Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-01-23

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 23 Ianoyarioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Prin dexqw tis erwthseis sas, qa moy epitrecete na kanw mia dieykrinish, epeidh yparxei sxetiko dhmosieyma se megalh efhmerida. Den antapokrinontai sthn alhqeia ta osa anaferontai peri kathgoriwn poy aphyqyne o arxhgos ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs gia tmhma toy kratikoy mhxanismoy h stelexh ths kybernhshs, ston Ypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs me ton opoio synanthqhke, me aformh to xtyphma enantion toy boyleyth Basilh Mixaloliakoy. Einai anhkoysto na feretai o arxhgos ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs na taytizei thn kybernhsh h ton kratiko mhxanismo me tromokratikes omades. Den exei, loipon, dosh alhqeias ayto to dhmosieyma.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, meta to teleytaio xtyphma kai tis ejelijeis, mhpws h kybernhsh prosanatolizetai, idiaitera o k. Shmiths, na fwnajei toys politikoys arxhgoys, na mpei epi ths oysias kai sto ``dia tayta'' to qema ths tromokratias sthn Ellada, me opoiondhpote tropo poy qa meqodeysoyn, pleon, oi politikoi arxhgoi;

REPPAS: Ayto to ``me opoiondhpote tropo'' sas parakalw mh to lete me toso megalh eykolia. Qa prepei na anazhthsoyme kai na broyme th xrysh tomh, giati bebaiws pantote qa prepei na ginontai sebasta ta dikaiwmata twn politwn. Oloi oi polites, pisteyw oti epiqymoyn kai me th dikh toys an xreiazetai symbolh, na fqasoyme se ena qetiko apotelesma kai na ejaleicoyme thn tromokratia apo thn patrida mas. Einai mia mastiga. Kata ta alla, oi eidikoi episthmones poy exoyn epifortisqei me ayto to ergo, otan oloklhrwsoyn th meleth toys, qa paradwsoyn thn ekqesh toys. Me bash, loipon, tis dikes toys protaseis to Ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs qa diatypwsei thn protash toy kai ayth h protash qa apotelesei kai antikeimeno syzhthshs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayto poy eipate sthn arxh, oti ``den antapokrinetai sthn alhqeia'', sas eipe o Ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs oti den elexqhsan ayta h sas eipe o k. Karamanlhs na to diaceysete;

REPPAS: Einai qema toy k. Karamanlh na kanei h na mhn kanei opoiodhpote sxolio, apo th dikh toy pleyra. Einai qema ths kybernhshs, ypoxrewsh ths, na dieykrinisei oti kati tetoio, san ayto poy anaferetai sto dhmosieyma, den antapokrinetai sthn alhqeia. O Ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs me diabebaiwse oti h qesh kai stash toy arxhgoy ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs htan idiaiterws ypeyqynh kata th syzhthsh poy eixan kai den exei kamia sxesh to periexomeno twn oswn syzhthsan me osa anaferontai sto dhmosieyma.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Xrysoxoidhs ekane mia dhlwsh kai leei oti syntoma oi dolofonoi qa logodothsoyn. Exei kapoia stoixeia h yparxei kapoia syllhch; Yparxei kapoio stoixeio kai exoyn entopistei oi dolofonoi h aytoi poy ekanan thn apopeira;

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, antilambaneste pws ayta ta qemata den mporei na syzhthqoyn dhmosiws kai me ayton ton tropo. Ta stoixeia poy exoyn sth diaqesh toys oi armodies yphresies ta ajiologoyn, bgazoyn ta symperasmata toys kai apo ekei kai pera xarazoyn th drash toys. Kata ta alla, ginetai mia systhmatikh doyleia. H prospaqeia einai epiponh. Einai ychloy epipedoy h synergasia twn ellhnikwn armodiwn yphresiwn me tis yphresies allwn kratwn gia to antikeimeno ayto. Ola ayta ta stoixeia dhmioyrgoyn thn pepoiqhsh oti eimaste sto swsto dromo. Logiko einai, ws apotelesma ayths ths doyleias, o armodios ypoyrgos na prosblepei kai se qetika apotelesmata. Ayto akribws einai to pneyma twn oswn dhlwse o k. Xrysoxoidhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oxi, ayta ta idia pragmata eixate pei kai otan eixe dolofonhqei o Sonters. Twra, o k. Xrysoxoidhs einai poly kathgorhmatikos. Leei ``syntoma'' kai prosdiorizei, sxedon, to xroniko diasthma. Exei kapoia stoixeia h kapoia onomata; Yparxei ayth h lista poy dhmosieyetai shmera oti edwsan oi Amerikanoi;

