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Greek Government Press Briefing, 00-08-25Greek Government Press Briefings in ASCII Greek Directory - Previous Article - Next ArticleFrom: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHSAqhna, 25 Aygoystoy 2000H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWNJENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA Geia sas. Einai se ejelijh oi pyrkagies se diafora metwpa. Xqes, eixame ena poly megalo ariqmo. Shmera o ariqmos twn pyrkagiwn se olh thn Ellada kymainetai se peripoy 50 pyrkagies. Pio shmantikes einai oi pyrkagies sta Iwannina, thn Arkadia kai th Sperxeiada. Dystyxws exoyme epta nekroys stis pyrkagies sthn perioxh twn Iwanninwn. Ekfrazoyme th baqia lyph mas. Oloi oi nekroi einai hlikias anw twn 70 etwn. Den katesth dynato na swqoyn oi hlikiwmenoi aytoi sympolites mas. Epishs, prepei na sas pw oti ayth thn wra epixeiroyn oles oi dynameis toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos kai twn allwn yphresiwn, kaqws kai ola ta enaeria mesa kai ta alla mesa poy exoyme sth diaqesh mas. Kai einai arketa. Oi kairikes synqhkes einai antijoes. Oi pyrkagies, shmera, mporei na pei kaneis, htan se yfesh se kapoia metwpa, alla ayth thn wra, opws plhroforhqhka, h entash twn anemwn odhgei se anazwpyrwseis me ta problhmata poy dhmioyrgei ayth h ejelijh. H kybernhsh toy Israhl mas enhmerwse oti qa enisxysei thn prospaqeia mas, apostellontas dyo elikoptera. Exoyme zhthsei kai apo th Germania analogh bohqeia kai anamenetai h apanthsh. Alles xwres ths mesogeiakhs Eyrwphs adynatoyn na antapokriqoyn, giati prepei na antimetwpisoyn analoga problhmata sto eswteriko toys. Sas enhmerwnw oti se alles megales xwres, opws h Gallia, h Ispania, ta mesa poy diaqetoyn den einai eykolo na epixeirhsoyn ola. Einai poly dyskoles oi synqhkes kai kataponhmena ta mesa apo thn yperprospaqeia poy exei katablhqei tis teleytaies hmeres gia na antimetwpistoyn oi pyrkagies stis xwres aytes. Einai pragmatika mia ejairetika dyskolh katastash. Qa elege kaneis, oti olh h mesogeiakh Eyrwph antimetwpizei to idio problhma. Sthn patrida mas h prospaqeia synexizetai. Mporei na ypoqesei kaneis para polla. Den einai wra, omws, na protrejoyme kai na eimaste kathgorhmatikoi sth diatypwsh opoiasdhpote qeshs. Ta symperasmata qa ta bgaloyme, afoy ejetasoyme ola ta stoixeia. Mexri twra, gnwrizete oti exoyn ginei syllhceis kai milw gia olh th fetinh periodo, thn kaloymenh ``qermh'' periodo, ayth twn pyrkagiwn. Stis pyrkagies poy jespasan tis teleytaies hmeres mporei na anaferei kaneis, metajy twn allwn kai th syllhch enos polith sthn perioxh ths Arkadias, enantion toy opoioy askhqhke diwjh apo ton eisaggelea, kai malista se baqmo kakoyrghmatos, gia emprhsmo me idiotelh skopo. Ola ayta qa ta antimetwpisei, bebaiws, h Dikaiosynh. Oi diwktikes arxes apo th dikh toys pleyra kataballoyn kaqe prospaqeia gia na entopisoyn, an yparxoyn, toys ypaitioys gi ayth thn tragikh katastash poy dhmioyrghqhke. Etsi exoyn ta pragmata mexri ayth thn wra. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas. STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia to qema twn pyrkagiwn, efoson blepei h kybernhsh oti ola ta sxedia, ta opoia exei kai oti h allagh poy ekane kai ebale thn Pyrosbestikh, mhpws qa allajei ta sxedia ths; Mhpws qa epanaferei toys dasopyrosbestes kai toys dasofylakes; REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti h ekdhlwsh twn pyrkagiwn den einai neo fainomeno sthn patrida mas. Kai otan alles yphresies eixan sxetikh armodiothta, pyrkagies ekdhlwnontan. Gnwrizete, epishs, oti fetos antimetwpizoyme ejairetika antijoes kairikes synqhkes. Exoyme isxyroys anemoys se mia paratetamenh periodo. Anemoi poy allazoyn kateyqynsh kai h allagh ayth ths kateyqynshs prokalei problhmata, oson afora thn antimetwpish twn pyrkagiwn. Eynoei tis anazwpyrwseis, thn ejaplwsh twn metwpwn ths pyrkagias. H prospaqeia thn opoia katebale h Politeia einai kalyterh, para pote, toso apo thn apoch toy ejoplismoy, oso kai apo th diaqesh anqrwpinwn dynamewn, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisoyme tis pyrkagies. Dystyxws, ta apotelesmata den mporei na einai apolytws qetika, otan exeis na antimetwpiseis tetoia anyperblhta empodia. Kata ta alla, den pisteyw oti eyqynetai to nomiko plaisio, poy chfisame kai me bash to opoio to Pyrosbestiko Swma analambanei tis armodiothtes, kata kyrio logo, gia thn antimetwpish twn pyrkagiwn. Isa-isa qewroyme oti opws ginetai kai stis alles xwres ths Eyrwphs, ayth einai h swsth politikh epilogh. STAMATOPOYLOS: Afoy oi anqrwpoi aytoi to lene ``den eimaste emeis gia na sbhsoyme tis pyrkagies sta dash''@ REPPAS: Qa moy epitrecete na kanw mia parathrhsh. Syxna qetete erwthseis, anaferontas lejeis h fraseis tis opoies exoyn xrhsimopoihsei diaforoi paragontes, kaqws anaptyssoyn tis apoceis toys, gia na apodeixqei meta oti ayto den antapokrinetai sthn alhqeia. Milhsate xqes gia ton k. Arsenh kai eipate pws dhlwse oti ``jhlwnetai'' h metarryqmish. Anazhthsa tis dhlwseis toy kai den diapistwsa poyqena, para to oti eseis ayto isxyristhkate xqes, na exei xrhsimopoihsei ayth th lejh. Kai sas rwthsa epi toytoy. Parakalw, loipon, mhn epanerxeste me ayto ton tropo. Diatypwste ena erwthma, ekfraste enan problhmatismo. Sas edwsa thn apanthsh kai th qesh ths kybernhshs. STAMATOPOYLOS: Eidate ton pyrosbesth xqes, akoysate tis dhlwseis poy ekane; REPPAS: Ayth einai wra eyqynhs. Prepei na sas pw, oti egw breqhka sthn Arkadia @lypoymai poy to lew- mexri tis 3 kai pleon to prwi, enw alloi paragontes oi opoioi anhkoyn politika sto komma ths Antipoliteyshs kai eleipan, paroysiasthkan molis xqes, eida na bgainoyn sta MME kai na kanoyn dhlwseis gia eyqynes ths kybernhshs, gia ameleia poy edeijan ta organa ths Politeias kai alla synafh. Einai wres eyqynhs. Den einai wra gia na antidikhsoyme kai na antiparateqoyme. Den yparxei tetoio pedio. Sas parakalw, loipon, mhn epixeireite mia prospaqeia poy kanoyme gia na antimetwpisoyme ena fainomeno, na th metatrecete, logw twn problhmatwn ta opoia dhmioyrgoyntai, se dikh sas prospaqeia kai epixeirhsh na plhjete thn kybernhsh. Giati to deytero den to petyxainete, alla kyriws -kai ayto einai poy exei shmasia- den bohqate etsi na antimetwpisoyme kai na lysoyme to problhma poy twra mas apasxolei: Na sbhsoyme tis fwties. STAMATOPOYLOS: Ti einai ayta poy lete; Egw na plhjw thn kybernhsh; Apo poy ki ws poy; REPPAS: Ma, den eipa oti mporeite na to kanete, lew oti aplws to epixeireite. STAMATOPOYLOS: Epta nekroys