Greek Government Press Briefing, 00-09-13

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 13 Septembrioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

BITSENTZOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, eginan kapoies dhlwseis toy Kofi Anan, peri Kypriakoy, sth Nea Yorkh, oi opoies prokalesan, kat` arxas, arnhtikes antidraseis, ap o,ti eida sto shmerino Typo. Par` oti den moy einai gnwsto to akribes lektiko ths sygkekrimenhs dhlwshs, hqela na maqw poia isxy exoyn gia thn Aqhna, oi symfwnies koryfhs, kyriws ayth toy 1979 metajy Kyprianoy-Ntenktas, peri politikhs isothtas Ellhnokypriwn kai Toyrkokypriwn.

REPPAS: Exoyme pei kat` epanalhch oti h anazhthsh lyshs sto kypriako problhma, qa prepei na kinhqei sto plaisio twn chfismatwn toy OHE kai, bebaiws, sto pneyma twn symfwniwn koryfhs poy eginan ekeinh thn periodo, sthn opoia ki eseis anafereste. Prepei, epishs, na pw oti ayto poy proexei, ayth thn krisimh periodo gia to kypriako zhthma, einai h enarjh oysiastikwn diapragmateysewn, prokeimenoy na odhghqoyme se mia lysh. Den prepei na epidoqoyme sthn ermhneia dhlwsewn h qesewn, poly perissotero otan aytes -mporei na pei kaneis- entassontai se mia taktikh, se mia prospaqeia poy ginetai gia thn proodo twn syzhthsewn. Oloi qa kriqoyn sto pedio twn oysiastikwn diapragmateysewn. Ayto einai poy exei shmasia. Giati xwris oysiastikes syzhthseis kai diapragmateyseis den einai dynato na syntelestei proodos kai na prokycei lysh sto kypriako qema. Kata ta alla, h kypriakh kybernhsh xeirizetai poly ypeyqyna ta qemata ayta. Den qa thn ypokatasthsw, den qa thn prokatalabw. Kai den einai swsto, gia logoys taktikhs, na kanoyme megalyterh anafora, ayth th stigmh, apo ayto to bhma, se ena qema to opoio h kypriakh kybernhsh xeirizetai kai oi xeirismoi poy prepei na ginoyn einai idiaiterws leptoi. Qa afhsoyme, loipon, thn kypriakh kybernhsh na xeiristei to qema me ton tropo poy gnwrizei kai me gnwmona pantote to symferon ths Kyproy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, h qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs sth dhlwsh ayth toy Kofi Anan, poia einai;

REPPAS: H qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, meta tis prosfates synomilies poy eginan kai sth Nea Yorkh me thn hgesia ths Kyproy, apotypwnetai stis prwtoboylies kai toys xeirismoys poy kanei h kypriakh kybernhsh. Hmoyn safhs se ayta poy eipa prin.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia th sygkekrimenh dhlwsh toy k. Anan, poy zhta, oysiastika anagnwrizei@

REPPAS: Hmoyn safhs se ayta poy eipa prin. Mhn perimenete na symbalw sthn peraiterw epektash ayths ths syzhthshs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ma, kyrie Ypoyrge, yparxei gegonos twra.

REPPAS: Ayta ta qemata exoyn apasxolhsei thn kypriakh kybernhsh, h opoia xeirizetai ypeyqyna ola ta sxetika problhmata poy anakyptoyn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayto twra einai san na rixnete to mpalaki sthn kypriakh kybernhsh.

REPPAS: Syzhthse h ellhnikh kybernhsh me thn kypriakh kybernhsh. H kypriakh kybernhsh kanei toys xeirismoys poy ekfrazoyn kai th qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs.

BITALHS: Sth DEQ o Prwqypoyrgos eneqarryne th symmetoxh kai ths kypriakhs pleyras sto neo gyrw synomiliwn. Meta apo ayth th dhlwsh, isxyei h qesh ths kybernhshs kai toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

REPPAS: Isxyoyn ayta poy eipe tote o Prwqypoyrgos kai ayta poy eipa shmera egw: oti oloi qa kriqoyn apo tis oysiastikes diapragmateyseis. Oi syzhthseis prepei na ginoyn gia oles tis ptyxes toy problhmatos, prepei na einai oysiastikes, giati mono etsi mporei na prokycei apotelesma.

MPOTWNHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, ayrio jekina kai epishma h syllogh ypografwn apo thn Ekklhsia. Mesa sto plaisio ths taktikhs ths, h Ierarxia ths Elladas zhta -ektos twn allwn- kai apo politikoys, boyleytes, na ypogracoyn kai malista prwtoi, s` ayto to makry katalogo. Edw blepoyme kai boyleytes toy PASOK na exoyn taxqei yper ayths ths diadikasias. Exete kapoio sxolio;

REPPAS: Kaqenas ekfrazei eleyqera tis apoceis toy kai exei thn eyqynh twn epilogwn toy. Mporw na sxoliasw mono oti o skopos den agiazei ta mesa, poly perissotero otan den einai kai toso agios aytos o idios o skopos. Giati h sygkentrwsh ypografwn, ek twn pragmatwn, enexei mia dixastikh leitoyrgia.

EYSTAQIOY: Sth synanthsh poy eixan o Proedros ths Dhmokratias me ton Prwqypoyrgo, prin apo ligo, h opoia htan h pio makra, isws, poy eixan oi dyo andres, syzhthqhke kai to qema ths diaplokhs;

REPPAS: Exei kanei sxetikes dhlwseis o Prwqypoyrgos, ejerxomenos apo to Proedriko Megaro. Qa meinoyme stis dhlwseis aytes.

EYSTAQIOY: Mia deyterh erwthsh: Telika o Prwqypoyrgos einai dysaresthmenos apo thn energeia toy k. Pagkaloy na mhn paei sto Sidnei h htan koinh synainesei, eixe th dikh toy synainesh na mh metabei sto Sidnei;

REPPAS: Gi` ayto to qema, apanthsa xqes. Moy eteqh akribws h idia erwthsh kai apanthsa oti o k. Pagkalos epikoinwnhse me ton Prwqypoyrgo, anefere toys logoys poy ton odhgoyn se ayth thn epilogh toy. O Prwqypoyrgos symfwnhse me to skeptiko toy ypoyrgoy Politismoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poioi einai oi logoi, k. Ypoyrge, mporeite na mas toys peite kai emas;

REPPAS: Toys anefera, xqes, me leptomereia. Sas parapempw sto xqesino briefing.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti milhse me ton Prwqypoyrgo. O Prwqypoyrgos dexqhke tis aitiaseis toy. Poioi einai oi logoi, oi sygkekrimenoi kai oysiastikoi logoi;

REPPAS: Prwton, den milhsa gia aitiaseis. Deyteron, anefera sygkekrimenoys logoys. Ariqmhsa, malista, treis. Lypoymai, dioti mia hmera meta, den toys qymaste. Shmainei oti den parakoloyqeite to briefing, an kai hsastan parwn. An anatrejete sth xqesinh syzhthsh, qa exete thn apanthsh sthn erwthsh sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oi oysiastikoi logoi, poioi einai k. Ypoyrge;

REPPAS: Toys anefera, xqes. Lypamai poy den toys qymaste.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mhpws einai oi misqoi poy dinei h ka Aggelopoyloy;

REPPAS: Apanthsa. Den ginetai etsi syzhthsh, k. Stamatopoyle.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ti apanthsate; Den lete tipota.

REPPAS: Den qelete na kanete ton kopo, na diabasete th xqesinh enhmerwsh twn politikwn syntaktwn;

KOYIN: Sto idio qema. Gnwrizete an to ypoyrgeio Politismoy kai sygkekrimena o ypoyrgos, exei ypogracei tis symbaseis h toylaxiston aytoys toys misqoys poy legete oti eisprattoyn ta stelexh toy "2004";

REPPAS: Apanthsa, xqes kai gi` ayto to qema.

KOYIN: Gnwrizete mhpws yparxei asymbibasto sto gegonos an aytoi oi anqrwpoi exoyn deyterh doyleia; Epitrepetai na ergastoyn stis kanonikes toys doyleies kai na pairnoyn aytoys toys misqoys;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw na exei qespistei kapoio asymbibasto aytoy toy eidoys. Apo ekei kai pera, ola ayta krinontai me bash tis ypoxrewseis poy analambanoyn, kata thn ypografh twn symbasewn toys, oloi oi ergazomenoi ston "Aqhna 2004" kai oi dhmosiografoi. Asfalws, qa prepei na afosiwqoyn sta kaqhkonta toys. Den einai dynaton h doyleia toys na xarakthrizetai apo ena eidos polydiaspashs. H doyleia toys qa prepei na einai sto "2004" kai h ypoxrewsh toys einai na probaloyn ta qemata toy "2004".

