Greek Government Press Briefing, 00-11-17

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 17 Noembrioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Qa moy epitrecete na anaferqw se ayth thn idiaiterh mera, th shmerinh. Eikosi epta xronia meta, to nohma kai to mhnyma ths ejegershs toy Polytexneioy diathroyn sto akeraio thn ajia toys, apoteloyn systatika stoixeia ths poreias ths dhmokratikhs Elladas sto sygxrono kosmo.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KOYIN: Shmera bghke akyros o diagwnismos gia thn EAB. Qa hqela na sas kanw mia genikoterh erwthsh gia to poso qa ephreasei th genikoterh poreia twn idiwtikopoihsewn, giati eixe dwsei idiaiterh barythta h kybernhsh sto qema ayto.

REPPAS: To programma twn idiwtikopoihsewn ejelissetai kanonika. Oi idiwtikopoihseis ginontai me gnwmona to symferon toy koinwnikoy synoloy kai bebaiws thn poreia ths ellhnikhs oikonomias poy epiqymoyme na einai mia poreia peraiterw anaptyjhs. Ayto to opoio prepei na epishmanw einai oti apo thn prwth stigmh h kybernhsh exei mia politikh, thn opoia me synepeia threi. Jekaqarisame oti mono efoson ejasfalizontai oroi kai proypoqeseis, efoson ejasfalizetai to kaqe fora epidiwkomeno timhma, qa proxwroyme sthn idiwtikopoihsh mias epixeirhsiakhs monadas. Me ayth thn ennoia, pragmati, h kybernhsh, opws dhlwse kai o armodios ypoyrgos, apofasise oti einai agonos o sxetikos diagwnismos, epeidh oi prosfores poy eixan ypoblhqei den antapokrinontan stis apaithseis toy ellhnikoy Dhmosioy, oson afora to timhma poy eprepe na katablhqei, logw ths ajias poy exei ayth h epixeirhsh. Epishs, oi prosfores aytes diapistwqhke oti paroysiazan kai kapoies alles nomikes ateleies. Aytoi, loipon, htan oi logoi poy odhghsan thn kybernhsh na labei ayth thn apofash.

SKOYRHS: Lete oti proxwrhsan me synepeia oi idiwtikopoihseis. Xronika den proxwrhsan me synepeia, epesan ejw sto xroniko orizonta. Mhpws sas empodizei se ayto kai h syzhthsh peri diaplokhs kai fobatai h kybernhsh na proxwrhsei;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh exei jekaqarh politikh. Epanalambanoyme oti h politikh ayth einai apolytws diafanhs, einai politikh poy antapokrinetai sto symferon ths ellhnikhs oikonomias kai ths xwras. Oi kanones poy kaqe fora diepoyn thn ejelijh aytwn twn diagwnistikwn diadikasiwn, throyntai aparegklita. Efoson den exoyme ikanopoihtikh antapokrish apo endiaferomenoys, stoys oroys kai tis proypoqeseis poy tiqentai sto plaisio aytwn twn diadikasiwn, tote logiko einai mia tetoia diadikasia diarqrwtikhs allaghs na mhn proxwra kai na mhn oloklhrwnetai. Mporw na anaferw dekades epixeirhsewn poy to kaqestws toys allaje katw apo toys kalyteroys oroys, tis kalyteres proypoqeseis. H syzhthsh poy synthreitai apo thn pleyra ths Neas Dhmokratias, na dhmioyrgeitai, dhladh, ena noshro klima sth dhmosia zwh ths xwras, den mporei na apotelesei anasxetiko paragonta. Asfalws ayto mporei, metajy twn allwn, na epidiwkei h Nea Dhmokratia. To symferon, omws, ths xwras einai ayto poy epiballei, efoson me apolyth diafaneia exei oristei to plaisio, aytes oi diadikasies na ejelixqoyn kai na oloklhrwqoyn. Otan ayto den diasfalizetai, h kybernhsh den einai diateqeimenh na ekxwrhsei thn perioysia toy ellhnikoy laoy, kata tropo tetoio, o opoios den einai symfwnos me ta symferonta ths xwras kai toy koinwnikoy synoloy.

