Greek Government Press Briefing, 00-08-22

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 22 Aygoystoy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Na sas enhmerwsw, symplhrwmatika, gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy ayths ths ebdomadas.

O Prwqypoyrgos, shmera, stis 9.45 to prwi, dexqhke thn Proedro ths Organwtikhs Epitrophs toy 2004 k. Gianna Aggelopoyloy, me thn opoia eixe synergasia enocei ths ayrianhs diypoyrgikhs syskechs.

Ayrio to prwi, stis 11.30, qa dexqei ton Proedro ths Boylhs Apostolo Kaklamanh me ton opoio qa exei synergasia.

H ellhnikh Kybernhsh dia toy Prwqypoyrgoy apesteile syllyphthrio thlegrafhma ston Proedro ths Rwsias Blantimir Poytin gia to tragiko naytiko atyxhma.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Proekyce kati kainoyrgio, giati synanthqhke me thn k. Aggelopoyloy;

REPPAS: Tipota kainoyrgio. H k. Aggelopoyloy briskotan ektos Aqhnwn. Xqes, to apogeyma eixan thlefwnikh epikoinwnia kai apofasisan na synanthqoyn shmera to prwi, enocei ths ayrianhs diypoyrgikhs syskechs.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: O Mhtropoliths Kefallhnias dhlwse xqes oti to qema twn taytothtwn qa synthrhqei ews tis Dhmotikes kai eqnikes ekloges. Poio einai to sxolio sas;

REPPAS: Den qelw na sxoliasw tis apoceis poy ekfrazoyn diaforoi ierarxes. Einai @to pisteyw apolyta ayto- proswpikes apoceis poy den ekfrazoyn thn Ekklhsia ws swma, den ekfrazoyn -qa elega- kai ta organa ths Ierarxias. Kata ta alla, pisteyw oti tetoioy eidoys apoceis kaqe allo para einai symbates me to rolo kai thn apostolh ths ellhnikhs Ekklhsias.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Kata th diarkeia ths shmerinhs apogeymatinhs synanthshs toy Prwqypoyrgoy me thn hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Paideias, qa hqela na sas rwthsw ean qa zhthqei h symfwnh h oxi gnwmh toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia thn ejairesh toy maqhmatos twn Qrhskeytikwn apo thn ejetastea ylh.

REPPAS: Sth synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy poy, opws gnwrizete, qa ginei thn Pempth qa syzhthqoyn ta qemata ths Paideias. Enocei ayths ths synedriashs o Prwqypoyrgos qa synergastei me thn hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Paideias. Sto plaisio ayths ths synergasias qa ejetasoyn to synolo twn qematwn poy empiptoyn sthn armodiothta toy Ypoyrgeioy Paideias. Ena qema einai kai ayto. To sxetiko, dhladh, me ta maqhmata sta opoia qa diagwnizontai oi maqhtes. H qesh ths kybernhshs qa diatypwqei me apolyth safhneia kai leptomerws sthn apanthtikh epistolh poy qa steilei o Ypoyrgos Paideias pros ton Arxiepiskopo. Den exw na prosqesw tipota allo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, sas eixa rwthsei kai prin apo ena mhna, kai moy eixate pei oti den prokeitai na ginei kamia ayjhsh sta timologia twn DEKO. Kai jafnika, twra, poy efyge o kosmos stis diakopes gyrise kai brhke ta eisithria 30% panw, ta thlefwna to idio kai apo o,ti lene problepontai kai alles ayjhseis@

REPPAS: Mporeite na moy peite poios htan o dialogos kai poia htan h apanthsh moy sth dikh sas erwthsh;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sas eixa rwthsei an qa ayjhqoyn ta timologia twn DEKO kai moy eipate oti den problepetai nea forologia.

