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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 17 Ioylioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

O Prwqypoyrgos qa synergastei, se ligh wra, me to Synhgoro toy Polith k. Diamantoyro. Stis 2.00 qa dexqei to Dioikhth ths Eqnikhs Trapezas k. Karatza. Argotera, stis 2.30 qa proedreysei se syskech, h opoia ginetai enocei ths ayrianhs episkechs toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Boylgaria. H epistrofh qa ginei ayqhmeron. To apogeyma, stis 7.30, qa dexqei thn ypoyrgo Eswterikwn Basw Papandreoy, me thn opoia qa exei synergasia, enocei ths synedriashs toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, me qemata armodiothtas ths ypoyrgoy, thn erxomenh Paraskeyh.

Ayrio, opws gnwrizete, kybernhtiko klimakio, ypo ton Prwqypoyrgo, qa episkefqei th Boylgaria (Filippoypolh).

Thn Tetarth to prwi, stis 10.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias. Einai taktikh h epikoinwnia ayth. Exei kaqierwqei, pleon, mia fora to mhna, na episkeptetai ton Proedro ths Dhmokratia kai na ton enhmerwnei gia tis eswterikes kai ejwterikes ejelijeis. Argotera, stis 12.30, qa exei synergasia me ton ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs Mixalh Staqopoylo. To meshmeri, sth 1.30, qa dexqei to Dioikhtiko Symboylio ths etaireias poy proetoimazei toy Olympiakoys Agwnes toy 2004, me thn taktikh synqesh toy, ta pente melh, dhladh, toy D.S. To apogeyma, stis 7, se kentriko jenodoxeio, qa apeyqynqei se stelexh toy Kinhmatos, ta opoia exoyn analabei to ergo proetoimasias twn qematikwn syndiaskecewn, tis opoies prokeitai na organwsei, thn erxomenh periodo, to Kinhma. H drasthriothta ayth gnwrizete oti eixe programmatistei gia thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, alla anablhqhke kai qa ginei meqayrio.

Thn Pempth stis 12.00 to meshmeri, qa synanthqei me ton ypoyrgo Emporikhs Naytilias Xrhsto Papoytsh. To meshmeri, sth 1, qa proedreysei se syskech, me th symmetoxh synarmodiwn ypoyrgwn kai allwn paragontwn, me antikeimeno thn ektimhsh ths katastashs poy dhmioyrghqhke meta tis prosfates pyrkagies kai thn ejetash twn qematwn, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisoyme ta problhmata kai tis zhmies poy exoyn proklhqei.

Thn Paraskeyh, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, stis 10 to prwi, me antikeimeno thn politikh sth Dhmosia Dioikhsh. Meta to peras ths synedriashs, qa dexqei to gnwsto skhnoqeth Mixalh Kakogiannh, o opoios opws gnwrizete exei teqei epikefalhs toy qesmoy ths Politistikhs Olympiadas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Oi protaseis poy h kybernhsh epejergasthke sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph, anaforika me tis ergasiakes sxeseis, einai oi telikes protaseis, me tis opoies qa proselqei sto dialogo h prokeitai na tis epejergastei peraiterw, wspoy na oloklhrwqei h telikh protash;

