Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-01-15

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 15 Ianoyarioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Prin sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy ayths ths ebdomadas, qa hqela na ekfrasw th lyph mas gia thn tragikh ejelijh me to elikoptero. To elikoptero, para to oti oi ereynes synexizontai mexri twra, den exei anebreqei. Den exoyn odhghqei se apotelesma oi prospaqeies poy ginontai apo thn prwth kiolas stigmh poy xaqhke h epafh, poy stamathse na dinei shma pros to kentro to elikoptero ayto. H tragikh ayth ejelijh to pio piqano einai na einai apotelesma twn poly dysmenwn kairikwn synqhkwn poy epikratoysan sth sygkekrimenh perioxh. Oi ereynes synexizontai kai qa synexistoyn, me qalassia kai enaeria mesa, mexri na prokycei kapoio apotelesma, na anabreqoyn stoixeia poy qa symbaloyn, prokeimenoy na gnwrizoyme pws akribws ejelixqhke ayth h tragikh epixeirhsh, h prospaqeia metaforas toy asqenoys apo thn Patmo sthn Aqhna.

O Prwqypoyrgos, se ligo, qa episkefqei thn Trapeza ths Ellados, opoy qa toy parateqei geyma kai qa syzhthsei me thn hgesia ths Trapezas, thn proetoimasia toy Idrymatos, meta thn entajh ths xwras mas sthn EYRWzwnh kai en ocei ths kykloforias toy neoy nomismatos. H Trapeza ths Ellados qa shkwsei ena poly shmantiko fortio, en ocei toy EYRW, to opoio mpainei sth zwh mas. O Prwqypoyrgos me dhlwseis toy qa anaferqei sta qemata ayta. To brady, peripoy stis 20.00, qa episkefqei to Emporiko kai Biomhxaniko Epimelhthrio Peiraia.

Ayrio, stis 10 to prwi, qa dexqei ton epikefalhs ths Arxhs Prostasias Dedomenwn Proswpikoy Xarakthra k. Dafermo. Argotera, peripoy stis 11.15, qa synergastei me ton Ypoyrgo Politismoy Eyaggelo Benizelo. Ayrio, episkeptetai th xwra mas o Proedros ths Gioygkoslabias k. Kostoynitsa. O Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synanthsh mazi toy, stis 13.30. Qa proboyn se dhlwseis. Qa akoloyqhsei, opws synhqizetai se aytes tis periptwseis, geyma. Ta qemata poy qa syzhthqoyn aforoyn tis dimereis politikes, oikonomikes, emporikes sxeseis, th genikoterh katastash sta Balkania kai tis politikes ejelijeis kai bebaiws, to qema poy exei prokycei meta th diapistwsh oti oi bombardismoi sth Gioygkoslabia prokalesan problhmata, oson afora to periballon kai thn ygeia twn politwn.

Thn Tetarth, stis 10 to prwi, qa synergastei me ton Ypoyrgo PEXWDE Kwsta Laliwth gia qemata armodiothtwn toy ypoyrgoy, gia ta erga, idiws gia to Metro ths Qessalonikhs. Argotera, stis 14.00, qa synergastei me thn Ypoyrgo Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs Basw Papandreoy gia thn politikh ths kybernhshs stoys tomeis Dioikhshs kai Aytodioikhshs. To prwi ths idias hmeras, metajy twn dyo synergasiwn, qa pareyreqei sth Boylh sthn Olomeleia toy Swmatos, kata th syzhthsh gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos. To apogeyma, stis 19.45, qa symmetasxei, me omilia toy, sth Boylh gia to idio qema.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Thn Tetarth den exei Ektelestiko Grafeio;

REPPAS: Den sas anakoinwsa synedriash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy.

Thn Pempth, stis 10 to prwi, qa synedriasei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph. Ta qemata ta opoia qa syzhthqoyn einai ayta poy den syzhthqhkan sthn prohgoymenh synedriash: to qema ths legomenhs ``basilikhs perioysias'', h politikh mas sto xwro twn MME kai to qema poy afora diafora erga, metajy twn opoiwn to Metro ths Qessalonikhs. Einai qemata poy qa apasxolhsoyn kai th synergasia toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Kwsta Laliwth, thn prohgoymenh, qema sto opoio anaferqhka. To brady qa paraqesei deipno sta melh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy.

