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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 24 Noembrioy 2000

TYPOY APO TO GENIKO GRAMMATEA TOY YPOYRGEIOY TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS NIKO AQANASAKH

Geia sas.

O Prwqypoyrgos brisketai, opws gnwrizete, sto Zagkremp, sth diaskech twn hgetwn twn kratwn-melwn ths E.E. me toys hgetes twn xwrwn twn Dytikwn Balkaniwn, diaskech gia th staqeropoihsh stis xwres aytes kai thn epitaxynsh ths proseggishs toys me thn E.E. Qa epistrecei to brady, stis 19.45.

Stis 20.45 qa exei synanthsh me ton Proedro ths Gallikhs Dhmokratias k. Zak Sirak. Qa akoloyqhsei deipno ergasias stis 21.00 kai anamenontai dhlwseis ston Typo, stis 22.30.

O Proedros ths Gallikhs Dhmokratias kai proedreywn toy Symboylioy ths E.E., ayth thn periodo, synodeyetai apo ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ths Gallias k. Betrin.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

SOYGLERHS: Se ayth th synanthsh o k. Shmiths mhpws ekfrasei th dysareskeia toy gia thn kaqysterhsh toy keimenoy ths etairikhs sxeshs ths E.E. me thn Toyrkia;

AQANASAKHS: Den ekfrasame kapoia dysareskeia se ayto, otan egine h parapomph toy qematos se epomenh hmeromhnia, sto Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn. Dhlwsame apo thn prwth stigmh pws den einai qema dysareskeias h mh. Einai qema epimonhs stis ellhnikes qeseis. Oi ellhnikes qeseis einai gnwstes. To qema qa syzhthqei kai pali sto plaisio ths syzhthshs poy ginetai gia thn proetoimasia toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy ths Nikaias.

ANTYPAS: Yparxei shmera ena prwtoselido dhmosieyma sthn efhmerida ``TO BHMA'', poy anaferei oti o Prwqypoyrgos zhthse enhmerwsh gia to Xrhmatisthrio. Prwton, ean exei symbei kati tetoio kai deyteron, ean isxyei ayto poy anaferei to dhmosieyma oti exei zhthsei analytika stoixeia gia qesmikes parembaseis, to baqmo ths diafaneias kai thn apotelesmatikothta twn metrwn, dedomenoy oti exoyn ginei syskeceis gi` ayta ta qemata.

AQANASAKHS: Den yparxei kapoia eidikh entolh toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia na toy ypoblhqei kapoia eidikh ekqesh. O oikonomikos symboylos toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Gkikas Xardoybelhs, sto plaisio twn armodiothtwn toy, ejetazei kai ypoballei, kata kairoys, mnhmonia, ekqeseis k.lp. se qemata ths epikairothtas h mh.

ANTYPAS: Ti anaferei dhladh; Yparxei kapoio tetoio mnhmonio, kapoia tetoia ekqesh@;

AQANASAKHS: Sas apanthsa.

ANTYPAS: Den katalaba ean isxyei to dhmosieyma. Exei zhthsei kati tetoio o Prwqypoyrgos;

AQANASAKHS: Apanthsa se ayto poly sygkekrimena. Eipa oti den einai qema kapoias eidikhs entolhs toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

KALARITHS: O k. Mhtsotakhs dhlwse shmera oti o Andreas Papandreoy eixe etoimasei ena sxedio symfwnias, me mesolabhsh toy Gkonzales, gia to qema ths tews basilikhs perioysias. Jerete se ti akribws synistato ayto to sxedio;

AQANASAKHS: Sto qema ths legomenhs basilikhs perioysias, h prwth erwthsh me thn opoia qewreite oti prepei na asxolhqoyme einai gia ta qemata ths dekaetias toy 1980 h gia kati pio epikairo;

KALARITHS: Rwtw ean gnwrizete ti sxedio htan ayto.

AQANASAKHS: Rwtw ean kapoios allos exei kamia pio epikairh erwthsh kai qa epanelqoyme sth dikh sas.

