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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 28 Septembrioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YFYPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

THLEMAXO XYTHRH

Geia sas.

Synedriase, shmera, to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio to opoio asxolhqhke apokleistika me th naytikh tragwdia sto Aigaio. Sthn arxh ths synedriashs o Prwqypoyrgos eipe ta ejhs:

``Aytes tis wres penqoys kai odynhs -kai shmera olh h Ellada penqei, oloi oi Ellhnes penqoyn- h skech mas brisketai konta stoys synanqrwpoys mas poy xaqhkan toso adika sto Aigaio. Stoys synanqrwpoys mas poy xaqhkan kai stoys dikoys toys poy toys qrhnoyn. To diko mas xreos, desmeyshs mas ws kybernhshs, einai na xyqei apleto fws sta aitia ayths ths adianohths tragwdias. Amesa kai ypeyqyna, oso chla ki an briskontai oi eyqynes qa apodoqoyn. Kai qa apodoqoyn amesa. To ofeiloyme se aytoys poy efygan, to ofeiloyme se osoys afhsan pisw toys.

Kentriko qema mas einai panta h asfaleia sth xwra mas. Oxi mono sth naysiploia, alla se oloys toys tomeis ths zwhs mas. H eyqynh apenanti ston polith. H efarmogh twn kanonismwn. H ajiologhsh kai o synexhs elegxos. Gnwrizw oti tis pikres toytes wres, mporei kaqe diabebaiwsh na moiazei me gramma keno, na hxei koyfia. Omws, den qa stamathsoyme stigmh sthn kybernhsh ayth, mexris otoy oi diadikasies kai oi praktikes asfaleias sth xwra mas na ginoyn antajies twn anqrwpwn ths, oso ki an xreiastei na anatrecoyme symperifores kai antilhceis, oses antidraseis ki an yparjoyn. Den einai nohto na xanontai etsi zwes to 2000. Pote pia tetoia tragwdia den prepei na symbei''.

Akoloyqws, o Prwqypoyrgos milhse gia thn allagh programmatos kai th mataiwsh drasthriothtwn toso se kommatiko, oso kai se kybernhtiko epipedo. Epishs, opws isws qa gnwrizete, allazei kai h teleth ypodoxhs twn Olympionikwn mas sthn Aystralia. Qa ginei mia semnh teleth sto aerodromio, thn Trith, hmera ths epistrofhs toys, kai o Prwqypoyrgos qa dexqei toys Olympionikes kai thn Ellhnikh Antiproswpeia, sto Megaro Majimoy, th Deytera 9 Oktwbrioy.

Qelw na ypenqymisw oti me entolh kai toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai toy armodioy ypoyrgoy Dikaiosynhs askhqhke diwjh kata pantos ypeyqynoy. Opws gnwrizete, kratoyntai sthn Paro kai prokeitai na metaferqoyn sth Syro, meta apo energeia toy eisaggelea Syroy, pente ej ekeinwn poy eixan bardia th stigmh toy nayagioy. H diwjh ginetai kata pantos ypeyqynoy gia proklhsh nayagioy, gia anqrwpoktonia kata syrroh apo ameleia, me endexomeno dolo. Taytoxrona, se ena allo epipedo, h Eisaggelia Peiraia dienergei proanakrish kai kalese pros toyto na kataqesoyn kai toys ploiokthtes.

O Prwqypoyrgos tonise oti qa parakoloyqhsei apo konta olh ayth th diadikasia, wste na ginei me grhgoroys ryqmoys.

