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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 6 Aprilioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Gnwrizete oti shmera oloklhrwnontai sth Boylh oi diadikasies gia thn anaqewrhsh diatajewn toy Syntagmatos. Meta tis omilies twn politikwn arxhgwn qa akoloyqhsei h sxetikh chfoforia. Einai mia koryfaia stigmh oxi mono gia th Boylh, alla gia th dhmokratia sthn patrida mas, doqentos oti gia prwth fora, edw kai para polla xronia, ginetai mia toso ektetamenh, plhrhs, systhmatikh proseggish diatajewn toy Syntagmatos, sthn kateyqynsh allaghs toys. Pisteyoyme, oti o dhmosios bios, h dhmokratia, h xwra mas, me to neo syntagmatiko xarth poy qa prokycei qa einai perissotero qwrakismenh, pio prohgmenh, pio sygxronh, wste na antimetwpisei tis proklhseis twn kairwn.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MPOTWNHS: Ta metra poy anakoinwse h kybernhsh xreiazontai politikh hremia gia na efarmostoyn. Sto kybernwn komma den yparxei ayth h hremia shmera. Yparxoyn antiqeseis, antiparaqeseis, dhlwseis, diadoxologia. Pws, loipon, me ola ayta mporei na proxwrhsei to ergo toy o Prwqypoyrgos;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos milhse kai htan safhs. Eipe oti mas endiaferei h oysia ths politikhs. H entolh poy labame apo ton ellhniko lao einai na antimetwpisoyme kai na lysoyme ta problhmata poy apasxoloyn th xwra. Ayto kanoyme me thn apofash poy labame sth xqesinh synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy. H apofash ayth einai antistoixh kai synephs pros tis proeklogikes diakhryjeis. Pisteyw oti ayto to ektima kaqe poliths kai idiaiterws oi polites poy toys aforoyn ta sygkekrimena metra, ta opoia qa teqoyn syntoma se efarmogh. H politikh ths kybernhshs poy afora to koinwniko kratos einai gnwsth kai apotelei proteraiothta sto plaisio ths kybernhtikhs atzentas. Me ayth thn ennoia oloi prepei na symbaloyme, wste na efarmostei me epityxia ayth h politikh, alla kai gia na ginei antilhpto stoys polites oti einai mia politikh poy toys afora, giati odhgei se beltiwsh ths poiothtas ths kaqhmerinhs zwhs toys.

MIXAHL: Mas eipate oti h apofash ayth einai synephs pros tis proeklogikes diakhryjeis kai briskei antapokrish. Omws, h antipoliteysh einai enantion, foreis opws h GSEE, antidroyn entona, dhlwnontas oti ayta den einai metra, einai hmimetra kai alles paromoies ekfraseis. Ti apantate;

REPPAS: Einai dikes toys apoceis. Einai sebastes, alla lanqasmenes. Giati to ycos twn dapanwn poy kateyqynontai se aytoys toys koinwnikoys skopoys einai poly shmantiko. Qa elega oti, sto metro twn dynatothtwn ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, tetoioy eidoys koinwnikes draseis einai prwtognwres. Otan diaqetoyme ekatontades dis draxmes, antilambaneste oti oi polites poy qa geyqoyn ta apotelesmata ayths ths politikhs qa doyn na allazei h zwh toys pros to kalytero. Den lew oti qa lysoyme ola ta problhmata me thn efarmogh aytwn twn metrwn. Sigoyra, omws, qa beltiwqei h zwh enos shmantikoy meroys twn politwn ths xwras. Ayto kanenas den mporei na to amfisbhthsei.

