Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-05-14

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 14 Maioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy ayth thn ebdomada:

Ayth thn wra, proedreyei sth synedriash ths Diypoyrgikhs Epitrophs me antikeimeno toys Olympiakoys Agwnes toy 2004.

Ayrio, stis 10:00, qa exei synergasia me kybernhtikoys kai kommatikoys paragontes, enocei ths periodeias toy sto nhsi ths Xioy. Argotera, stis 11:30, qa dexqei ton ypoyrgo Metaforwn kai Epikoinwniwn Xrhsto Berelh. Stis 12:30 qa dexqei thn Proedro ths Epitrophs gia ta Dikaiwmata toy Anqrwpoy kaqhghtria k. Maragkopoyloy, h opoia qa ton enhmerwsei gia to ergo ths Epitrophs. Stis 13:30, qa synergastei me ton yfypoyrgo Ergasias Xrhsto Prwtopapa kai me symboyloys toy, gia to ergo poy afora toys Olympiakoys Agwnes toy 2004, to Olympiako Xwrio. To apogeyma, stis 19:00, qa exei synergasia me ton ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynas Akh Tzoxatzopoylo.

Thn Tetarth, stis 12:00, qa dexqei ton ypoyrgo Anaptyjhs Niko Xristodoylakh. To brady, stis 21:00, o Prwqypoyrgos paraqetei dejiwsh stoys anqrwpoys twn grammatwn kai ths dianohshs.

Thn Pempth exete apergia. Qa epifylaxqw gia to programma mas, opws epishs kai gia thn Paraskeyh, to prwi, oson afora thn ``Wra toy Prwqypoyrgoy'' gia thn opoia qa sas enhmerwsw thn Tetarth.

H Prwqypoyrgos ths Neas Zhlandias k. Klark episkeptetai epishma thn Ellada. O Prwqypoyrgos qa thn ypodexqei thn Pempth. Oi synomilies qa ginoyn thn Paraskeyh, stis 12:00.

Ypenqymizw oti to Sabbato to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos anaxwrei, epikefalhs kybernhtikoy kai kommatikoy klimakioy, gia periodeia sth Xio. H periodeia qa diarkesei mexri thn Kyriakh to meshmeri.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, oi Toyrkoi apeiloyn jana. Den apodexontai thn apofash toy Dieqnoys Dikasthrioy twn Anqrwpinwn Dikaiwmatwn. O Ntenktas, xqes, se dhlwseis toy, mila gia dieqnes ``reziliki'', leei oti qa yparjei epideinwsh toy Kypriakoy meta apo ayth thn apofash, h de Agkyra, di epishmoy ekproswpoy ths, leei oti qa synexisei h Toyrkia thn idia politikh poy askei mexri shmera sto kypriako problhma. Dierwtwmai, an ayth thn arnhtikothta ths Toyrkias na dexqei tis apofaseis toy Dieqnoys Dikasthrioy, kai opws sas exw janarwthsei, kai tis apofaseis toy Symboylioy Asfaleias kai tis prohgoymenes apofaseis toy Dieqnoys Dikasthrioy gia th Loizidoy, ti qa ginei, poy qa odhghqoyme; Den qa apodexetai tis apofaseis twn Dieqnwn Dikasthriwn;