Gia to tragiko ayto symban ejefrasan ta syllyphthria toys, apostellontas thlegrafhmata, polloi jenoi hgetes, kaqws kai o Panagiotatos Patriarxhs k. Barqolomaios. O Prwqypoyrgos ths Gallias k. Zospen epikoinwnhse kai thlefwnika me ton k. Shmith gia na toy ekfrasei ta syllyphthria ths kybernhshs toy. Thlegrafhmata, metajy allwn, exoyn aposteilei o Proedros Klhridhs, oi prwqypoyrgoi ths Boylgarias, ths Toyrkias, toy Loyjemboyrgoy, o Proedros ths DOE Antwnios Samarank kai polloi alloi hgetes, giati katafqanoyn synexws thlegrafhmata.

Qa hqela na sas pw, opws qa noiwsate ki eseis kai enoiwsa ki egw kai oloi oi Ellhnes, exoyme ayth th xarmolyph me th megalh epityxia toy aqlhth mas shmera, pro oligoy. Bghke prwtos stoys Olympiakoys Agwnes kai katekthse to xryso metallio sta 200 metra. Stekomai sth dhlwsh toy xrysoy Olympionikh mas Kwsta Kenterh, o opoios amesws meta th megalh epityxia toy dhlwse oti isws ayth h nikh toy na apalynei ton pono twn sympolitwn mas sthn Ellada. Ton eyxaristoyme gia th nikh toy. Ton sygxairoyme. Eimaste perhfanoi gi` ayton.

Meta ton Prwqypoyrgo, sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, milhse diejodika o ypoyrgos Emporikhs Naytilias Xr. Papoytshs, o opoios anefere, lepto pros lepto, ta gegonota etsi opws diadramatisthkan apo thn prwth stigmh, ews kai shmera. O k. Papoytshs prokeitai, se ligh wra, na dwsei synenteyjh Typoy. Epomenws, qa apanthsei ws armodios ypoyrgos se kaqe erwthma -kai ta erwthmata einai para polla- poy qa qesoyn oi synadelfoi sas.

Prin dexqw tis erwthseis sas qa hqela na sas pw oti, ektos apo ton k. Papoytsh, milhsan sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio dieykrinistika kai oi ypoyrgoi poy elaban meros, to brady ekeino, me opoiondhpote tropo, sthn olh epixeirhsh. Epi topoy, ektos apo ton ypoyrgo Emporikhs Naytilias poy phge jhmerwmata xqes sthn Paro, breqhkan epishs o ypoyrgos Aigaioy N. Shfoynakhs o opoios synodeyse kai sthn Aqhna tis soroys twn qymatwn, h ypoyrgos Anaplhrwths Ejwterikwn El. Papazwh, kaqws kai armodioi yphresiakoi paragontes toy Limenikoy Swmatos k.t.l. Egine o,ti htan anqrwpinws dynato na ginei ston tomea ths diaswshs. Gnwrizete oti se periptwseis tragwdias, fainetai to megaleio ths anqrwpinhs symparastashs, opws epishs polles fores fainetai kai to antiqeto, h mizeria ths fyghs kapoiwn. Ayta symbainoyn pantote.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos anaferqhke kaqoloy sthn kaqysterhsh poy yphrxe sthn kratikh mhxanh ws pros to qema ths argoporias kai genika sto qema ths diaswshs;

XYTHRHS: To ti eipe o Prwqypoyrgos sas to eipa akribws.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia thn kaqysterhsh milaw.

XYTHRHS: Den yphrje kaqysterhsh. Prepei na labete ypoch sas tis synqhkes toy kairoy. Epnean anemoi isxyos oktw mpofor thn wra poy egine to dystyxhma. Prepei na sas pw oti h kybernhsh htan paroysa kai yphrxe syntonismos toy kratikoy mhxanismoy olh th nyxta. Pisteyw oti h symbolh olwn htan tetoia poy apetrece apo to na exoyme poly perissotera qymata. Bebaiws, kai ena qyma na eixame, qa htan pali tragwdia. Se ayta ta dystyxhmata poy ginontai katw apo tetoies synqhkes o kaqenas kanei to kalytero.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxei megalh kaqysterhsh. Meta apo oktw wres kinhqhkan. Pote phgan oi ypoyrgoi; Edw ta elikoptera perimenan kai den shkwqhkan, para mono to prwi gia na pane ton ypoyrgo kai ton arxhgo toy Limenikoy. Pote phgan oi ypoloipoi; Yparxoyn tragikes kaqysterhseis kai shmera grafontai oles aytes oi kaqysterhseis. Ti apanta h kybernhsh se ola ayta;

XYTHRHS: O k. Papoytshs qa dwsei synenteyjh Typoy kai qa pei akribws ti egine apo thn prwth stigmh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw lew, h kybernhsh.