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REPPAS: Prepei na sas pw oti gia to qema ayto ekane sxetikh dhlwsh o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas. Pragmati, briskomaste sto teleytaio stadio twn syzhthsewn kai diapragmateysewn, prokeimenoy na symfwnhqei se oles tis leptomereies ths h sxetikh symbash, h opoia en synexeia qa apostalei sth Boylh, prokeimenoy na egkriqei apo to ellhniko Koinoboylio. H Ellada, sto plaisio aytwn twn syzhthsewn, epidiwkei kai fainetai oti epitygxanei na entaxqei se ayto to megalo konsortsioym poy qa paragei maxhtika aeroskafh tetarths genias, mazi me alles megales xwres. Einai mia epityxia, h opoia qa bohqhsei kai thn polemikh biomhxania ths xwras mas, peran toy oti enisxyei shmantika thn apotreptikh ikanothta twn Enoplwn Dynamewn mas.

MPOYRDARAS: Me aformh th shmerinh hmera kai ta osa exoyn ginei kata kairoys, poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs oson afora to panepisthmiako asylo, an qa epitrapei h eisodos astynomikwn dynamewn mesa se panepisthmiakoys xwroys poy exoyn ginei kapoia ektropa; Kai mia paremferhs erwthsh: Den qewrei h kybernhsh oti o asfyktikos kloios gyrw apo ta panepisthmia apo astynomikes dynameis oysiastika apotelei katapathsh toy panepisthmiakoy asyloy;

REPPAS: Qa moy epitrecete na pw oti o sebasmos olwn mas sto panepisthmiako asylo, sto eidiko kaqestws poy diepei toys akadhmaikoys xwroys, prepei na apodeiknyetai sthn prajh. O sebasmos aytos ofeiletai apo oloys, eite einai aploi polites, eite einai entagmenoi se mia dhmosia yphresia, opws einai oi astynomikoi. H paroysia twn astynomikwn dynamewn aposkopei sth diasfalish twn orwn ths dhmosias tajhs kai asfaleias, sto plaisio aytwn twn ekdhlwsewn. Oi astynomikes dynameis den exoyn kamia epafh me toys xwroys poy anhkoyn se ena tetoio eidiko kaqestws, opoy isxyei to panepisthmiako asylo. To panepisthmiako asylo den parabiazetai, den eiserxontai stoys xwroys twn panepisthmiwn astynomikes dynameis. Ayto einai dedomeno. Apo thn allh, omws, qa prepei ola ta agaqa na ta zygizoyme. To agaqo ths omalhs ejelijhs twn shmerinwn ekdhlwsewn prepei kai ayto na diafylaxqei. Sthn kateyqynsh ayth symballoyn kai oi astynomikes dynameis.

KOYRTAKHS: Shmera o Prwqypoyrgos kateqese stefani sto Nekrotafeio toy Zwgrafoy. Poios o logos poy apagoreyqhke h eisodos stoys dhmosiografoys kai ta thleoptika synergeia;

REPPAS: Eipa xqes oti h kybernhsh kai idiaiterws o Prwqypoyrgos ekdhlwnei me oysiastiko tropo th deoysa timh stoys agwnistes toy Polytexneioy, ayth thn idiaiterh hmera. O Prwqypoyrgos epeleje ayton ton oysiastiko kai semno tropo, gia na ekfrasei thn timh toy pros th mnhmh twn agwnistwn toy Polytexneioy, kataqetontas stefani stoys tafoys newn anqrwpwn poy exasan tote th zwh toys. Pisteyw oti ayto katajiwnei apolyta thn hmera kai to nohma poy exei. Kai en pash periptwsei, den einai aparaithto kaqe drasthriothta enos politikoy paragonta na synodeyetai apo synergeia MME. Giati h epikoinwniakh anadeijh mias prajhs, einai men mia shmantikh parametros, alla den einai ayth poy qa kaqorisei thn ajia, thn oysia kai to periexomeno ayths ths idias ths prajhs. Ayto einai poy epeleje na kanei o Prwqypoyrgos kai nomizw oti qa prepei na to sebastoyme.

GIANNISHS: Ayto, omws, einai kata kapoio tropo anisobares ws pros ta hlektronika Mesa. Dhladh, ayrio oi efhmerides qa exoyn th dynatothta na dhmosieysoyn ena poly megalo reportaz gia thn kinhsh ayth toy Prwqypoyrgoy, antiqeta ta hlektronika Mesa qa prepei na perioristoyn sth fwtografia toy sygkekrimenoy fwtografoy ston opoio epetraph h eisodos. Qa mporoyse na eixe paei, estw h ERT, gia na exoyme kai thn eikona.