REPPAS: Einai orqotero na qesoyme, kat arxas, ton kentriko stoxo, ayton poy prepei na epityxoyme. Aytos o stoxos einai h dhmioyrgia xiliadwn newn qesewn ergasias. Epeidh akribws to megalo problhma ths anergias mas apasxolei idiaiterws, o skopos poy prepei na epityxoyme einai koinos. Gi ayto apaiteitai h synergasia olwn mas, ths kybernhshs, toy kratoys, twn ergazomenwn kai twn epixeirhmatiwn. Ara, ayto to opoio proexei einai na petyxoyme to stoxo. O stoxos einai h dhmioyrgia qesewn apasxolhshs. H kybernhsh exei ejaggeilei proeklogika thn prospaqeia poy qa kanei, ayth thn periodo, prokeimenoy na dhmioyrghsoyme 300.000 nees qeseis apasxolhshs. Paramenoyme se ayth th desmeysh. Gia na epityxoyme, bebaiws, ayto to stoxo xreiazetai h synergeia olwn twn paragontwn. Apo thn pleyra toy, to kratos, h kybernhsh qa labei sxetikes apofaseis. Qa prepei na antimetwpisei, fer` eipein, grafeiokratika empodia poy yparxoyn, oson afora tis ependyseis, mesw twn opoiwn dhmioyrgoyntai nees qeseis apasxolhshs. Qa analabei ena meros toy kostoys ergasias, me th meiwsh twn ergodotikwn eisforwn, giati exoyme pei oti to kostos ergasias sthn Ellada fainetai oti einai ychlo. Kai ayto, antilambaneste, plhttei thn politikh apasxolhshs, se kairoys opoy o antagwnismos einai ojytatos. To idio qa prepei na kanoyn oi epixeirhmaties apo th dikh toys pleyra, alla kai oi ergazomenoi. Ayto to opoio proexei einai kaqe pleyra na proselqei se ayton ton koinwniko dialogo, proteinontas politikes kai metra, ta opoia mporoyn na odhghsoyn sthn epiteyjh toy stoxoy, th dhmioyrgia newn qesewn apasxolhshs. O dialogos aytos mporei na jekinhsei sto telos aytoy toy mhna, meta apo prosklhsh toy armodioy ypoyrgoy Ergasias. Pisteyoyme oti qa einai kalopistos, oysiastikos, gonimos kai apotelesmatikos aytos o dialogos. Nomizw oti, efoson kaqenas proserxetai me diaqesh na symballei sthn epiteyjh aytoy toy stoxoy, ola ta alla fainontai poly pio eykola. Den qa prepei apo thn arxh, prin kan jekinhsei o dialogos aytos, na antallassontai me th morfh ``pyrotexnhmatwn'' apoceis kai isxyrismoi poy dynamitizoyn thn enarjh ayths ths prospaqeias. Qa prepei h prospaqeia na jekinhsei kai na ejelixqei ws koinh prospaqeia gia na epityxoyme to stoxo poy einai koinos.

MIXAHL: Me to paketo twn protasewn poy etoimase h Kybernhtikh Epitroph fainetai mia sygkekrimenh apoch. Pws blepei h kybernhsh na patassetai h na periorizetai, an qelete, h anergia kai na dhmioyrgoyntai nees qeseis ergasias. Thn idia wra, omws, oi ergazomenoi lene oti den mporoyn na dexqoyn ayto to pragma kai proteinoyn ena diko toys plaisio. O k. Polyzwgopoylos to periegrace sta genika toy shmeia kai shmera ejeidikeyetai apo th GSEE. Eiste diateqeimenoi, protaseis poy qa teqoyn sto trapezi apo thn pleyra twn ergazomenwn na tis dexqeite; Giati, opws paroysiasthke, dikaiws kata thn ektimhsh moy, apo thn pleyra twn ergazomenwn lene oti den mporoyn na to dexqoyn.

REPPAS: Apanthsa hdh se ayto kai shmera, alla kai tis prohgoymenes hmeres, otan teqhkan analoges erwthseis. Epanalambanw, oti koinos stoxos einai h dhmioyrgia newn qesewn apasxolhshs. Opoia protash, opoia proseggish, opoia qewrhsh twn pragmatwn odhgei sthn epiteyjh aytoy toy stoxoy, asfalws, mas briskei symfwnoys. Qa syzhthsoyme ta qemata, ta opoia emeis, kat` arxas, entopisame oti mporei na apotelesoyn stoixeia enos tetoioy dialogoy, alla bebaiws stoxos einai h ayjhsh ths apasxolhshs sthn patrida mas. H symbolh sthn epiteyjh toy stoxoy aytoy prepei na einai koinh. Qa akoysoyme, loipon, proseggiseis oi opoies odhgoyn se ayto to stoxo. Epanalambanw, proseggiseis poy odhgoyn se ayto to stoxo. Giati, h epanalhch stereotypwn apocewn h epixeirhmatwn, poy opws exei apodeijei h mexri twra empeiria, oxi mono den dhmioyrgoyn qeseis apasxolhshs, alla antiqetws meiwnoyn ton ariqmo twn apasxoloymenwn, qa prepei na mas exoyn didajei polla. Qa prepei, loipon, na eimaste oloi to idio ypeyqynoi, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisoyme ena megalo problhma, to problhma ths anergias sthn patrida mas.

