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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 12 Dekembrioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Qa sas enhmerwsw, en taxei, gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, twn epomenwn hmerwn.

Ayrio to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa proedreysei se syskech, me antikeimeno to aerodromio toy Ellhnikoy. Sth syskech qa laboyn meros oi ypoyrgoi Akhs Tsoxatzopoylos, Basw Papandreoy, Giannos Papantwnioy, Kwstas Laliwths, Nikos Xristodoylakhs, Xrhstos Berelhs kai armodoi paragontes.

Sth synexeia, stis 11.30, qa proedreysei se syskech, me antikeimeno to G' K.P.S. Qa symmetasxoyn oi ypoyrgoi Basw Papandreoy, G. Papantwnioy, K. Laliwths, N. Xristodoylakhs, Xr. Berelhs, T. Giannitshs, Xr. Paxtas kai armodioi paragontes.

Thn Pempth, stis 13.30, o Prwqypoyrgos paraxwrei thn kaqierwmenh synenteyjh Typoy stoys jenoys antapokrites.

Thn Paraskeyh, qa proedreysei sth synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, me antikeimeno thn politikh gia qemata politikhs prostasias.

Qa moy epitrecete na anaferqw, eisagwgikws, sth Synodo Koryfhs poy oloklhrwqhke sth Nikaia. Einai mia shmantikh stigmh gia thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Oi hgetes twn kratwn-melwn sxediasan kai elaban apofaseis gia to mellon ths E.E., afoy oi apofaseis aytes aforoyn ton tropo leitoyrgias ths, otan pleon dieyrynqei kai exei, anti twn shmerinwn melwn ths, enan poly megalytero ariqmo poy fqanei ta 27. Emeis ekfrazoyme ikanopoihsh, giati afenos epiteyxqhke enas sygkerasmos anamesa sthn apotelesmatikh leitoyrgia twn organwn ths E.E., prokeimenoy na lambanontai oi apofaseis kai na dromologoyntai ejelijeis pros thn kateyqynsh ths eyrwpaikhs enopoihshs kai oloklhrwshs. Kai afeteroy, giati exoyme mia epanabebaiwsh, ena sebasmo sto rolo kaqe kratoys, afoy anagnwrizetai pleon h isotimh symmetoxh kai symbolh olwn twn kratwn se ayth thn eyrwpaikh diadikasia. Mas endiaferei idiaiterws h poreia ths E.E. pros th dieyrynsh ths, afoy se ayth symperilambanetai kai h Kypros. H Kypros, sto orato mellon, qa einai melos ths E.E.

Oson afora ta qemata leitoyrgias ths E.E., mporei na pei kaneis oti h qesmikh isorropia, h opoia epiteyxqhke, mas ikanopoiei apolyta, afoy sta qemata zwtikhs eqnikhs shmasias exoyme th dynatothta, diathrwntas kai to mexri shmera isxyon dikaiwma, na proballoyme arnhsikyria. Kai anaferomai sta qemata ejwterikwn sxesewn, xrhmatodothsewn, qemata poy aforoyn th naytilia kai alloys tomeis.

Epishs, ginetai dekto, me thn apofash poy elhfqh, oti h E.E. ypo kaqestws ditths pleiochfias qa pairnei tis apofaseis ths. Qa apofasizei, dhladh, efoson sygkentrwnetai, toso h pleiochfia twn plhqysmwn ths E.E., oso kai toy ariqmoy twn kratwn-melwn ths. Htan ena qema to opoio syzhthqhke para poly, apotelese shmeio tribhs. Kapoies xwres hqelan na isxysei, se ayth thn periptwsh gia th lhch apofasewn, mono h pleiochfia twn plhqysmwn. Telika, egine dekto na isxysei kai h pleiochfia twn kratwn-melwn ths E.E., prokeimenoy na labei mia apofash. Gnwrizete, epishs, oti kai se qemata poy mas aforoyn, sxetika me th symmetoxh Ellhna Epitropoy sthn Commission, ton ariqmo twn Eyrwboyleytwn kai ton ariqmo twn chfwn poy qa diaqetoyme sto Eyrwpaiko Symboylio, oi telikes apofaseis antapokrinontai se ena rolo poy epiqymoyme na exei h Ellada sto plaisio ths eyrwpaikhs diadikasias. Kai me ayth thn ennoia, ekfrazoyme kai pali thn ikanopoihsh mas. Htan mia qetikh ejelijh.

