Greek Government Press Briefing, 00-09-06

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 6 Septembrioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YFYPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

THLEMAXO XYTHRH

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MPOTWNHS: Xqes, sas rwthsa gia to arqro toy Arxiepiskopoy, to diabasate; An, nai, qa hqela na sxoliasete toso to arqro ayto, oso kai thn epistolh toy Arxiepiskopoy pros ton ypoyrgo Paideias poy leei oti einai antisyntagmatikh h afairesh twn qrhskeytikwn apo tis panellhnies ejetaseis.

XYTHRHS: Diabasa to arqro poy epishmanate xqes, sto periodiko ``Efhmerios'' kai akoysa apospasmata toy na metadidontai sta deltia eidhsewn. Prepei na pw oti prospaqhsa na to katalabw, dioti -opws anaferetai sto idio to arqro- ginetai mia cyxografikh analysh, mia cyxologikh proseggish toy Ellhna kai ths ellhnikhs koinwnias. Den jerw, bebaia, ti sxesh exei h meqodos ayth me thn Orqodojia, alla ek toy apotelesmatos mporw na krinw. Kai prepei na pw oti oi Ellhnes einai yperhfanoi poy zoyn ston topo toys, giati o topos mas proodeyei, h koinwnia proodeyei. Den yparxoyn Ellhnes, oi opoioi na niwqoyn qymata kanenos. Kai qelw na tonisw th lejh ``kanenos''. Gia to allo qema poy me rwtate, ekdoqhke anakoinwsh apo ton ypoyrgo Paideias. Doqhkan oi epistoles sth dhmosiothta. Arkoymai se ayto.

BITZENTZOY: Gia poio logo epimenei o Ellhnas ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn na metabei ayrio sto Beligradi gia na synanthqei me ton omologo toy,, paragnwrizontas to gegonos oti entos twn prosexwn ebdomadwn qa ginoyn ekei ekloges kai ara, empleketai kai h xwra mas sta eswterika ths geitonos, epipleon kai meta apo to xqesino ``kacwni'' ston Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo;

XYTHRHS: Prwta ap ola, qelw na sas pw oti den synista kanenos eidoys emplokh to tajidi toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy sta eswterika qemata kanenos. H qesh ths Elladas einai gnwsth, exei diatypwqei epaneilhmmena kai apo ton Prwqypoyrgo kai apo ton Ypoyrgo. H stash mas einai yper ths arshs toy embargo. H stash mas einai yper ths eyrwpaikhs proseggishs twn Balkaniwn me thn Enwmenh Eyrwph. H prospaqeia mas einai ayth. Na sas pw kai thn eidhsh: ayrio to prwi, o k. Papandreoy synantatai me ton k. Milosebits, me ton k. Miloytinobits kai, asfalws, me ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn, opws hdh gnwrizete.

Oson afora ayto to opoio sxoliasate sto telos, exete dei thn anakoinwsh ths O.A. Ofeilei edw na pei kaneis oti prepei na einai epaggelmatika entajei, yphresiaka entajei, se aytes tis periptwseis kai kati tetoio fainetai -opws eidate apo thn anakoinwsh- oti den yphrje apo thn pleyra mas. Symplhrwnw oti o proedros kai dieyqynwn symboylos ths O.A. k. Dionyshs Kalofwnos ypebale, epishs, thn paraithsh toy ston ypoyrgo k. Berelh, h opoia den egine apodekth. Otan den eimaste emeis yphresiakws entajei kai opws prepei, tote dinoyme labes gia na ginontai sxolia, ta opoia, polles fores, den einai swsta.

BITSENTZOY: Dieykrinistika: Dhladh, qelete na peite oti den exei kamia eyqynh h serbikh kybernhsh gia o,ti synebh xqes sto prwqypoyrgiko aeroplano; H eyqynh peftei sthn O.A. kaq oloklhria;

XYTHRHS: Opws eipa, h eyqynh einai yphresiakh ths O.A.