Thn Paraskeyh to prwi, exoyme thn ``Wra toy Prwqypoyrgoy''. Den eimai se qesh ayth thn wra na sas enhmerwsw gia ta qemata poy qa syzhthqoyn. Opws sas exw pei kai allh fora, logw metaforas ths hmeras syzhthshs, h kataqesh twn erwthsewn epitrepetai mexri thn Tetarth, opote qa exoyme th dynatothta na epanelqoyme sto qema kai na prosdiorisoyme epi poiwn erwthsewn qa apanthsei o Prwqypoyrgos. Stis 11.30 to prwi, meta thn ``Wra toy Prwqypoyrgoy'', qa exei synergasia me ton Kwsta Laliwth kai to Xrhsto Berelh gia qemata armodiothtas toys, gia ta megala erga, aerodromio twn Spatwn k.tl.. To brady qa pareyreqei sth dejiwsh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias pros timhn twn Enoplwn Dynamewn ths xwras.

Sas lew, ek prooimioy, oti thn prosexh Deytera (22/1), stis 12.30 qa synedriasei h diypoyrgikh epitroph gia to 2004.

Ayta, oson afora to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

LEONTOPOYLOS: Gia th xqesinh anafora toy k. Pagkaloy kai eidikotera gia tis aixmes toy kata toy Prwqypoyrgoy, ti exete na peite;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh exei epilejei na asxoleitai me to ergo poy ths aneqese o ellhnikos laos na ferei se peras . Den prokeitai na akoloyqhsoyme ena dromo olisqhro, san ayton poy epeleje na akoloyqhsei o k. Pagkalos.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: H Toyrkia agnowntas oles tis apofaseis ths E.E. kai toy Symboylioy Asfaleias twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn, akoma kai tis apofaseis toy Loyjemboyrgoy, ths Nikaias kai toy Elsinki, telika fainetai na proxwra sthn prosarthsh twn katexomenwn, onomazontas malista toys Toyrkokyprioys se Toyrkoys katoikoys. Kai me thn onomasia "dogma eniaioy oikonomikoy xwroy" den pairnei meros se synomilies toy 6oy gyroy. Dierwtwmai, poy odhgoymaste. H kypriakh kybernhsh bebaia prosefyge sta Hnwmena Eqnh, alla dierwtwmai, h Ellas, apo th dikh ths pleyra, poy prosanatolizetai na proxwrhsei;

REPPAS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh einai eyqygrammismenh me tis prwtoboylies ths kybernhshs ths Kyproy. O OHE exei thn armodiothta kai th megalh eyqynh na epishmanei sthn Toyrkia kai ston k. Ntenktas thn ypoxrewsh toys na laboyn ola ta endeiknyomena metra, prokeimenoy na epanalhfqei o gyros twn syzhthsewn gia to Kypriako. O Genikos Grammateas toy OHE den exei aposteilei th sxetikh epistolh, mexri twra. Den exei kalesei, dhladh, ta dyo merh na proselqoyn se synomilies. Elpizoyme oti h proergasia poy ginetai qa katasthsei dynath thn enarjh toy neoy gyroy synomiliwn kai o k. Anan, stelnontas thn epistolh-prosklhsh, qa exei diasfalisei kai toys oroys gia th diejagwgh twn synomiliwn. Einai aparadekth h proklhtikh stash ths Toyrkias poy, me kaqe tropo, prospaqei na dynamitisei thn prospaqeia gia thn aneyresh lyshs sto Kypriako. Den qa epityxei na anakocei thn poreia ths Kyproy pros thn E.E. Einai dedomenh h apofash ths E.E. gia thn entajh toy kypriakoy kratoys sthn eyrwpaikh oikogeneia. Oson afora th lysh toy politikoy problhmatos ths Kyproy, h Dieqnhs Koinothta exei bgalei ta symperasmata ths. Kai nomizw oti h prospaqeia sthn kateyqynsh enos dizwnikoy, dikoinotikoy kratoys qa synexistei me megalyterh entash apo to dieqnh paragonta, giati ayth einai h monadikh lysh.

KWSTANTHS: Eipate oti h kybernhsh den qa akoloyqhsei ton olisqhro dromo poy exei epilejei o k. Pagkalos. Me dedomeno oti o prwhn ypoyrgos exei pei oti qa synexisei tis epikriseis toy pros thn kybernhsh, mexri poy einai to orio ths anektikothtas; Dhladh, qa teqei qema paramonhs toy sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada, an synexisei na leei ayta poy leei;

REPPAS: Kaqenas leei kai kanei o,ti ton ekfrazei. H kybernhsh exei epilejei na asxolhqei -kai einai afosiwmenh se ayto- me to kybernhtiko ergo. H epiteyjh twn stoxwn mas qa krinei thn poreia ths xwras mas gia ta epomena xronia. Sthn ekfrash twn apocewn den mporei na teqei opoiadhpote astynomeysh. Yparxei, bebaiws, pantote to metro eyqynhs, basei toy opoioy krinomaste oloi gia osa leme kai osa kanoyme.