GARGALAKOS: Exoyn yparjei dhlwseis kai ejelijeis gyrw apo ayto to qema ths legomenhs basilikhs perioysias kai exoyme kai th qesh toy k. Mhtsotakh, oti h kybernhsh prepei na dei to qema kai na katalhjei se ena symbibasmo. Poio einai to diko sas sxolio;

AQANASAKHS: Exoyn yparjei dhlwseis kai apo ton ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs k. Staqopoylo kai apo thn ypoyrgo anaplhrwth Ejwterikwn ka Papazwh poy exoyn xeiristei ayta ta qemata kai ara gnwrizete th qesh ths kybernhshs. Yparxei pragmati ayth h apofash toy Eyrwpaikoy Dikasthrioy Anqrwpinwn Dikaiwmatwn. H apofash ayth anaferetai se mia parabiash toy 1oy arqroy toy prosqetoy prwtokolloy ths eyrwpaikhs symbashs. Epeidh polla exoyn grafei shmera, parakalw na prosejete oti den ginontai dekta apo to dikasthrio ta shmeia poy eixe yposthrijei o tews basilias gia thn prosbolh ths ajioprepeias toy, thn prosbolh ths proswpikothtas toy, thn prosbolh toy onomatos toy k.t.l. H apofash periorizetai sthn oikonomikh diekdikhsh.

O idios o tews basilias epilegei na "metapesei" sthn kathgoria toy idiwth kai na antidikei me to ellhniko dhmosio, diekdikwntas kapoia disekatommyria draxmes. Einai dikh toy ayth h epilogh. Akomh kai enas tews basilias exei to dikaiwma toy aytoejeytelismoy toy.

Oson afora ta loipa qemata poy qesate, sas qymizw oti o nomos toy 1994, se sxesh me thn ellhnikh ennomh tajh exei kriqei syntagmatikos apo to Anwtato Eidiko Dikasthrio, meta tis dyo apofaseis poy prohghqhkan, toy Areioy Pagoy kai toy Symboylioy Epikrateias. Ayto se o,ti afora th dikh mas ennomh tajh. H Ellada, bebaiws, metexei, einai meros ths eyrwpaikhs ennomhs tajhs. Den tiqetai qema, den tiqetai erwthma gia thn Ellada, sebasmoy h mh twn apofasewn toy Eyrwpaikoy Dikasthrioy. To ypogrammizw gia na eimaste safeis. Einai mia dikastikh diadikasia, h opoia brisketai se ejelijh. Yparxei kai epomeno stadio kai ekei to ellhniko dhmosio qa proselqei me ta epixeirhmata toy.

To parelqon exei katagrafei istorika kai ean syzhthsoyme to qema ths legomenhs basilikhs perioysias, analytika edw, prepei na jekinhsoyme poly pio pisw, apo to 1974 kai na doyme mia sygkekrimenh diadoxh nomwn, Proedrikwn Diatagmatwn, ypoyrgikwn apofasewn kai diadikasiwn.

Epeidh o k. Mhtsotakhs milaei gia nomikoys akrobatismoys, moy epitrepei na anaferqw se politikoys akrobatismoys kai na qymisw -etsi gia thn istoria- tis hmeres ekeines ths prwqypoyrgias toy poy h kinhth perioysia efeyge kryfiws, apo to Tatoi se "containers", kleista, xwris kaneis na exei elegjei, xwris kaneis na gnwrizei to periexomeno toys. Me mia diadikasia, dhladh, poy den tima thn tote kybernhsh.

Prepei na pw oti, pera apo to sygkekrimeno qema ths legomenhs basilikhs perioysias, sto opoio anagnwrizetai ayth h parabiash toy arqroy 1 toy prosqetoy prwtokolloy ths symbashs gia ton Kwnstantino, thn adelfh kai th qeia toy, yparxei ena parallhlo qema, poy ofeilw na epishmanw. Kai to qema ayto einai h proqymia me thn opoia boyleytes ths N.D. prostrexoyn, ws aytoklhtoi synhgoroi, gia tis oikonomikes apaithseis toy tews basilia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O tews basilias, thn perioysia toy den zhtaei; Ti zhthse; To qrono; Thn perioysia zhthse kai ayto petyxe. Ti lete oti "aytoejeytelisthke"; H xwra aytoejeytelizetai me ayth thn apofash.