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, den qa prepei kaqe kinhsh poy kanei enas politikos paragontas na th qetoyme ypo to mikroskopio, ypo ton elegxo twn anagkwn leitoyrgias twn MME. Qa moy epitrecete na pw oti ayto einai mia antistrofh twn pragmatwn, ayto einai aparadekto, an qelete. Kai den einai kai dhmokratiko. Eseis exete th dynatothta, me ta mesa poy diaqetete, na anadeijete to qema kata th dikh sas apoch, me to diko sas tropo. Epanalambanw oti to kaqestws poy diepei th leitoyrgia twn hlektronikwn MME -ayto einai mia genikh qesh poy isxyei se oles tis xwres kai sth dikh mas- einai diaforetiko apo to kaqestws poy diepei th leitoyrgia twn entypwn Meswn. Ta hlektronika MME askoyn mia kata paraxwrhsh dhmosia yphresia, dioti ta programmata toys ekpempontai mesw syxnothtwn poy apoteloyn eqnikh kai koinwnikh perioysia, syxnothtes gia tis opoies yfistatai texnikos periorismos. Den einai aperioristes oi syxnothtes. Kati, poy den symbainei me ta entypa Mesa. Gi` ayto, akribws, o elegxos gia ta legomena "qerma MME", poy einai ta hlektronika MME, apo thn pleyra ths Politeias einai entonoteros. Den prepei, loipon, na ginetai ayth h sygxysh, giati odhgoymaste se lanqasmena symperasmata.

KALARITHS: Exoyme kapoia ejelijh apo to Symboylio twn Monimwn Ekproswpwn se sxesh me to keimeno ths Etairikhs Sxeshs;

REPPAS: Den exoyme kapoia allh ejelijh. Gnwrizete oti to qema ayto qa syzhthqei kai sto plaisio toy Symboylioy Genikwn Ypoqesewn, poy synerxetai th Deytera. Emeis exoyme diatypwsei tis qeseis mas. Exoyme pei pws mexri twra einai qetikh h stash me thn opoia h E.E. antimetwpizei to qema. Bebaiws, epi twn syzhthsewn poy qa ginoyn, qa diatypwsoyme tis dikes mas qeseis me tropo peistiko, wste oi opoies beltiwseis einai dynato na epiteyxqoyn sto keimeno ayto, na epiteyxqoyn. Giati pisteyoyme oti sto keimeno ayto, to opoio qa einai o akrogwniaios liqos gia tis sxeseis E.E.-Toyrkias, prepei na symperilambanontai me safh tropo ola ekeina ta stoixeia ta opoia qa bohqhsoyn na oikodomhqoyn aytes oi sxeseis me tropo tetoio, wste na mhn yparxoyn paranohseis kai problhmata sto mellon.

ANTYPAS: Epistrefontas sto qema toy Prwqypoyrgoy, qa hqela na rwthsw, poia skopimothta ejyphretoyse tote to deltio Typoy poy estalh sta MME, apo th stigmh poy, opws eipate eseis edw ws epishmansh, den einai aparaithto kaqe energeia na synodeyetai apo synergeia kai dhmosiografoys;

REPPAS: Den ypoxrewnetai kaneis, ena deltio Typoy poy ekdoqhke kai eprepe na ekdoqei, na to labei ypoch. Mporeite kallista na to petajete sto kalaqi twn axrhstwn, an den sas bohqa sto ergo sas. An kapoios qewrei oti ton bohqa sto ergo toy, mporei na to labei ypoch toy. Giati, an den ekdidotan deltio Typoy qa legate giati den ekdoqhke deltio Typoy gia na bohqhqoyme sto ergo mas, na enhmerwsoyme thn koinh gnwmh.

ANTYPAS: Sygxwreste me k. Ypoyrge, qa protimoysa na apanthsete sthn erwthsh. Efoson eipate oti den einai aparaithto, kaqe energeia politikoy proswpoy na synodeyetai apo synergeia kai eipate prohgoymenws kai poly swsta oti o Prwqypoyrgos epeleje ayto to semno kai oysiastiko tropo, poios o logos tote na steilete deltio Typoy;

REPPAS: O logos einai aytos kai mono aytos: Na ypobohqhqoyn oi synadelfoi sas sto ergo toys, eite ergazontai se entypa, eite se hlektronika MME.