exoyme. Posoi prepei na kaoyn gia na katalabete oti apetyxan ta metra; REPPAS: Eseis apo ayto bgazete to sygkekrimeno symperasma. Lypoymaste giati exoyme thn apwleia sympolitwn mas. Prepei na pw, omws, oti fainomena diakindyneyshs ths zwhs sympolitwn mas eixame kai se alla metwpa kai sthn Arkadia. Prepei na sas pw xarakthristika oti orismenoi sympolites mas emforoyntai apo mia tetoia antilhch, den epiqymoyn na metakinhqoyn apo thn katoikia toys. Pisteyoyn oti etsi qa prostateysoyn ta perioysiaka stoixeia toys. Sebasth h antilhch toys, alla dhmioyrgei terastioys kindynoys gia th zwh toys. Prepei na sas pw oti ta astynomika organa katebalan, se kapoies periptwseis, terastia prospaqeia, me apotelesma na prokalesoyn kai swmatikes blabes se hlikiwmena atoma, prokeimenoy na ta apomakrynoyn apo tis esties toys. Ayto deixnei oti emforoyntai apo mia orismenh antilhch. Dystyxws, omws, exoyme qymata. Ayth einai h alhqeia kai lypoymaste gi ayto. Den prepei, omws, na bgazete politiko symperasma ej aytoy toy logoy. KAPPOS: Qelw na epanelqw sto qema twn pyrkagiwn. Ayto poy synagetai, pera apo thn apognwsh aytoy toy anqrwpoy kai apo tis epistoles stratiwtwn poy exoyn symmetasxei se aytes tis apostoles katasbeshs pyrkagiwn diapistwnetai pera apo ta sxedia, mia foberh elleich syntonismoy. Qa hqela to sxolio sas gi ayto kai se kati allo: Qewreite xrhsimo na metabainoyn stoys topoys twn pyrkagiwn kaq ylhn, filotimoi men, alla anarmodioi. Phgate eseis xqes, phge kai o k. Petsalnikos poy einai yfypoyrgos Paideias. Den mporw na katalabw ti soi syntonistiko rolo mporei na paijei enas ypoyrgos. REPPAS: Prwta ap ola, oi ypoyrgoi metabainontas ekei, den askoyn ayto to rolo ston opoio anaferqhkate. To rolo ayto ton exoyn ta armodia organa, oi epikefalhs toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos. Aplws, yparxei mia enhmerwsh -oyai kai alimono ean emeis eimaste aytoi poy qa kateyqynoyme tis epixeirhseis- epitopoy, mia epikoinwnia me toys topikoys paragontes, prokeimenoy na energopoihsoyme oles tis dynameis, wste kai aytes na symballoyn sthn antimetwpish toy problhmatos, bohqwntas sto ergo toys to Pyrosbestiko Swma kai toys andres toy. Mh bgazete ayto to symperasma. Prepei na sas pw oti otan den einai parontes ta melh kai oi alloi paragontes ths kybernhshs se tetoia metwpa askeitai kritikh gia thn apoysia toys, otan einai parontes askeitai kritikh gia thn paroysia toys. Dhladh ``mona-zyga'' h kybernhsh prepei na einai xamenh kata th dikh sas logikh. Ayto den mporw na to paradexqw. Sas diabebaiwnw oti den epibarynoyn oi kybernhtikoi paragontes to ergo twn synergeiwn poy epixeiroyn, antiqetws symballoyn me to diko toys tropo, apo th dikh toys pleyra gia thn kalyterh antimetwpish twn pyrkagiwn. KAPPOS: Ws pros tis kataggelies gia elleich syntonismoy ti apantate; REPPAS: Exoyme sygkekrimena apotelesmata apo ta opoia bgainei kapoio symperasma. Ayto to symperasma odhgei kapoioys sto na milhsoyn gia elleich syntonismoy. Pisteyoyme oti o syntonismos einai eparkhs. Asfalws, exoyme na antimetwpisoyme ejairetika antijoa kairika fainomena. Ta apotelesmata den mporei na einai apolytws qetika. Den mporoyme na petyxoyme to stoxo mas se pososto 100%. Stoxos mas einai prwta na diaswsoyme zwes, meta perioysies kai meta