Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-03-14

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 14 Martioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxei ena gegonos shmera, kapoios phge na aytoktonhsei, na aytopyrpolhqei, enw alloi fwnazoyn, diamartyrontai. Einai 140 atoma. Einai toso megalo problhma, den mporoyse na ta aporrofhsei kapoia allh yphresia;

REPPAS: Prepei na sas pw oti to problhma ayto afora eispraktores toy TEBE, oi opoioi paramenoyn sthn yphresia edw kai arketa xronia, meta apo dikastikh apofash. Meta, dhladh, apo apofash-proswrinh diatagh asfalistikwn metrwn, poy toys epitrepei na paramenoyn kai na ergazontai sto TEBE mexri na ekdikastei epi ths oysias h ypoqesh. Dystyxws, par oti exoyn perasei arketa xronia (5, 6, 7 xronia), logw synexwn anabolwn, to armodio dikasthrio den exei asxolhqei me thn ypoqesh kai den exei ekdwsei thn telikh apofash toy. To problhma poy dhmioyrgeitai einai to ejhs: Epeidh akribws oi sygkekrimenoi ergazomenoi, ws eispraktores toy TEBE, paramenoyn ston organismo, logw ayths ths dikastikhs apofashs peri asfalistikwn metrwn kai oxi giati exoyn ananewqei oi symbaseis toys, den kalyptoyn ton apaitoymeno xrono, wste na metatagoyn sto kaqestws twn ergazomenwn me symbaseis aoristoy xronoy. Ayto einai to problhma poy exei prokycei. To armodio ypoyrgeio exei apeyqynqei sto Nomiko Symboylio toy Kratoys, exei qesei erwthma. H kybernhsh dhlwnei oti qa th desmeyei h gnwmodothsh - apofash toy Nomikoy Symboylioy toy Kratoys, h opoia anamenetai -elpizoyme oti tis epomenes hmeres qa ginei gnwsth- wste analogws ths gnwmodothshs ayths toy Nomikoy Symboylioy toy Kratoys na prajoyme.

Ayto to opoio, me thn eykairia ths erwthshs sas, prepei na pw einai oti den einai swstos o tropos na proballontai ta aithmata ayta, giati ena stoixeio ekbiasmoy h anypakohs, pisteyw oti den einai o kalyteros dromos gia na ftasei kapoios sth diekdikhsh kai thn probolh twn qematwn toy. Kai se teleytaia analysh, den prepei oloi oi alloi na ypoqalpoyme mia tetoia nootropia. Na eynooyme thn ekdhlwsh mias tetoias praktikhs, mias tetoias stashs, h opoia den exei ereisma sth nomimothta. Ola ayta ta anefera san plhroforiaka stoixeia gia na deijw pws exei to qema, epeidh, akribws, pantote epidiwketai h dhmioyrgia entypwsewn kai oloi "aixmalwtizomaste" apo tis efhmeres entypwseis kai xanoyme thn oysia twn qematwn. Ayto ginetai syxnotata kai den prepei na ginetai.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Me sygxwreite, ti ennoeite "den einai swstos tropos na proballontai ta aithmata ayta"; O anqrwpos aytos exei tria paidia, exei goneis anaphroys, eixe mia doyleia, th xanei, dhladh, ta MME eprepe na to krycoyn ayto to pragma; Na mhn to deijoyn; Ti ennoeite "ypoqalpoyme";

REPPAS: Otan kapoios ergazetai se enan organismo, logw ths symbashs poy exei ypogracei, efoson h symbash toy ayth exei orismenh diarkeia, me th lhjh ths symbashs payei na apasxoleitai. Aytodikaia symbainei ayto. Edw exoyme to ejhs fainomeno, to opoio ekdhlwnetai se polles periptwseis: Polloi poy ergazontai sto plaisio ypografhs tetoiwn symbasewn, otan lhjei h isxys ths symbashs toys, epimenoyn na synexizoyn na ergazontai, zhtwntas eite na ananewqei h symbash toys, eite na entaxqoyn se ena kaqestws monimhs apasxolhshs. Oydepote o organismos h h yphresia poy proxwrhse sth synach mias symbashs ayths ths morfhs me enan ergazomeno, anelabe desmeysh h ypoxrewsh apenanti ston ergazomeno na ton apasxolhsei epi monimoy basews. Antilambanomai to koinwniko problhma poy yparxei, alla prepei ki eseis na anagnwrisete oti den einai aytos o dromos gia na lyqei to problhma ths anergias. Asfalws, prepei na antimetwpizontai me idiaiterh eyaisqhsia, me ayjhmeno endiaferon kapoies periptwseis. Den nomizw omws oti qa prepei oi apofaseis na lambanontai se ena tetoio kaqestws, to opoio periexei kai stoixeia ekbiasmoy. H qesh mas einai safhs kai nomizw oti einai plhrhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati se alles periptwseis, me poly liga xronia, na mhn pw mhnes, me symbash ergoy, monimopoihqhkan; Den yparxoyn periptwseis poy perasan me nomosxedio kai perasan, na mhn pw posoi perasan; Dyo metra kai dyo staqma isxyoyn;

