Greek Government Press Briefing, 00-09-07

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 7 Septembrioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YFYPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

THLEMAXO XYTHRH

Geia sas

Ena xrono shmera meta ton katastreptiko seismo poy eplhje th xwra mas, qelw, ek meroys toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai ths kybernhshs, na ekfrasw kai pali th baqytath lyph pros toys syggeneis, tis oikogeneies twn 143 qymatwn aytoy toy seismoy. Htan mia megalh dokimasia gia th xwra mas, h opoia eplhje polloys anqrwpoys kai eixe polles dysmeneis parenergeies. H kybernhsh, apo thn prwth stigmh, edeije thn etoimothta ths, eyriskomenh dipla stis perioxes kai stoys anqrwpoys poy eplhghsan. Ena xrono meta, yparxoyn akoma pragmata na ginoyn, kyriws se o,ti afora tis kataskeyes. O seismos einai mia fysikh katastrofh. Kai einai aytonohto oti den mporei na ``pataei'' kaneis ena koympi kai na ginontai ola apo th mia stigmh sthn allh, teleia, opws qa hqele. O Prwqypoyrgos, epistrefontas apo to tajidi toy stis HPA, qa sygkalesei syskech, sthn opoia qa ejetastoyn ta qemata ayta, ta problhmata poy paramenoyn. Epitrecte moy, omws, na kataggeilw to logo ths antipoliteyshs, to logo toy k. Karamanlh, o opoios, ekmetalleyomenos ton anqrwpino pono, apodeiknyetai kai pali katwteros twn peristasewn, me tis dhlwseis tis opoies exei kanei gia to qema ayto.

Epeidh, shmera to prwi, sth Boylh synebhsan diafora, as proxwrhsw sto epomeno qema. Shmera, sth Boylh, h antipoliteysh den dexqhke na syzhthqei h gnwsth tropologia, poy kateqese h kybernhsh, dia toy yfypoyrgoy Aqlhtismoy G. Flwridh. Epeidh o Proedros ths Boylhs k. Kaklamanhs eixe dhlwsei oti meta apo omofwnia olwn twn kommatwn qa mporesei na syzhthqei h tropologia, h tropologia aposyrqhke kai entos ths hmeras katatiqetai ws nomosxedio. O k. Flwridhs dinei twra, stis 13.00, synenteyjh Typoy. Qelw na sas pw oti exei thn plhrh empistosynh ths kybernhshs. Na anarwthqoyme, omws, giati h antipoliteysh den dexqhke na syzhthqei h tropologia. Einai diadikastiko to qema; Epeidh polla legontai gia tis diaplokes kai ta toiayta ``idoy h Rodos, idoy kai to phdhma''. Sas afhnw na to skefqeite monoi sas kai na to gracete.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

SOYGLERHS: Qelw na rwthsw, poy brisketai h alhqeia, mias kai me to qema toy katastrofikoy seismoy, akoysame xqes ton k. Karamanlh na xarakthrizei apogohteytikh thn katastash ekei poy htan parwn, sto Menidi kai zhthse apo thn kybernhsh na afhsei ta logia, na thrhsei tis yposxeseis poy edwse prin apo ena xrono kai na ylopoihqei olo to programma poy yposxeqhke, giati einai krima oi anqrwpoi na briskontai se aytoys toys kataylismoys. Poy brisketai h alhqeia;

XYTHRHS: Milhsa gia to qema. Exei milhsei, epishs, o ypoyrgos PEXWDE. Sas eipa oti qa ginei syskech ep aytoy, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy, molis epistrecei apo tis HPA.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eprepe na perasei enas xronos gia na kanei o Prwqypoyrgos ayth th syskech; Den mporoyse pio prin; Eprepe na symplhrwqei enas xronos, na arxisoyn pali na diamartyrontai oi anqrwpoi, dikaiologhmena bebaia, gia na kanei th syskech;

XYTHRHS: Ma, poy zeite k. Stamatopoyle; O Prwqypoyrgos episkefqhke oles aytes tis perioxes. H kybernhsh phre amesa metra. To gnwrizete poly kala. H etoimothta ths kybernhshs exei genikws anagnwristei, antikeimenika, apo oloys. Sas eipa oti yparxoyn akoma problhmata, kyriws stis kataskeyes. Einai, epomenws, enas logos parapanw, na ginei h syskech ayth twra, na doyme poy yparxoyn ta kwlymata, poia einai kai pws qa yperphdhqoyn, na yparjoyn oi lyseis poy prepei na doqoyn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai prin apo eji mhnes eixan katateqei ypomnhmata kai eipan oti qa kanoyn syskeceis gia na lyqoyn ta problhmata kai, omws, akoma den exei lyqei tipota. Gi ayta eipe o k. Karamanlhs. Eipe oti perase enas xronos kai den egine tipota.