MIXAHL: Se ti synistatai, kata th dikh sas frash, h olisqhrothta toy dromoy poy akoloyqei o k. Pagkalos;

REPPAS: Apanthsa se ayto.

MIXAHL: Eipate oti den prokeitai na akoloyqhsete ton olisqhro dromo poy akoloyqei o k. Pagkalos. Einai safes. Egw rwtw, poia einai ta stoixeia poy synistoyn thn olisqhrothta toy dromoy toy k. Pagkaloy;

REPPAS: Me kaleite na kanoyme ena dialogo epi ths oysias, na kanoyme enos eidoys politikh antiparaqesh, mia antallagh apocewn. Sas lew, loipon, oti se ayth thn poreia o k. Pagkalos qa meinei monos toy, den qa ton parakoloyqhsei h kybernhsh. Kai h kybernhsh den ton parakoloyqei, me to na mhn antapokrinetai se opoio diko toy sxoliasmo, prokeimenoy na mpei se dialogo mazi toy gia ayta ta qemata.

BITALHS: Prospaqw na katalabw ti exei mesolabhsei, apo thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, kai eisaste toso aixmhros shmera gia tis dhlwseis toys k. Pagkaloy, me dedomeno oti thn prohgoymenh ebdomada miloysate gia proswpikes apoceis, tis opoies den shmainei oti mporei na tis pairnei ypoch ths kai h kybernhsh.

REPPAS: Oi apanthseis poy pagiws dinw se ayta ta qemata, kinoyntai sto idio klima. Diapneontai apo to idio akribws krithrio, poy den einai allo apo thn prospaqeia poy kanei h kybernhsh na antapokriqei sthn entolh poy ths edwse o ellhnikos laos, prowqwntas to kybernhtiko ergo. Ayto einai to krithrio gia thn kybernhsh kai gia thn poreia ths xwras. Apo ekei kai pera, kaqenas mporei na ekfrazei tis apoceis toy. Den mporei na teqei opoiodhpote metro periorismoy, oson afora thn ekfrash twn apocewn toy. H kybernhsh, omws, kanei tis epiloges ths me qetiko tropo.

BITALHS: Epeidh anafereste sto kybernhtiko ergo, an katalabame oloi kala osoi diabasame tis dhlwseis toy k. Pagkaloy, toylaxiston qa legame oti oi kritikes aitiaseis toy htan panw sto qema grammatea kommatos kai hgesias kommatos.

REPPAS: Gi` ayto, loipon, mh me kaleite na syzhthsw mazi sas qemata poy aforoyn leitoyrgies toy Kinhmatos kai den aggizoyn thn kybernhsh. Enas logos parapanw, dwsate apanthsh kai eseis.

PAPPA: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, an anhsyxei o Prwqypoyrgos poy mia seira apo stelexh, ta opoia htan kai stenoi synergates toy sto parelqon, opws o k. Pagkalos, o k. Tsoykatos, kai mporw na anaferw kai polloys alloys, exoyn h apostasiopoihqei h einai sthn apenanti peripoy oxqh.

REPPAS: Ola ta stelexh kai ayta sta opoia anaferqhkate kai ta alla poy sthrijan sto parelqon ton Prwqypoyrgo, ton sthrizoyn kai shmera. O Prwqypoyrgos xwris th sthrijh ths koinoboyleytikhs pleiochfias den mporei na einai Prwqypoyrgos. O Prwqypoyrgos, loipon, den anhsyxei. Allwste, enas politikos o opoios einai ta pente teleytaia xronia Prwqypoyrgos ths xwras, meta apo dyo nikhfores eklogikes anametrhseis, pisteyw oti den mporei na anhsyxei gia otidhpote allo, ektos apo thn anagnwrismenh apo oloys mas yparjh diaforwn problhmatwn sthn ellhnikh koinwnia, poy prepei na antimetwpisei kai na lysei, mazi me toys synergates toy, me to synolo ths kybernhshs kai ths paratajhs, h opoia sthrizei thn kybernhsh ayth. Ara, h monh phgh anhsyxias poy mporei na exei o Prwqypoyrgos einai h prospaqeia epilyshs diaforwn problhmatwn ths xwras. Ayto einai phgh anhsyxias gia mas.