REPPAS: Ermhneyete tis dhlwseis toy k. Xrysoxoidh. Einai dikaiwma sas, alla ayto den ekfrazei ton k. Xrysoxoidh, oyte thn kybernhsh. Ayto poy eipe o k. Xrysoxoidhs antapokrinetai sto pneyma ths prospaqeias poy kanoyn oi armodies yphresies kai sthn pepoiqhsh poy dhmioyrgeitai oti h systhmatikh doyleia mporei na odhghsei se qetika apotelesmata.

MPOTWNHS: Na perimenoyme sto ameso mellon kapoies apofaseis gia ta Eurofighter; Kai mia deyterh erwthsh paremferhs, ean yparxei ``kontra'' metajy twn k. Papantwnioy - Tsoxatzopoyloy gia to qema twn ejoplistikwn kondyliwn.

REPPAS: Oson afora to ejoplistiko programma, gnwrizete poly kala oti exoyme efarmosei, se shmantiko baqmo, tis apofaseis poy exoyme parei palaiotera se synedriaseis toy KYSEA. Oi dyo ypoyrgoi, o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas kai o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias, exoyn synergastei arista. Ayto, allwste, apodeiknyetai kai apo ta apotelesmata poy exoyme ston tomea ayto. Kata ta alla, h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, sth meqayrianh synedriash ths, metajy twn allwn, qa asxolhqei @opws sas anakoinwsa xqes- kai me to ejoplistiko programma. Ara, loipon, eimaste se mia periodo poy h kybernhsh, mesw twn organwn ths, qa labei apofaseis gia ta qemata ayta.

ARGYROS: Gia to ejoplistiko: Alhqeyei oti h Nomoparaskeyastikh Epitroph den exei synedriasei mexri twra kai oyte kan exei sygkrothqei;

REPPAS: Apanthsa prin se ayto to erwthma. Eipa oti oi episthmones, oi empeirognwmones, oi eidikoi asxoloyntai, meletoyn ayto to qema. Synedriazoyn taktika. Leitoyrgoyn ws Nomoparaskeyastikh Epitroph, h opoia exei na epejergastei sygkekrimenes diatajeis, prokeimenoy na katartisei ena nomosxedio to opoio qa prowqhqei sth Boylh.

ARGYROS: Yphrje, xqes, thlefwnikh epikoinwnia toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs;

REPPAS: H epikoinwnia toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys ypoyrgoys ginetai se takth bash. Qa elega kai xqes kai proxqes kai kaqe mera. Me ton Ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs, idiaiterws aytes tis hmeres, h epikoinwnia einai pyknh.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Einai enhmerh h kybernhsh gia ta apotelesmata mias ereynas poy dhmosieyei h efhmerida "Ejoysia", gia to gegonos oti perioxes fysikoy kaloys, me politistikh klhronomia, alla kai bary istoriko fortio, pernoyn me grhgoroys ryqmoys se xeria allodapwn se olh thn Ellada;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti sto plaisio ths E.E. kai sth bash twn idiwtikwn synallagwn, eleyqera kaqe poliths mporei na pairnei apofaseis, na poyla kai na agorazei perioysiaka stoixeia. H politikh ayth isxyei se oles tis xwres ths E.E. Einai qema twn idiwn twn politwn mias xwras, twn Ellhnwn en prokeimenw. Einai qema kai twn topikwn forewn, se ejairetikes periptwseis, otan miloyme gia mnhmeia poy exoyn sxesh me thn topikh istoria, thn paradosh kai ton politismo, na analaboyn antistoixes prwtoboylies, prokeimenoy na parameinoyn ayta ws perioysiaka stoixeia, katw apo ellhnikh idiokthsia. Pisteyw, omws, oti ayto einai ena stoixeio to opoio den prepei na odhgei sto symperasma oti dhmioyrgoyntai kapoioi kindynoi gia thn ellhnikh taytothta h gia thn prooptikh ths xwras. Einai yperboliko na bgazei kaneis ayto to symperasma.