XYTHRHS: Se olo ayto to diasthma den oligwrhse h kybernhsh. Htan dipla stoys seismopaqeis kai ekane para polla pragmata. Exoyn ginei para polla pragmata. O k. Laliwths ta ejeqese ola ayta sth synenteyjh toy. Episkefqhke, epishs, aytoys toys xwroys. To idio egine kai apo kybernhtika klimakia. Tote -opws qymaste- h ypoyrgos Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs, Basw Papandreoy, episkefqhke, epishs, toys xwroys aytoys. Den qelw na epanalambanw ta idia. Bebaiws, yparxoyn akomh pragmata poy prepei na ginoyn. Den lynontai ta problhmata ayta, poyqena ston kosmo, apo th mia mera sthn allh, otan prokeitai gia fysikes katastrofes, tetoioy megeqoys. Kai edw prokeitai gia katastrofes aytoy toy eidoys. Gi ayto symbainoyn ayta ta opoia lete. H kybernhsh einai edw gia na oloklhrwsei thn apokatastash twn seismopaqwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pote k. Ypoyrge;

XYTHRHS: Allh erwthsh.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs stis kinhseis melwn ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs, alla kai ths PASKE poy syllegoyn ypografes deixnontas thn antiqesh toys sta metra poy proteinei h kybernhsh gia ta ergasiaka;

XYTHRHS: To PASOK exei xiliades stelexh se olh thn Ellada. Yparxei h eleyqeria ths apochs kai ayto symbainei me tis ypografes poy lete.

PITTARAS: O Prwqypoyrgos einai ``ageystos'', opws leei h Ierarxia sthn egkyklio ths;

XYTHRHS: Gia janapeste to ayto!!!

PITTARAS: Sthn egkyklio, poy qa dianemhqei stis Mhtropoleis gia th syllogh ypografwn, ginetai logos gia ena ``idiotypo politistiko biasmo'' poy ginetai apo ``ageystoys ths politikhs''.

XYTHRHS: Thn egkyklio den th gnwrizw. Den jerw an einai etsi ta pragmata opws ta lete. Ean yparxoyn xarakthrismoi -etsi opws toys anaferete- qa elega oti den timoyn kaqoloy thn idia thn Ekklhsia kai einai katwteroi sxoliasmoy. H kybernhsh kai o kaqe Ellhnas pisteyw exei chla thn Ekklhsia kai th Qrhskeia. Ekei, qa prepei na krathqei.

FILHS: Xqes, o eishghths toy PASOK gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos kateqese mia tropologia gia to qema ths diaplokhs. Ti einai ekeino poy ekane thn kybernhsh, to kybernwn komma na proxwrhsei se alles skeceis kai na kataqesei ayth thn tropologia, enw toso kairo epemene oti den yparxei qema allaghs toy yfistamenoy qesmikoy kai nomikoy plaisioy;

XYTHRHS: Apo thn prwth stigmh eipame oti yparxei to qesmiko plaisio sto opoio kinoymaste. Eipame, akomh, oti opoy epidexetai beltiwseis, emeis eimaste oi prwtoi poy qa tis prowqhsoyme, sto plaisio ths syzhthshs gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos. Epomenws, peri aytoy prepei na milate. O eishghths ths pleiochfias, k. Benizelos, kanei sxetikh protash. Opws, protash exei kanei kai h N.D. Xqes, malista, sas eixa pei na sygkrinete tis dyo protaseis.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, diabazw shmera antikroyomenes plhrofories se antapokriseis apo th Nea Yorkh, opoy h men mia leei oti o Proedros Klinton qa synanthqei kat idian me ton Toyrko Proedro Sezer h qa synanthqei kat` idian me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Oi alles lene oti qa synanthqoyn kai oi dyo kat` idian me ton Amerikano Proedro. O k. Shmiths qa synanthqei telika me ton k. Klinton kat idian;

XYTHRHS: O k. Shmiths parakaqise se epishmo deipno me ton Proedro Klinton kai eixe synanthsh@

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Milaw gia kat idian synanthsh me ton Proedro Klinton.

XYTHRHS: Sto plaisio, toy epishmoy deipnoy poy pareqese o k. Klinton pros timhn twn hgetwn ths diaskechs toy Berolinoy, o Prwqypoyrgos synanthqhke me ton Amerikano Proedro.

