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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 7 Maioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Gnwrizete oti o Prwqypoyrgos, epikefalhs kommatikhs antiproswpeias, brisketai sto Berolino. Symmetexei sto Synedrio toy Eyrwpaikoy Sosialistikoy Kommatos.

Thn Tetarth qa synedriasei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, me antikeimeno syzhthshs thn poreia toy kybernhtikoy ergoy.

Thn Pempth, o Prwqypoyrgos qa milhsei sth Boylh, sto plaisio ths pro hmerhsias diatajhs syzhthsh se epipedo arxhgwn, gia thn oikonomia. Th sxetikh aithsh gia th syzhthsh ayth -ypenqymizw- eixe kataqesei h Nea Dhmokratia.

Thn Paraskeyh, o Prwqypoyrgos qa labei meros sto anoikto synedrio ths Neolaias toy PASOK, opoy kai qa ekfwnhsei logo.

Qa moy epitrecete na kanw ena sxolio gia tis ejelijeis sto geitoniko kratos twn Skopiwn. H anazwpyrwsh ths krishs prokalei kindynoys gia th staqerothta sth xwra ayth. Exoyme empistosynh stoys xeirismoys ths kybernhshs twn Skopiwn. Parakoloyqoyme tis ejelijeis me idiaitero endiaferon. O dieqnhs paragontas, h E.E. kai to NATO exoyn energopoihqei kai oi ekproswpoi toys briskontai ekei. Pisteyoyme oti h ejelijh kai oloklhrwsh toy dialogoy metajy twn politikwn dynamewn sto geitoniko kratos mporei na odhghsei se asfalh apotelesmata, prokeimenoy etsi na ejaleifqoyn oristika kai dia pantos oi esties krishs, poy otan anazwpyrwnontai dhmioyrgoyn kindynoys gia thn perioxh. Qa parakoloyqhsoyme apo konta tis ejelijeis, prosferontas tis kales yphresies mas, opws kanoyme mexri twra.

Qa moy epitrecete, epishs, na kanw ena sxolio meta thn oloklhrwsh ths episkechs toy Pontifika sthn Ellada. To symperasma poy oloi bgazoyn einai ena: Oloi wfelhqhkan apo thn episkech ayth. Wfelhqhke h xwra mas, giati edeije oti mporei na antapokriqei stis anagkes mias toso shmantikhs episkechs na antimetwpisei kai na lysei ta problhmata poy prokaloyntai se aytes tis periptwseis. Epishs, oi hgesies twn dyo Ekklhsiwn exoyn wfelhqei para poly, giati pisteyoyme oti h bash ths koinhs poreias, prokeimenoy na antimetwpistoyn apo koinoy ta qemata poy apasxoloyn toys pistoys h toys ekproswpoys twn Ekklhsiwn, den mporei na einai allh apo to dialogo kai thn epikoinwnia. Pisteyoyme, loipon, oti htan pollapla wfelimh h episkech toy Pontifika sthn Ellada.

Oson afora thn periodeia toy arxhgoy ths N.D. sth Qrakh kai tis dhlwseis poy ekane gia diafora qemata, qa moy epitrecete epishs na kanw ena apanthtiko sxolio kai na pw oti o k. Karamanlhs epanalambanei toys ceydeis kai astoxoys isxyrismoys toy kai epanalambanetai kai o idios ws politikos twn logwn. Idiws, otan proswpopoiei toys politikoys ths stoxoys h N.D., apokalyptei kai thn poiothta ths politikhs poy akoloyqei. Gnwrizete poly kala, oti h kybernhsh toy PASOK einai ayth poy exei analabei seira qesmikwn kai allwn prwtoboyliwn gia thn Aytodioikhsh, thn apokentrwsh, thn endynamwsh kai anaptyjh ths ellhnikhs ypaiqroy. Gnwrizete, epishs, oti sto plaisio toy g@ sxedioy anaptyjhs ths xwras, toy G@ KPS, exoyme desmeytei -kai ayto ginetai prajh- na dioxeteysoyme to 80% toy synoloy twn kondyliwn sthn ellhnikh perifereia, gia na epitaxynoyme toys ryqmoys anaptyjhs twn eparxiwn ths xwras mas. H N.D., h opoia katadikase me thn politikh ths thn ellhnikh eparxia epi polla xronia, twra katadikazei oristika kai ton eayto ths sto rolo toy ypokrith kai toy anajiopistoy kathgoroy twn allwn.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