XYTHRHS: Kybernhsh einai kai o k. Papoytshs ston opoio exei anateqei apo ton Prwqypoyrgo na milhsei gia olh th diadromh, olh th diadikasia apo thn prwth stigmh, mexri twra. Kai ayto qa kanei o k. Papoytshs. Meta apo osa pei o armodios ypoyrgos, mporei na ginei opoiadhpote kritikh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos epishmane aytes tis kaqysterhseis, eipe kati tetoio;

XYTHRHS: O Prwqypoyrgos briskotan synexws se epafh, to brady ekeino, me ton ypoyrgo Emporikhs Naytilias kai me toys alloys ypoyrgoys, poy epishs eixan sxesh me to syntonismo kai tis prospaqeies diaswshs.

KARELIAS: Mias kai den mporeite na apanthsete gia to ti synebh h den synebh to brady ekeino, qelw na sas rwthsw to ejhs: Sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio anaptyxqhke kapoios problhmatismos gia to gegonos oti polla, an oxi ta perissotera ploia mas, einai megalhs hlikias; Egine kapoia protash ep` aytoy, na aposyrontai nwritera, meta apo kapoio xrono; Twra einai sta 35 xronia, to orio ayto na ginei sta 30, sta 25, sta 27; Tetoios problhmatismos yphrje sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio;

XYTHRHS: Egine mia epishmansh apo ton k. Papoytsh, thn opoia profanws qa epanalabei sth synenteyjh poy qa dwsei, sxetika me ayto to qema kai th sygxysh poy yparxei gyrw apo to qema ayto. H E.E. den exei orio hlikias sta ploia. Eimaste h monh xwra poy exoyme orio hlikias kai ayto exei ginei me kybernhtikh apofash. Einai ta 35 xronia. Polloi ploiokthtes qeloyn na mhn yparxei orio hlikias kai sthn Ellada, opws den yparxei sthn E.E. Ayto, gia thn apokatastash ths alhqeias kai gia na mhn yparxei sygxysh gyrw apo ayto to qema.

KARELIAS: Qema allaghs aytoy toy orioy, yparxei; Eteqh tetoio qema;

XYTHRHS: Lhsmonhsa na sas pw kai sas eyxaristw, giati moy to qymizete me thn erwthsh sas, oti sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio ths epomenhs ebdomadas prokeitai na ejetastoyn diejodika -giati ayto qa einai kai pali to apokleistiko qema ths synedriashs- ola ta qemata ths naytilias, ola ta qemata ths aktoploias kai ths emporikhs naytilias. Ola ayta ta qemata qa ejetastoyn me kaqe leptomereia kai qa lhfqoyn apofaseis. Epomenws, qa syzhthqei kai to qema sto opoio anafereste.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Meta thn enhmerwsh poy eixe to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio apo ton k. Papoytsh, ta melh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy efygan me thn ektimhsh oti to sygkekrimeno karabi htan ajioploo;

XYTHRHS: To sygkekrimeno karabi den sygkroysthke me th braxonhsida, epeidh den htan ajioploo.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Zhthse o k. Shmiths paraithseis h eqese se diaqesimothta oloys aytoys poy enexontai se ayto to egklhma;

XYTHRHS: Oxi.

