Greek Government Press Briefing, 00-10-18

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 18 Oktwbrioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

O Prwqypoyrgos episkefqhke ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias, ton opoio enhmerwse gia qemata eswterikhs kai dieqnoys epikairothtas. Exei kanei sxetikh dhlwsh o Prwqypoyrgos. Menw sth qesh poy diatypwse oti h kybernhsh, opws mexri twra, etsi kai sto mellon qa labei ta aparaithta metra gia na antimetwpisei problhmata, opws ayta poy prokyptoyn logw ths ayjhshs ths timhs toy petrelaioy, gia na anakoyfistoyn oi asqenesteres koinwnikes omades. Allwste -to eipa kai xqes- poly syntoma h eisodhmatikh, forologikh, oikonomikh politikh gia to epomeno etos, me aformh thn katartish toy Proypologismoy, qa syzhthqei me perissoteres leptomereies.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati den apoxwrhsame apo thn askhsh toy NATO;

REPPAS: Dioti eixame mia qetikh ejelijh, h opoia antapokrinetai sthn apaithsh ths ellhnikhs pleyras na doqei h dynatothta sta ellhnika aeroskafh poy symmetexoyn se mia NATOikh askhsh na xrhsimopoihsoyn aerodiadromoys poy eixan apokleistei. Epeidh akribws epanhlqame ston arxiko sxediasmo, ta ellhnika maxhtika aeroskafh exoyn th dynatothta na xrhsimopoioyn aytoys toys aerodiadromoys. Sas enhmerwnw oti shmera egine pthsh ellhnikwn aeroskafwn poy bebaiws exoyn thn idiothta NATOikoy aeroskafoys, afoy symmetexoyn se NATOikh askhsh, panw apo th Lhmno. Xrhsimopoihqhkan, dhladh, aytoi oi aerodiadromoi poy gia mia periodo eixan apokleistei, me prwtoboylies diaforwn paragontwn. Ara, loipon, eixame logoys na parameinoyme kai na symmetexoyme se ayth thn askhsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti epanhlqame ston arxiko sxediasmo. Den htan aytos o arxikos sxediasmos. Afoy kai o ypoyrgos Amynas eipe ``oxi''. Pws epanhlqame ston arxiko sxediasmo;

REPPAS: Prepei na sas pw oti ginetai kati antistoixo me ayto poy egine sthn askhsh poy diejhxqh pro mhnwn sthn Ellada. H xrhsh aerodiadromwn poy kata th gnwmh mas prepei na xrhsimopoihqoyn sto plaisio ayths ths askhshs egine efikth, meta apo tis diaboyleyseis. Ayth h ejelijh einai qetikh, gi ayto paramenoyme se ayth thn askhsh. Gia th xrhsh aytwn twn aerodiadromwn, kapoioi jenoi ajiwmatoyxoi eixan diatypwsei tis antirrhseis toys, gi ayto den symmeteixan ta ellhnika maxhtika aeroskafh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw allo sas rwtaw. Gia ton arxiko sxediasmo poy lete, epanhlqame ston arxiko sxediasmo;

REPPAS: Epanhlqame ston arxiko sxediasmo, xrhsimopoiwntas aerodiadromoys opws arxika problepotan na ginei.

MIXAHL: Exete na kanete kapoio sxolio gia tis ejelijeis sth Nea Dhmokratia;

REPPAS: Oi ejelijeis sth Nea Dhmokratia apoteloyn eswteriko zhthma toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs.

ANTYPAS: An mporeite na ginete ligo pio analytikos otan lete gia ``asqenesteres koinwnikes omades''. Grafontai plhrofories oti yparxei mia dystokia, oti to kostos einai yperboliko, yperbainei ta 100 disekatommyria draxmes.

REPPAS: Gia poio pragma; Se ti anafereste;

ANTYPAS: Gia ta metra poy qa parete gia to petrelaio@

REPPAS: Eipame gi ayta ta qemata oti h politikh poy qa akoloyqhsoyme thn epomenh periodo qa exei kyriws ayth thn aixmh, ayto to stoxo: na bohqhsoyme toys asqenesteroys. Apla, xreiazetai mia ejeidikeysh, pragma to opoio apasxolei ayth thn wra to oikonomiko epiteleio ths kybernhshs.

ANTYPAS: Den eiste etoimoi twra@;

REPPAS: Den einai akomh h wra na kanoyme anakoinwsh, me perissoteres leptomereies. Sas eipa oti tis epomenes hmeres ayto qa apotelesei antikeimeno syzhthshs.