XRHSTAKOS: Epibebaiwnete tis plhrofories poy anaferoyn oti o Prwqypoyrgos eixe mia syntomh epikoinwnia me ton Arxiepiskopo Xristodoylo kai an qa yparjei synanthsh, an yparxei kati tetoio ston orizonta;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, prepei na epanalaboyme ayto poy einai hdh gnwsto: Den yparxei kanena qema, oson afora tis sxeseis ths Politeias me thn Ekklhsia. To qema ths anagrafhs toy qrhskeymatos sto deltio astynomikwn taytothtwn gnwrizete oti exei antimetwpistei kai exei lyqei apo thn pleyra ths Politeias. Kata ta alla, oi diayloi epikoinwnias prepei na meinoyn anoiktoi, prokeimenoy na antimetwpistoyn epi ths oysias diafora alla poly shmantika zhthmata poy aforoyn kai thn Ekklhsia kai thn Politeia. Asfalws, me thn eykairia ths episkechs toy Papa sthn Ellada, oi dyo andres antallajan ena xairetismo. Ayto, omws, den prepei na odhgei sthn ejagwgh allwn symperasmatwn.

XRHSTAKOS: Qa yparjei synanthsh@;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti ayto den prepei na sas odhgei sthn ejagwgh allwn symperasmatwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh arketoi boyleytes toy PASOK bgainoyn kai amfisbhtoyn ton Prwqypoyrgo, mhpws zhthsei chfo empistosynhs apo th Boylh;

REPPAS: Den tiqetai tetoio qema. O Prwqypoyrgos den exei logoys na probei se mia tetoia energeia. Einai dedomenh kai aytonohth h sthrijh ths koinoboyleytikhs pleiochfias pros thn kybernhsh kai ton Prwqypoyrgo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean paramenei akoma o k. Katsanebas sthn koinoboyleytikh omada toy PASOK.

REPPAS: Ayto einai qema to opoio prepei na qesete ston k. Katsaneba. Gnwrizw, omws, oti paramenei kai sthrizei thn kybernhsh kai ton Prwqypoyrgo me thn chfo toy.

SOYGLERHS: Feygontas o Prwqypoyrgos gia to Berolino, sas edwse entolh na kanete kapoio sxolio gia dhlwseis poy ekanan ypoyrgoi to Sabbatokyriako se efhmerides, oti den yparxei enothta kai apodoxh toy Prwqypoyrgoy k.t.l.;

REPPAS: Kat` arxhn, prepei na sas pw oti o tropos ton opoio perigrafete den einai aytos me ton opoio epikoinwnei o Prwqypoyrgos. Deyteron, akoma ki an aytos htan o tropos, den eixe logoys na probei se tetoies ypodeijeis ayth th stigmh. Gnwrizete poly kala oti -kai egw eimai ypoyrgos- oloi oi synadelfoi, me allhleggyh, kaqenas apo th dikh toy pleyra, prospaqoyme na symbaloyme, wste na antimetwpisoyme me epityxia ta problhmata ayths ths periodoy. H kybernhsh pantote brisketai antimetwph me proklhseis. Mexri twra, exei deijei oti ta katafernei. Gi` ayto, allwste, o ellhnikos laos epidokimazei me thn chfo toy thn kybernhsh mas gia polla xronia. Qa ta kataferoyme kai apenanti se ayto to neo problhma, to opoio -qa moy epitrecete na pw- afora kyriws emas, jekina apo emas kai qa prepei emeis, gia mia akomh fora, na deijoyme ws kybernhsh kai ws PASOK bebaiws -giati to PASOK einai to kybernhtiko komma- oti exoyme ta antanaklastika, tis ikanothtes, alla kai oles tis proypoqeseis gia na antimetwpisoyme tis proklhseis twn kairwn. Exoyme aytes tis proypoqeseis kai prepei na tis ajiopoihsoyme. Ayto menei na kanoyme kai qa to kanoyme. Na eiste sigoyros.

SOYGLERHS: Dhladh, na perimenoyme kapoies kinhseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy...;

REPPAS: Qa elega na perimenete tria xronia akoma, mexri tis epomenes ekloges, opoy kai pali qa epanabebaiwqei h politikh, ideologikh kai programmatikh yperoxh toy PASOK, ara kai h eklogikh nikh toy.

MIXAHL: Afoy mas eipate oti oloi wfelhqhkan apo thn episkech toy Papa, synepws ektima h kybernhsh oti htan poly qetikh h prwtoboylia toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias na ton kalesei sthn Ellada;

REPPAS: Pragmatika, h prosklhsh poy aphyqyne o Proedros ths Dhmokratias pros ton Papa, htan mia swsth energeia. Apo ekei kai pera, ek twn ysterwn, krinontas thn episkech ayth apo ta apotelesmata, mporoyme na poyme oti pragmatika h prosklhsh ayth htan mia kinhsh poy bohqhse poly oxi mono tis dyo Ekklhsies, alla kai th xwra mas.