PAPPA: H emmesh h kai eyqeia, polles fores, apodokimasia, den synista ena stoixeio anhsyxias;

REPPAS: Kaqenas ekfrazetai me ton tropo poy ekeinos epilegei. Den einai dynato na apaiteis oloi oi anqrwpoi na xarakthrizontai apo mia tetoia omoiomorfia san na einai pleon, oxi anqrwpoi, alla kati allo, mhxanes, as poyme. Gnwrizete poly kala oti h kybernhsh mas kai an qelete na to epekteinw ligo, to Kinhma mas, to PASOK, sthn politikh diadromh toy exei zhsei tetoioy eidoys katastaseis, me tropo gonimo, dhmioyrgiko kai pantote bgainei anazwogonhmeno kai pio dynato, mesa apo th synqesh olwn aytwn twn apocewn.

KARGOYDH: Se allo qema. Se shmerinh synenteyjh toy o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas, me aformh zhthmata poy proekycan apo to oyranio, leei oti to zhthma pleon einai eyrytero, dhladh, ean kai kata poso htan skopimos aytos kaqaytos o polemos kai symplhrwnei oti anoigetai pia ena terastio qema syzhthshs se pagkosmio epipedo. Qelw, loipon, na rwthsw, ean h Ellada protiqetai stoys dieqneis organismoys, sthn E.E., sto NATO na epanaferei to zhthma kai na qesei qema epi ths oysias h poia allh xwra exei mia tetoia proqesh;

REPPAS: Prwta ap ola polemos egine. Den einai dynaton ayto to istoriko gegonos na to diagracoyme. Einai mia pragmatikothta. Gnwrizete oti h Ellada einai mia xwra poy eixe diaforetikh qesh. Protash mas htan na anazhthqei lysh sthn krish ths Gioygkoslabias me politika kai diplwmatika mesa, dhladh me eirhniko tropo. Hmastan antiqetoi se ayth thn prwtoboylia gi ayto kai den labame meros stis polemikes epixeirhseis. Bebaiws, exei prokycei ena qema, to opoio prepei na apasxolhsei th Dieqnh Koinothta. Emeis, ws xwra, h ellhnikh kybernhsh prwtostatei, prokeimenoy ayto to qema na anadeixqei, na sygkentrwqoyn ola ekeina ta stoixeia ta opoia einai aparaithta gia na gnwrizoyme thn pragmatikh katastash.

Stis 22 Ianoyarioy -periorizomai se ena paradeigma- qa synelqei to Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn ths E.E. H Ellada exei diamhnysei oti to qema ayto qa einai ek twn prwtwn poy qa qesei pros syzhthsh kai prepei na lhfqoyn sygkekrimenes apofaseis. Alla, kai sto plaisio toy NATO, exoyme qesei ayto to qema. Gnwrizete oti einai se ejelijh seira ereynwn se diafora epipeda gia th syllogh stoixeiwn, prokeimenoy na gnwrizoyme ti einai ayto poy prepei na kanoyme, peran twn oswn exoyn ginei mexri twra gia na antimetwpisoyme ta piqana problhmata.

ALEJAKH: Milhsate prohgoymenws gia ``th monaxikh poreia'' kai ``ton olisqhro dromo'', oson afora ton k. Pagkalo. Qa ton diagracei ton k. Pagkalo o Prwqypoyrgos;

REPPAS: Apanthsa se ayto prin, legontas xarakthristika pws den einai dynato na teqei astynomikoy xarakthra periorismos ston tropo ths ekfrashs twn apocewn.

ALEJAKH: Tote giati milate gia ``monaxikh poreia''; Einai monos toy, dhladh; Ean einai monos toy, to PASOK...

REPPAS: Ean qelete na syzhthsoyme thn ermhneia diaforwn lejewn, tote ayto einai qema allhs syzhthshs.

ALEJAKH: Oxi, kaqoloy. Aplws, moy fanhke antifatiko to ``monaxikh poreia''.

REPPAS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh synexizei to ergo ths, thn prospaqeia ths me bash thn entolh poy exei apo ton ellhniko lao. H kybernhsh den prokeitai na perispatai kaqe fora apo dhlwseis poy exoyn ena tetoio periexomeno kai ginontai me ayton ton tropo. Oson afora thn kybernhsh milhsa.

ALEJAKH: Dhladh, den yparxei qema diagrafhs toy k. Pagkaloy kai aytes oi fhmes poy kykloforoyn tis dyo teleytaies hmeres, oti dexetai polles eishghseis o Prwqypoyrgos gia diagrafh toy, den isxyoyn... Isxyoyn h oxi;

REPPAS: Prwta ap ola den exw thn aisqhsh kai th gnwsh qa elega oti o Prwqypoyrgos dexetai eishghseis h asxoleitai me to qema ayto toso entona, oso to ypolambanete eseis me thn erwthsh poy qetete.