REPPAS: Kaqe allo. Ayto to qema akribws poy lete, qa mporoyse na eixe antimetwpistei, ean ta armodia dikasthria eixan ekdwsei thn oristikh apofash toys, epi ths oysias toy qematos, wste me bash ayth thn apofash, to TEBE kai opoios antistoixos Organismos exei analogo problhma, na labei ths apofaseis toy. An, dhladh, to dikasthrio dexqei oti prepei na parameinoyn sthn ergasia toys, to TEBE aytomatws qa ypegrafe nea symbash, qa enetasse aytoys toys ergazomenoys sto proswpiko toy, me apotelesma na exoyn aytoi, apo tote mexri shmera, ta xronia yphresias ekeina, poy qa toys edinan th dynatothta na einai ergazomenoi me symbaseis aoristoy xronoy. Prepei na sas pw oti ayth h proswrinh diatagh asfalistikwn metrwn apo ta armodia dikasthria exei ekdoqei to 1994-95. Eimaste sto 2001. Den prepei gi` ayth thn ypoqesh na ekdoqei h telikh apofash; Epi ths oysias den exei ekdikastei to qema, meta apo synexeis anaboles.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai poios ftaiei, oi ergazomenoi;

REPPAS: Den ftaiei omws kai h armodia yphresia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ftaiei to ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs. Ayto to qema den apasxolei to ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs h to ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn; Giati to afhnoyn....

REPPAS: Sas ejhghsa pws exei to qema. To problhma xronoy aponomhs ths dikaiosynhs, einai ena problhma poy exoyme entopisei. Kai gnwrizete poly kala poies prwtoboylies exoyn analhfqei pros thn kateyqynsh ayth, me kala apotelesmata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh h k. Papandreoy eipe oti den gnwrizei ayto to qema, einai alhqeia ayto; Akoysa twra oti dhlwse, oti agnoei to qema.

REPPAS: H k. Papandreoy kai oi armodies yphresies toy ypoyrgeioy asxoloyntai me to qema ayto. O yfypoyrgos k. Tzannhs einai se synergasia me ton yfypoyrgo Koinwnikwn Asfalisewn k. Farmakh kai me th Dioikhsh toy TEBE, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisoyn thn katastash poy exei dhmioyrghqei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai kati teleytaio. Epeidh aytos o anqrwpos synelhfqh, poio einai to mellon toy twra; Ton epiase h Astynomia, poy ton pane;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti anamenetai h gnwmodothsh toy Nomikoy Symboylioy toy Kratoys, poy qa desmeysei kai tis epiloges ths kybernhshs. Ayth th dhlwsh ekane h kybernhsh.

ARGYROS: Qelw na ypobalw dyo erwthseis: H prwth einai, giati h kybernhsh afhnei na synexizetai aytos o faylos kyklos me toys symbasioyxoys se diaforoys Organismoys kai den ton exei stamathsei. Kai h deyterh, an shmera to brady qa yparjoyn ``kaqares lyseis'' sto E.G.;

REPPAS: Oson afora thn prwth erwthsh sas, gnwrizete poly kala oti h kybernhsh exei analabei nomoqetikh prwtoboylia, prokeimenoy na entajei se ena poly safes kaqestws apasxolhshs, aytoys poy mexri shmera apasxoloyntai me synexws ananeoymenes symbaseis. To problhma, loipon, ayto antimetwpizetai me tropo qetiko. Sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh twn ergazomenwn toy TEBE, dhmioyrghqhke ayto to problhma, epeidh akribws -logw ths idiomorfhs ayths ergasiakhs katastashs, sthn opoia brisketai mia omada ergazomenwn toy TEBE, sygkekrimena eispraktorwn toy TEBE- den mporei na kalycei aytes tis proypoqeseis poy orizei o nomos.

Oson afora th deyterh erwthsh, prepei na sas pw oti ayto to qema afora synedriash enos kommatikoy organoy. Opws pantote, oi synedriaseis twn organwn toy Kinhmatos, ginontai me dhmokratiko tropo, antallassontai apoceis kai ta apotelesmata aytwn twn syzhthsewn, einai fanero oti eynooyn kai prowqoyn thn kalyterh leitoyrgia toy PASOK. Pragma to opoio, asfalws, exei to qetiko antiktypo toy kai sth leitoyrgia ths kybernhshs.