BITSENTZOY: Eipate prohgoymenws oti qa mporoysame na exoyme qrhnhsei perissotera qymata an den htan etoimos o kratikos mhxanismos. Prwto erwthma einai to ejhs: Qa mporoysate na moy ejhghsete giati sthn koinh gnwmh empedwqhke h antilhch oti an den htan oi carades ths Paroy qa qrhnoysame poly perissotera qymata;

XYTHRHS: Me aformh thn erwthsh sas, moy dinete thn eykairia na sas pw oti oi carades ths Paroy kai ths Antiparoy prosetrejan apo thn prwth stigmh ston topo toy nayagioy kai prosferan oysiastika gia th diaswsh twn nayagwn. Phgan ekei dioti doqhke entolh apo ton Ypolimenarxh ths Paroy Dhmhtrh Malama, o opoios dystyxws mesa se ayth thn entash ths olhs diadikasias ypesth kardiako epeisodio kai peqane. H symbolh twn caradwn htan poly megalh kai gi` ayto h kybernhsh prokeitai na apofasisei na enisxysei toys carades aytoys poy prosetrejan, dioti ypesthsan polles zhmies ta caradika toys, poy einai ta ergaleia gia th doyleia toys, gia th zwh toys. Dhmosiws h kybernhsh eyxaristei oloys aytoys toys carades kai oxi mono aytoys. H kybernhsh eyxaristei kai toys polites ths Paroy kai ths Antiparoy, oi opoioi kai aytoi prosferqhkan kai bohqhsan, me kaqe tropo, toys nayagoys poy bghkan sthn akth. Eyxaristoyme kai toys Bretanoys poy eplean konta sto nayagio kai molis elaban to shma prosetrejan kai symmeteixan, me elikoptera kai alla mesa, sth diaswsh twn nayagwn. Oi eyxaristies ths kybernhshs einai pros oles tis kateyqynseis, pros oloys aytoys poy se tetoies tragwdies apodeiknyoyn to megaleio ths anqrwpinhs allhleggyhs kai prosforas, enw dystyxws, opws sas eipa, parathroyntai kai antiqeta fainomena.

BITSENTZOY: Giati o Prwqypoyrgos, alla kai o ypoyrgos Emporikhs Naytilias, xarakthrizoyn adianohto to sygkekrimeno dystyxhma, otan gnwrizoyn oti xronia twra kykloforoyn sapiokaraba me pampalaia swstika mesa. Otan yparxoyn diefqarmenes -opws kataggelletai kai to jerei o Peiraias- elegktikes arxes, poy ekdidoyn pistopoihtika, otan koinotikes odhgies menoyn anefarmostes -opws ayth peri swstikwn metrwn poy elhje ton Ioylio 2000- kai otan yparxei anyparjia nayagoswstikwn meswn se Limenarxeia, opws ayto ths Paroy. Giati lete adianohto ena tetoio dystyxhma; Htan safws anamenomeno.

XYTHRHS: Giati to dystyxhma, etsi poy egine, htan adianohto. Oson afora ta alla poy lete h tis kritikes poy kanete, einai kritikes se mia deyterh fash. Eiste eleyqerh asfalws na kanete kritikh. Yparxei mia prwth fash, poy ena ploio peftei epanw se braxonhsida poy ferei faro kai einai oratos apo 7 milia. Ayto einai to symban. H kritikh poy kanete einai se deyterh fash. Einai synepakoloyqo, einai meta to symban. To adianohto, opws antilambaneste, einai to dystyxhma. As doyme ti qa pei kai h anakrish.

