhfalia, cyxraima kai tekmhriwmena gia na broyme lysh kai oxi gia na dhmioyrgoyme entypwseis synqhmatologwntas. Ayth einai h qesh ths kybernhshs.

TAKHS: Me aformh thn ekqesh ths kas Karamanoy gia thn eisagwgh toy qematos poy afora to abato toy Agioy Oroys sth syzhthsh, peri dikaiwmatos twn gynaikwn, yparxei kapoia qesh ths kybernhshs h kapoia stigmh qa balei sto trapezi toy dialogoy ena tetoio qema;

REPPAS: Gia to qema ayto gnwrizete oti ginetai syzhthsh sthn Eyrwph, edw kai kairo. H kybernhsh den exei qesei tetoio qema, den thn exei apasxolhsei kai den protiqetai na qesei tetoio qema me dikh ths prwtoboylia.

KALARITHS: O k. Tsoxatzopoylos kateqese sto KYSEA kapoia stoixeia sxetika me thn oikonomikh epibarynsh poy qa prokycei apo th metaqesh toy programmatos "Gioyrofaiter h tis parenergeies se o,ti afora th symmetoxh mas;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti eixe prohghqei synergasia toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys ypoyrgoys Eqnikhs Amynas kai Eqnikhs Oikonomias. H eishghsh shmera kinhqhke sto plaisio poy sas anefera. Den mphkame se leptomereies, se ariqmhtika stoixeia, afoy h apofash poy eprokeito na labei to organo sth shmerinh synedriash toy htan dedomenh.

SOYRMELIDHS: Sto "PONTIKI" shmera dhmosieyetai reportaz gia to diafhmistiko fylladio gia thn Ellada poy kykloforei sthn Toyrkia. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw me poia krithria epilegei ayth h etaireia, poios synergasthke mazi toys me dedomeno kai ta apisteyta laqh poy yparxoyn se ayto to fylladio ta sxetika me onomasies k.lp.

REPPAS: Ayta profanws ginontai meta apo anoiktes diadikasies. Kaqe endiaferomenos mporei na proselqei kai na labei meros. Nomizw oti oi armodies yphresies qa prepei na elegjoyn aytoys poy eferan se peras to ergo poy toys anateqhke, ean to eferan me orqo h oxi tropo. Bebaiws, se aytes tis periptwseis yparxoyn pantote rhtres oi opoies mporei na isxysoyn.

ANTYPAS: Apo synergates toy ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Amynas, meta to KYSEA, mas epishmanqhke oti oi diapragmateyseis qa arxisoyn nwritera apo to 2004. Eseis lete oti akoma kai oi diapragmateyseis qa jekinhsoyn meta to 2004.

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti h ypografh twn sxetikwn symbasewn qa ginei meta to 2004. Kai se ayto eimai kathgorhmatikos.

BIDALH: Xqes, o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn meta to dhmosieyma gia to aithma twn Amerikanwn na symmetexoyn se ereynes k.lp. dhlwse apo thn Oyasigkton oti h antimetwpish ths tromokratias einai mia apo tis eqnikes proteraiothtes. Einai ontws eqnikh proteraiothta;

REPPAS: Edwsa xqes leptomereis apanthseis se polles erwthseis gi ayto to zhthma. Eipa oti h qesh ths kybernhshs einai safhs. H boylhsh mas einai isxyrh, h prospaqeia mas einai systhmatikh, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisoyme ayto to qema. Apo kai pera oi armodies yphresies ths xwras mas synergazontai me tis yphresies twn allwn xwrwn gia na fqasoyn ston koino skopo. H Ellada einai mia xwra asfalhs. Den prepei na dhmioyrgeitai h ceydhs eikona oti h xwra mas den parexei asfaleia stoys polites poy zoyn edw.

BIDALH: H erwthsh einai: To qewreite qema eqnikhs proteraiothtas;

REPPAS: Einai ena yparkto problhma. Gnwrizete oti sto plaisio ths politikhs poy akoloyqoyme h megisth proteraiothta gia mas, poia einai; Na anabaqmisoyme, na enisxysoyme akomh perissotero to koinwniko kratos. Ayto einai ena qema poy proexei sthn kybernhtikh atzenta. Epishs, na synexisoyme na anaptyssoyme prwtoboylies sthn perioxh se polymeres h dimeres epipedo. Na diathrhsoyme ayto to pleonekthma, askwntas ton prwtagwnistiko rolo mas. Alla, bebaiws, h antimetwpish ths tromokratias apo tis armodies yphresies einai ena ejairetika shmantiko zhthma, giati to problhma ayto einai yparkto.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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