Kleinw, legontas pws peran twn qematwn ths Diakybernhtikhs, sta opoia poly syntoma anaferqhka, syzhthqhkan kai alla qemata, ta opoia, to prwton, h E.E. eixe proseggisei sto Symboylio Koryfhs, sto plaisio ths portogalikhs Proedrias, sth Lissabona kai sth Feira. Qemata poy aforoyn ton koinwniko xarakthra ths E.E., opws einai ta qemata apasxolhshs. Xairomaste, giati kai me th dikh mas symbolh, h E.E. rixnei to baros, ekdhlwnei to endiaferon ths kai pairnei prwtoboylies kai metra gia thn antimetwpish kai epilysh kai aytwn twn qematwn. Kai epishs, gnwrizete poly kala, oti, para to oti den apotelese antikeimeno syzhthshs sto plaisio ayths ths Synodoy Koryfhs, ayth thn periodo pantws sto plaisio ths E.E., ekleise, me poly qetiko gia mas tropo, to qema ths etairikhs sxeshs E.E. -Toyrkias. Htan mia poly shmantikh ejelijh, thn opoia epishs xairetizoyme.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

BITALHS: Ekfrasate ki eseis thn ikanopoihsh ths kybernhshs gia tis apofaseis, en pash periptwsei, gia to symbibasmo kai tis apofaseis poy elhfqhsan sth Nikaia. Wstoso, sthn Aqhna yphrje enas problhmatismos kai arketes epifylajeis apo thn antipoliteysh. Ypenqymizw kai th dhlwsh toy k. Karamanlh kai tis epishmanseis toy KKE kai allwn paragontwn ths politikhs zwhs, peri mh wfelimwn symbibasmwn, peri mizerhs diaxeirishs twn pragmatwn, k.t.l. Pws apantate se ayta;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete pws ejelixqhke ayth h Synodos Koryfhs. Oi diapragmateyseis htan polywres kai epipones. Asfalws, aytes oi syzhthseis exoyn kai to xarakthra ths diapragmateyshs. Sthn E.E., h Ellada einai me dikh ths epilogh, epeidh to epiqymei h syntriptikh pleiochfia toy ellhnikoy laoy, epeidh ayto apotelei politikh epilogh twn perissoterwn kommatwn sth xwra mas. An hmastan monoi mas sthn Eyrwph, asfalws gia polla qemata isws oi apofaseis na eixan ena diaforetiko xrwmatismo. Gnwrizete, omws, oti sto plaisio ayths ths diapragmateyshs, sthn opoia ki emeis symmetexoyme, sto plaisio ayths ths "oikogeneias" sthn opoia qeloyme na parameinoyme, oi syzhthseis oi opoies eginan odhghsan se ena apotelesma, to opoio einai apolytws ikanopoihtiko. Diasfalizontai ta eqnika mas symferonta, idiaiterws epi twn qematwn poy exoyn gia mas zwtikh shmasia, h isxys ths xwras mas paramenei sto akeraio, opws mexri twra, oson afora thn askhsh twn dikaiwmatwn ths. Milw gia to dikaiwma ths arnhsikyrias. Sta de qemata poy aforoyn th leitoyrgia ths E.E. kai sthn kateyqynsh antimetwpishs toy yparxontos kai apo polloys anaferomenoy ws dhmokratikoy elleimmatos, kai ekei eginan shmantika bhmata, doqentos oti h qesh mas gia thn epiteyjh ths ditths pleiochfias, me thn epiteyjh dhladh kai toy megalyteroy ariqmoy twn kratwn-melwn, egine telika dekth. Mia qesh thn opoia, kat` arxhn, kapoies xwres -oi legomenes megales xwres- thn eixan aporricei. Ara, loipon, kai di` aytoy toy tropoy diasfalizetai h xwra mas, h isotimh symmetoxh ths stis eyrwpaikes ejelijeis. Kai bebaiws, ayth h diadikasia ths dieyrynshs ths E.E. afora emas olws idiaiterws, epeidh symperilambanei kai thn Kypro. Ara, loipon, aytes oi kathgories poy diatypwnontai den exoyn bash, einai pantelws asthriktes. Asfalws, ginontai gia logoys antipoliteytikoys kai mono. Nomizw, omws, oti aytoi poy tis diatypwnoyn mallon den gnwrizoyn ta eswterika ths E.E. Den eixan th dynatothta -pws qa ginotan, allwste ayto;- na laboyn meros stis syzhthseis, na laboyn meros se aytes tis sklhres diapragmateyseis. Ara, miloyn apo apostash. Omws, h apostash ayth den toys epitrepei na einai arnhtikoi se ayth thn ejelijh. Poly perissotero, otan ta stoixeia twn apofasewn poy elhfqhsan einai ayta ta opoia martyroyn, me ton kalytero tropo, poso breqhkame apolytws konta stoys stoxoys poy eixame ejarxhs qesei. H Ellada petyxe toys stoxoys ths kai ayto einai poly shmantiko. Qa elega oti thn teleytaia periodo, se ola ta qemata ta opoia anaferontai sthn E.E., h Ellada petyxe na proseggisei oloys toys stoxoys poy eixe qesei. Kai ayto, anamfibola, synista mia epityxia.