KARELIAS: O k. Benizelos, o eishghths toy PASOK sth syntagmatikh anaqewrhsh, afoy kateqese th diatajh poy anaferetai sth diafaneia, gia na mpei sto Syntagma, dhlwse oti o idios qa thn ekane aysthroterh ayth th diatajh. Ayto egine meta th synanthsh toy me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Kai ayth h dhlwsh toy k. Benizeloy ermhneyetai shmera ws aixmh gia ton Prwqypoyrgo. Exete kapoio sxolio;

REPPAS: Kamia aixmh den synista mia tetoia dhlwsh. Gnwrizete oti yphrje, pragmati, ayth h synergasia. O k. Benizelos gnwrizei poly kala ayta ta qemata. Einai o eishghths ths pleiochfias kai metaferei tis qeseis ths pleiochfias, poy einai kai dikes toy qeseis. Allwste, einai aytos o opoios exei ekponhsei thn poly emperistatwmenh basikh eishghsh ths pleiochfias.

KARELIAS: Allh mia erwthsh sto idio qema. Xqes, syzhtoysame edw gia to qema twn syggenwn, opws qymaste. Telika, ayth h diatajh poy na perilambanei kai toys syggeneis idiwtikwn Meswn Enhmerwshs den qa perilhfqei sto Syntagma me bash th diatajh poy kateqese o k. Benizelos. H desmeysh oti qa erqei argotera nomos poy qa perilambanei kai toys syggeneis, isxyei;

REPPAS: H telikh apofash qa lhfqei kata th syzhthsh poy qa ginei, prokeimenoy na chfisqoyn oi sygkekrimenes diatajeis poy qa perilhfqoyn sto ypo anaqewrhsh Syntagma ths xwras. H kybernhsh qa epidiwjei, se synennohsh me ta alla kommata, na proxwrhsei se tetoies ryqmiseis poy qa diasfalizoyn, akomh perissotero, th diafaneia h thn apofygh sygkentrwshs dynamhs sto xwro twn MME, alla kai se oloys toys tomeis toy dhmosioy bioy. Me ayth thn ennoia, eimaste anoiktoi se mia tetoia syzhthsh. Kai eimaste etoimoi na proxwrhsoyme se tetoies ryqmiseis poy qa ikanopoioyn analoga aithmata. To eipa xqes ayto kai paramenw se ayth th qesh.

PAPAXRHSTOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qelw na sas rwthsw eyqarsws, h ka Aggelopoyloy apolambanei ths empistosynhs toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai ths kybernhshs;

REPPAS: Qa sas apanthsw eyqarsws! H hgesia toy "2004" exei thn plhrh empistosynh ths kybernhshs. To eipa xqes kai ayto.

MPOYRDARAS: H kybernhsh qewrei thn Oikoymenikh Kybernhsh toy ' 89, sthn opoia symmeteixe kai o Idryths toy PASOK Andreas Papandreoy ws mia apo tis pleon adiafaneis ths metapolemikhs periodoy;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti ayto to opoio eipe o k. Benizelos to synedese me mia sygkekrimenh, tekmhriwmenh epixeirhmatologia. Milhse gia mia politikh paratajh, h opoia htan fimwmenh kai adynamh, ek twn pragmatwn, na parei prwtoboylies. Kata ta alla, epeidh ginetai polys logos gia ton Andrea Papandreoy kai th mnhmh toy, ta istorika dedomena einai gnwsta se oloys. O rolos toy kaqena, epishs, einai gnwstos.

O Andreas Papandreoy exei mia idiaitera shmantikh istorikh diadromh. H Dikaiosynh, gia ta qemata ayta, exei krinei kai apofasisei, alla exei apofasisei kai o ellhnikos laos poy anedeije kai pali prwqypoyrgo ton Andrea Papandreoy, pragma monadiko sth metapoliteytikh politikh istoria toy topoy.

<> apodexqei kai eipe qa to prosqesoyme. Exei mesolabhsei kati kai den to prosqese;

REPPAS: Apanthsa se sxetikh erwthsh toy k. Karelia. Htan akribws h idia, kata to periexomeno, erwthsh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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