REPPAS: Ta forologika metra ths kybernhshs, gnwrizete poly kala, perilambanontai sto forologiko nomosxedio kai den problepetai na yparxei opoiadhpote nea forologia. Oson afora ta timologia twn DEKO gnwrizete oti h dioikhsh kaqe Anwnymhs Etaireias lambanei tis sxetikes apofaseis. Den einai kati poy empiptei sth xarajh ths kybernhtikhs politikhs me tosh ejeidikeysh gia kaqe Organismo. Omws, epeidh anaferqhkate sthn timh twn eisithriwn twn astikwn meswn metaforas prepei na sas pw oti oi astikes sygkoinwnies leitoyrgoyn me paqhtiko, giati prosferoyn koinwniko ergo. Ta mesa mazikhs metaforas xrhsimopoioyn, kata kyrio logo, oi ergazomenoi kai to eisithrio paramenei se xamhla epipeda. Asfalws, pantote lambanetai ypoch h leitoyrgia twn epixeirhsewn aytwn. Na mh leitoyrgoyn, dhladh, me ypermetro kostos kai na dhmioyrgoyntai terastia elleimmata, logw twn xamhlwn timologiwn twn prosferomenwn yphresiwn. Apo thn allh, bebaiws, qa prepei na doyme tis epiptwseis poy exei h timologhsh twn yphresiwn poy prosferoyn oi epixeirhseis aytes afenos ston plhqwrismo kai afeteroy sto poso ephreazetai to eisodhma twn politwn poy xrhsimopoioyn aytes tis yphresies. Mhn mpoyme, loipon, se syzhthsh gia ta timologia mias epixeirhshs h ths kaqe epixeirhshs jexwrista.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati, k. Ypoyrge, oi dioikhseis aytes den einai diorismenes apo thn kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala poio einai to kaqestws poy diepei th leitoyrgia Organismwn toy legomenoy dhmosioy tomea. Alles einai sto Xrhmatisthrio, alles den einai. Oi dioikhseis toys, asfalws, diorizontai apo thn kybernhsh, mesw ths gnwsths diadikasias, elegxomenhs dhladh apo thn armodia Epitroph ths Boylhs. Einai gnwsta ayta ta pragmata, mhn epanerxomaste.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, einai anejelegktoi aytoi, kanoyn o,ti qeloyn;

REPPAS: Kaneis den eipe tetoio pragma. H apanthsh moy htan safhs kai leptomerhs kai prepei na sas ikanopoiei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Lete oti h kybernhsh den exei kamia sxesh me toys Organismoys.

REPPAS: Ayto einai kati poy to lete eseis. Den to eipa egw.

BIDALH: Pws skeptetai h kybernhsh na antimetwpisei th stadiakh epideinwsh twn sxesewn ths me thn Albania, opws toylaxiston prokyptei kai apo shmerina dhmosieymata;

REPPAS: Se ti anafereste; Genikws h exete kati sygkekrimeno;

BIDALH: Yparxei ena dhmosieyma sthn ``Kaqhmerinh'', isws kai se alles efhmerides, oti pali dyo ellhnikes etaireies antimetwpizoyn problhma, para tis symfwnies poy exoyn kanei.

REPPAS: Epiqymoyme kales sxeseis me thn Albania. Emeis exoyme epideijei synepeia kai qetikh stash sta qemata poy aforoyn tis ellhnoalbanikes sxeseis. To idio prepei na kanei kai h Albania apo th dikh ths pleyra. Giati oi kales sxeseis apaitoyn oles oi pleyres na exoyn to idio pneyma katanohshs, synergasias kai filikhs proseggishs gia epilysh twn opoiwn problhmatwn. Einai kati poy den exei epideixqei apo thn pleyra ths Albanias se polles periptwseis. Gia to sygkekrimeno qema sto opoio anafereste prepei na pw oti me bash to nomo gia ta petrelaioeidh poy chfisthke prin apo ena xrono sthn Albania, doqhke adeia se ellhnikes epixeirhseis gia th dhmioyrgia egkatastasewn sthn perioxh toy Dyrraxioy. Egine prospaqeia apo yphresies toy albanikoy kratoys na anaklhqei h adeia ayth. Oi ergasies, omws, gia th dhmioyrgia aytwn twn newn egkatastasewn synexizontai, qa oloklhrwqoyn kai qa leitoyrghsoyn kanonika. Elpizoyme na mhn parathrhqoyn alla empodia. Allwste, symfwna me to nomo toy geitonikoy kratoys, oi ergasies poy ginontai einai apolyta nomimes. Einai pros to symferon oxi monon twn ellhnikwn epixeirhsewn, alla kai toy albanikoy kratoys. Ayto den prepei na paragnwristei.