MIXAHL: Einai stereotypo h kaqierwsh 35wroy poy zhta h GSEE kai gia to opoio sas askeitai kritikh apo thn antipoliteysh, apo merida ths antipoliteyshs kai giati den to perilabate stis protaseis sas pros syzhthsh;

REPPAS: Prwta ap ola o idios o Prwqypoyrgos, edw kai arketo kairo, exei pei oti einai ena qema, to opoio apasxolei thn kybernhsh. To qema twn 35 wrwn ergasias, asfalws, einai kai sth dikh mas skech. Einai ena stoixeio ths dikhs mas politikhs. Qa prepei na proseggisoyme ayto to idiaitero qema, me gnwmona to symferon ths oikonomias, to symferon twn epixeirhsewn kai twn ergazomenwn, doqentos oti den prepei na yponomeysoyme, mesw opoiasdhpote proseggishs ston tomea ayto, thn antagwnistikothta ths eqnikhs oikonomias. Gnwrizete, oti einai alla ta megeqh ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, se sxesh me ta megeqh twn epixeirhsewn allwn megalwn aneptygmenwn xwrwn, opws, p.x. h Gallia. Para tayta, epanalambanw, eimaste anoiktoi se proseggiseis oi opoies odhgoyn sth dhmioyrgia newn qesewn apasxolhshs. Perimenoyme na akoysoyme tetoies apoceis, gia na diasfalisoyme, etsi thn koinwnikh synoxh, ta dikaiwmata twn ergazomenwn. Alla, bebaiws, prepei na beltiwsoyme th zwh olwn twn politwn. Idiws, na antimetwpisoyme ta problhmata aytwn poy shmera einai anergoi, giati etsi ejyphreteitai apolytws kai plhrws o skopos perifroyrhshs ths koinwnikhs synoxhs.

BITALHS: Eipate oti sto telos toy mhna qa apeyqynqei apo ton armodio ypoyrgo prosklhsh gia na jekinhsei o dialogos gia ta ergasiaka. Sas apasxolei h diaforetikh proseggish poy yparxei sto qema kai stoys kolpoys ths kybernhshs; Sas ypenqymizw kapoies epifylajeis poy exoyn ekfrastei kai sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph kai epishmws kai apo ton ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynas kai apo thn ypoyrgo Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs.

REPPAS: Prwta ap ola, mhn eiste toso kathgorhmatikoi, giati eimai parwn se aytes tis synedriaseis kai exw th dynatothta na gnwrizw apo ``prwto xeri'', ean yparxoyn apoceis oi opoies einai taytoshmes h apoklinoyses. Sas lew oti einai sygklinoyses ews taytoshmes oi apoceis poy diatypwnontai kai gi ayto to qema. Oloi oi koryfaioi ypoyrgoi symmetexoyn sta kybernhtika kai kommatika organa opoy syzhtoyntai ta poly shmantika ayta qemata kai oi apoceis, oi opoies diatypwnontai, epidiwkoyn ton idio skopo. Kai qa elega oti einai apoceis poy kinoyntai apolytws sthn idia kateyqynsh, einai omorropes. Ara, loipon, den dikaiologeitai, einai yperbolh ayth h entypwsh, poy teinei na dhmioyrghqei oti yparxei apoklish h diaforetikh proseggish epi twn qematwn. Den symbainei ayto.

