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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 5 Maioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Opws gnwrizete, synedriase shmera h Kybernhtikh Epitroph me dieyrymenh synqesh. Basikos eishghths htan o Prwqypoyrgos, o opoios prodiegrace to kybernhtiko ergo gia thn epomenh tetraetia.

Milhse gia thn poreia ths kybernhshs sth nea periodo, me gnwmona tis desmeyseis poy analabame enanti toy ellhnikoy laoy stis prosfates ekloges kai gia thn isxyrh boylhsh mas na fanoyme synepeis sthn efarmogh aytwn twn programmatikwn ejaggeliwn mas. Edwse tono aisiodojias kai bebaiothtas, oti, kaqws qa kleinei o kyklos qhteias ayths ths kybernhshs to 2004, stis nees ekloges qa eimaste kai pali etoimoi na paroysiasoyme, apologistika pleon, to ergo mas ston ellhniko lao kai na kriqoyme kai pali apo ayton, wste na ejasfalisoyme, gia mia akoma fora, thn empistosynh toy.

Epishmane toys staqmoys ths neas tetraetias, xronikoys, alla kai politikoys.

Sto plaisio ayto mporw na anaferw epigrammatika ta ejhs:

To Martio toy 2002, qa diejaxqei to Synedrio toy PASOK, me th symplhrwsh triwn etwn apo to prohgoymeno.

Ton Oktwbrio toy 2002, diejagontai oi ekloges gia thn Topikh kai Nomarxiakh Aytodioikhsh.

To prwto ejamhno toy 2003, h Ellada qa askhsei ta kaqhkonta Proedrias ths E.E. Dhladh, to prwto ejamhno toy 2003 antilambaneste pws qa exoyme mia entatikh enasxolhsh me ta qemata ths Eyrwphs.

Apo ton Ioylio toy 2003 kai meta, me thn oloklhrwsh, dhladh ths Proedrias mas, oysiastika mpainoyme ston teleytaio xrono, prin apo tis epomenes ekloges.

Kai bebaia, ton Aygoysto toy 2004 qa diejaxqoyn sthn Ellada oi Olympiakoi Agwnes. Ena poly shmantiko gegonos, meta tis epomenes ekloges, bebaiws.

Idiaitera shmantiko gegonos se ayth thn periodo einai h oloklhrwsh ths entajhs ths xwras mas sthn ONE. H apofash qa lhfqei, opws gnwrizete, stis 19 kai 20 Ioynioy, sthn Portogalia.

O Prwqypoyrgos epishmane thn anagkh na ajiopoihsoyme to endiameso xroniko diasthma, ton krisimo politiko xrono, prokeimenoy -exontas labei tis oristikes apofaseis mas gia shmantika qemata ta opoia qa orisoyn thn poreia ths xwras gia ta epomena xronia, se synennohsh me tis endiaferomenes koinwnikes omades kai toys koinwnikoys foreis- na dhmioyrghsoyme ena neo topio.

Ena shmantiko qema to opoio qa mas apasxolhsei olh thn epomenh periodo, einai h proetoimasia gia thn organwsh ths Olympiadas toy 2004. Kathgorhmatika epanelabe, shmera, o Prwqypoyrgos oti den tiqetai qema dhmioyrgias eidikoy ypoyrgeioy gia thn Olympiada toy 2004. Gia to qema ayto gnwrizete oti exei programmatistei synanthsh toy me ton ypoyrgo Politismoy, thn erxomenh Deytera. Kai thn Trith, exei programmatistei eyreia kybernhtikh syskech ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy, opoy qa lhfqoyn sxetikes apofaseis gia ta synafh qemata.

O Prwqypoyrgos anaferqhke akomh sthn oikonomikh anaptyjh ths xwras kai idiaitera ths ellhnikhs perifereias. Milhse gia thn oloklhrwsh twn megalwn ergwn, thn analhch newn prwtoboyliwn kai thn epispeysh parembasewn sthn ellhnikh eparxia, prokeimenoy oles aytes oi prwtoboylies na exoyn oloklhrwqei kai na exoyn apodwsei karpoys, sto plaisio ayths ths tetraetoys qhteias ths kybernhshs mas.

