Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-01-31

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 31 Ianoyarioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YFYPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

THLEMAXO XYTHRH

Geia sas.

Prin dexqw tis erwthseis sas, qelw na kanw ena sxolio: H Nea Dhmokratia kai o k. Karamanlhs, opws jerete, kateqesan sth Boylh xqes protash dyspistias kata toy ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Oikonomias Giannoy Papantwnioy. H syzhthsh epi ths protashs diejagetai hdh kai qa oloklhrwqei ayrio to brady me thn chfoforia poy problepetai apo ton Kanonismo ths Boylhs. Ayto poy qelw na tonisw einai oti o k. Karamanlhs, me to prosxhma oti qelei na bohqhsei to Xrhmatisthrio, thn oikonomia, toys ependytes, xtypa thn ellhnikh oikonomia, to Xrhmatisthrio kai toys ependytes. Ayto to ekane kai kata thn perasmenh tetraetia, eite fanera, eite piswplata, otan h xwra, h kybernhsh prospaqoyse na petyxei th sygklish me thn E.E., thn eisodo mas sthn ONE. Den toy perase kai den qa toy perasei oyte kai shmera. Kai h ellhnikh oikonomia paei kala - ayto einai genikws anagnwrismeno- kai to Xrhmatisthrio qa brei to dromo toy. Ayto poy qelw na pw, epishs, einai oti h Nea Dhmokratia kai o k. Karamanlhs xrhsimopoioyn ta qemata ths oikonomias gia mikropolitikoys kai mikrokommatikoys logoys. Kai ayto einai aneyqyno kai gia thn Ajiwmatikh Antipoliteysh kai gia ton arxhgo ths.

O k. Karamanlhs jexnaei orismena pragmata kai epilegei orismena alla. Jexnaei p.x. oti o idios tote poy to Xrhmatisthrio htan chla ekane episkech sto Xrhmatisthrio, me analoges dhlwseis. Jexnaei oti otan to Xrhmatisthrio htan chla yposthrize oti ayto synebaine, giati h Nea Dhmokratia erxetai sthn kybernhsh kai thn ejoysia.

Sto shmeio ayto qa hqela na sas ypenqymisw ena apospasma apo th synenteyjh toy Prwqypoyrgoy to Septembrio toy 1999, sth DEQ, synenteyjh poy diakrinetai apo to metro poy oytws h allws diaqetei kai diakrinetai gi ayto o k. Shmiths. Sygkekrimena o Prwqypoyrgos, apantwntas se sxetikh erwthsh, eixe dhlwsei: ``Ayto to exoyme pei ej arxhs. Otan symmetexeis se mia agora prepei na eisai prosektikos. Prepei na jereis na sxediazeis, na blepeis piqanes ejelijeis, tis piqanes epiptwseis gia na mporeseis na ajiopoihseis ta xrhmata soy. Ayth einai mia arxh poy oloi osoi qeloyn na symmetasxoyn sto Xrhmatisthrio prepei na exoyn ypoch toys. Den mporei na yparxoyn panta mono kerdh. Na baloyme to qema sth swsth toy diastash. Einai enas qesmos xrhsimos gia thn oikonomia kai thn anaptyjh. Einai enas qesmos, o opoios ejyphretei thn oikonomia, alla opws oloi poy symmetexoyn sthn agora kai prospaqoyn na kerdisoyn mesa apo thn agora kai sto Xrhmatisthrio xreiazetai prosoxh''. H dhlwsh ayth toy Prwqypoyrgoy egine th stigmh ekeinh poy ta pragmata phgainan para poly kala.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, molis kateqese, xqes, h Nea Dhmokratia thn protash, to Xrhmatisthrio anebhke. Opote ekane kalo sto Xrhmatisthrio h protash poy katateqhke. Giati epefte kai apo xqes anebainei;