KWSTANTHS: Pws sxoliazete mia erwthsh poy kateqesan treis boyleytes toy PASOK, o k. Krhtikos, h k. Katselh kai o k. Papahlias poy lene oti oi idiwtikopoihseis twn DEKO den synadoyn sto sosialismo kai den yparxoyn se kanena kybernhtiko programma;

REPPAS: H politikh ths kybernhshs einai gnwsth. Eixe ejaggelqei proeklogika ston ellhniko lao kai etyxe ths egkrishs toy me thn chfo toy. Oi boyleytes exoyn aperioristo to dikaiwma na ekfrazoyn eleyqera tis apoceis toys. Ayto poy exei shmasia einai oti h kybernhsh, h opoia sthrizetai sthn koinoboyleytikh pleiochfia, synexizei to ergo ths, efarmozei to programma poy ejhggeile ston ellhniko lao. Thn kybernhsh th sthrizoyn oloi oi boyleytes poy eklexthkan stis prosfates ekloges me th shmaia toy PASOK.

KAPPOS: Einai dynaton @kai milaw gia thn Albania- na krinontai oi dimereis sxeseis twn dyo xwrwn apo ta kaqara epixeirhmatika symferonta dyo etaireiwn;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizete, profanws, to prwtoselido dhmosieyma ths ``Kaqhmerinhs''. Miloyme gia ta Ellhnika Petrelaia. Den einai mia opoiadhpote idiwtikh epixeirhsh. Miloyme gia enan Omilo, o opoios anaptyssei drasthriothta se ena neyralgiko tomea. Prepei na pw oti sto dhmosieyma anaferontai kai alla paradeigmata, xwris na shmainei oti symmerizomai apolytws thn analysh poy kanei o dhmosiografos sto sxetiko dhmosieyma. Opws, fer` eipein, giathn oristikh apoxwrhsh twn ellhnikwn stratiwtikwn dynamewn ths xwras mas apo thn Albania. Alla, epeidh akribws, thn teleytaia periodo, diatypwnontai apoceis apo politikoys paragontes ths Albanias gia thn Ellada, me tropo poy deixnei oti kapoioi den epiqymoyn thn peraiterw beltiwsh twn ellhnoalbanikwn sxesewn, ekrina skopimo na kanw aytes tis epishmanseis.

KAPPOS: H kybernhsh prowqei kapoia metra gia ton periorismo twn legomenwn oligomelwn sygkentrwsewn;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti to qema ayto exei apasxolhsei, kata kairoys, kybernhtika organa. Oi synarmodioi ypoyrgoi antallassoyn apoceis kai syzhtoyn ton tropo me ton opoio prepei na antimetwpisoyme ena fainomeno poy ekdhlwnetai epi polla xronia kai sthn Ellada. Dhmioyrgei para polla problhmata gia thn omalh leitoyrgia sthn kaqhmerinh zwh twn politwn, sth leitoyrgia twn epixeirhsewn kai twn epaggelmatiwn. Mikres omades diadhlwtwn katalambanoyn to odostrwma, parempodizoyn thn kinhsh twn sympolitwn toys kai thn askhsh twn dikwn toys dikaiwmatwn. To fainomeno ayto prepei na antimetwpistei. Ayth thn wra den exw tipota allo na anakoinwsw.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Twra to diapistwsate ayto;

REPPAS: Exoyme syzhthsei edw polles fores gia to qema ayto kai aporw pws den to qymaste.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai palia den qymaste poioi ekleinan toys dromoys;

REPPAS: Exoyme isxyrotath mnhmh kai gnwrizoyme oti kybername epi para polla xronia doja tw Qew kai ``tw law'' kai etsi ayta ta qemata emeis ek twn pragmatwn kaloymaste na ta antimetwpisoyme, giati emeis exoyme thn eyqynh ths diakybernhshs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Apagoreyete, dhladh, tis sygkentrwseis.