AQANASAKHS: Ayth einai h apoch sas, thn opoia mporeite na gracete. Yparxoyn kai alles apofaseis toy Eyrwpaikoy Dikasthrioy. To Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio anagnwrizei thn ennoia toy dhmosioy symferontos. Mila gia mia dikaih ejisorrophsh metajy ths prostasias ths idiokthsias afenos kai toy dhmosioy symferontos afeteroy. Sth dikh sas topoqethsh, exw thn entypwsh oti agnoeitai to dhmosio symferon apolytws.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti eixe symfwnhsei kai o Areios Pagos;

AQANASAKHS: Eipa oti, meta tis apofaseis toy Areioy Pagoy kai toy Symboylioy Epikrateias, oi opoies prohghqhkan, yphrje apofash toy Anwtatoy Eidikoy Dikasthrioy. Einai profanes oti gia na paei to qema sto Anwtato Eidiko Dikasthrio yphrje diafwnia twn dyo dikasthriwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati, to qema toy qronoy exei lhjei me dhmochfisma. Exei teleiwsei ayth h istoria.

AQANASAKHS: Den yparxei qema qronoy sthn Ellada. Yparxei to qema enos idiwth, o opoios antidikei me to ellhniko Dhmosio. Den yparxei politeiako qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den einai o monos.

AQANASAKHS: Bebaiws, sto idio Dikasthrio, to Dikasthrio Anqrwpinwn Dikaiwmatwn, exei kerdisei gia paradeigma o Andreadhs, kata apofasews ths kybernhsews Karamanlh, gia ta dika toy qemata.

KWNSTANTOPOYLOS: Oi dhlwseis toy k. Staqopoyloy, shmera, afhnoyn aixmes kai gia ton Kwnstantino Karamanlh kai gia ton Andrea Papandreoy, alla kai gia ton Eyaggelo Benizelo. Einai etsi;

AQANASAKHS: Ayto -to an, dhladh, afhnoyn aixmes- einai mia ermhneia twn dhlwsewn. Sas eipa oti, an qeloyme na doyme istorika to qema, mporoyme na kanoyme mia makra analysh gia to xeirismo. Na sas pw ena aplo paradeigma, epeidh moy lete gia to nomo toy 1994. Ean to 1994 eixe akoloyqhqei h logikh ths apallotriwshs katopin katabolhs apozhmiwshs, qa eprepe na thrhqei to arqro 17 toy Syntagmatos, to opoio problepei plhrh apozhmiwsh. Antiqetws, sth diadikasia toy Eyrwpaikoy Dikasthrioy Anqrwpinwn Dikaiwmatwn den problepetai plhrhs, alla eylogh apozhmiwsh, h opoia synartatai, sthn idia thn apofash, me to dhmosio symferon. Sas lew mono ena paradeigma gia na problhmatisteite.

KWNSTANTOPOYLOS: Telika, oi eyqynes poy briskontai;

AQANASAKHS: Exw apanthsei gi` ayta ta qemata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Tis eyqynes gia to xeirismo ayto, gia thn apofash ayth, poios tis exei;

AQANASAKHS: Yparxei mia dikastikh diadikasia. Otan eisai se ena dikasthrio, sto opoio prosfeygei o antidikos, mporei na kerdiseis h na xaseis mia ypoqesh. Sas lew, loipon, oti o Kwnstantinos Glijmpoyrgk -h opoio allo epwnymo qelei na epilejei- prosefyge sto dikasthrio. Se kapoia qemata den dikaiwqhke kai se kapoio allo dikaiwqhke.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sthn oysia dikaiwqhke.

AQANASAKHS: Ayth einai h apoch sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia thn perioysia koybentiazoyme tosa xronia. Den milame gia to onoma.