MOYRTZHS: Oi kyriakatikoi TIMES toy Londinoy egracan oti klimakio ths Skotlant Giarnt einai sth Qessalonikh, prokeimenoy na entopisei toys dolofonoys toy Stefen Sonters. Exete kapoio sxolio;

REPPAS: Ayto den antapokrinetai sthn alhqeia. Pragmati, klimakio ths bretanikhs yphresias einai sthn Ellada, paramenei sthn Ellada. Exoyme poly kalh synergasia kai ayto einai mia apodeijh, toy poso ki emeis exoyme isxyrh boylhsh kai prospaqoyme na antimetwpisoyme ena megalo problhma poy apasxolei th xwra mas ta teleytaia xronia, to problhma ths tromokratias. Den antapokrinontai sthn alhqeia osa legontai h grafontai peri sygkekrimenoy ariqmoy ypoptwn h peri entopismoy toys se orismenes perioxes ths Elladas. Ayto to opoio antapokrinetai sthn alhqeia einai oti h synergasia metajy twn yphresiwn twn dyo xwrwn ejelissetai se poly kalo epipedo. Makari, na einai kai apotelesmatikh, na exoyme, dhladh, sthn prajh pleon xeiropiasta apotelesmata.

MOYRTZHS: Yparxei, opws egrafh, antipalothta metajy toy Genikoy Grammatea toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy Swkrath Kosmidh kai ths Basws Papandreoy, se sxesh me thn katastrathghsh toy nomoy Peponh, gia tis proslhceis;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti o nomos 2190/1994 einai ek twn poly shmantikwn nomwn poy exei chfisei h ellhnikh Boylh, me prwtoboylia Kybernhshs toy PASOK. Sto nomo ayto paramenoyme. Antimetwpizoyme, ws kybernhsh, qemata poy exoyn sxesh me th syntomoterh, apotelesmatikoterh, leitoyrgikoterh ejetash twn qematwn sto kefalaio ths proslhchs proswpikoy gia to dhmosio kai ton eyrytero dhmosio tomea. O nomos aytos den allazei. To plaisio ayto, pisteyoyme oti einai poly shmantiko kai paramenei arrages. Apo kei kai pera, den yparxei opoiadhpote diaforetikh proseggish. Oi anqrwpoi poy asxoloyntai me ta qemata ayta, polles fores, prepei na sas pw, briskontai antimetwpoi me kaqysterhseis, oi opoies prokyptoyn kata thn efarmogh toy nomoy. Ara, loipon, den prokeitai na allajei o nomos. Ayto poy prepei na kanoyme einai na antimetwpisoyme tis synepeies poy dhmioyrgoyntai, oson afora thn kaqysterhsh, kyriws, kata thn efarmogh toy nomoy. Tipota allo. O nomos aytos ejasfalizei antikeimenikothta, ajiokratia, diafaneia kai gi ayto akribws qa ton perifroyrhsoyme, ws korh ofqalmoy.

ALEJAKH: To Sabbato diabasame mia synenteyjh toy Giwrgoy Papandreoy se mia efhmerida, poy diatypwne thn apoch nai se dialogo ypo oroys me thn Toyrkia kai xarakthrize ton Ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynas kontofqalmo, thn politikh mallon poy yposthrize kontofqalmh. Pws eisprattetai ayto apo thn kybernhsh; Dhladh, o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn na xarakthrizei ton Ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynas kontofqalmo kai malista dhmosiws, mesa apo mia synenteyjh;

REPPAS: Prepei na rwthsete thn efhmerida. H efhmerida edwse ayto to xarakthrismo ston Ypoyrgo Amynas. Den edwse tetoio xarakthrismo o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn. Poyqena den eipe kati tetoio. O Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, apantwntas sth sygkekrimenh erwthsh gia to qema ayto @kai to enqymoymai arketa kala ayto to apospasma ths apanthshs toy- peripoy epi lejei anefere, oti pragmatika einai kontofqalmh h proseggish gia to pagwma twn sxesewn me thn Toyrkia twra, kaqws exoyme se ejelijh tis synomilies sth Geneyh kai kaqws exoyme mprosta mas pros antimetwpish thn etairikh sxesh E.E.-Toyrkias. Den apedwse opoiondhpote allo xarakthrismo se proswpa h stelexh. Gnwrizete poly kala oti o k. Papandreoy kai o k. Tsoxatzopoylos symmetexoyn kai oi dyo se ola ta koryfaia kommatika kai kybernhtika organa. Gnwrizete, epishs, oti prosfata to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio syzhthse qemata ejwterikhs politikhs kai katelhje se ena plaisio ejwterikhs politikhs, me bash sygkekrimenoys kanones kai arxes. Ayto poy akoloyqoyme. Einai symfwnoi, loipon, oi dyo ypoyrgoi kai krinw yperbolika kai ektos pragmatikothtas osa legontai h grafontai gia diastash twn apocewn toys. Oxi, mono, den symbainei ayto, alla qa elega oti sthn politikh poy akoloyqei h kybernhsh kai oi dyo exoyn symballei me kaqoristiko tropo. Kai oi dyo aspazontai thn politikh ayth kai thn efarmozei o kaqenas ston tomea toy me poly ikanopoihtika apotelesmata.