ANTYPAS: Qa mporoysame na eixame enhmerwqei, toylaxiston, edw sthn politikh enhmerwsh.

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos epeleje me ayton to semno tropo na apotisei foro timhs xwris thn paroysia MME kai xwris th symmetoxh allwn paragontwn. Ayton ton tropo, me ton opoio o idios ejefrase th dikh toy timh sth mnhmh twn agwnistwn toy Polytexneioy, prepei na ton sebastoyme. O Prwqypoyrgos, gnwrizete, htan monos toy. Epeleje ayton ton tropo, prepei na to sebastoyme.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati den phge sto Polytexneio;

REPPAS: Apanthsa gi ayto, proxqes. Kaqenas epilegei ton tropo me ton opoio krinei oti ekfrazei ayto poy niwqei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eixe astynomia sto Polytexneio, opoy mporoyse na ton prostatecei.

REPPAS: Ayth einai h dikh sas apoch. O Prwqypoyrgos, omws, ekrine oti ekfrazei ta aisqhmata toy me tropo poly pio semno, oysiastiko, periektiko, otan kanei ayto poy ekane kai otan den symmetexei se mia panhgyrikoy xarakthra teleth, proserxomenos sto Polytexneio. Gnwrizete poly kala ton tropo me ton opoio antilambanetai ta pragmata o Prwqypoyrgos, o opoios ekeinh thn periodo eixe symmetoxh sta drwmena.

SKOYRHS: H energeia ayth toy Prwqypoyrgoy shmainei mia apostash apo thn poreia poy ginetai kaqe xrono;

REPPAS: H energeia toy Prwqypoyrgoy anadeiknyei ayto poy niwqei oti eprepe na kanei shmera. Tipota allo, kamia allh apostash apo tis ekdhlwseis, stis opoies elpizoyme -opws kaqe xrono kai fetos akomh perissotero- na symmetasxoyn xiliades politwn.

SKOYRHS: Yparxei mia synenteyjh toy Proedroy ths Serbias k. Miloytinobits, poy afhnei aixmes gia Ellhnes paragontes. Gia thn episkech toy k. Papantwnioy sta Balkania, leei oti htan mia toyrne. Akomh leei oti egine elegxos sta oikonomika toy apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh. Anoijate toys logariasmoys toy Proedroy ths Serbias; Gnwrizete kati tetoio;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti sto plaisio ths E.E. exoyn lhfqei sygkekrimenes apofaseis gia ta perioysiaka stoixeia paragontwn, poy anaferontai se mia sygkekrimenh lista. H Trapeza ths Elladas exei synergasia me trapezika idrymata kai twn allwn xwrwn ths E.E. gia to xeirismo aytwn twn qematwn. Den yparxei otidhpote allo, den yparxei opoiodhpote allo stoixeio poy na odhgei sto symperasma oti o sygkekrimenos h opoios allos paragontas exei sthn Ellada kataqeseis h perioysiaka stoixeia tetoia, ta opoia briskontai ypo elegxo. Den exw kati pros anakoinwsh, giati den exei prokycei kati, toylaxiston mexri twra.

SKOYRHS: Oson afora thn kritikh se ypoyrgoys;

REPPAS: H paroysia ths Elladas sta Balkania kai h anagnwrish aytoy toy shmantikoy roloy ths sth Notioanatolikh Eyrwph apo to dieqnh paragonta, thn E.E., tis HPA, alla kai alloys, ofeiletai se megalo baqmo ston tropo me ton opoio oi Ellhnes ypoyrgoi symmeteixan stis kata kairoys ejelijeis stis balkanikes xwres, episkeptomenoi tis balkanikes xwres, syzhtwntas me tis hgesies toys kai alloys koinwnikoys kai oikonomikoys paragontes stis xwres aytes. Xwris ayth thn entonh paroysia den qa htan dynato h Ellada na anaptyjei prwtoboylies, oi opoies odhghsan se dikaiwsh ths politikhs mas. Ayto to anagnwrisan oloi, to gnwrizete ki eseis.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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