ALEJAKH: Kai kati allo. Mhpws, shmera o Prwqypoyrgos eixe kapoia synanthsh me kapoion apo toys ekdotes;

REPPAS: Sas exw pei kai allh fora oti yparxei ena programma synanthsewn toy Prwqypoyrgoy me paragontes poy drasthriopoioyntai sthn ellhnikh koinwnia. Sto plaisio aytoy toy programmatos eixe kai qa synexisei na exei synanthseis.

ALEJAKH: Shmera eixe kapoia synanthsh;

REPPAS: Den apokleietai kai shmera na eixe kapoia tetoia synanthsh.

ALEJAKH: Gnwrizete eseis ean eixe h oxi;

REPPAS: To bebaio einai, ka Alejakh, oti gnwrizete eseis! Ara, afoy gnwrizete, giati qetete erwthmata.

ANTYPAS: Se synexeia ths erwthshs poy sas ypebale h k. Pappa, h opoia rwthse ean anhsyxei o Prwqypoyrgos, egw qa hqela na jerw ean qa prepei na anhsyxei o ellhnikos laos, dedomenoy oti o k. Pagkalos, koryfaio stelexos toy PASOK kai epilogh toy Prwqypoyrgoy se diafora ypoyrgeia -metajy aytwn Ejwterikwn kai Politismoy- amfisbhtei thn eyqykrisia kai th dynatothta toy Prwqypoyrgoy na epilegei synergates toy.

REPPAS: Opws katalabainw apo thn erwthsh sas, moy kanete thn timh na me kaleite na milhsw ek meroys toy ellhnikoy laoy. Na sas pw, loipon, ean anhsyxei o ellhnikos laos: Kata thn apoch mas -kai ekfrazoyme ena megalo kommati toy ellhnikoy laoy- o ellhnikos laos den prepei na anhsyxei, giati h kybernhsh ypo thn proedria toy Kwsta Shmith, opws mexri twra exei apodeijei, mporei na xeiristei ta eqnika kai ta koinwnika qemata me poly qetiko, apotelesmatiko tropo.

KWNSTANTHS: Problhmatizei thn kybernhsh h poreia toy Xrhmatisthrioy, giati meta kai apo thn teleytaia fora poy milhsame, yparxei mia poreia, dramatikh qa elega kai hdh oi ependytes arxizoyn kai organwnontai kai dhmioyrgoyn ejw apo to xwro ayto kapoia epeisodia. Ola ayta ta pragmata den synadoyn...

REPPAS: Kaqe poliths poy askei nomimws ta dikaiwmata toy den einai dynato na einai antipalos ths kybernhshs. Kata ta alla, oson afora th leitoyrgia toy Xrhmatisthrioy, exw kat epanalhch milhsei gia thn aytonomia toy, opws, epishs, exw dhlwsei pws oso ligotero miloyn oi politikoi gia to Xrhmatisthrio, toso kalytera einai ta pragmata . Mh me kaleite, loipon, se ena tetoio dialogo. Kalo einai oi politikoi na apofeygoyn na miloyn gia to Xrhmatisthrio kai malista me enan tropo, o opoios syxna to ephreazei arnhtika. Einai fanero ayto.

MOYRTZHS: Ti enoxlhse perissotero ton Prwqypoyrgo apo th synenteyjh Pagkaloy; Kai anaferomai se sygkekrimena shmeia, opws: oti ``exei pareisfrhsei o Mperloyskonismos sthn politikh zwh toy topoy'' h oti ``o Shmiths ekoce ena apo ta daktyla toy me thn apopomph toy'' h oti ``oi Trapezites den dinoyn th nikh'';

REPPAS: Exw apanthsei se ola ayta se epaneilhmmenes erwthseis. H politikh ths kybernhshs einai apolytws artimelhs! O ellhnikos laos ayto to gnwrizei, gi ayto empisteyetai ton Prwqypoyrgo kai thn kybernhsh.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Endexetai molis oloklhrwqei aytos o kyklos twn epafwn toy k. Shmith me toys epixeirhmaties poy drasthriopoioyntai sto xwro twn MME, na yparjei kapoia anakoinwsh apo thn pleyra sas, dedomenoy oti se palaioteres synanthseis, oxi apo ton idio xwro, alla me alloys foreis, opws me toys ekproswpoys toy SEB h alloys epixeirhmaties, eixame kapoio stigma gia to ti syzhthqhke h en pash periptwsei kapoies kybernhtikes anakoinwseis. Endexetai sto mellon na exoyme kati tetoio;

REPPAS: Exoyme milhsei analytika gia to qema ayto, thn perasmenh ebdomada. Den prokeitai na epanelqoyme.

Sas eyxaristw.

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