PAPPA: H shmerinh kybernhsh, kyberna sxedon 20 xronia. Einai gnwsto oti h Ellada einai naytikh xwra me dekades nhsia. Den synista politikh eyqynh to oti den yparxoyn swstika elikoptera pantos kairoy, ta opoia na einai se etoimothta ana pasa stigmh;

XYTHRHS: H shmerinh kybernhsh epediwje -mias kai anafereste sthn kybernhsh- na promhqeytei elikoptera, ta opoia qa xrhsimopoioyntai gia tetoies periptwseis. Ayta ta elikoptera einai ta SUPER PUMA, ta opoia apofasise na parei h Ellada kai ta phre, afoy sas ypenqymisw oti egine sxetikh epitroph, prokeimenoy na apofasisei gi ayto. Sthn Epitroph ayth symmeteixan h kybernhsh kai ta kommata. Ta kommata htan antiqeta sthn agora twn sygkekrimenwn tessarwn elikopterwn, ta opoia exoyn Galloys ekpaideytes. Apaiteitai mia ekpaideysh twn ellhnikwn plhrwmatwn, prokeimenoy na einai se qesh na epitelesoyn to ergo toys. Ayth h ekpaideysh einai sthn teleytaia fash ths. Gi` ayto, ta sygkekrimena elikoptera, mexri stigmhs, xrhsimopoioyntai mono ws metaforika mesa kai oxi ws elikoptera diaswshs, opws einai.

PAPPA: O tropos poy moirasthkan oi adeies skopimothtas kai poy dhmioyrghsan apolyto monopwlio, den synista politikh eyqynh;

XYTHRHS: Einai mia erwthsh, thn opoia qa apeyqynoyn, fantazomai, oi synadelfoi sas ston k. Papoytsh, giati einai ejeidikeymenh kai afora stis armodiothtes toy ypoyrgeioy Emporikhs Naytilias.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Trianta kai pleon wres meta to atyxhma h kybernhsh gnwrizei epishmws posoi htan oi epibainontes sto moiraio ploio; Epishs, syzhthqhke sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio o tropos ekdoshs twn eisithriwn;

XYTHRHS: Ayto to opoio oloi gnwrizoyme einai o katalogos twn epibatwn poy dinei h etaireia, dhladh, aytoi poy agorasan eisithria. Ayto ton katalogo diaqetoyme ki emeis apo thn etaireia. Basei aytoy toy katalogoy mporw na sas pw ton ariqmo twn epibatwn, ston opoio den synypologizontai ta paidia, ta opoia den plhrwnoyn eisithrio.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Syzhthqhke ayto sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio;

XYTHRHS: Anefere o k. Papoytshs toys ariqmoys poy yparxoyn stis katastaseis. Symfwna, loipon, me aytoys toys ariqmoys kai tis metrhseis poy exoyn ginei mexri twra, miloyme gia 524 epibates, 452 diaswqentes, 63 nekroys (apo toys opoioys 11 den exoyn anagnwristei) kai 9 agnooymenoys . Pisteyoyme oti oi agnooymenoi mporei na einai perissoteroi. Ginetai prospaqeia na breqei posoi einai oi egklwbismenoi sto ploio. Ayth h prospaqeia synexizetai kai shmera, giati o kairos den bohqoyse.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos kai h kybernhsh, en telei, einai ikanopoihmenoi apo ton tropo poy leitoyrghse h kratikh mhxanh;

XYTHRHS: O Prwqypoyrgos kai h kybernhsh den prepei pote na einai ikanopoihmenoi.

SOYRMELH: Epeidh h etaireia eixe milhsei sthn arxh gia 511 epibates kai apo o,ti blepoyme o ariqmos exei fqasei stoys 524, dhladh fainetai oti einai kai alloi epibates mesa, blepw oti fobaste pragmatika oti yparxoyn kai alloi epibates.

XYTHRHS: Pragmati, foboymaste giati yphrjan epibates, poy epibibasthkan thn teleytaia stigmh sto ploio kai ejedwsan eisithria entos toy ploioy.