KAPPOS: An h kybernhsh, meta thn arnhtikh ypodoxh poy eixe to neo nomosxedio, to antitromokratiko -ekanan dhlwseis kai diafores proswpikothtes gi` ayto- skeftetai na probei se kapoies allages h qa to afhsei opws einai;

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, den symmerizomai thn apoch sas oti h ypodoxh einai arnhtikh. Gnwrizete poly kala oti ayth h nomoqetikh prwtoboylia ths kybernhshs exei ejaggelqei edw kai poly kairo. Exei ereisma toso sto arqro 19 toy Syntagmatos kai bebaiws to periexomeno ths den einai tipote allo para h epanalhch kai apotypwsh ths dieqnoys symbashs poy ypografqhke sto plaisio toy OHE apo 150 xwres toy kosmoy, kata th diaskech poy egine ton prohgoymeno Noembrh sto Palermo ths Italias. Ayth h nomoqetikh prwtoboylia exei ginei gnwsth se ola ta politika kommata kai se alloys foreis. Anamenetai epishma kai egkyra h diatypwsh twn dikwn toys apocewn, prin h kybernhsh kataqesei, me morfh nomosxedioy, ayth thn protash sth Boylh. Pisteyoyme oti oi ryqmiseis poy perilambanontai se ayth th nomoqetikh prwtoboylia einai swstes, giati apo th mia ajiopoioyn tis dynatothtes poy mas parexei h texnologia, wste na fqanoyme sto epiqymhto apotelesma, sthn ejixniash twn egklhmatikwn energeiwn kai prajewn kai apo thn allh, mas dinei th dynatothta na perifroyroyme ta dikaiwmata twn politwn, pragma to opoio apotelei kai syntagmatikh epitagh thn opoia sebomaste apolytws. Ara, loipon, h syzhthsh, meta thn protash ths kybernhshs, anamenetai na ejelixqei me tropo tetoio, wste na ajiopoihqoyn apoceis, oi opoies mporei na enswmatwqoyn stis diatajeis toy nomosxedioy, alla den mporei na ginetai logos gia anaklhsh ayths ths prwtoboylias, giati pisteyoyme oti einai pros thn orqh kateyqynsh.

KAPPOS: Den yparxei dynatothta na fqasei sth Boylh me kapoies afairetikes dynamikes to nomosxedio;

REPPAS: Prepei na sas pw oti oi diatajeis aytes, meta apo poly sobarh meleth, exoyn mia tetoia armonia metajy toys, wste na sygkrotoyn ena apotelesmatiko qesmiko plaisio poy to exei anagkh h xwra mas. Kai alles xwres ths E.E., ta teleytaia dyo-tria xronia, exoyn eksygxronisei th nomoqesia toys ston tomea ayto. H Ellada, mporei na pei kaneis oti epanalambanei diatajeis kai ryqmiseis poy isxyoyn se alles xwres ths E.E. Pisteyoyme oti to plaisio prepei na parameinei ayto poy einai. Asfalws, qa ajiopoihqei kai qa entaxqei se ayto to plaisio opoiadhpote allh apoch einai ajiopoihsimh. Alla, den ginetai logos gia allagh toy pneymatos kai toy grammatos, se genikes grammes, aytoy toy nomosxedioy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh ayto to nomosxedio, apo o,ti akoysa, einai to idio me ayto poy eixe h N.D., ektos apo mia diatajh, giati tote to katarghsate ekeino toso ayqaireta;

REPPAS: Qa moy epitrecete na pw oti den exei kamia sxesh to ena me to allo. Me ayto to nomosxedio, moy dinete thn eykairia me thn erwthsh sas na pw oti katargoyntai malista kai diatajeis oi opoies isxyan apo thn epoxh ths diktatorias, opws p.x. aytes poy anaferontai sto arqro 272 toy P.K. gia th dhmeysh twn perioysiakwn stoixeiwn, an sto spiti h sto aytokinhto kapoioy, fer` eipein, entopistei ekrhktikh ylh. Me th diatajh ayth, h opoia isxyei mexri twra, dhmeyetai h perioysia akomh kai an o idiokthths toy spitioy h toy aytokinhtoy den exei opoiadhpote sxesh me mia sygkekrimenh energeia. Prepei na pw, loipon, oti den exei kamia sxesh h prwtoboylia poy analambanei h kybernhsh, me ena nomo ton opoio eixe chfisei palaiotera h Boylh epi kybernhsewn N.D. Antiqetws, qa elega ginontai apolytws sebasta ta dikaiwmata twn politwn kai pantws, me tis diatajeis aytoy toy nomoy, den yparxei periptwsh, katw apo opoiesdhpote synqhkes, na odhghqoyn sth fylakh ekdotes efhmeridwn. Ayth htan h synepeia ekeinoy toy nomoy. Epishs parexetai apolyth dikastikh prostasia se oloys toys polites, oi opoioi kata thn krish twn armodiwn yphresiwn mporei na enexontai se ajiopoines egklhmatikes energeies.

Sas eyxaristw.

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