XYTHRHS: H Nea Dhmokratia me tis epiloges poy exei kanei, meta apo pollh skech @den jerw poio einai to paraskhnio, den mas afora edw, alla diabazw stis efhmerides oti ayth einai mia idea toy k. Sphliwtopoyloy- petyxainei to antiqeto apotelesma apo ayto poy hqele na petyxei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mas diabasate ti eipe mia fora o k. Shmiths, alla den mas diabasate ti elege sthn proeklogikh omilia toy, toso sthn Aqhna, oso kai th Qessalonikh, opws kai sta spotakia poy probale proeklogika h kybernhsh. Ta qymaste ayta;

XYTHRHS: Sas eipa oti apo th Nea Dhmokratia ginetai epilektikh anafora. Den anaferei tis dikes ths dhlwseis, tis dhlwseis toy k. Karamanlh, tis dikes ths energeies. Anaferei, teleiws afhrhmena, dhlwseis kybernhtikwn stelexwn.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Prin apo ligo, mas eipate oti h ellhnikh oikonomia paei kala kai to Xrhmatisthrio qa brei to dromo toy. Ti sas kanei na desmeyeste dhmosia gia thn poreia toy Xrhmatisthrioy, th stigmh poy molis prin apo liges hmeres ki eseis kai o k. Reppas, alla kai alla kybernhtika stelexh, legate oti oso ligotero milaei kaneis gia to Xrhmatisthrio toso kalytera einai. Twra giati desmeyeste;

XYTHRHS: Ayto poy eipa oti qa brei to dromo toy, einai mia genikh dhlwsh kai isxyei gia opoiodhpote Xrhmatisthrio. Qa brei to dromo toy, shmainei oti exei anodo, exei kai kaqodo. Aytos einai o dromos toy Xrhmatisthrioy. To na dhmioyrgeitai meizon qema apo thn antipoliteysh kai na epirriptei eyqynes sthn kybernhsh gia na epwfelhqei politika, einai san na eyxetai kai na epidiwkei katastrofika apotelesmata gia thn ellhnikh oikonomia. Yparxoyn kai alla Xrhmatisthria poy exoyn anodo kai kaqodo. Exoyme polla paradeigmata. Kaneis, omws, den kathgorei tis kybernhseis gia thn poreia toy Xrhmatisthrioy se alles xwres. Analyseis ginontai, alla den kathgorei kaneis thn kybernhsh.

KAPPOS: Epanalabate molis twra oti kaneis den kathgorei thn kybernhsh gia thn poreia toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Me bash ayth thn pagia stash ths gia to Xrhmatisthrio, thn kefalaiagora, thn oikonomikh politikh, tis dynameis ths agoras, h kybernhsh qewrei oti einai sto apyroblhto kai den mporei na ypostei politikh kritikh;

XYTHRHS: Den lew ayto. Asfalws, o,ti einai na ginei gia to Xrhmatisthrio, thn kefalaiagora qa ginei. Den yparxei kamia amfibolia oti prepei na sthrizetai aytos o qesmos. Opws gnwrizete to Xrhmatisthrio, ta teleytaia xronia, einai sto kentro toy endiaferontos. Htan 1.000 monades kai kapoia stigmh efqase tis 6.500 monades. Twra brisketai sto shmeio poy brisketai, alla gnwrizete oti to Maio qa perasei sthn anabaqmish toy, poy shmainei mia nea poreia. H poreia ayth xreiazetai sobarothta kai eyqynh, prokeimenoy na leitoyrgei kalytera to Xrhmatisthrio.

KARGOYDH: Ypenqymisame mia ejairetika realistikh dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia to Xrhmatisthrio. Ej antikeimenoy, ayth h dhlwsh antidiastelletai me alles epoysiwdeis dhlwseis allwn kybernhtikwn stelexwn, opws toy k. Papantwnioy, toy k. Laliwth, poy htan ypeyqynos gia thn proeklogikh kampania toy PASOK. Giati ypenqymizete shmera th dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