ANTYPAS: Qa hqela na mas enhmerwsete gia poio logo anablhqhke h shmerinh synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me th dekada twn boyleytwn;

REPPAS: Gia ton idio logo poy allaje to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, meta thn ejelijh poy eixe h Synodos Koryfhs sth Nikaia. Thn prohgoymenh ebdomada o Prwqypoyrgos eixe sxediasei ena programma to opoio se polla shmeia allaje. Epeidh, o Prwqypoyrgos, xqes, den mporoyse na einai parwn, afoy paremeine sth Nikaia, gi ayto kai tropopoihse to programma toy.

ANTYPAS: Problepetai kapoia allh synanthsh;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos exei diafores synanthseis poy den aforoyn syskeceis h synergasies sto plaisio leitoyrgias kybernhtikwn organwn h ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas toy PASOK.

ANTYPAS: H synanthsh qa ginei me thn idia synqesh poy eixe anakoinwqei;

REPPAS: H synanthsh qa pragmatopoihqei me th synqesh poy eixe anakoinwqei, eyqys ws to programma aytwn twn synanthsewn toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys boyleytes toy Kinhmatos teqei se efarmogh.

MIXAHL: Dhladh, oi 15 hgetes katoxyrwsan to minimum koinwniko eggyhmeno eisodhma, opws qa legame, ths Eyrwphs me tis apofaseis poy phran;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola den teqhke sthn E.E. tetoio qema. Giati, twra eseis me thn anafora ayth den kanete tipota allo para na qigete ena sygkekrimeno titlo mias politikhs. H politikh gia thn enisxysh ths apasxolhshs, thn antimetwpish ths anergias exei hdh apofasistei apo th Synodo ths Lissabonas. Den mporei na exei aisia ekbash, para monon an metajy twn allwn ejasfalistoyn diafores proypoqeseis opws einai, fer` eipein, h ychlh ayjhsh toy eqnikoy eisodhmatos xrono me to xrono kai h opoia prepei na fqanei panw apo to 3%. Ara, sto xwro ths E.E. oi syzhthseis aforoyn aytes tis pleyres. Emeis exoyme pei oti qa exoyme ena ryqmo anaptyjhs sthn ayjhsh toy eqnikoy eisodhmatos poy qa jeperna to 5%, ta epomena xronia. Etsi, mporoyme na ejasfalisoyme kalyteres synqhkes diabiwshs gia toys polites. Kai gnwrizete poly kala oti teleytaia elhfqhsan apo thn kybernhsh apofaseis gia sygkekrimena metra poy tiqentai se efarmogh apo to neo xrono, me thn ektelesh, dhladh, toy Proypologismoy toy 2001. Metra ta opoia aforoyn toys xamhloeisodhmaties, eite syntajioyxoys, eite misqwtoys. Politikh poy na exei ayto ton titlo den apofasisthke sthn E.E., den apotelese antikeimeno syzhthshs sthn E.E.. Oson afora thn kybernhsh to qema ayto mas exei apasxolhsei palaiotera. Exoyme pei oti xreiazetai na to melethsoyme. Den to antimetwpizoyme twra. Qa epanelqoyme en kairw, otan krinoyme oti eimaste etoimoi na to antimetwpisoyme kai na laboyme thn telikh apofash mas. Alla, twra, den antimetwpizoyme ayto to qema, etsi me ayth th morfh.