MIXAHL: Yparxei ektimhsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy thn opoia ejefrase sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio gia to ti mporei na eftaije gia to dystyxhma;

XYTHRHS: Oloi exoyme tis ektimhseis kai thn apoch mas, gia to pws exoyn ta gegonota. Ginetai ereyna, anakrish poy qa aposafhnisei ta erwthmata poy egeirontai. Antilambaneste pws den qa htan ypeyqyno na leme me kathgorhmatikothta ti akribws einai ayto poy eftaije kai poios eftaije. As afhsoyme, epomenws, na ginei h ereyna, h anakrish, na ekdoqei to porisma, na askhqei diwjh. Melhma ths kybernhshs einai -kai sas to anefera- na ginoyn ola ayta me grhgoroys ryqmoys, gia na exoyme apotelesma se poly mikro xroniko diasthma.

MIXAHL: Den rwthsa poia einai h apoch toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Rwthsa, ean o Prwqypoyrgos ejefrase ektimhsh gia to ti mporei na egine.

XYTHRHS: O Prwqypoyrgos eipe ayta ta opoia sas anefera.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Afoy den einai ypeyqyno na kanoyme ola ayta poy eipate, giati me tetoia ypeyqynothta@

XYTHRHS: Sxolia mporeite na kanete kai profanws ginontai. Apla den eimai ypeyqynos na pw ti akribws ftaiei, otan malista ginetai hdh anakrish.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Giati tote me tetoia ypeyqynothta eipate prohgoymenws oti to karabi de sygkroysthke me th braxonhsida, epeidh den htan ajioploo. Poly ypeyqynh dhlwsh, giati thn kanate;

XYTHRHS: Giati to karabi sygkroysthke me th braxonhsida, epeidh profanws, phre lanqasmenh kateyqynsh. Den eixe thn kateyqynsh poy eprepe na exei.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Thn idia apanthsh qa dinete kai sto erwthma, giati boyliaje to karabi, pera apo to gegonos oti sygkroysthke;

XYTHRHS: Ypeiserxeste se texnika qemata. Qa doyn oi empeirognwmones giati boyliaje to karabi, se poio meros anoije, poy mphkan ta nera, ti egine kai ti den egine. Den eimaste armodioi na mpoyme se ena tetoio qema.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Syzhthsate sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kaqoloy to gegonos oti o ellhnikos Nhognwmonas einai aytos poy den apodexetai kamia naytiliakh yphresia kanenos kratoys ston kosmo h mallon einai o teleytaios sthn katastash ajiopistias twn nhognwmonwn toy kosmoy mazi me to liberiano kai par` ola ayta dinei pistopoihtika;

XYTHRHS: Sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio syzhthsame ayta poy sas eipa. Apo kei kai pera, oles tis sxetikes kai eidikes erwthseis poy exete, qa tis kanoyn fantazomai oi synadelfoi sas ston ypoyrgo Emporikhs Naytilias.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Epeidh diejagontai diafores ereynes, kata kairoys, gia nayagia, mhpws gia to teleytaio toy Atlantikoy poy xaqhkan 16 anqrwpoi, exoyme kamia ejelijh; Enhmerwse o ypoyrgos poia einai h poreia aytwn twn ereynwn;

XYTHRHS: Milhsame apokleistika gia to sygkekrimeno nayagio. Gia palaiotera nayagia exoyn bgei apofaseis, opws gia to Dystos kai alla, tis opoies gnwrizete. Emeis qeloyme oi opoies apofaseis gia to sygkekrimeno nayagio, me ta polla qymata, na ekdoqoyn to grhgorotero dynato. Ayth einai h epidiwjh mas.

BIDALH: Epeidh anaferqhkate dyo fores se symperifores megalocyxes kai se antiqeta fainomena, exete kati sygkekrimeno sto myalo sas;

XYTHRHS: Dystyxws yparxoyn antiqeta fainomena se aytes tis periptwseis. Eimai sigoyros oti kai sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh yphrjan.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Yparxei protash apo thn kybernhsh na allajei th synqesh ths Olympiakhs Epitrophs gia thn Olympiada h na proslabei jenoys petyxhmenoys manatzer apo to Sidnei;

XYTHRHS: Oxi.