XYTHRHS: Einai kapoies dhlwseis, apo edw ki apo ekei kai den einai dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, poy qa mporoyse na htan ayth sto epikentro. Giati den proballetai ayth h dhlwsh; Giati otan milaei o Prwqypoyrgos kai kanei tetoia dhlwsh, o kosmos den akoloyqei ayth th dhlwsh; Giati me toso megalh eykolia milame gia otidhpote allo kai oxi gi ayto to opoio einai meizon;

KARGOYDH: Syzhteitai mia protash momfhs kata sygkekrimenoy ypoyrgoy. Den syzhteitai synolika kata ths kybernhshs, opote eyqews qa balletai o k. Shmiths. Giati ypenqymizete dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

KAPPOS: Yparxei dhlwsh toy k. Papantwnioy san ayth poy ekane o Prwqypoyrgos;

XYTHRHS: H protash dyspistias poy ginetai sth Boylh, ginetai kata toy ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Oikonomias, kata ths oikonomikhs politikhs ths kybernhshs. Den einai tyxaios o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias. Kai poly perissotero, den einai tyxaios o k. Papantwnioy, o opoios epi epta-oktw xronia einai ypoyrgos kai exei syndesei to onoma toy me thn epityxia ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. H poreia ths eqnikhs oikonomias exei shmeiwsei epityxia ta teleytaia ayta xronia kai kaneis den mporei na to amfisbhthsei.

MIXAHL: Anarwthqhkate giati sto epikentro ths syzhthshs kai ths protashs momfhs den einai h realistikh, opws eipate, dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Giati h kybernhsh den frontise na epibalei stoys ypoyrgoys kai se alla kybernhtika stelexh analogoy metroy dhlwseis;

XYTHRHS: Eginan polles tetoies dhlwseis, akomh ki edw sthn aiqoysa Typoy. Endeiktika sas anefera th dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Ean se periodo enqoysiasmoy eginan kapoies, perissotero h ligotero, yperbolikes dhlwseis, ayto den shmainei oti prepei na pianomaste apo aytes kai ola ta alla na ta agnooyme. Prepei na einai kaneis antikeimenikos kai to leitoyrghma sas diakrinetai gia thn antikeimenikothta toy. Gi` ayto prepei na anaferontai ola.

MIXAHL: Gia ena allo qema na sas rwthsw. Ti stoixeia exete ws kybernhsh, peran twn epishmwn anakoinwsewn twn armodiwn forewn, gia thn ypoqesh toy ploytwnioy poy apokalyfqhke sth Qessalonikh; Jerete kati parapanw;

XYTHRHS: Ginetai ereyna kai opoia stoixeia yparjoyn qa anakoinwqoyn.

MIXAHL: Poios kanei thn ereyna;

XYTHRHS: H ereyna dienergeitai apo to Ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs. Qa dialeykanqoyn ola ta shmeia, dhladh poios htan o katoxos, poios to topoqethse ekei, poioi htan oi logoi gia toys opoioys breqhke edw ayto to yliko, poios htan o apwteros stoxos toys, poios o proorismos k.t.l.

MIXAHL: Synepws, apo thn apanthsh sas, mporw na ejagw oti h astynomia, oi armodies arxes exoyn peripoy prosdiorisei to xwro, ton opoio kai ereynoyn gia na broyn ti exei ginei me ayta ta grammaria ploytwnioy poy eixan qaftei.

XYTHRHS: Den eipa tipota egw. Eipa mono oti ginetai ereyna. Kai epishs, na symplhrwsw oti eytyxws yparxei merimna. Stoxos mas einai na mhn yparjei kindynos gia ton plhqysmo kai to periballon. Kai prepei na sas pw oti den yparxei kanenas kindynos. Na epishmanw, epishs, oti to xwma sto opoio htan qammeno to yliko ayto, sygkentrwqhke, etsi wste na mhn yparjei h paramikrh epiptwsh.