MIXAHL: Profanws h kybernhsh, en kairw, qa to apofasisei h idia. Omws, 52 synadelfoi sas fainetai oti to prosdiorisan na asxolhqeite twra.

REPPAS: Exei perasei peripoy mia ebdomada. Eseis epanerxeste se ena qema poy exei parei to dromo toy. Gnwrizete kala oti o Kanonismos ths Boylhs problepei me poio tropo oi boyleytes olwn twn kommatwn kai toy kybernhtikoy kommatos kai h kybernhsh syndialegontai, syzhtoyn, synergazontai, sto plaisio twn ergasiwn ths Boylhs. Ayto ginetai kai sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh. Ara, loipon, ta pragmata exoyn parei to dromo toys.

MIXAHL: Xqes, eixame kapoies kataggelies apo thn ka Kanellh, oti yparxoyn kapoioi paragontes, kapoioi mhxanismoi sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn gia thn politikh prowqhsh toy k. G. Papandreoy, kai peran toy YPEJ, pros thn prwqypoyrgia h opoydhpote alloy, se synergasia me kapoioys kykloys, profanws, ap o,ti katalabame, amerikanikwn yphresiwn k.l.p. H kybernhsh qelei na kanei ena sxolio ep aytoy;

REPPAS: Na sxoliasoyme ti; To oti kataggelletai o k. Papandreoy, oti epidiwkei thn prowqhsh toy;

MIXAHL: Oti ton prowqoyn oi Amerikanoi. Ayto kataggellei.

REPPAS: O ellhnikos laos, o opoios exei krish, chfise ayth thn kybernhsh, metajy twn allwn, epeidh kai ston tomea ths ejwterikhs politikhs h kybernhsh exei na epideijei qetika apotelesmata. Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn thn prohgoymenh periodo htan o G. Papandreoy. O G. Papandreoy einai YPEJ kai se ayth thn kybernhsh. Kai gnwrizete oti se analoges periptwseis o ellhnikos laos exei ekdhlwsei thn empistosynh kai thn epidokimasia toy pros to proswpo kai to ergo toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn. Ara, loipon, tetoioy eidoys kataggelies -xrhsimopoiw th dikh sas lejh- nomizw oti einai xwris periexomeno. Einai ``spaqies ston aera'', opws leme, giati o G. Papandreoy me thn politikh toy einai parwn sta dhmosia pragmata ths xwras. H politikh toy einai ayth poy ton katajiwnei. H politikh toy einai ayth, h opoia kalei kai prokalei ton opoiodhpote na krinei ton G. Papandreoy. H ypokeimenikh apoch diaforwn paragontwn, poly perissotero otan gnwrizete oti aytoi oi paragontes einai politikoi kai kommatikoi antipaloi, exei asfalws ypobaqmismenh shmasia, giati den einai tipota allo, para apotelesma mias profanoys, profanestaths skopimothtas, sthn opoia kineitai opoiodhpote diatypwnei tetoioy eidoys kathgories.

GIANNAKOPOYLOS: Shmera o Arxiepiskopos apo ton Iero Nao toy Agioy Spyridwnos ekane logo oti sth Nikaia ths Gallias chfisthke h Xarta peri Anqrwpinwn Dikaiwmatwn kai eipe oti egine agwnas gia ejobelismo toy arqroy poy anaferetai sth xristianikothta ths Eyrwphs. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

REPPAS: Prwta ap ola, pragmati, chfisthke h Xarta twn qemeliwdwn dikaiwmatwn twn atomwn. Gnwrizete pws metajy twn allwn diatajewn perilambanetai ki ekeinh poy anaferetai sthn Arxh ths anejiqrhskias. Asfalws, kaqe poliths sto plaisio ths E.E. exei ta idia dikaiwmata, anejarthtws ths eqnikhs katagwghs toy h twn qrhskeytikwn pepoiqhsewn toy. Ayto einai mia arxh poy exei katoxyrwqei kai se ola ta eyrwpaika Syntagmata. Den einai kainofanhs arxh. To antiqeto, ean den eixe yioqethqei h arxh ths anejiqrhskias, qa mporoyse na pei kaneis oti qa apoteloyse opisqodromhsh ths E.E. pros to mesaiwna. Kata ta alla, gnwrizete pws h ellhnikh kybernhsh prwtostathse, wste ayth h Xarta twn qemeliwdwn dikaiwmatwn twn atomwn na apokthsei kai desmeytikh isxy. Na exei, dhladh, nomikh ajia. Na einai ena keimeno ths Synqhkhs. Alles xwres ayto to aperrican. Prepei na sas pw oti polles diadhlwseis poy eginan apo polites diaforwn xwrwn, htan diadhlwseis oi opoies proebalan ayto to aithma, gia to opoio -epanalambanw- h Ellada eixe apo thn arxh safh qesh. Oloi oi polites ths E.E., anejarthtws twn epimeroys stoixeiwn, ta opoia synqetoyn thn proswpikothta toys, thn katagwgh toys, ton tropo zwhs toys h tis pepoiqhseis toys, prepei na exoyn ta idia dikaiwmata sthn E.E. Ayth, allwste, einai kai h ajia, h oysia, to periexomeno kai to nohma ths isotimias sthn koinwnia twn politwn.