KARGOYDH: Gia to qema ths tromokratias: Epeidh yparxei mia spania -kai pantws spania, symfwna me to parelqon- omoqymia kai toy politikoy kosmoy kai twn MME kai toy mesoy polith gia thn oysiastikh antimetwpish ths tromokratias, hqela na rwthsw, epeidh yparxei kaqysterhsh sth lhch metrwn, idiws sto nomoqetiko, apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs, poia einai h epishmh apanthsh ths;

REPPAS: Apanthsa se ayto, toylaxiston dyo fores shmera. Einai h trith fora poy me kaleite na epanalabw ayth th qesh...

KARGOYDH: Me sygxwreite, o Prwqypoyrgos, pro mhnos, eixe pei oti to nomosxedio qa katateqei sto telos toy Ianoyarioy. Den katateqhke. Yparxei kapoio kwdiko zhthma gyrw apo to opoio problhmatizetai h kybernhsh kai poio einai ayto;

REPPAS: Ma, den apanthsa xqes se ayto; Kai epanhlqa shmera. Ola ayta apoteloyn antikeimeno syzhthshs episthmonikoy dialogoy metajy twn eidikwn. Kai epeidh ta qemata ayta qa prepei na ta proseggizoyme, staqmizontas ajies kai agaqa ta opoia synyparxoyn sto idio antikeimeno -apo th mia einai ta dikaiwmata twn politwn, apo thn allh einai h prospaqeia ths politeias, twn armodiwn yphresiwn na fqasoyn se ena qetiko apotelesma oi ereynes poy mexri twra kanoyn- ola ayta qa prepei na synektimhqoyn, prokeimenoy na apotypwqoyn se ena keimeno, se mia diatajh nomoy, h opoia qa einai apotelesmatikh, xwris na qigei omws ton pyrhna twn qemeliwdwn dikaiwmatwn toy atomoy poy einai katoxyrwmena apo to Syntagma ths xwras. Ayth einai h prospaqeia poy ginetai.

KARGOYDH: Den qa mporoyse ayto na eixe oloklhrwqei...

REPPAS: Den einai mono qema ths kybernhshs. Sas eipa oti oi kalyteroi episthmones poy diaqetei h xwra mas sta qemata toy Dikaioy, exoyn asxolhqei me ayto to antikeimeno. Qa prepei na sebastoyme tis eyaisqhsies poy epideiknyoyn, tis enstaseis poy polles fores diatypwnoyn, tis diaforetikes apoceis poy kataqetoyn. To qema einai oti o polys xronos exei parelqei, efqase h wra kai syntoma pisteyw qa eimaste etoimoi na paroysiasoyme ayth thn protash. Milhsame gia ton erxomeno mhna. Den nomizw oti o Febroyarios -efoson qa einai o Febroyarios, entos toy opoioy qa paroysiastei h protash ths kybernhshs- shmainei kaqysterhsh, toylaxiston tetoia, wste na diatypwnetai kathgoria gia kaqysterhsh enantion ths kybernhshs.

SOYGLERHS: Na epanelqw sto prohgoymeno zhthma. Egw ennooysa gia th synanthsh, an qa ginei, toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys politikoys arxhgoys, wste me kapoio tropo na broyn kapoia lysh, giati akoygetai oti paradexontai oloi oti kapoia stigmh prepei na teleiwsei ayto to qema kai enocei ths Olympiadas toy 2004.

REPPAS: Den problepontai sto programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy tetoies synanthseis. Allwste, to qema ayto -epanalambanw- apasxolei to Ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs, tis armodies kratikes yphresies kai to Ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs. Pisteyw oti opoios qelei na symbalei, mporei na to kanei. Me to hdh yparxon plaisio, toy parexontai aytes oi dynatothtes. Den problepetai synanthsh se epipedo arxhgwn. Allwste, einai dedomenh, gnwsth h politikh qesh olwn twn kommatwn.

Sas eyxaristw.

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