KAPPOS: Yphrje, xqes, apokalych, einai kati to opoio gnwrizoyn oi Enoples Dynameis, oti se nhsia toy Aigaioy exoyn ginei askhseis me blhmata poy perieixan apemploytismeno oyranio. Yparxoyn kataggelies oti yparxoyn toylaxiston 200.000 tetoioy eidoys blhmata ston ellhniko strato, apoqhkeymena se sygkekrimenoys xwroys. Aytoys toys mhnes ginontai askhseis me tetoioy eidoys blhmata kai yparxoyn ola ta stoixeia, ta opoia dhmosieyontai shmera stis efhmerides.

XYTHRHS: Sas parapempw se dhlwseis poy exei kanei o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Exete kapoia stoixeia na mas dwsete apo th syskech poy egine, shmera to prwi, sto Megaro Majimoy, dedomenoy oti meteixan kai alloi ypoyrgoi kai yfypoyrgoi poy arxika den perilambanontan sto programma gia na symmetasxoyn se ayth th syskech; Poio htan to qema, an syzhthqhke...

XYTHRHS: Gia poia syskech milate; Gia thn prwinh poy syzhthqhke to qema toy aerodromioy toy Ellhnikoy;

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Gia to qema toy aerodromioy toy Ellhnikoy kai an egine kai deyterh syskech, na mas enhmerwsete kai gi` ayth.

XYTHRHS: Synexizetai, mexri ayth thn wra, h syskech kai meta to peras ths qa ginoyn dhlwseis.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: H symmetoxh kai allwn paragontwn poy den eixan anakoinwqei;

XYTHRHS: Oloi osoi symmetexoyn einai synarmodioi gia to sygkekrimeno qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Na rwthsw kati, sxetiko me to prohgoymeno qema: Poios eidopoihse to SDOE;

XYTHRHS: Den to gnwrizw. Eidopoihqhke to SDOE.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayto einai poly sobaro qema. Giati to krybete;

XYTHRHS: Den kryboyme tipota. Den jerw poios eidopoihse to SDOE, mporei na einai kai anwnymos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: To krybei h kybernhsh. Ebgale, xqes, mia anakoinwsh...

XYTHRHS: Mporei na einai kai anwnymh h eidopoihsh. Poy to jerete eseis;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poios eidopoihse;

XYTHRHS: Sas lew oti mporei na einai kai anwnymh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Anwnymh;

XYTHRHS: Nai. Prwth fora ginetai ayto;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Anwnymh gia pente grammaria ploytwnio;

XYTHRHS: Giati na mhn einai anwnymh; Den jerw perissotera.

KWNSTANTINIDOY: Yparxei kapoia antidrash ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, sxetika me tis arxika entones dhlwseis apo amerikanikhs pleyras, gia tis dhlwseis Kaklamanh;

XYTHRHS: To qema ayto exei kleisei gia emas. Milhsame sxetika xqes.

KARELIAS: Pws exei kleisei; Edw diabazoyme oti egine kai diabhma toy k. Mperns. Ti apanthsame se ayto;

XYTHRHS: Egine ston k. Niwth. O k. Niwths apanthse.

KARELIAS: Ti apanthse; Jeroyme;

XYTHRHS: O k. Niwths apanthse ayta ta opoia eipame kai edw. Ta exoyme pei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa doyme pali sto briefing tipote alla, opws shmera, opws xqes poy grafthke alliws h apanthsh;

XYTHRHS: Ayto egine gia dieykolynsh sas, gia na exete oloklhrwmenh apanthsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Meta to thlefwnhma toy k. Kaklamanh, dhladh.

XYTHRHS: Kaqoloy. Kanete laqos. To ekana gia dieykolynsh sas.

KALARITHS: Xqes to brady, h thleorash toy ANTENNA eixe sxetiko reportaz, sxetika me thn katarrich toy elikopteroy sthn ypoqesh twn Imiwn. Symfwna me to reportaz ayto, to elikoptero katarrifqhke apo toys Toyrkoys, symfwna me sxetikes martyries. To epibebaiwnete;

XYTHRHS: Ayta einai istorika dedomena. H kybernhsh exei anaferqei sto qema epaneilhmmena kai epishma. Paramenoyme se ayta.

Sas eyxaristw.

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