tis dasikes kai kalliergoymenes ektaseis. Antilambaneste pws den einai dynato na ta petyxoyme ola. KAPPOS: Otan, omws, yparxoyn kataggelies; REPPAS: Oi kataggelies ejetazontai, alla oi kataggelies ekfrazoyn tis apoceis toy kataggelontos. Den shmainei oti prepei na tis yioqeteite, poly perissotero otan den gnwrizete to qema. Giati eseis apo tis xiliades twn andrwn poy entassontai se ayth thn prospaqeia, dexeste ws swstes tis apoceis enos kai monon enos o opoios exei probei sthn opoia kataggelia. Qa elega, loipon, oti o kaqenas ekfrazei tis apoceis toys. Sebastes. Qa tis ajiologhsoyme kai qa bgaloyme ta symperasmata mas. Den qa tis agnohsoyme. Ayto, omws, den prepei na mas odhgei sto symperasma, oti ta pragmata exoyn etsi, opws ta anaferei kapoios poy diatypwnei tis apoceis toy. KAPPOS: Epeidh yparxei mia kataggelia oti anqrwpoi exoyn na fane treis hmeres kai oti oi stratiwtes trigyrnoysan sta nhsia xwris na toys kateyqynei kanenas. Ecaxnan gia tzipakia, gia pyrosbestika k.lp. Den einai mia kai dyo kataggelies. REPPAS: Ola ayta ejetazontai. Sas eipa sthn arxh oti perissotero apo kaqe allh fora fetos to kratos htan etoimo na antimetwpisei tetoia qemata. Alla, perissotero apo kaqe allh fora, breqhkame antimetwpoi se kairika fainomena ta opoia den exoyn prohgoymeno. BITALHS: Kai prin ligo, alla kai xqes to brady, sto radiofwno poy sas akoyga, ypainixqhkate gia fainomena emprhsmoy. Poies endeijeis exete; REPPAS: Eipa oti einai mia ypoqesh, thn opoia basima mporei na kanei kapoios. Otan ekdhlwnontai pyrkagies se diaforetika metwpa thn idia stigmh, mporei kapoios na ypoqesei oti to ``anqrwpino'' xeri edrase kai sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh. Ola ayta qa ta antimetwpisoyn oi armodies yphresies. Oi diwktikes arxes poy prepei na entopisoyn toys ypaitioys -an yparxoyn- kai ta dikastika organa ta opoia qa epilhfqoyn en synexeia. Hdh, gnwrizete poly kala -to eipa- oti exei askhqei diwjh enantion sympolith mas me sygkekrimenh kathgoria. Den gnwrizw ti qa apodeixqei. Alla, oloi, pleon, xwris na mporei kaneis na einai kathgorhmatikos -einai prowro kai aneyqyno ayto- mporoyn na ypoqesoyn oti metajy twn allwn einai kai aytos enas logos, mia aitia gia kapoies pyrkagies. ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Yparxei shmera ena dhmosieyma sthn efhmerida ``EQNOS'' gia thn epispeysh toy synedrioy toy PASOK, kata eji mhnes, qelw to sxolio sas gia ayto. Kai, epishs, qelw na mas peite gia th shmerinh syskech ths epikoinwniakhs omadas kai an syzhthqhke h eikona ths kybernhshs me dedomeno kai tis fwties. REPPAS: Oson afora to deytero qema h synergasia toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys stenoys synergates toy einai pagia, qa ginetai kaqe Paraskeyh prwi. Antikeimeno ths htan h epikeimenh episkech kybernhtikoy klimakioy ypo ton Prwqypoyrgo sth Qessalonikh. Den asxolhqhkame me otidhpote allo. Den syzhtoyme qemata ta opoia aforoyn armodiothta ypoyrgwn. Oson afora to prwto qema, den exei lhfqei opoiadhpote apofash. Gnwrizete oti ayto afora ena kommatiko zhthma. Den eimai armodios na apanthsw. Sas lew omws -kai prepei na epishmanqei ayto- oti to PASOK ta teleytaia xronia, ws ena komma poy leitoyrgei dhmokratika kai syllogika, se takta diasthmata -opws problepei to Katastatiko- organwnei ta Synedria toy kai ola einai epityxhmena. ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Logoi poy odhgoyn sthn epispeysh kata eji mhnes; REPPAS: Sas eipa oti den exei lhfqei tetoia apofash. Eseis qewreite dedomeno oti ayto qa ginei. Den yparxei tetoia apofash. KONTOPOYLOS: Thn allagh froyras toy kybernhtikoy ekproswpoy ths N.D. pws th sxoliazete; REPPAS: Th sxoliazw me poly megalh xara. Kai xairomai giati h politikh kerdise ena kalo dhmosiografo. O k. Royssopoylos einai gnwrimos kai filos. H filia kai h palia gnwrimia den jerw ean qa kanei to ergo kai twn dyo mas dyskolotero h eykolotero. O k. Royssopoylos einai o tetartos kata seira ekproswpos Typoy ths N.D. sth diarkeia ths dikhs moy qhteias, sta kaqhkonta poy kai twra askw, meta ton k. Maggina, ton k. Paylopoylo, ton Sphliwtopoylo, toys opoioys timw idiaiterws oloys. O k. Royssopoylos analambanei th skytalh. Nomizw oti ajizei na shmeiwsw pws o k. Royssopoylos einai Arkas. Prosqetw, epishs, oti kai o Boytshs, ekproswpos Typoy toy Synaspismoy, einai kai aytos Arkas. Ara, apo ta tessera kommata ths Boylhs, ta tria exoyn ekproswpoys ej Arkadias! KWSTANTHS: To Xrhmatisthrio ejakoloyqei pali, tis teleytaies hmeres, na akoloyqei fqinoysa poreia, poly xeiroterh apo o,ti proeklogika kai meteklogika. Skefteste na parete kapoia epipleon apotelesmatika metra gia na stamathsei ayth h poreia; REPPAS: Gia th leitoyrgia toy Xrhmatisthrioy miloyn ta organa toy Xrhmatisthrioy. O Proedros toy Xrhmatisthrioy exei probei se sxetikes anakoinwseis. H kybernhsh den einai diateqeimenh na emplakei se mia tetoia dhmosia syzhthsh. Ayto to opoio exei xreos na kanei kai to kanei sto akeraio einai na synexisei thn askhsh mias oikonomikhs politikhs poy odhgei sthn oikonomikh anaptyjh kai thn proodo ths xwras. Kai etsi na dhmioyrghsei ena qetiko periballon gia th leitoyrgia kai toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Emeis oi politikoi -to exw pei kat epanalhch- oso ligotero miloyme, toso pio qetikh yphresia prosferoyme sto Xrhmatisthrio kai se osoys ependyoyn se ayto. Ayto qa kanoyme kai sthn sygkekrimenh periptwsh. Kai qa moy epitrecete na pw oti den symmerizomaste thn prwtoboylia poy analambanoyn oloi ekeinoi oi paragontes, entos h ektos politikhs, na anaferontai syxna, se kaqe eykairia, sta toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Pisteyoyme oti prosferoyn arnhtikh yphresia. STAMATOPOYLOS: Eseis den asxoleiste me to Xrhmatisthrio. Ki eseis proswpika kai o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias kai alloi den legate gia to Xrhmatisthrio kai kanate ton kosmo na trexei pros to Xrhmatisthrio, me apotelesma na katastrafoyn; REPPAS: Ayta einai dika sas symperasmata. Qa ajize na sas ypenqymisw mia apanthsh poy edwse, sto plaisio ths synenteyjhs Typoy sth DEQ, o Prwqypoyrgos, erwtwmenos gia to Xrhmatisthrio. Na deite poso swsth einai h qesh poy ejefrase tote, qesh poy exei thn ajia ths kai shmera, exei diaxronikh ajia. Mhn anafereste, loipon, se ayto to qema me ayto ton tropo. Emeis, kaqe allo, para skandalologoyme h milame gia to Xrhmatisthrio, etsi wste na dhmioyrgoyme anhsyxia h sygxysh. Ayto poy kanoyme einai na askoyme oikonomikh politikh, h opoia empedwnei ena staqero oikonomiko, koinwniko