MPEKATWROY: Anamenetai na episkefqei ayth thn ebdomada thn Ellada o Gioygkoslabos Proedros k. Kostoynitsa;

REPPAS: Pragmati, paramenei ekkremhs h episkech toy Gioygkoslaboy Proedroy sthn Ellada. H prosklhsh exei apeyqynqei edw kai kairo. Dia ths diplwmatikhs odoy ginontai oi synennohseis. Molis ejeyreqei o katallhlos xronos poy dieykolynei kai tis dyo pleyres, qa ginei ayth h episkech, h opoia den topoqeteitai mesa se ayth thn ebdomada.

KARGOYDH: Me aformh kapoia dhmosieymata, yparxei ontws sygkekrimenos xronos, peri thn Anoijh, mexri ton opoio oi xwres ths E.E. qa prepei na anaprosarmosoyn ta asfalistika toys systhmata;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti h kaqe xwra akoloyqei th dikh ths politikh ston tomea twn koinwnikwn asfalisewn. Epishs gnwrizete oti ston tomea twn koinwnikwn asfalisewn parathroyntai problhmata se polles xwres kai sth dikh mas. Den prepei na meinoyme adiaforoi. Qa prepei na laboyme tis apofaseis mas. H diadikasia ayth fainetai oti einai se parallhlh ejelijh se diafores xwres ths E.E. Emeis exoyme anaqesei se megalo jeno oiko na oloklhrwsei th meleth gia to asfalistiko systhma ths xwras mas. Ta porismata ayths ths meleths qa ta laboyme ypoch mas, prokeimenoy na analaboyme, en synexeia, kai meta apo ton koinwniko dialogo poy qa ginei, th sxetikh nomoqetikh prwtoboylia, h opoia qa prepei na ypologizetai peri to telos toy prwtoy ejamhnoy toy epomenoy etoys.

KARGOYDH: H enarjh ths diadikasias lete@

REPPAS: H diadikasia ayth qa jekinhsei, opws sas eipa, me koinwniko dialogo, stis arxes toy neoy xronoy, afoy qa exoyme sth diaqesh mas ta porismata ayths ths meleths. Me thn oloklhrwsh toy koinwnikoy dialogoy, qa laboyme tis aparaithtes nomoqetikes prwtoboylies.

KARGOYDH: Epomenws, sto telos toy prwtoy ejamhnoy qa exei kleisei@

REPPAS: Pisteyoyme oti mporei na exei kleisei to qema ayto. Einai kati poy exoyme ejaggeilei oti qa to antimetwpisoyme sto prwto ejamhno., peri ton Aprilio toy 2001. Ta asfalistika systhmata se olh thn E.E. kai sth xwra mas qa prepei na einai ygih, na diaqetoyn poroys, prokeimenoy na antapokriqoyn stis ypoxrewseis toys. H opoia proseggish ginei, qa ginei ypo to prisma kapoiwn periorismwn, kapoiwn kanonwn, oti den qa qigoyn wrima asfalistika dikaiwmata, oti aytoi poy efqase h wra na paroyn th syntajh toys, qa prepei na einai sigoyroi oti qa paroyn th syntajh toys, xwris na diakybeyetai to epipedo toy eisodhmatos poy mexri twra exoyn ejasfalisei. Ayta, loipon, einai qemata, ta opoia qa mas apasxolhsoyn, idiaitera thn epomenh periodo. Edw qa eimaste na ta syzhtoyme.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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