BITSENTZOY: Mas eipate oti qa synanthqei o k. Papandreoy me ton k. Milosebits. Den einai politikh nomimopoihsh toy Milosebits, liges hmeres prin apo tis ekloges, na synomilei me ton Ellhna ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn;

XYTHRHS: O k. Milosebits einai Proedros ths Gioygkoslabias kai epomenws, th nomimopoihsh toy, opoia einai ayth, thn exei. Ti qa ginei stis ekloges kai meta tis ekloges einai allo qema. O k. Papandreoy den qa milhsei me ton k. Milosebits gia ta eswterika problhmata ths Gioygkoslabias.

BITSENTZOY: Alla, gnwrizoyme oti einai kai ypologos sto Poiniko Dikasthrio ths Xaghs o k. Milosebits..

XYTHRHS: H Dieqnhs Koinothta kai oi Eyrwpaioi gnwrizoyn gia to tajidi toy k. Papandreoy sto Beligradi.

BITALHS: Giati epelegh telika to xroniko diasthma, paramones eklogwn; Den yphrxe nwritera xronos na metabei ekei o k. Papandreoy kai na synanthqei;

XYTHRHS: O k. Papandreoy syxna-pykna episkeptetai th Gioygkoslabia kai tis alles balkanikes xwres.

BITALHS: Kai sta Skopia kai th Gioygkoslabia yparxoyn ekloges@

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Htan programmatismenh ayth h synanthsh me ton k. Milosebits h kriqhke aparaithth na pragmatopoihqei, meta tis dhlwseis toy k. Giobanobits, thn prohgoymenh ebdomada kai osa eginan tis teleytaies hmeres;

XYTHRHS: Htan programmatismenh, alla symfwna me tis epikratoyses ekei diadikasies, tis synhqeis, oristhke h wra ths synanthshs.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Qelw na rwthsw ean o k. Papandreoy qa metaferei kai kat idian ston k. Milosebits thn apoch toy Prwqypoyrgoy, oti o Milosebits apotelei paragonta apostaqeropoihshs sthn perioxh kai oti prepei na fygei apo thn proedria ths Gioygkoslabias.

XYTHRHS: Poios ta leei ayta;

MPOGIOPOYLOS: O k. Shmiths sth Qessalonikh.

XYTHRHS: Etsi ta eipe;

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Malista.

XYTHRHS: Laqos kanete. Ayth einai dikh sas ermhneia. O Prwqypoyrgos milhse dhmosiws kai ayta poy eipe einai katagrammena.

ELENOPOYLOS: To rhma ``gnwrizei'' h Dieqnhs Koinothta kai oi Eyrwpaioi thn episkech Papandreoy sto Beligradi, na to eklabw me olh th shmasia toy; Gnwrizei, dhladh, ta panta, to periexomeno kai dinei to o.k.;

XYTHRHS: Egw den mporw na kanw sxolia, opws qelete na kanete eseis kai exete to dikaiwma na kanete. Egw prepei na sas pw ta gegonota. To gegonos einai, loipon, oti gnwrizoyn gia thn episkech ayth kai gia th synanthsh.

ARGYROS: H episkech toy k. Papandreoy einai asxeth me thn eklogikh diadikasia sth Gioygkoslabia;

XYTHRHS: Den exei kamia sxesh h episkech ayth -sas to eipa kai prin- me ta eswterika problhmata kai tis ekloges sth Gioygkoslabia.

BITSENTZOY: Metaferei kapoio mhnyma o k. Papandreoy ston k. Milosebits ek meroys ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs h ths E.E.;

XYTHRHS: O k. Papandreoy, sas eipa hdh -kai menw se ayto- exei episkefqei epaneilhmmenws thn perioxh kai to Beligradi. Qa synanthqei me ton k. Milosebits. Apo ekei kai pera, oi dhlwseis gia tis synanthseis kata thn periodeia ayth, anhkoyn ston idio, ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn kai profanws qa ginoyn.