REPPAS: H Toyrkia xrhsimopoiei mia glwssa kai akoloyqei mia politikh, h opoia thn odhgei se adiejodo. Pisteyw oti den exei didaxqei tipota, apo th stash poy akoloyqei mexri twra. Ayto, omws, poy apotelei pragmatikothta einai toyto: Gia to kypriako zhthma einai ekteqeimenh se polla epipeda. H efarmogh ayths ths poly shmantikhs, ths istorikhs shmasias apofashs toy Eyrwpaikoy Dikasthrioy afora prwta kai kyria thn Toyrkia. Qa prepei na sebastei ayth thn apofash. Bebaiws, ayth h apofash afora kai to dieqnh paragonta sto synolo toy. Giati osoi qewroyn oti h dieqnhs ennomh tajh prepei na ginetai sebasth, exoyn logo -askwntas thn opoia epirroh exoyn sta organa ths Toyrkias- na symbaloyn, wste na ginei dekth kai na efarmostei ayth h apofash. Allos dromos den yparxei. Pisteyoyme oti gia mia akomh fora apodeiknyetai oti h Toyrkia dexetai thn kritikh kai thn apodokimasia ths dieqnoys koinothtas, giati h apofash toy Eyrwpaikoy Dikasthrioy einai, mporei na pei kaneis, kai h ekfrash ths dieqnoys apodokimasias pros thn Toyrkia gia th stash ths.

KWSTANTHS: Poio einai to sxolio ths kybernhshs gia th nea dhmoskophsh poy deixnei ta idia me tis prohgoymenes kai oti yparxei mia megalh diafora pleon, metajy ths N.D. kai toy PASOK kai epiprosqetws, an me ayth thn asxhmh eikona poy paroysiazetai stis dhmoskophseis, syndeetai kai h teleytaia apofash toy Prwqypoyrgoy na probainei se sklhres epiqeseis pros th N.D., kanontas anafores kai sto parelqon.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti oi dhmoskophseis aytes exoyn ginei se ena dysmenes politiko periballon gia mas. Einai gnwsto -kai emeis to exoyme anagnwrisei- oti eginan laqh, oson afora ena zhthma poy einai kefalaiwdoys shmasias gia th zwh twn Ellhnwn. Pisteyoyme oti ta apotelesmata aytwn twn dhmoskophsewn den einai tipote allo, para h apotypwsh ths dysareskeias twn politwn gi` ayth th stash mas, gia toys xeirismoys poy eginan sto sygkekrimeno qema. Pisteyoyme, loipon, oti ayth h parenqesh -giati mporw na milhsw gia parenqesh sthn poreia toy kybernhtikoy ergoy- kleinei. Apo ekei kai pera, emeis, kinoymenoi sto pedio ths pragmatikothtas, me to ergo mas, symfwna me thn entolh poy exoyme apo ton ellhniko lao, antapokrinomenoi se ayth thn entolh, qa bohqhsoyme, wste poly grhgora kai pali na fanei oti h kybernhsh kai to PASOK exoyn tis lyseis sta opoia problhmata apasxoloyn th xwra.

H stash toy Prwqypoyrgoy einai stash enos ypeyqynoy politikoy, o opoios temnei thn pragmatikothta, anadeiknyei ton proodeytiko kai dikaio xarakthra ths protashs ths kybernhshs gia ena sygkekrimeno zhthma. Parallhla, exoyme epignwsh twn problhmatwn kai twn dyskoliwn. Anagnwrizoyme ta laqh poy kanoyme kai gi` ayto, akribws, prosferoyme ola ta exeggya, wste emeis na eimaste ekeinoi poy qa mporoyme na antapokriqoyme sthn proklhsh twn kairwn, dhladh na antimetwpisoyme kai na lysoyme ta problhmata. Alloi parelqontologoyn, ekeinoi poy parapempoyn sthn orqothta mias politikhs protashs, anaferomenoi sthn politikh poy akoloyqhqhke tis prohgoymenes dekaeties. Ara, loipon, "boytia sto parelqon" kanoyn alloi. Prepei na pw oti oi epishmanseis aytes aforoyn to shmera kai to ayrio ths xwras. Asfalws, einai didaktikh h empeiria toy parelqontos, gi` ayto ginetai anafora kai se aythn. Shmasia, omws, exei poia einai h protash poy kaqe komma kataqetei shmera gia ta megala problhmata ths xwras. Emeis -einai fanero ayto se oloys- exoyme gia kaqe qema mia poly ypeyqynh protash, thn opoia qetoyme sto trapezi toy dialogoy. Opws kai gia to asfalistiko zhthma, qeloyme sto trapezi toy dialogoy na teqoyn oles oi apoceis, oles oi protaseis, wste mesa apo th dhmioyrgikh synqesh toys na katalhjoyme sthn kalyterh lysh.