kai politiko periballon, entos toy opoioy mporei ena Xrhmatisthrio na leitoyrghsei kai na anaptyxqei me poly eynoikoteroys oroys. STAMATOPOYLOS: To proeklogiko spot den to qymaste; REPPAS: Eseis qymaste oti ektos apo thn proeklogikh periodo, eginan kai oi ekloges tis opoies kerdise to PASOK; Kai ayto egine ligoys mhnes prin. STAMATOPOYLOS: Etsi toys parasyrate, jegelasate ton kosmo. REPPAS: Mhn kathgoreite toys Ellhnes polites oti den exoyn th dikh sas antilhch h to diko sas epipedo krishs kai etsi mporei na paraplanoyntai. Enw, eseis poy gnwrizete kalytera ta pragmata apo aytoys mporeite na eiste timhths kai na askeite thn kritikh sas me ayto ton tropo. Den symfwnoyme. KAPPOS: Sta katexomena sthn Kypro yparxei mia idiotyph katastash. Yparxei entash kai to Anwtato Politiko-Stratiwtiko Symboylio sthn Agkyra milaei gia katastash ektakths anagkhs. Kati antistoixo leei kai o Ntenktas. Exei h kybernhsh kapoies perissoteres plhrofories se ti afora ayth h katastash ektakths anagkhs kai, en pash periptwsei, pws prepei na antidrasei ean yparxei tetoia katastash; REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti h dikh mas antimetwpish toy qematos den mporei para na afora kyriws kai apokleistika thn prowqhsh lyshs toy eqnikoy qematos ths Kyproy. Oson afora thn krish sto eswteriko twn katexomenwn, to stoixeio ths krishs einai symfyto, synyparxei me thn idia th fysh toy kaqestwtos. Exoyme ena paranomo katoxiko kaqestws. Einai dynato na ajiologoyme ena tetoio kaqestws, ean dokimazetai apo krish megalyterh h mikroterh; Einai ena paranomo katoxiko kaqestws. H de Toyrkia, teleytaia, mesw twn ajiwmatoyxwn ths, dinei ena stigma sth dieqnh koinothta, oti den diaqetei qesmikh sygkrothsh, h opoia einai analogh twn dhmokratikwn xwrwn ths Eyrwphs. Otan bgainei to Anwtato Stratiwtiko Symboylio ths Toyrkias kai parembainei sta politika drwmena me tetoio tropo, ypodeiknyontas -opws gnwrizete- akoma kai ston Proedro ths toyrkikhs dhmokratias, pws prepei na prajei se sygkekrimenh periptwsh, tote mporoyme na milhsoyme gia elleimma dhmokratias. Ayto, loipon, to stoixeio, to opoio eseis onomazete krish, den einai tipota allo para h ``fysiologia'' enos paranomoy katoxikoy kaqestwtos. KWNSTANTINIDHS: Pws sxoliazete thn apofash gia adelfopoihshs ths katexomenhs Morfoy me ta Skopia; Ayto den apotelei emmesh anagnwrish toy ceydokratoys apo ta Skopia; REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti oi Dhmotikes Arxes toy Tetobo kai ths katexomenhs polhs Morfoy phran ayth thn prwtoboylia, h opoia exei sygkekrimenh epidiwjh. Den einai h prwth fora poy to paranomo kaqestws epixeirei mia diejodo, prokeimenoy na epityxei shmeia sthrijhs kai anagnwrishs sth dieqnh koinothta. Oles aytes oi prospaqeies den qa exoyn apotelesma. H dieqnhs koinothta, o OHE, oi megales xwres me sympagh kai apofasistiko tropo, sth qesh poy exoyn diatypwsei, mesw twn organwn toys, oson afora thn Kypro, paramenoyn ametakinhtoi. Kai, epishs, gnwrizete pws den mporei na tyxei anagnwrishs opoiadhpote tetoia prospaqeia h na parei enan xarakthra epishmo kai egkyro. H kybernhsh mas qa dwsei to mhnyma poy prepei na dwsei stoys katallhloys apodektes. Sas eyxaristw poly Kalo Sabbatokyriako. 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