REPPAS: Ayto einai ena symperasma poy bgazete eseis, skeptomenos me tropo ayqaireto. Gnwrizete oti h askhsh twn dhmokratikwn dikaiwmatwn twn politwn sthn Ellada brisketai se poly ychlo epipedo. Mhn prospaqeite na dwsete thn entypwsh oti epiballontai periorismoi. Isa-isa, polloi mas kathgoroyn oti eimaste, pera apo to pneyma kai to gramma toy Syntagmatos kai twn nomwn, anektikoi se drasthriothtes poy ek twn pragmatwn parakwlyoyn to ergo poly megaloy ariqmoy politwn, koinwnikwn omadwn kai epaggelmatiwn. Ta gnwrizete ola ayta, giati ta exoyme syzhthsei kat` epanalhch.

KAPPOS: Epeidh, milhsate gia syntagmatika dikaiwmata poios krinei pia oti h sygkentrwsh einai oligomelhs@

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, ayth thn wra, miloyme gia ena qema poy syzhteitai kai etsi den eimai se qesh na probw se anakoinwseis. To qema ayto apasxolei toys polites, apasxolei ki esas, eite briskeste sth mia pleyra, eite sthn allh. Einai kati poy prepei na apasxolhsei kai apasxolei kai ta kybernhtika organa.

KOYI@N: Yphrje kapoia proodos sto qema ths episkechs toy k. Xrysoxoidh stis HPA; Apo o,ti fainetai syzhthqhke kai sth synanthsh toy me ton k. Papandreoy kai sth synanthsh toy me ton k. Mperns.

REPPAS: Paramenw se ayta poy eipa xqes. Den yparxei opoiadhpote ejelijh. Anamenoyme thn telikh qesh apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs twn HPA gia to poios kai pote qa einai aytos poy qa thn ekproswphsei sthn ypografh aytoy toy mnhmonioy katanohshs gia ta sygkekrimena qemata. Emeis exoyme diatypwsei th qesh mas. To oysiastiko periexomeno toy keimenoy aytoy, mporei na pei kaneis, oti exei symfwnhqei. Den yparxei problhma ep` aytoy. Apomenoyn kapoies typikes diadikastikes leptomereies poy prepei na ryqmistoyn gia na ypografei to keimeno ayto.

BOYLGARHS: Qa hqela na epanelqw ligo sta qemata Paideias. Ektos apo to maqhma twn Qrhskeytikwn, sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio qa syzhthqei kai h eisagwgh ths toyrkikhs glwssas se kapoies perioxes h gia kapoies@

REPPAS: To prwto qema poy qesate den qa syzhthqei sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Qa apasxolhsei, asfalws, ton Prwqypoyrgo kai ton armodio Ypoyrgo sth synergasia poy qa exoyn, opoy kai qa lhfqoyn oi telikes apofaseis. Oson afora, to deytero qema poy qesate @kai me ton tropo malista poy to qesate deixnete oti peripoy dexeste oti kati tetoio epikeitai- sas lew oti den antimetwpizetai tetoio qema.

BOYLGARHS: Sas to lew ayto, giati dieyqynths sxoleioy sth Drapetswna eklhqh apo ton antidhmarxo ths polhs, armodio sta qemata Paideias, kai toy systhse daskalo toyrkikhs gia paidia@

REPPAS: Kai giati prepei h kybernhsh na apanthsei gi` ayto; Giati, den apeyqyneste ston armodio paragonta ths Topikhs Aytodioikhshs. Metaferoyme armodiothtes sthn T.A. kai apo thn allh mas kathgoreite giati den elegxoyme ton tropo me ton opoio askoyn tis armodiothtes toys oi arxontes ths T.A.

BOYLGARHS: Nai, alla den yparxei kapoia synergasia toy Ypoyrgeioy me toys topikoys arxontes;

REPPAS: H ekpaideytikh politikh einai eqnikh politikh, xarassetai apo to Ypoyrgeio Paideias kai oydeis mporei na thn agnohsei h na xarajei dikh toy, diaforetikh ekpaideytikh politikh. Einai safestato ayto.

Eyxaristw poly.

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