KALARITHS: Apo 1,7 tris poy ejoikonomeite apo ta kondylia toy Ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Amynas gia thn koinwnikh politikh qa diateqoyn panw apo 600 dis. Ta ypoloipa poy qa pane;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola den prepei na ginetai ayth h sysxetish poy odhgei se sygxysh. Exoyme pei oti qa prepei na kanoyme anadiarqrwsh dapanwn, ycoys tessarwn trisekatommyriwn draxmwn mexri kai to 2004. Ayth einai h apofash poy phrame, syzhtwntas gia tis dhmosionomikes prooptikes ths xwras sth synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs. Einai allh h proseggish poy kanete apo thn apofash poy phrame xqes. H xqesinh apofash afora to Diktyo Koinwnikhs Allhleggyhs kai tipota allo. Apotelei synexeia ths proeklogikhs ejaggelias mas. H efarmogh ths politikhs ayths yposthrizetai kai apo to pleonasma poy qa ejasfalisoyme kata thn ektelesh toy fetinoy Proypologismoy. Den prepei na syndeoyme, aparaithtws, to ena me to allo. Oi koinwnikes dapanes, sto synolo toys, anerxontai se dekades trisekatommyria draxmes, se baqos xronoy. To exoyme pei, edw kai para poly kairo, kai paramenoyme synepeis se ayth th desmeysh.

KALARITHS: Sxetika me to klima poy epikratei sto eswteriko toy kybernwntos kommatos -kai anaferomai se geymata kai dhlwseis- ti exete na peite;

REPPAS: Antilambaneste oti ena komma opws to PASOK gia na paramenei pleiochfiko politiko reyma sthn ellhnikh koinwnia den mporei para na einai polysyllektiko. Na ekfrazei polles apoceis. Kaqenas diatypwnei th dikh toy qesh gia to idio qema me tetoio tropo, wste na symballei sthn epiteyjh toy koinoy skopoy. To oti petyxainoyme ayto ton koino skopo fainetai apo to gegonos oti kerdizoyme synexws thn empistosynh ths pleiochfias twn Ellhnwn politwn, wste na kybername polla xronia th xwra mas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh to PASOK einai polysyllektiko komma, qewrei o Prwqypoyrgos oti, mesa se ayto, ta koryfaia toy stelexh kai oi Ypoyrgoi, einai deinosayroi;

REPPAS: Oydeis eqese, oyte qetei tetoio qema. To PASOK, ws komma, alla kai h kybernhsh exoyn maxima stelexh, ta opoia o ellhnikos laos tima me thn chfo toy, giati anagnwrizei thn ikanothta kai apotelesmatikothta toys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Tote giati ebale to Dieyqynth toy Grafeioy Typoy toy na apokalesei ton Pagkalo kai to Benizelo deinosayroys;

REPPAS: To oti eseis fantazeste orismena pragmata, mh qewreite oti emeis prepei na ta eklambanoyme kai ws pragmatikothta. Den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. Tipota den isxyei apo osa eseis yponoeite. Kai, epeidh anafereste se mia sygkekrimenh omilia, prepei na sas pw oti eixe allo periexomeno, allo antikeimeno kai alles anafores.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw den yponow tipota. Den milhse o k. Pantagias gia deinosayroys;

REPPAS: Eseis dinete ayth thn ermhneia, thn opoia den yponohse o k. Pantagias. Einai dikaiwma sas. Alla, to oti eseis fantazeste ayth thn ekdoxh, den prepei na qewreite oti oloi exoyme thn idia fantasia, thn toso megalh dikh sas fantasia, wste na bgaloyme to idio symperasma.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oi 152.000 xiliades draxmes, telika, pote qa doqoyn; Mporeite na mas peite; Mphkame, hdh, ston Aprilio.