MIXAHL: Kat` epanalhch sto parelqon, otan erwthqhkate gia dhmoskophseis kai ta apotelesmata toys, legate oti oi dhmoskophseis ekfrazoyn th stigmiaia antidrash twn erwthqentwn kai oti to zhtoymeno einai oti, telos pantwn, me tis ekloges mporei to PASOK na anakamcei kai na jeperasei tis dysmeneis probleceis twn dhmoskophsewn. Xanete, omws, ena sygkritiko pleonekthma poy eixan oles oi alles dhmoskophseis gia ton k. Shmith, oti par` olo ayto to dysmenes klima, htan pantote prwtos stis protimhseis gia Prwqypoyrgos. Twra, fainetai oti den einai, kai o k. Karamanlhs leei oti qa einai o epomenos prwqypoyrgos. Pws to sxoliazete ayto;

REPPAS: Prwton, oti to pleonekthma ayto den fainetai na to xanei o Prwqypoyrgos, akomh kai sto plaisio twn dhmoskophsewn. Paramenei sthn prwth grammh epiloghs twn politwn, oson afora thn katallhlothta toy ws politikoy gia na odhghsei th xwra ta epomena xronia. Deyteron, gnwrizete poly kala -pantote to legame- oti thn wra ths kalphs epibebaiwqhkan oi dikes mas probleceis kai oxi oi probleceis twn dhmoskophsewn poy eixan apotypwsei thn peristasiakh diaqesh ths koinhs gnwmhs kai oxi thn politikh epilogh poy kanei o poliths, proserxomenos sthn kalph twn eklogwn. Kai se teleytaia analysh, polles fores akoyme apo politikoys ths N.D. na aytoxrizontai "en dynamei prwqypoyrgoi", "en anamonh prwqypoyrgoi", "epomenoi prwqypoyrgoi" k.t.l. kai telikws na einai oi prohgoymenoi arxhgoi ths N.D.

MIXAHL: Kai kati akomh: O k. Shmiths eipe ayta poy eipe sth Boylh kai epanelabe sto anoixto Synedrio ths Neolaias toy PASOK. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, politika kai praktika, ti einai ayto to kainoyrgio poy proteinei h Kybernhsh, pera apo thn kritikh, poy eipate oti xreiazetai...

REPPAS: H kybernhsh qetei ton daktylo epi ton typon twn hlwn. Gnwrizete kala oti exoyme na xeiristoyme ena poly shmantiko zhthma poy afora oloys toys ergazomenoys. Pisteyw oti to asfalistiko zhthma einai problhma poy prepei na syzhthqei kai na lyqei, xwris oi syzhthseis sto trapezi toy koinwnikoy dialogoy na apotelesoyn pedio gia thn anadeijh nikhtwn kai htthmenwn. Qewroyme, loipon, oti ayto to opoio proteinoyme emeis einai kai to politika orqo kai to koinwnika dikaio. Mesa apo mia dhmokratikh diadikasia koinwnikoy dialogoy na anazhthsoyme lysh. H lysh ayth qa prepei na diapneetai apo orismenes arxes, opws ayth ths koinwnikhs dikaiosynhs, ths allhleggyhs twn genewn kai asfalws, ths bebaiothtas poy prepei na exei o kaqe poliths gia to poia syntajh kai to pote qa thn parei. Ola ayta einai qemata poy deixnoyn me posh ypeyqynothta proseggizoyme kai antimetwpizoyme ta zhthmata poy apasxoloyn toys polites. Ayto einai to montelo diakybernhshs poy proteinoyme. Den prokeitai gia kati kainoyrgio. Einai to montelo to opoio xarakthrizei th diakybernhsh toy topoy ta teleytaia xronia. Kai apodeiknyetai oti htan epityxhmeno, an krinoyme apo thn chfo toy ellhnikoy laoy pros to PASOK.