GARGALAKOS: Xqes, o Prwqypoyrgos zhthse sympnoia apo oloys toys emplekomenoys paragontes sthn ypoqesh toy 2004. Shmera, omws, yphrje kapoia antilogia anamesa ston ypoyrgo k. Laliwth kai sto melos ths Epitrophs toy 2004 k. Liaska. Exete kapoio sxolio ep aytoy;

REPPAS: Yparxei ena diadikastiko qema poy qa antimetwpistei. Einai qema poly ligwn hmerwn. Qa antimetwpistei sthn kateyqynsh poy exei apofasisei kai h diypoyrgikh epitroph kai h kybernhsh kai o ``2004'' gia mia kathgoria ergwn poy qa parakoloyqei kai qa ektelei to Dhmosio, eite einai to YPEXWDE, eite einai to ypoyrgeio Metaforwn, eite einai h G.G. Aqlhtismoy, eite einai o OEK. Oi texnikoi symboyloi, etsi onomazontai symfwna me thn prokhryjh poy exei ekdoqei apo to ``2004'', poy qa proslhfqoyn, den qa askoyn dioikhsh sta erga ayta, alla aplws qa parakoloyqoyn to xronodiagramma ths proodoy twn ergwn kai tis prodiagrafes twn ergwn, an dhladh einai symfwnes me ta olympiaka protypa. Ara, loipon, h amoibh se ayth thn periptwsh twn episthmonwn qa prepei na ginetai analogws twn wrwn poy diaqetoyn gi ayth thn apasxolhsh, symfwna dhladh me tis ergatowres poy katanalwnontai, prokeimenoy na ginei ayth h parakoloyqhsh twn ergwn.

An qelete perissoteres leptomereies mporw na sas pw, alla einai ena eidiko qema kai mporei na sas koyrasw.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Na sas akoysoyme.

REPPAS: Yparxei anagkh proslhchs texnikwn symboylwn. Se ayto symfwnoyme oloi, sto plaisio ths proetoimasias ths xwras mas kai ths kataskeyhs diaforwn ergwn kai ths aparaithths ypodomhs gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes toy 2004. To qema poy prepei amesws na antimetwpisoyme einai poia einai h armodiothta, poio einai to antikeimeno poy qa exoyn aytoi oi episthmones. Yparxoyn, loipon erga ta opoia qa prepei na katatajoyme se treis kathgories.

H mia kathgoria einai ayth poy afora ta erga poy kataskeyazontai, alla monon oson afora thn ptyxh ekeinh poy sxetizetai me thn prosarmogh twn ergwn gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes. Dhladh, p.x. qa kataskeyastei to Olympiako Xwrio. Sto Olympiako Xwrio prepei na ginoyn orismenes prosarmoges, wste kata th diarkeia ths Olympiadas na xrhsimopoihqei gia sygkekrimeno skopo, enw sth metaolympiakh @as to pw etsi- periodo, to xwrio ayto qa apodoqei isws gia allh xrhsh apo to forea poy to kataskeyase. Ara, loipon, ena antikeimeno, mia armodiothta poy qa exoyn oi episthmones aytoi qa einai na parakoloyqhsoyn thn ejelijh ths olympiakhs prosarmoghs aytwn twn ergwn. Qa askoyn, dhladh, dioikhsh, oson afora ayton ton tomea. Edw qa doqoyn amoibes logw akribws ths apasxolhshs poy qa exoyn oi episthmones ws symboyloi dioikhshs ergoy.

Mia allh kathgoria einai ayth poy anaferetai sthn apasxolhsh twn episthmonwn gia logariasmo toy ``Aqhna 2004'', oi opoioi meta thn oloklhrwsh kapoioy ergoy qa to paralaboyn, kanontas toys aparaithtoys elegxoys, qa to diaxeiristoyn gia ligoys mhnes prin apo thn Olympiada kai qa to paradwsoyn meta thn Olympiada gia th metepeita xrhsh toy. Ki edw, sthn periptwsh ayth, qa askoyn dioikhsh ergoy.