REPPAS: Prepei na sas pw oti omades plhqysmoy poy dikaioyntai ayto to poso, to exoyn labei. Bebaiws, h katabolh aytoy toy posoy synexizetai. Pisteyoyme oti h efarmogh aytoy toy metroy apodeiknyei, gia mia akomh fora, poso synepeis eimaste stis ypoxrewseis poy exoyme analabei enanti toy ellhnikoy laoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oi omades plhqysmoy poy den to exoyn labei, poy ofeiletai;

REPPAS: Qa to laboyn. Einai qema twn armodiwn yphresiwn, einai qema ths Dioikhshs na ferei se peras ayto to ergo. Gnwrizete poly kala oti ayto to poso kataballetai anadromikws. Ara, oydeis qa xasei estw kai mia draxmh, apo ta xrhmata poy dikaioytai na labei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh qa antimetwpizei toys ergazomenoys me MAT kai xeirobombides; Ayth einai h politikh ths;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh exei katorqwsei, epi polla xronia, na einai kybernhsh, epeidh o ellhnikos laos anagnwrizei sthn kybernhsh kai thn politikh ths thn prospaqeia kai to apotelesma poy odhgei sth dhmioyrgia enos kratoys dikaioy, poy einai kai koinwniko kratos. Ayto nomizw ta leei ola.

MPOTWNHS: Xqes, sth Boylh apofasisthke na yparjei mia epitroph episthmonwn gia tis syxnothtes. H kybernhsh, efoson ayth h epitroph katalhjei se ``x'' xrono, na doqoyn perissoteres syxnothtes, qa to kanei ayto; Einai symfwnh se ayth thn kateyqynsh;

REPPAS: Yparxei h YPA, yparxoyn oi texnikes yphresies toy ypoyrgeioy Metaforwn. H YPA einai to kat ejoxhn armodio organo ths Politeias mas, to opoio, metajy twn allwn, exei epifortistei me to kaqhkon na diasfalizei tis pthseis, oti qa einai asfalhs h metakinhsh twn politwn poy xrhsimopoioyn aeroporikes etaireies. H bash, loipon, gia opoiadhpote meleth einai h protash, h ektimhsh, h meleth poy kanei h YPA. Apo kei kai pera, sto plaisio twn koinoboyleytikwn diadikasiwn, mia eidikh epitroph, kaloymenh Epitroph Apotimhshs ths Texnologias, apofasise na proxwrhsei sth sygkrothsh mia tetoias epitrophs empeirognwmwn, episthmonwn. Qa anamenoyme ta porismata ths, ta opoia prepei na basizontai, bebaiws, sthn protash poy kanei h YPA. An katalhjei se mia protash den mporei na thn agnohsei kaneis. Moy dinete, omws, me thn erwthsh sas thn eykairia na epanalabw to ejhs: To qema ayto einai texniko qema. Den einai proion politikhs apofashs o ariqmos twn diaqesimwn syxnothtwn se mia perioxh kai sto Nomo Attikhs, en prokeimenw. Afoy, loipon, einai texniko zhthma qa prepei na antimetwpistei ws tetoio apo toys empeirognwmones, toys episthmones, toys eidikoys texnikoys. Qa paramenoyme se epafh me oloys aytoys toys episthmones, alla bebaiws oloi oi episthmones qa prepei na laboyn ypoch toys th basikh qesh ths YPA. Giati einai to organo poy qa klhqei na apologhqei kai qa kathgorhqei an o mh genoito symbei kati dysmenes, oson afora th leitoyrgia toy neoy aerodromioy. Gi` ayto o kaqenas, sto plaisio ths dhmokratikhs kai syntetagmenhs Politeias mas, prepei na pairnei tis eyqynes toy, analogws twn armodiothtwn poy toy exoyn anateqei.

MIXAHL: Ti exete na apanthsete sto gegonos oti me ayto poy lete, oysiastika prodiagrafete thn poreia ths ereynas twn episthmonwn. Dioti, otan toys peite, jerete ayta einai ta legomena ths YPA kai basei aytwn qa melethsete o,ti melethsete, einai san na lete oti aytes einai oi prodiagrafes, panw se ayta kante ereyna. An aytoi, loipon, poyn "oxi, den tis dexomaste kai qa kanoyme mia ereyna apo thn arxh" poy qa exei diaforetiko apotelesma...