BITALHS: Sthn teleytaia dhmoskophsh, pera apo ta osa anefere o synadelfos, yparxoyn kai kapoia alla stoixeia, ta opoia, nomizw, oti prepei na sas problhmatisoyn: Opws gia paradeigma, oti to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs fainetai na sygkentrwnei tis protimhseis twn politwn, ws kalytero na diaxeiristei megala qemata, opws einai h anergia, h oikonomia, poy einai ena basiko pleonekthma mexri shmera ths kybernhshs k.t.l. Gi` ayta, ti apantate;

REPPAS: Apantw oti oi dhmoskophseis tis opoies prosexoyme kai meletoyme, mas problhmatizoyn, alla den mas aixmalwtizoyn. Otan anagnwrizoyme oti exoyme kanei lanqasmenoys xeirismoys se ena shmantiko zhthma, antilambaneste pws ayth h proslambanoysa twn politwn toys odhgei sto na diatypwnoyn qesh amfibolias, gia to an mporoyme na xeiristoyme shmantika qemata poy aforoyn th zwh toys. Sas eipa, loipon, oti ayto, kata th dikh mas apoch, apotelei mia parenqesh h opoia kleinei. Syntoma qa exoyme th dynatothta na miloyme se nea bash. Ayto to opoio, se teleytaia analysh, exei shmasia, einai na oloklhrwsoyme to ergo mas me synepeia pros tis eklogikes ejaggelies mas kai sth bash aytoy toy ergoy qa kriqoyme. Kai pisteyw oti qa kriqoyme, apokomizontas gia mia akomh fora, th qetikh chfo, thn empistosynh twn politwn, thn wra ths kalphs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, eipate oti exete mia ypeyqynh protash. Poia einai ayth;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti emeis gi ayto to qema to opoio einai poly shmantiko anaqesame se enan jeno oiko na katartisei mia meleth. Sto plaisio ayths ths meleths kinhqhkame, ajiologwntas ta opoia stoixeia. Kaname mia kat` arxas proseggish, diatypwnontas apo thn prwth stigmh th qesh oti den eimaste dogmatikoi, oti den apotelei qesfato ayth h prwth topoqethsh. Eimaste anoixtoi se dialogo, etoimoi na dexqoyme kaqe epoikodomhtikh protash. Anamenoyme, loipon, tis protaseis twn allwn forewn. H syzhthsh, h opoia sto metajy exei ginei, apo th stigmh dhladh ekeinh mexri shmera sth dhmosia sfaira, exei bohqhsei na katanohsoyme olo kai perissotero thn krisimothta toy zhthmatos. Kai blepete oti ena qema poy mexri tote yphrxe aplws sthn atzenta twn pollwn qematwn, shmera einai ena qema poy oloi oi foreis, se opoia pleyra kai an anhkoyn, omologoyn pws prepei na antimetwpistei kai na doqei lysh. Den prepei na afeqei na xronisei. Ayto, loipon, pisteyoyme oti apotelei ena prwto epiteygma, h syneidhtopoihsh dhladh ths krisimothtas toy qematos. Apo ekei kai pera, sas eipa oti emeis den qa dwsoyme diadikastiko alloqi se opoiondhpote, epeidh epiqymoyme thn anazhthsh lyshs me synainetiko tropo. Me bash tis arxes, opws tis anefera prin, zhtoyme sto plaisio aytoy toy koinwnikoy dialogoy, o opoios eyelpistoyme na arxisei grhgora, na akoystoyn oles oi apoceis, prokeimenoy na katalhjoyme sthn koinh qesh. Giati epiqymoyme me synainetiko tropo na katalhjoyme se mia lysh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayth thn ypeyqynh protash poy lete, oi foreis thn qewroyn aneyqynh, thn aposyrete;

REPPAS: Ma, an qewroysame oti h protash ayth einai h monadikh lysh toy problhmatos@

STAMATOPOYLOS: Etsi eipate.