MIXAHL: Prohgoymenws sas rwthsan an o k. Shmiths prokeitai na synanthqei me ton k. Xristodoylo. Oi plhrofories epimenoyn oti prepei na ta poyn kai anamenetai h prwtoboylia ayths ths neas synanthshs. Yparxei tetoio endexomeno;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti to plaisio gia thn epikoinwnia kai to dialogo einai dedomeno. Pantote yphrxan aytes oi dynatothtes. Den einai kati to opoio prokyptei twra ws neo stoixeio. Apo ekei kai pera, qa moy epitrecete na pw oti den yparxei kati diaforetiko apo ayto poy mexri twra gnwrizete. Emeis eimaste etoimoi na antimetwpisoyme ta diafora qemata kaq` oson mas aforoyn. Ayto, bebaiws, prepei na ginei me syntetagmeno tropo.

MIXAHL: Xqes, diabasame dhmosieymata, oti h kybernhsh sto asfalistiko fernei dia toy ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Oikonomias mia nea protash, xrhmatodothsh, mesw eqnikoy kefalaioy kai apodosh twn porwn. Thn epibebaiwnete h th diaceydete ayth thn plhroforia;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, exoyme pei, oti prepei na ginei enas kalopistos kai eilikrinhs dialogos gia to asfalistiko, ef` olhs ths ylhs, xwris proapaitoymena. To trapezi toy dialogoy einai eyryxwro kai filojeno. Se ayto exoyn qesh oles oi apoceis kai oles oi protaseis. H kybernhsh, idiaiterws oi armodioi Ypoyrgoi, exoyn kaqe logo na einai parontes kai na parembainoyn me dhmioyrgiko tropo, prokeimenoy na anazhthsoyme kai na ejeyroyme thn kalyterh lysh. Oi skeceis poy diatypwnontai apo thn pleyra toy ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Oikonomias exoyn kai aytes th qesh toys sto trapezi toy dialogoy. Exoyme pei oti o dialogos qa jekinhsei me thn prosklhsh poy qa apeyqynei sta syndikata kai toys koinwnikoys foreis o armodios Ypoyrgos Ergasias. Mexri tote pisteyoyme oti prepei na dhmioyrghqei kai na kallierghqei ena klima epikoinwnias kai dialogoy, to opoio qa bohqhsei para poly, wste otan arxisei me syntetagmeno tropo o epishmos dialogos, na yparxei h kalopistia kai h diaqesh ekeinh poy qa bohqhsei, wste na proxwrhsoyme se synennohsh kai synainesh gia thn antimetwpish toy koinoy problhmatos.

MIXAHL: Na ypoqesoyme pws to gegonos oti o k. Shmiths synodeyetai sto Berolino apo ton k. Skandalidh, ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo kai alla kommatika stelexh poy ejefrasan th diafwnia toys gia toys xeirismoys -anaferomai ston k. Mwraith- na ypoqesoyme, loipon, oti sto periqwrio ginontai kai kapoies diaboyleyseis, oxi toso gia na apokatastaqei mono to klima sto eswteriko toy PASOK, oso kai gia na mhn janaexoyme xeirismoys san ki aytoys poy eidame thn teleytaia fora...

REPPAS: H antiproswpeia toy PASOK poy pairnei meros sto Synedrio toy Eyrwpaikoy Sosialistikoy Kommatos, einai kommatikh. Pisteyw oti analogws toy programmatos toy -giati exei ena arketa fortwmeno programma symmetexontas se ayto to Synedrio- mporei na ajiopoihsei th dynatothta poy qa toy prosferqei, prokeimenoy na epikoinwnhsei me ta 14 stelexh poy -opws gnwrizete- symmetexoyn se ayth thn antiproswpeia. Ws gnwston oi chfoi toy PASOK einai 14.

GIANNISHS: Apo thn hmera poy synedriase to teleytaio E.G. mexri shmera, exoyn diarreysei stis efhmerides dialogoi gia epikriseis kata toy ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Oikonomias k. Papantwnioy. O k. Papantwnioy ejakoloyqei na apolambanei ths empistosynhs toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

REPPAS: O k. Papantwnioy apolambanei ths empistosynhs toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai olwn mas.