REPPAS: Qelete na katarghsoyme thn YPA; H YPA anhkei se ena dieqnh organismo. Einai ayth h opoia eggyatai thn asfaleia twn pthsewn. Syzhthsame prin ligo kairo -kai einai xarakthristiko to paradeigma poy moy erxetai twra sto noy- qemata poy aforoyn thn asfaleia sth naysiploia kai eidikws thn aktoploia. Gnwrizete poly kala oti ta oria hlikias twn ploiwn poy xrhsimopoioyntai se alles xwres ths Eyrwphs einai poly panw apo ta oria poy eixan problefqei gia th dikh mas xwra. Emeis apofasisame, gia na einai pio asfaleis oi synqhkes sthn ellhnikh aktoploia, na katebasoyme akomh perissotero ayta ta oria hlikias, gia na exoyme kalyteres synqhkes asfaleias. Mas kathgoreite gi` ayto;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Afoy pnighkan oi 84...

REPPAS: Qa prepei na qrhnhsoyme kai alloy qymata gia na paroyme metra; `H qa anaqesoyme sth sygkekrimenh yphresia, h opoia exei thn eyqynh kai eggyatai thn asfaleia twn pthsewn, na kanei th basikh protash ths -thn opoia exei kanei- poy qa lhfqei ypoch, prokeimenoy na ginoyn oles oi alles meletes; Giati h YPA einai ayth poy qa kaqorisei thn perioxh h opoia prepei na elegxetai apo thn idia gia na diasfalisei tis pthseis. Na einai safh ayta.

MIXAHL: An einai opws mas ta lete, tote giati h Epitroph ths Boylhs anaqetei se kapoioys episthmones ayth th meleth kai den leei to ejhs: Kyrioi, h YPA einai ypeyqynh, mas ekane protash kai eseis den mporeite na kinhqeite diaforetika.

REPPAS: Epanalambanw oti ayto einai texniko zhthma. H armodia Eidikh Epitroph ths Boylhs exei dikaiwma na parei tis apofaseis ths. Oi episthmones -einai bebaio ayto- qa synergastoyn kai me thn YPA. Pairnoyn kapoia dedomena gia na kanoyn tis meletes toys. Den einai ayqairetes oi meletes toys, einai tekmhriwmenes.

MOYRTZHS: O Prwqypoyrgos anaferqhke, prin apo ligo, sthn aimomiktikh sxesh politikhs kai oikonomikhs ejoysias me ta MME. Apodexetai oti h oikonomikh isxys exei th dynatothta na diamorfwnei thn koinh gnwmh kai orismenes fores, malista, na ephreazei krisimes apofaseis. Egw antilambanomai oti o Prwqypoyrgos omologei oti h politikh ejoysia einai eyalwth stis apaithseis twn idiokthtwn twn MME. Einai swsth ayth h ektimhsh moy;

REPPAS: Kanate mia mikrh analysh kai odhghqhkate se ena symperasma. Einai gnwsto se oloys oti polles fores dynameis me oikonomikh epifaneia prospaqoyn na ephreasoyn tis apofaseis poy pairnoyn ta organa ths Politeias. Ayto, omws, poy exei shmasia einai kaqenas na anaptyssei tis drasthriothtes toy sto zwtiko xwro poy prepei na kineitai kai o xwros aytos einai kaqorismenos apo to Syntagma kai toys nomoys ths xwras. H Politeia, h politikh kai oi politikoi einai aytoi poy pairnoyn tis krisimes apofaseis gia to mellon ths xwras kai prepei na tis pairnoyn me bash to dhmosio kai to eqniko symferon. Oi diatajeis toy Syntagmatos, etsi opws diamorfwnontai kai prokeitai na chfistoyn, pisteyoyme oti apoteloyn -to eipa, allwste, kai sthn arxh- ena akomh bhma peraiterw qwrakishs ths Politeias apenanti se tetoioy eidoys anomes kai idioteleis epidiwjeis.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Ofeilw na sas metaferw thn anhsyxia poy yparxei sthn koinh gnwmh ths Kyproy, meta thn anakoinwsh gia meiwsh twn amyntikwn dapanwn kai oti ayto piqanon na exei epiptwseis kai sto amyntiko dogma, metajy Elladas kai Kyproy. To allo qema einai, an froneite oti einai kalh eikona ayth poy eida teleytaia, na erxontai sthn Kypro politikoi andres, oi opoioi diatelesan kai ypoyrgoi kai malista se poly spoydaia ypoyrgeia kai na kathgorei syllhbdhn o enas ton allon oti o enas milhse gia synomospondia, o allos gia omospondia k.t.l. Einai eikona ayth poy paroysiazetai mesa sthn Kypro kai proagei ayto th filia Elladas-Kyproy kai akoma kai to kypriako problhma;