ARGYROS: To prwto elikoptero to paralabame stis 19.10.1999, einai deka mhnes. Poso kairo krataei h ekpaideysh; Kai deyteron, einai alhqinh h plhroforia oti oloklhrwqhke h ekpaideysh toy prwtoy plhrwmatos prin apo dyo hmeres kai zhthqhke h adeia apo ton k. Apostolakh.

XYTHRHS: Den gnwrizw, einai texnika ayta poy me rwtate. Den eimai armodios na apanthsw. O k. Apostolakhs, pantws, ejedwse mia anakoinwsh sthn opoia sas parapempw.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Mhpws o Prwqypoyrgos sto shmerino Ypoyrgiko Symboylio zhthse apo ton ypoyrgo Emporikhs Naytilias h apo tis armodies yphresies na yparjei peraiterw enas eyryteros elegxos gia to poso ajioploa, en telei, einai ta ploia poy metaferoyn kosmo stis qalasses mas; Mhpws to zhthse;

XYTHRHS: O elegxos ginetai. Kai ginetai symfwna me ta eyrwpaika kai dieqnh ``stantar''. Ayto prepei na ginetai kai ayto ginetai.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Syzhthqhke sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio to qema oti boyleyths ekane kataggelia sto ypoyrgeio Emporikhs Naytilias kai zhthse stoixeia kai anti na apanthsei o ypoyrgos, oxi o k. Papoytshs, alla o k. Soymakhs, toy apanthse o efoplisths;

XYTHRHS: Den katanow thn erwthsh sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayto to zhthse o k. Alabanos. Kai anti na apanthsei o k. Soymakhs poy htan tote ypoyrgos, apanthse o efoplisths, o k. Sfhnias. To exete ypoch sas; Den ta exete diabasei shmera ayta k. Ypoyrge;

XYTHRHS: Ston k. Alabano qa apanthsei o k. Papoytshs gia th sygkekrimenh kataggelia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, alla sthn prohgoymenh kataggelia giati apanthse anti toy k. Soymakh o k. Sfhnias;

XYTHRHS: Den antilambanomai ayto poy rwtate. Otan kapoios ypobalei mia erwthsh sto ypoyrgeio, apanta to ypoyrgeio.

BITSENTZOY: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, ean gnwrizete kata poso o Prwqypoyrgos, ektos apo tis politikes eyqynes poy piqanon na zhthsei apo ton k. Papoytsh, qa zhthsei kai eyqynes kai apo ton k. Soymakh, gia thn politikh toy ta prohgoymena xronia sta qemata naytilias.

XYTHRHS: Den yparxei kati tetoio!

ARGYROS: Mhpws gnwrizete, otan o ypoyrgos phge sthn Paro, ean ta melh toy plhrwmatos kai oi ekproswpoi ths etaireias, toy prokalesan ekneyrismo;

XYTHRHS: Einai mia leptomereia, den anefere kati tetoio. Anefere ta gegonota.

SOYRMELH: Telika sth gefyra yphrxe ajiwmatikos;

XYTHRHS: Ginetai anakrish. Qa perimenoyme to porisma. Kai to porisma qa mas lysei oles tis apories. Oytws h allws h entolh einai na ejetastoyn ta aitia se baqos. Kai otan leme ``se baqos'' den menei ejw kaneis. Oyte oi ploiokthtes, oi opoioi mporei na krybontai pisw apo asfaleies. Qa plhrwsei o kaqenas ayto poy prepei na plhrwsei gi` ayto to nayagio. Se ayto eimaste apofasismenoi kai ``den koyname roypi'', apo th qesh ayth.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Symperilambanomenwn kai twn ypoyrgwn ths Kybernhshs;

XYTHRHS: Ayto poy rwtate einai asxeto me to nayagio.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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