KAPPOS: Oson afora ta Skopia, sthn empistosynh poy ekfrasate prohgoymenws gia toys xeirismoys ths kybernhshs ths FYROM, symperilambanetai kai h empistosynh, ws pros th boylhsh ayths ths kybernhshs, na proxwrhsei se khryjh katastashs polemoy sthn perioxh toy Koymanobo;

REPPAS: Einai dedomeno oti exoyme empistosynh sthn kybernhsh twn Skopiwn kai stoys xeirismoys ths. Pisteyoyme oti ayth thn wra oloi -ki emeis ayto kanoyme- qa prepei na sthrijoyme tis prospaqeies ths kybernhshs toy geitonikoy kratoys gia na antimetwpisei kai na lysei ayth thn krish. Kata ta alla, yparxei anoikth gefyra epikoinwnias sto plaisio ths opoias antallassontai diafores apoceis. Oi epiloges poy kanei h geitonikh kybernhsh qa einai oi kalyteres me gnwmona oxi mono to symferon toy geitonikoy kratoys, alla kai to symferon ths eyryterhs perioxhs. Kyriws, omws, proexei to symferon twn politwn poy zoyn se ayto to kratos. Pisteyw oti ayto einai to periexomeno kai o stoxos toy dialogoy metajy twn kommatwn kai twn politikwn dynamewn toy geitonikoy kratoys.

KAPPOS: Se sxesh me thn episkech toy Papa sthn Aqhna exei h kybernhsh th synaisqhsh toy poses polles diatajeis toy Syntagmatos parabiase kai posa atomika kai syllogika dikaiwmata parabiase me thn katastash ``poliorkias'' poy dhmioyrghqhke sthn Aqhna, thn Paraskeyh kai to Sabbato;

REPPAS: Oloi anagnwrizoyn pws h episkech toy Papa sthn Ellada, apo opoia pleyra ki an thn proseggisei h thn analysei kaneis, qa katalhjei sto symperasma oti synebale, metajy twn allwn, kai sthn prowqhsh toy eqnikoy symferontos. Anedeije thn eikona mias xwras poy einai filojenh, mias xwras poy ypodexetai enan poly shmantiko paragonta me dieqnh aktinobolia kai toy apodidei tis times poy armozoyn sto ajiwma kai to rolo toy. Ayto einai poly shmantiko. Kata ta alla, oydeis eqese allo tetoio qema, aporw pws to qetete ki eseis.

KAPPOS: To qetw kai anarwtiemai, an kaqe fora...

REPPAS: Gnwrizoyme oloi oti se ektaktes peristaseis, opws h sygkekrimenh, lambanontai aysthra metra perifroyrhshs twn dhmosiwn xwrwn, metra tajhs kai asfaleias, kati to opoio problepetai apo to Syntagma. Oydeis eqese opoiodhpote qema periorismoy twn dikaiwmatwn toy, para to oti anagnwrizoyme pws polloi poy zoyn sthn Aqhna talaipwrhqhkan. Zhtoyme syggnwmh, alla ayto htan h anapofeykth synepeia twn metrwn poy eprepe na lhfqoyn gia na antimetwpisoyme ta problhmata, ta opoia ek twn pragmatwn prokyptoyn, sto plaisio mias tetoias poly shmantikhs episkechs. Oydeis eqese tetoio qema.

IWANNOY: Ejetazei h kybernhsh to endexomeno prowrhs prosfyghs stis kalpes h einai kati to opoio o Prwqypoyrgos exei apokleisei;

REPPAS: Einai kati poy den tiqetai oyte kan ws skech. Gnwrizete oti exoyme entolh na kybernhsoyme kai na efarmosoyme ena sygkekrimeno programma gia thn oloklhrwsh toy koinwnikoy kratoys. Emeis me ayth th shmaia poreyomaste sto plaisio ayths ths qhteias mas. Qa antapokriqoyme sthn entolh toy ellhnikoy laoy kai otan erqei h wra na kanoyme logariasmo me to ``jenodoxo'', na eiste sigoyroi oti o logariasmos qa einai qetikos gia emas.

KAPPOS: Epeidh anaferqhkate sto qema twn taytothtwn, exete ypoch sas oti h dhmosia Arxh -kai anaferomai sto ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn, alla me thn ennoia ths dhmosias arxhs- proxwrei se diagwnismo, kata ton opoio zhta apo toys ypochfioys mia seira apo proswpika dedomena, toso sthn aithsh, oso kai se mia seira apo ypeyqynes dhlwseis poy qa prepei na kataqesoyn oi ypochfioi, anaferomai kai sto qrhskeyma..;

REPPAS: Prepei na sas pw oti polles yphresies, eite ajiologoyn toys ypallhloys toys, eite otan prokeitai na proslaboyn stelexh, exoyn endiaferon na gnwrizoyn stoixeia, ta opoia sygkrotoyn thn proswpikothta toys. Apo kei kai pera, ayta den prepei na dhmosiopoioyntai. Alla, to plaisio aytwn twn diadikasiwn, gnwrizete oti, perigrafetai me tetoio tropo, wste na einai se armonia me to plaisio poy afora thn prostasia twn proswpikwn dedomenwn, etsi opws ta exei prosdiorisei h Anejarthth Arxh, me bash to nomo poy exoyme chfisei.

Sas eyxaristw.

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