Yparxei mia trith kathgoria poy einai ta dhmosia erga gia ta opoia milhsa prin. Ta dhmosia erga, ta opoia bebaiws exoyn mia xrhsimothta kai gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes toy 2004, alla den aforoyn mono toys Olympiakoys Agwnes. Apoteloyn pia pagia stoixeia ths ypodomhs ths xwras mas. Foreas ylopoihshs twn ergwn aytwn einai to Dhmosio. Epanalambanw oti einai to YPEXWDE, to ypoyrgeio Metaforwn, h G.G. Aqlhtismoy gia ta aqlhtika erga kai o OEK gia to Olympiako Xwrio. To ``2004'', sthn periptwsh ayth, qa exei me toys episthmones poy qelei na proslabei, armodiothta na parakoloyqhsei @den askei dioikhsh ergoy- to xronodiagramma ejelijhs twn ergwn kai epishs na parakoloyqhsei an throyntai oi olympiakes prodiagrafes sta erga ayta. Den askei @epanalambanw- dioikhsh ergoy se ayth thn periptwsh. Ara, loipon, gi ayth thn kathgoria ergwn kai gi ayth thn kathgoria episthmonwn, h amoibh prepei na ginei me ergatowres, analoga me thn apasxolhsh toys. To qema poy proekyce @kai sas katatopizw, nomizw, me ayto poy lew- afora ayth thn kathgoria twn episthmonwn, epeidh sthn prokhryjh poy ekane o ``2004'' gia thn proslhch episthmonwn, den ginetai diakrish stis treis aytes kathgories ergwn, alla antistoixws den ginetai kai diakrish stis treis kathgories episthmonwn, oi opoioi stis dyo kathgories askoyn dioikhsh ergoy, enw sthn trith kathgoria einai parathrhtes: Oson afora afenos to xronodiagramma ejelijhs toy ergoy kai afeteroy oson afora thn thrhsh twn olympiakwn prodiagrafwn poy prepei na exoyn ayta ta erga. Exei prokycei, loipon, ayto to zhthma, to nomiko, an qelete, to diadikastiko, pws qa ginei h proslhch twn symboylwn kai pws qa ameifqoyn oi symboyloi se ayth thn trith kathgoria, afoy den qa askoyn dioikhsh ergoy. Einai qema, to opoio @epanalambanw- qa antimetwpistei sto plaisio syskechs poy exei programmatistei metajy twn armodiwn. Me ayta poy sas eipa pisteyw oti dielysa kapoia skia poy yphrxe gia ena diadikastiko qema to opoio antimetwpizetai. Aplws, h prokhryjh den periexei ayth th diakrish, gi ayto dhmioyrghqhkan, isws, kapoia problhmata. Etsi exei to qema.

ARGYROS: Synepws, o diagwnismos gia toys texnikoys symboyloys isxyei h parapempetai stis kalendes;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti einai ena qema, poy qa prepei na apotelesei antikeimeno syzhthshs se mia syskech, epeidh sto diagwnismo den ginetai ayth h diakrish, gia thn opoia analytika milhsa, oson afora erga kai episthmones. Qa antimetwpistei, loipon, to erwthma ean prepei na proxwrhsei h prokhryjh ayth akribws ws exei, an prepei na yparjei kapoia symplhrwsh h kapoia nea prokhryjh. Einai safh ayta poy eipa. Epeidh h prokhryjh den kanei diakrish, parolo oti kai ta erga diakrinontai kai to ergo toy episthmona se kaqe ena apo ayta ta erga, einai diaforetiko. Ara, prepei na einai diaforetikos kai o tropos amoibhs. Ayto einai to qema poy prepei na antimetwpisoyme.

FILHS: To qema to opoio qijate, qetei ena genikotero qema synergasias kai epopteias ths etaireias ``AQHNA 2004''. To ellhniko Dhmosio einai o basikos metoxos ayths ths anwnymhs etaireias. Mesa apo poio mhxanismo askeitai h epopteia kai o elegxos stis apofaseis poy lambanei ayth h etaireia, apofaseis poy qa exoyn kai oikonomiko antiktypo ston proypologismo toy ellhnikoy dhmosioy;

REPPAS: Oson afora ta dhmosia erga, gnwrizete oti oi idioi oi foreis toy Dhmosioy exoyn toys dikoys toys episthmones, oi opoioi askoyn dioikhsh se kaqe ergo. Ara, loipon, gia ayta ta erga yparxei apeyqeias parakoloyqhsh apo to Dhmosio. H Organwtikh Epitroph toy ``AQHNA 2004'' exei thn aytonomia ths, pairnei tis apofaseis ths, sto plaisio to opoio exei apofasistei apo thn kybernhsh. Den yparxei kanena problhma synergasias. Texnika, organwtika h diadikastika zhthmata ta opoia prokyptoyn -kai ena metajy twn allwn einai kai ayto- antimetwpizontai mesa se ena pneyma kalopistias kai synennohshs. Ara, loipon, den yparxei logos me aformh ayto to problhma na qewroyme -megalopoiwntas to- oti yparxei diastash h den yparxei elegxos. Oloi oi foreis kinoyntai mesa se ena plaisio poy exei apofasistei apo koinoy.