BITALHS: O Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas apo to bhma ths Boylhs, milwntas sthn Epitroph Ejwterikwn kai Amynas eixe pei gia pagwma ths politikhs diapragmateyshs me thn Toyrkia. Qymamai kala ton oro.

REPPAS: Eixa dexqei, akribws, thn idia erwthsh prin apo dyo peripoy ebdomades kai eixa pei oti den einai se ejelijh kapoia politikh diapragmateysh kai ara den tiqetai qema pagwmatos. Afoy den exei arxisei kati den einai dynato na stamathsei.

BITALHS: O k. Papandreoy milaei kai ep `aytoy. Alla, o k. Papandreoy se ayth th synenteyjh dieykrinizei oti plhn ths yfalokrhpidas den yparxoyn alla problhmata. Kai an yparxoyn mporoyme na ta syzhthsoyme. Poia alla blepei o k. Papandreoy poy mporoyme na syzhthsoyme;

REPPAS: O k. Papandreoy @prepei na synexisete thn apanthsh poy edwse- eipe oti yparxei to Dieqnes Dikaio, yparxoyn oi Dieqneis Symbaseis, yparxoyn Synqhkes poy prepei na ginontai sebastes kai na throyntai. Eipe oti den yparxei gia mas opoiodhpote allo qema. Ekeinos, o opoios qewrei oti yparxei qema exei ypoch toy kai to dromo poy prepei na akoloyqhsei gia na antimetwpisei to qema ayto. Einai h pagia qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Emeis apo th dikh mas pleyra oyden allo qema qetoyme, oyden allo qema anagnwrizoyme.

BITALHS: An qymamai kala, motamo o k. Papandreoy leei oti mporoyme na syzhthsoyme kai alla qemata plhn ths yfalokrhpidas ean yparjei sebasmos toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy kai twn Dieqnwn Synqhkwn.

REPPAS: Yparxoyn alla qemata ta opoia exoyn syzhthqei kai epi twn opoiwn exoyn synafqei kai symfwnies. Yparxoyn keimena poy exoyn symfwnhqei. Gnwrizete poly kala oti yparxoyn ennea symfwnies gia ennea diaforetika antikeimena. Ayth einai h mia pleyra kai den afora ayto -me opoiondhpote tropo kai an to dei kaneis- politikh diapragmateysh. Apo ekei kai pera, epanalambanw oti an h Toyrkia qewrei oti yparxoyn alla qemata exei kai to dromo poy mporei na odhghsei sthn anadeijh twn qematwn poy qewrei oti thn apasxoloyn. Emeis den prokeitai na qesoyme kanena allo qema, giati kata thn apoch kai thn politikh mas den yparxei allo qema peran aytoy ths yfalokrhpidas. Ayto eipe kai o k. Papandreoy.

BITALHS: Dhladh, eseis dieykrinizete kai lete oti ta opoiadhpote alla qemata einai oi ennea symfwnies kai ta legomena qemata ``xamhlhs politikhs''.

REPPAS: Ta ennea qemata ta eixame entajei se ayth thn kathgoria ths kaloymenhs ``xamhlhs politikhs''. Yparxei kati allo;

BITALHS: Den jerw, sas rwtaw.