ARGYROS: Me stelexh ths antipoliteyshs qa synanthqei o k. Papandreoy;

XYTHRHS: Den yparxei kati tetoio.

ALEJAKH: Mia efhmerida grafei, shmera, oti o yfypoyrgos Aqlhtismoy proteine xqes se podosfairikes etairies na diwjoyn ton Proedro ths EPAE kai meta na mpoyn sto STOIXHMA. To STOIXHMA einai ayto poy anhkei sthn etairia "INTRALOT". Etsi einai; Eipe kati tetoio o k. Flwridhs;

XYTHRHS: Oyte kati tetoio eipe, oyte kati tetoio einai o stoxos toy k. Flwridh. O stoxos einai h ajiopistia toy podosfairoy. Kai ayto einai ena mhnyma apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs pros to xwro ayto. Apo ekei kai pera, einai sto xeri twn paragontwn toy xwroy kai ths EPAE na katasthsoyn pragmatika ajiopisto to prwtaqlhma podosfairoy sth xwra mas. Kamia sxesh den exei ayto me to STOIXHMA. Otan ginei koinh pepoiqhsh oti to prwtaqlhma einai ajiopisto, tote mporei na ginoyn kai opoiesdhpote alles syzhthseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Lete oti den einai ajiopisto to prwtaqlhma eseis;

XYTHRHS: Symfwna me dhlwseis twn idiwn twn paragontwn toy podosfairoy. Yparxoyn, kata kairoys, polles dhlwseis@

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poiwn; Lete anwnyma "paragontwn toy podosfairoy". Poioi einai;

XYTHRHS: Yparxoyn diaforoi. Proedroi twn PAE, k.t.l.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Aytoi oi Proedroi, poy lene oti einai anajiopisto, poioi einai;

XYTHRHS: Exoyn yparjei dhlwseis aytoy toy eidoys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poianoy; Peste onomata. Mh mas lete oti "yparxoyn dhlwseis". Poios tis exei kanei;

XYTHRHS: Gia na lew oti yparxoyn dhlwseis, profanws yparxoyn. An eiste dhmosiografos kai reporter, mporeite na tis breite.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eimai dhmosiografos kai reporter kai qelw onomata. Peste poioi einai. . Den mporei na krybetai h kybernhsh pisw apo anwnymies.

XYTHRHS: Qa ta breite ola ayta me to reportaz poy qa kanete.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai gia thn tropologia poy kateqese o yfypoyrgos Aqlhtismoy: H tropologia ayth giati; Ekriqh eji ypoyrgoi na asxolhqoyn me mia katadikh, toy Proedroy ths EPAE, h opoia einai ston aera. Giati kaqisan eji ypoyrgoi na asxolhqoyn; Exoyn proswpika me ton k. Mhtropoylo;

XYTHRHS: Sas eipa -kai menw se ayto- oti stoxos ths kybernhshs kai toy k. Flwridh einai na yparjei ena prwtaqlhma, to opoio qa einai ajiopisto.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o "Rizospasths", shmera, kathgorei thn kybernhsh -kai einai qema poy sas afora- gia "Makarqismo" se o,ti afora ton tropo me ton opoio antimetwpisthke h synenteyjh Typoy, sth Qessalonikh. Qelw ena sxolio ep aytoy.

XYTHRHS: Koitajte, sxolia epi sxoliwn efhmeridwn egw den qa kanw.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Mporeite na moy peite, giati sth Qessalonikh -peran olwn twn allwn- apokleisthkan kai oi efhmerides ths Aristeras kai bebaia oxi mono. Alla giati eidika ths Aristeras; Exete kapoia ejhghsh gi` ayto;

XYTHRHS: Egw den pisteyw sth qewria toy apokleismoy. Stis synenteyjeis, synhqws, symbainoyn ayta.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Pote exei janasymbei; Mporeite na moy qymisete;