FILHS: Egw den megalopoiw kanena problhma. Akoysa ton k. Laliwth kai ton k. Liaska to prwi sto FLASH peripoy na diaplhktizontai gyrw apo ayto to qema h toylaxiston na qetoyn orismenes ptyxes poy exoyn kai oikonomiko antiktypo. Kai hqela na rwthsw: Me bash thn isxyoysa pragmatikothta, h etaireia ``AQHNA 2004'', ypokeitai stis apofaseis ths Diypoyrgikhs h qa labei apofaseis ektos toy plaisioy ths Diypoyrgikhs;

REPPAS: Ypokeitai stis apofaseis ths Diypoyrgikhs. Gnwrizete oti h Organwtikh Epitroph toy ``AQHNA 2004'' exei ypogracei seira mnhmoniwn me ta kata periptwsh armodia ypoyrgeia, sta opoia mnhmonia orizetai to plaisio ths synergasias. Epanerxomai, loipon kai tonizw oti exei apofasistei ena plaisio, to opoio oloi throyn.

FILHS: Dhladh, sygnwmh k Ypoyrge@ Epeidh, exei ena dhmosio dialogo o k. Laliwths me ton ``AQHNA 2004'', gi ayto rwtw.

REPPAS: Yparxei mia proseggish poy kanei o kaqenas apo th dikh toy pleyra me afethria sygkekrimena stoixeia. O k. Laliwths leei oti sta erga ayta den askei dioikhsh ergoy o episthmonas poy qa proslhfqei, ara, prepei na ameibetai me ergatowres. O k. Liaskas leei oti exei ginei prokhryjh, h opoia qa prepei na tyxei analoghs efarmoghs. Gnwrizete oti den exoyn ginei proslhceis, symfwna me ta osa problepei ayth h prokhryjh. Eimaste sto shmeio poy qa prepei na antimetwpisoyme ayto to nomiko zhthma. Kai ayto qa ginei se pneyma synennohshs kai synergasias, me kalh diaqesh.

KARGOYDH: To germaniko ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn se anakoinwsh toy, metajy twn xwrwn stis opoies o k. Milosebits exei fygadeysei megala xrhmatika posa, symperilambanei kai thn Ellada. Qa hqela na rwthsw ean sas exoyn doqei epishmws ayta ta stoixeia apo tis germanikes yphresies h an eseis exete analoga stoixeia;

REPPAS: Prwton, den exei perielqei se gnwsh ths kybernhshs opoiadhpote tetoia qesh apo allh kybernhsh. Oyte apo th germanikh. Deyteron, prepei na sas pw oti, epeidh to qema ayto syzhteitai kata kairoys, ta stoixeia poy mporei na exei kapoios -h Germania gia paradeigma-kalo einai na ta dwsei sth dhmosiothta, prokeimenoy na ginei pio safhs. Alla, oson afora th xwra mas -giati kat epanalhch exei teqei to qema ayto- prepei na sas pw oti den exoyme stoixeia apo ta opoia na prokyptei otidhpote sxetiko. Oi armodies arxes sth xwra mas, oi Trapezes, prin apo enamisi xrono, eixan enhmerwqei oti qa prepei na elegxqoyn logariasmoi politwn, atomwn poy perilambanontai se enan sygkekrimeno katalogo, poy eixe ekdwsei h E.E.

KWSTANTHS: Erwthqhkate xqes ean, san thn periptwsh ths SDOE sthn EPAE, qa xrhsimopoihqoyn antistoixa organa poy qa elegjoyn, poy phgan ta kefalaia poy antlhsan apo to Xrhmatisthrio kapoies epixeirhseis. Kai eipate oti to 75% twn porwn aytwn exoyn ajiopoihqei. Ontws, etsi einai symfwna me thn Ekqesh ths Epitrophs Kefalaiagoras. Yparxoyn, omws, etaireies sto Xrhmatisthrio, opws aytes toy k. Kokkalh, oi opoies exoyn dwsei ton antistoixo akribws ariqmo, dhladh ena megalo pososto, poy den exoyn ajiopoihqei. Ti qa ginei me aytes tis etaireies;