REPPAS: An mia pleyra, h opoiadhpote pleyra @kai den anaferomai mono sthn Toyrkia- qelei na qesei kapoio qema, mporei na thn empodisei kaneis; Ayto to opoio, omws, prepei na kanei, opoios qetei qema to opoio kata th gnwmh toy qewrei oti yparxei kai prepei na to qesei, einai na akoloyqhsei to dromo toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy, na akoloyqhsei aytoys toys kanones. Kathgoreite thn kybernhsh giati den desmeyei opoiadhpote allh xwra na qesei opoiodhpote qema; Ayth einai h kritikh poy askeite; H kybernhsh sas lew oti mono ayto to qema dexetai oti yparxei pros syzhthsh. To qema ths yfalokrhpidas kai tipota allo. Einai pagia h politikh ayth qesh, thn opoia epanalambanei me ayto ton tropo kai o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn.

BITALHS: Leei o k. Papandreoy oti prospaqoyme na diapistwsoyme an h Toyrkia exei epektatikh kai epiqetikh politikh. Ayto prospaqoyme na to diapistwsoyme;

REPPAS: O k. Papandreoy exei pei me pollh safhneia tis apoceis toy, poy einai kai to perigramma ths ejwterikhs politikhs poy akoloyqoyme. Eseis twra qelete na kanoyme ermhneia ths synenteyjhs poy paraxwrhse o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn; Nomizw oti ayto den einai swsto. Ayto poy eipe o k. Papandreoy einai stoixeia ths ejwterikhs politikhs mas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh pote qa anakoinwsei ta metra gia toys poyropaqeis;

REPPAS: Eipa, oti thn erxomenh Pempth qa ginei syskech, ypo ton Prwqypoyrgo me th symmetoxh synarmodiwn ypoyrgwn me ayto to antikeimeno, prokeimenoy na exoyme mia plhrh eikona gia tis zhmies poy exoyn proklhqei meta tis prosfates pyrkagies kai sth synexeia qa laboyme tis telikes apofaseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati argei toso poly h kybernhsh;

REPPAS: H ektimhsh twn zhmiwn, gia na ginei me ena sobaro tropo, apaitei ena orismeno xroniko diasthma. H diadikasia ayth, mporei na pei kaneis, oti jekina apo shmera. Twra stamathsan oi fwties. Elpizoyme na mhn exoyme anazwpyrwsh sta diafora metwpa. Gi` ayto prepei na eimaste se etoimothta kai paramenoyme se etoimothta gia kaqe endexomeno. Apo ekei kai pera, bebaiws, oi yphresies kanoyn apotimhsh twn zhmiwn. Otan qa oloklhrwsoyn to ergo toys, qa laboyme ypoch mas pws exoyn ta pragmata, prokeimenoy na paroyme tis telikes apofaseis mas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh epimenei sthn Pyrosbestikh h qa kanei pali kapoia sygxwneysh me th dasikh yphresia gia na antimetwpizoyn tis pyrkagies;

REPPAS: Prepei na sas pw oti p.x. to Ypoyrgeio Gewrgias mono gia to 1999 exei xorhghsei 42,6 disekatommyria draxmes gia thn antimetwpish twn qematwn aytwn, dhladh gia thn efarmogh mias politikhs poy symballei kai sthn prolhch, enocei ths qerinhs periodoy kai twn endexomenwn pyrkagiwn. Ta xrhmata ayta exoyn doqei toso stis perifereiakes dasikes yphresies kai to poso en prokeimenw anerxetai se 23, 1 disekatommyria draxmes, oso kai sta kata topoys Dasarxeia kai to poso sthn periptwsh ayth anerxetai sta eji disekatommyria draxmes kai afora kaqarismo epikindynwn perioxwn gia ekdhlwsh pyrkagias, peripolies poy prepei na ginoyn me eyqynh twn Dasarxeiwn se diafores perioxes ths xwras. Einai kai alla posa poy aforoyn alles draseis poy eprepe na anaptyxqoyn. Antilambaneste pws sto plaisio aytoy toy kratoys, etsi opws einai diarqrwmeno me apokentrwmenes yphresies, ayto poy eprepe na kanei to kentro, h kybernhsh, to armodio ypoyrgeio to exei kanei. Ara, loipon, yparxei politikh proetoimasias ths xwras mas gia na antimetwpisei to opoio endexomeno. Bebaiws, den einai dynato na antimetwpisoyme akraia kairika fainomena, san ayta poy ekdhlwqhkan tis teleytaies hmeres sthn patrida mas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mono sta akraia xreiazontai. Sta akraia to kratos htan apon.