REPPAS: To mhnyma ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs pros ton kypriako lao einai safes: To Dogma toy Eniaioy Amyntikoy Xwroy paramenei isxyro. H anazhthsh lyshs sto kypriako problhma epidiwketai sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy OHE kai mono se ayto. Kai bebaiws, oydeis syzhta -oxi mono den dexetai, alla oyte kan syzhta- lysh gia synomospondia. Einai kati poy den syzhteitai kan. Ara, loipon, oi qeseis mas einai kathgorhmatikes kai safeis ston tomea ayto kai me ayth thn ennoia den prepei na epitrepoyme na dhmioyrgeitai kamia sygxysh. Bebaiws, oi syzhthseis einai anoiktes, qa synexistoyn. Kaqenas leei thn apoch toy. Ayto, omws, poy exei shmasia einai poia einai h qesh twn organwn poy kaqorizoyn thn poreia twn pragmatwn. Epanalambanw, oti to Dogma toy Eniaioy Amyntikoy Xwroy einai se isxy kai pws h anazhthsh lyshs toy kypriakoy problhmatos synexizetai sthn kateyqynsh ths omospondias kai monon. Den tiqetai kan qema synomospondias. Den syzhteitai kati tetoio.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Se ola ta qemata qa mporoyse o kaqenas na exei thn apoch toy. Otan, omws, xeirizetai eqnika qemata ycisths shmasias, den mporei o kaqenas na exei thn apoch toy. Dioti, an kaqotan o kaqenas kai elege thn apoch toy kai o enas elege "synomospondia", o allos "omospondia" ...

REPPAS: Kaqenas ekfrazei tis apoceis toy me ton tropo poy o idios qewrei swsto kai ypeyqynos gia tis apoceis poy ekfrazei einai o idios.

KAPPOS: Qa prospaqhsei h kybernhsh na ikanopoihsei to aithma ths Agkyras gia kapoia anagkh diamesolabhtikoy roloy, se sxesh me thn antimetwpish ths oikonomikhs krishs sthn Toyrkia; Kai an ginei ayto, qa hqela na moy peite poia qa einai ta krithria se sxesh me tis dimereis sxeseis Elladas-Toyrkias.

REPPAS: Apo thn prwth stigmh exoyme kanei gnwsth th qesh mas oti symmerizomaste thn prospaqeia poy kanei h geitonikh xwra gia na jeperasei ta problhmata poy dhmioyrghqhkan se aythn, logw ths oikonomikhs krishs sthn opoia perihlqe. Gnwrizete oti einai se ejelijh kai oloklhrwnetai shmera h episkech toy Ellhna ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn sthn Toyrkia. O k. Papandreoy qa kanei dhlwseis gia ta synafh qemata. Qa anamenoyme aytes tis dhlwseis, oi opoies qa perikleioyn oles tis ektimhseis toy, meta tis epafes kai tis syzhthseis poy eixe sthn Toyrkia. Symmerizomaste, opws eipa, apolytws thn prospaqeia poy kanei h Toyrkia na jeperasei thn oikonomikh krish poy th mastizei.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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