XYTHRHS: Den qymamai, alla mporei na symbei ayto se synenteyjeis. Den einai dynato na rwtoyn oloi. Panta yparxoyn parapona. Kati tetoio synebh kai twra. Ayto einai kai tipota parapanw. Den prepei na dinoyme alles diastaseis. Den yparxoyn.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Afhnete, dhladh, anoikto to endexomeno na janasymbei, apo o,ti katalabainw@;

XYTHRHS: Ayto panta symbainei, otan yparxoyn para polles oi erwthseis kai einai periorismenos o xronos. Den qymamai, akribws, ton ariqmo twn erwthsewn poy ypeblhqhsan ston Prwqypoyrgo, sth Qessalonikh, alla fantazomai oti htan panw apo 30.

MIXAS: Qa hqela na epanelqw sto qema ths periodeias toy k. Papandreoy sta Balkania. Eipate oti den exei sxesh me tis eklogikes diadikasies poy qa symboyn to epomeno xroniko diasthma. O ekproswpos toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn den to qewrhse jexwristo pragma kai oson afora, toylaxiston, th Gioygkoslabia, eipe oti oi ekloges apoteloyn mia teleytaia istorikh eykairia. Qewrhse, dhladh, oti to timing den einai tyxaio kai oti se treis perioxes, sthn Albania, ta Skopia kai th Gioygkoslabia, exoyn ekloges. Den to qewrhse tyxaio. Eseis, shmera, mas lete oti ayto apokleietai, den exei sxesh, dhladh, me tis ekloges h episkech Papandreoy. To ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn exei pei alla pragmata.

XYTHRHS: Egw paramenw se ayto to opoio sas apanthsa.

ARGYROS: Gia tis diaplokes yparxei, se synexeia, tipota;

XYTHRHS: Gi ayta milhsame xqes kai o nown noeitw. Den exw na pw tipote allo. Exw na sas pw mono oti sth Boylh ginetai twra syzhthsh -poy jerete, kai sas kalw na thn parakoloyqhsete- sto plaisio ths anaqewrhshs toy Syntagmatos kai oti ekei yparxoyn protaseis gia megalyterh qwrakish ths dhmokratias kai ths diafaneias. Kai sas parakalw na kanete sygkrish twn protasewn toy PASOK me ekeines ths N.D. panw sto qema ayto.

MIXAHL: H kybernhsh, politika, einai anoikth, mporei dhladh, na dexqei protaseis gia thn enisxysh ayths ths qwrakishs h o,ti h idia exei epejergastei ayto, einai kai tipota parapanw;

XYTHRHS: Sas eipa oti ginetai syzhthsh sth Boylh gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos. Yparxei qema se ayto to opoio syzhtame kai topoqethsh twn kommatwn panw se ayto. Kai ayto exei megalh shmasia, giati einai syntagmatiko. Apo ekei kai pera, tis syzhthseis poy ginontai, tis protaseis poy katatiqentai tis parakoloyqoyme oles, me megalo endiaferon. Ayto deixnei, ejalloy kai h synanthsh poy egine xqes, metajy toy k. Kwnstantopoyloy kai toy k. Skandalidh.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Se synexeia prohgoymenoy qematos peri enhmerwshs kai ths kybernhtikhs stashs apenanti se ayto to zhthma, qa hqela na qesw twra ena paremferes qema: Ws armodios yfypoyrgos, qa hqela na moy ejhghsete poia anagkh enhmerwshs kalyptetai apo ta kratika thleoptika Mesa, ta opoia synhqizoyn na dinoyn terastio thleoptiko xrono gia na paroysiazoyn tis boltes kai tis drasthriothtes ths k. Dafnhs Shmith, opws synebh sth Qessalonikh;

XYTHRHS: H erwthsh sas den ginetai kan apodekth, dioti ayto to eidame apo ola ta MME, apo oloys toys thleoptikoys staqmoys. Twra, pws eseis epilektika milate mono gia ta kratika@

Sas eyxaristw.

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