REPPAS: To kratos, pragmatika, den mporei na tiqaseysei toys anemoys. Ayto einai mia alhqeia. Omws, kanena kratos ston kosmo den mporei na epibalei th qelhsh kai tis diatages toy stoys anemoys. Otan exoyn isxyrh entash kai pneoyn me diaforetikh kateyqynsh einai kati poy dysxerainei, afantasta, to ergo twn pyrosbestikwn yphresiwn. Kai prepei na sas pw oti thn prohgoymenh Pempth, poy htan mia poly krisimh mera, ta para polla kai isxyra mesa enaerias pyrosbeshs poy eixame sth diaqesh mas, den ta xrhsimopoihsame kaqoloy. Htan san na mh ta eixame. Breqhkame, dhladh, apo apoch dynatothtwn sto kaqestws twn prohgoymenwn xronwn, poy ayta ta mesa den ta eixame kan promhqeytei. Enw, twra, opws exw pei kat` epanalhch, eimaste h trith xwra ston kosmo apo apoch ejoplismoy, oson afora ta enaeria mesa, meta thn Amerikh kai ton Kanada. Ayto, loipon, leei polla.

STAMATOPOYLOS: o Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei tis perioxes poy eplhghsan;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti thn erxomenh Pempth qa proedreysei se sxetikh syskech. Apo ekei kai pera qa laboyme tis apofaseis mas, analogws twn ejelijewn. Shmasia exei na laboyme swstes apofaseis kai metra poy qa anakoyfisoyn toys plhgentes. Ayto exei shmasia. Giati, o Prwqypoyrgos episkeptomenos mia perioxh qelei na einai xrhsimos gia thn perioxh kai oxi gia ton eayton toy kai to komma toy.

MIXAHL: Giati, den pairnete na efarmosete to omofwno porisma ths Diakommatikhs Epitrophs gia ta dash; Yparxoyn ekkremh zhthmata, opws eipe kai o k. Tzoymakas shmera, poy to eishghqhke tote kai htan melos ths kybernhshs toy PASOK. To porisma, metajy allwn, leei oti an den jekaqarisei olo to topio gyrw apo to ti einai dasos kai ti den einai kai apo ekei kai pera den oristikopoihqei ayth h diafora den ginetai tipota. Den einai mono to Kthmatologio. Einai ta ayqaireta, ta dash, oi ydatinoi poroi kai ola ayta, ta opoia dystyxws den perpatane apo tis armodies yphresies. Ayto einai to problhma. To Ypoyrgeio Gewrgias oti exei dwsei ayta ta xrhmata einai gnwsto. Kaneis den to amfisbhtei. Kapoies yphresies den kanoyn kala th doyleia toys kai ayto akribws epishmainei to porisma. Apo to 1996 poy ekdoqhke ayto to porisma den exei ginei tipota. Kai edw einai to problhma. Giati, loipon, den to efarmozete;

REPPAS: Pws den exei ginei tipota; Exoyme, kata poly, enisxysei ton ejoplismo se mesa pyrosbeshs. Exoyme kanei proslhceis proswpikoy poy einai ta prwta pragmata poy h Diakommatikh Epitroph zhtoyse. Exei diamorfwqei mia krisimh katastash se polles perioxes ths xwras, poy eplhghsan apo tis pyrkagies. Ayto poy exei shmasia einai na thn antimetwpisoyme kai qa to kanoyme sto plaisio enos nomosxedioy gia ekkremh qemata. Einai kati poy qa prepei na kanoyme me eyqynh kai qa to antimetwpisoyme to qema, apeyqynomenoi kai sta alla kommata, an qelete na sas to pw kai ayto. Giati, pisteyoyme oti xreiazetai ayth h ypeyqynh proseggish me th symbolh olwn, alla bebaiws mh menete sto porisma ths Diakommatikhs, to opoio qa moy epitrecete na pw diatypwqhke se mia allh epoxh kai katw apo alles synqhkes. Polla pragmata exoyn allajei. Yparxoyn, bebaiws, qemata poy prepei na antimetwpisoyme kai qa to kanoyme.

Sas eyxaristw poly!

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