REPPAS: Kanete terastio laqos. Eipame oti metajy twn protasewn poy exoyn diatypwqei mia exei thn kat` arxas protimhsh ths kybernhshs ws enaysma gia na jekinhsei o dialogos. Apo ekei kai pera, eipame oti den einai qesfato h qesh ayth. Eimaste anoixtoi sto dialogo, etoimoi na yioqethsoyme kaqe allh epoikodomhtikh protash. Hrqe h wra, loipon, na diatypwqoyn oles oi protaseis. Ayto to opoio tote eipame qa to thrhsoyme me synepeia. Symmetexontas se ayto to dialogo qa yioqethsoyme kaqe apoch, h opoia qa antapokrinetai se aytes tis arxes kai qa dinei lysh sto problhma. Ayth einai h epidiwjh mas.

KAPPOS: Yparxei ena qema to opoio exei episyrei thn orgh kai ths koinoboyleytikhs antipoliteyshs kai ths ejwkoinoboyleytikhs. Anaferomai sto zhthma twn prosfygwn gia ta ejoda ypochfiwn boyleytwn. Ayto to zhthma einai arketa megalo, eidika gia toys ypochfioys twn ejwkoinoboyleytikwn kommatwn, oi opoioi den eixan kaqoloy proswpika ejoda proeklogika kai kaloyntai twra na plhrwsoyn prostima ths tajhs dekadwn ekatommyriwn draxmwn h kai kommata ta opoia kaloyntai na plhrwsoyn prostima ths tajhs ekatontadwn ekatommyriwn draxmwn.

REPPAS: To qema ayto afora mia koinoboyleytikh diadikasia. Exei chfistei kai efarmosthke prwth fora o sygkekrimenos nomos. Sas parapempw sth dhlwsh poy ekana gia to qema ayto thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, opws kai stis poly shmantikes kai oysiastikes dhlwseis poy ekane o Proedros ths Boylhs, o opoios problhmatizomenos mazi me polloys alloys poy diatypwsan analoges apoceis proteinei na yparjei enas neos kyklos syzhthsewn gia thn antimetwpish toy sygkekrimenoy qematos me beltiwsh toy yfistamenoy qesmikoy plaisioy. Ayto einai ena qema poy qa apasxolhsei th Boylh kai ta organa ths.

KAPPOS: Dikaiwmatika qewrei h kybernhsh oti to proeklogiko kai to meteklogiko paixnidi ginetai epi isois orois anamesa sta koinoboyleytika kai ta ejwkoinoboyleytika kommata;

REPPAS: To politiko paixnidi ginetai, opws se oles tis xwres ths Eyrwphs, me dhmokratikoys oroys.

KARGOYDH: Eipate oti kleinei h parenqesh, dhladh ths dysmenoys tashs ths koinhs gnwmhs enanti toy kommatos sas. Exw thn entypwsh oti ayth h dysmenhs tash den sxetizetai apokleistika me to asfalistiko, sxetizetai genikotera me thn eikona ths kybernhshs sas kai eidikotera me thn prwth parembash sas. Otan lete kleinei h parenqesh, tote kaneis ypoqetei oti allazete rota. Alliws, pws dhladh ektimate oti kleinei;

REPPAS: Egw anaferomai sto asfalistiko. Eseis den dexeste oti ayto afora mono to asfalistiko. Oson afora to asfalistiko anagnwrizoyme oti eginan lanqasmenoi xeirismoi kai oti epixeiroyme mia nea proseggish me enan allo tropo, prokeimenoy na fqasoyme pantws se ena orqo apotelesma. Apo ekei kai pera eseis kanete tis kriseis sas.

Eyxaristw poly.

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