REPPAS: Yparxei armodia arxh poy prepei na kanei oloys toys aparaithtoys elegxoys. Ayth einai h ypoxrewsh ths kai nomizw oti to kanei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate prohgoymenws gi ayto to qema toy ``AQHNA 2004''. Dhladh, me ayta poy mas eipate shmera calidizontai oi armodiothtes toy ``AQHNA 2004'';

REPPAS: Kaqe allo. O ``AQHNA 2004'' einai o kyrios foreas poy exei analabei thn organwsh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn sth xwra mas se synergasia me th DOE. Gnwrizete oti toys Olympiakoys Agwnes, kaqe fora, toys organwnei enas foreas poy diaqetei mia analogh aytonomia. Oi kybernhseis, ta krath bohqoyn, dhmioyrgwntas thn analogh ypodomh, prosferontas kaqe eidoys dioikhtikh h oikonomikh bohqeia. Alliws, den einai dynath h organwsh Olympiakwn Agwnwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Meta apo ayto poy egine xqes sth Diypoyrgikh Epitroph kai poy synexizetai kai shmera metajy toy ypoyrgoy PEXWDE kai twn ekproswpwn toy ``AQHNA 2004'', mporei na synexistei h synergasia kai na perimenoyme na teleiwsoyn erga;

REPPAS: Synexizetai h synergasia. Ta erga qa oloklhrwqoyn sthn wra toys. Milhse -kai htan apokalyptikos- gia to qema ayto, o ypoyrgos PEXWDE. Qa organwsoyme mia aristh Olympiada. Gi ayto na eiste sigoyroi.

MPOTWNHS: Sth synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Oikoymeniko Patriarxh, thn epomenh ebdomada, exei klhqei kai o k. Xristodoylos;

REPPAS: Apanthsa, xqes. Paramenw se ayto poy eipa. Einai idiwtikh h episkech toy Oikoymenikoy Patriarxh sthn Ellada, opws gnwrizete. Pragmati qa synanthqei me ton Prwqypoyrgo sto Megaro Majimoy. Epeidh, diafora dhmosieymata anaferoyn oti o Patriarxhs exei titlo poy ton qetei sto idio epipedo me arxhgo kratoys kai ara o tropos me ton opoio ton antimetwpizei h kybernhsh den einai o armozwn, prepei na sas pw oti einai idiwtikh ayth h episkech. Exei symfwnhqei na synanthqoyn sto Megaro Majimoy kai na syzhthsoyn. O Prwqypoyrgos, sth synexeia, qa paraqesei ston Oikoymeniko Patriarxh geyma, opoy qa exoyn th dynatothta na synexisoyn tis syzhthseis toys gia diafora qemata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Apo pote egine ``ellhnofwnos plhqysmos'' h ellhnikh meionothta sth Xeimara;

REPPAS: Xairomai poly, poy qetete ayto to erwthma giati eida, kyriws, sth dikh sas efhmerida, dhmosieymata ta opoia parapoioyn osa syzhtoyme edw. Kai xairomai otan tis erwthseis poy diatypwnontai kai tis apanthseis poy dinw tis xrhsimopoieite sta keimena ta opoia grafete. Lypoymai, omws, otan blepw oti ayto den ginetai, para th syzhthsh poy kanoyme edw. Ara, den antilambanomai to logo gia ton opoio ginontai oi erwthseis. Lypoymai akomh perissotero otan ginetai xrhsh erwthsewn kai apanthsewn me tropo omws streblo, opws egine, en prokeimenw. Sas parapempw sthn apanthsh moy, xqes, sthn prwth selida, otan eipa oti `` ginetai anafora stis ekqeseis twn parathrhtwn toy OASE sthn ellhnofwnh meionothta poy zei sth Xeimara''. Kai prosqesa oti ayto einai shmantiko, doqentos oti den anagnwrizetai apo ton OASE h thn Albania h apo kapoio dieqnes keimeno, oti h Xeimara anhkei sth meionotikh zwnh. Ayto eipa. Kai milhsa idiaiterws gia thn ``eqnikh ellhnikh meionothta sthn Albania''. Kai seis, shmera, me paroysiazete sthn efhmerida sas ws omoio me@ to Xotza! Lete ``ti Reppas, ti Xotzas''! Qa mporoyse, an zoyse, na diamartyrhqei o Xotza! Gi ayto, prepei na eiste pio prosektikos!

Eyxaristw poly.

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