SOYRMELH: Blepw, shmera, sta "NEA" mia istoria pali gia to qema toy entalmatos syllhcews toy Milosebits. Yparxei kati neotero; Efqase teleytaia ayto to entalma syllhchs apo thn Interpol; Ti yparxei panw se ayto to qema kai pws h Ellada qa antimetwpize thn periptwsh poy qa briskontan sthn Ellada melh apo ayth th lista poy toys kynhgaei h Interpol;

XYTHRHS: Den gnwrizw peri toy entalmatos, oyte qelw na to amfisbhthsw. H Ellada panta sebetai tis dieqneis ypoxrewseis ths. Den prokyptei, oyte problepetai episkech toy k. Milosebits sth xwra mas. Allh erwthsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sto idio qema. Den yparxei problhma me ton k. Milosebits otan phgainei kai ton blepei o Ellhnas ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn; To oti blepei enan katazhtoymeno;

XYTHRHS: Antiqetws! Den yparxei problhma. To kyros ths Elladas sta Balkania einai ayjhmeno. Ayto akribws katadeiknyei to tajidi ayto toy k. Papandreoy sthn perioxh kai to Beligradi. H Ellada ayto poy qelei -kai to eipa kai xqes- einai h anadeijh ths perioxhs, h kalh synergasia, h prooptikh olwn twn xwrwn ths Balkanikhs gia entajh sthn E.E. Kai bebaiws, h thrhsh twn dhmokratikwn diadikasiwn se oles tis xwres ths perioxhs.

GIAKOYMHS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, ean gnwrizete kapoies plhrofories poy anaferoyn oti yphrje ena problhma me to aeroskafos toy k. Papandreoy ston enaerio xwro ths Gioygkoslabias, paromoio me ayto toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

XYTHRHS: Kati diabasa sxetika me ayto to qema ki egw, alla den nomizw oti xrhzei idiaiteroy sxoliasmoy.

SOYRMELH: Sxetika me thn Olympiakh Aeroporia, alhqeyoyn oi plhrofories poy kykloforoyn synexws oti telika qa ginei diaxwrismos se dyo etairies poy h mia qa parei to paqhtiko kai h allh to qetiko meros;

XYTHRHS: Ola ayta einai eikasies. Qa prepei na perimenete tis epishmes anakoinwseis ths kybernhshs kai toy kaq ylhn armodioy ypoyrgoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Na epanelqw sto qema ths tropologias. Gnwrizete oti phgan boyleytes toy PASOK ston Proedro ths Boylhs kai zhthsan na aposyrei thn tropologia;

XYTHRHS: O Proedros ths Boylhs -sas eipa kai prin- dhlwse oti h tropologia syzhteitai, an yparxei omofwnia na syzhthqei. H omofwnia ayth den yphrje, dioti h antipoliteysh den dexqhke na syzhthqei shmera h tropologia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, alla sas lew oti den htan monoi. Htan kai boyleytes toy PASOK poy to zhthsan. To gnwrizete ayto;

XYTHRHS: Twra koytsompolia qa kanoyme;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oxi koytsompolia.

XYTHRHS: Sas eipa th qesh toy Proedroy ths Boylhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eseis lete, mono h antipoliteysh htan. Egw sas rwtw, gnwrizete an yphrxan kai boyleytes toy PASOK;

XYTHRHS: Aytoi poy ekfrasthkan sth Boylh anhkoyn sthn antipoliteysh.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Exete na kanete kapoio sxolio gia tis dhlwseis toy k. Giannh Kefalogiannh, xqes sth Boylh, o opoios eipe oti me symfwnia twn triwn arxhgwn, kata thn periodo diakybernhshs ths Oikoymenikhs, egine h anaqesh twn chfiakwn to kalokairi toy 1989;

XYTHRHS: Ayto einai ena istoriko dedomeno. Mporei na einai etsi, an egine me prwtoboylia toy k. Zolwta. Alla den eimai proxeiros na apanthsw epakribws. Qa to dw.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Exoyn ginei kapoies epafes toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn me th serbikh pleyra, giati mesa se dyo hmeres eixame dyo apanwta problhmata, ta idia, toso me to aeroplano toy Prwqypoyrgoy, oso kai me to aeroplano toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn. O k. Papandreoy htan xqes gia 15' ston aera kai perimene na prosgeiwqei to aeroplano toy. Yparxei kapoio problhma me th serbikh pleyra;

XYTHRHS: Dinete proektaseis nomizw ayqaireta, sta qemata ayta. Gia to qema toy tajidioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy milhsame ektenws edw, xqes kai proxqes. Kai gnwrizete thn ejelijh sthn Olympiakh ep aytoy. Epomenws, as mhn proxwroyme peran toy deontos. O ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Giwrgos Papandreoy brisketai ekei kai exei epishmes synanthseis. Ayto mila apo mono toy.

Sas eyxaristw.

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