AQANASAKHS: Oxi. Tosa xronia den koybentiazoyme to qema ths legomenhs basilikhs perioysias. Tosa xronia, epi dekaeties, o topos talanisthke apo to pragmatiko problhma, poy htan to politeiako. To gegonos oti syzhtoyme mono to qema ths legomenhs basilikhs perioysias, shmainei -kai einai poly eyxaristo ayto- oti to politeiako exei lyqei epi ths oysias, meta apo tosa xronia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: To amfisbhtei kanenas ayto;

AQANASAKHS: Kaqoloy. Mia fora symfwnoyme kai prepei na diamartyrhqeite;

BITALHS: Yphrje prospaqeia symbibasmoy ejw apo to dikasthrio, anaforika me kapoies apozhmiwseis me thn afairesh forwn k.t.l., poy qa zhtoyse o tews basilias;

AQANASAKHS: Sth dekaetia toy ' 80 yphrjan tetoies syzhthseis. Den einai agnwsta ayta. Ki an den apanthsa analytikotera prin, einai giati ta qemata ayta einai gnwsta kai exoyn polles fores anaferqei.

BITALHS: Na ginw pio sygkekrimenos: Otan o k. Glijmpoyrgk dhlwse thn proqesh toy na prosfygei sto Dikasthrio Anqrwpinwn Dikaiwmatwn, egine kapoia kinhsh ejwdikastikoy symbibasmoy;

AQANASAKHS: Den yparxei tetoio qema. Shmera, to ellhniko Dhmosio qa kanei toys ypologismoys toy, me ola ta symparamartoynta kai qa proxwrhsoyme sth diadikasia, opws problepetai sto epipedo ths nomoqesias toy dikasthrioy.

MPOYRDARAS: Otan telika fqasoyme sto shmeio na katabalei to ellhniko Dhmosio to opoio xrhmatiko poso ston tews basilia, h katabolh aytoy toy posoy qa ginei se poio proswpo, diadikastika ennow, pros ton tews basilia, pros ton Kwnstantino;

AQANASAKHS: Einai ena erwthma ayto. Giati, apo thn wra poy o tews basilias diekdikei thn idiothta toy Ellhna polith, gnwrizete oti sthn ennomh tajh mas den anagnwrizontai titloi genika. Ara, prepei na epilejei kapoio epwnymo, prepei na graftei se kapoia dhmotologia, na ekdwsei taytothta, k.t.l. Ayto den to syndyazw me to qema ths katabolhs h mh ths apozhmiwshs toy opoioy posoy, giati den qelw na emplakw se ayto. Milw genikotera gia th stash toy idioy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H apofash se ti onoma bghke;

AQANASAKHS: H apofash exei dhmosieyqei kai leei ayta poy sas eipa. Yphrjan kai alla qemata gia ta opoia prosefyge o tews basilias, opws to qema ths prosbolhs ths proswpikothtas, ths prosbolhs ths ajioprepeias toy, ths prosbolhs toy onomatos toy. Ayta, hdh, apo propersi, apo thn Epitroph toy Dikasthrioy exoyn aporrifqei. To Dikasthrio, shmera, sthn Olomeleia toy, paramenei se aytes tis qeseis ths Epitrophs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Jerete se ti onoma bghke h apofash;

AQANASAKHS: Prosfeygontes poy anagnwrise to Dikasthrio htan o Kwnstantinos, h adelfh toy Eirhnh kai h qeia toy Aikaterinh.

KOYRTAKHS: Gia thn ypoqesh ths bilas ths Ekalhs hqela na sas rwthsw@

AQANASAKHS: Den einai qema ths enhmerwshs twn politikwn syntaktwn, apo emena, ayto.

KOYRTAKHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh protiqetai na analabei prwtoboylia gia na prostateyqei h teleytaia oikia toy Andrea Papandreoy.

AQANASAKHS: Den einai qema ths kybernhshs ayto. H erwthsh sas -ean nomizete oti yparxei pedio- qa mporoyse na einai qema toy PASOK.

Sas eyxaristw. Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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