O Prwqypoyrgos prosdiorise tesseris basikoys tomeis, legontas pws me aytoys mporei na perigracei kaneis to plaisio sto opoio qa kinhqoyme.

O prwtos tomeas, exei sxesh me thn anaptyjh ths xwras mas.

H ONE, h entajh mas se ayth, alla kai pws qa antimetwpisoyme tis proklhseis ths neas periodoy ws melh ths, apoteloyn proteraiothta gia mas.

Me mia anaptygmenh, pleon, oikonomia, h Ellada thn epomenh periodo qa exei th dynatothta na prosferei kalyteres synqhkes zwhs stoys polites.

Ta epitokia qa meiwqoyn akoma perissotero.

Oi diarqrwtikes allages poy prepei na ginoyn, qa proxwrhsoyn me dialogo kai koinwnikh eyaisqhsia. Den prokeitai na anatrecoyme koinwnikes isorropies, dioti epiqymoyme na diasfalisoyme to agaqo ths koinwnikhs synoxhs. Ayto einai pantote basikh epidiwjh mas.

O ryqmos anaptyjhs gia ta epomena xronia problepetai na einai ychlos, na aggijei kai na jeperasei to 4%, pragma to opoio qa apotelesei to basikotero oplo poy qa exoyme sth diaqesh mas gia na antimetwpisoyme alla problhmata, opws to megalo koinwniko problhma ths anergias.

To G@ K.P.S., epishs, qa mas dwsei th dynatothta, ajiopoiwntas toys problepomenoys poroys, na epitelesoyme shmantiko ergo. Einai, isws, h monadikh eykairia poy paroysiazetai, afoy me thn oloklhrwsh toy G@ K.P.S. den problepetai kapoio allo antistoixo yposthriktiko programma.

Kai bebaiws, mias kai miloyme gia ton tomea ths anaptyjhs, qa proxwrhsoyme, symfwna me to xronodiagramma poy exoyme qesei, stis diarqrwtikes allages, sthn apeleyqerwsh twn agorwn energeias, thlepikoinwniwn, stis tomes se alles perioxes ths oikonomias, prokeimenoy na katasthsoyme pio antagwnistikes tis epixeirhseis kai kalyterh thn poiothta twn yphresiwn poy prosferontai stoys polites.

O deyteros tomeas, afora to metwpo ths ejwterikhs politikhs.

To meizon eqniko qema gia mas einai h epilysh toy kypriakoy problhmatos. To endiaferon ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas gia thn Kypro einai ena poly qetiko gegonos. Pisteyoyme oti mporei katw apo orismenes proypoqeseis na yparjoyn qetikes ejelijeis ston tomea ayto.

Oson afora tis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis, epiqymoyme na ajiopoihqei to plaisio poy symfwnhqhke sto Elsinki. H Toyrkia na antapokriqei se orismenes arxes, oi opoies desmeyoyn oles tis xwres sth xarajh kai askhsh ths ejwterikhs toys politikhs.

To qema ths dieyrynshs ths E.E. einai, epishs, poly shmantiko qema kai qa apasxolhsei ta eyrwpaika organa thn epomenh periodo. Exei idiaitero endiaferon gia mas giati, opws gnwrizete, afora kai thn Kypro.

Oson afora thn amyna ths xwras, einai se ejelijh to ejoplistiko programma, to opoio qa oloklhrwqei me synepeia, epeidh qewroyme oti xreiazetai, parallhla me tis politikes kai diplwmatikes prwtoboylies kai energeies mas, na enisxysoyme se eparkestato baqmo thn apotreptikh ikanothta ths xwras mas.

Enas tritos tomeas, afora thn prospaqeia mas gia thn oloklhrwsh toy koinwnikoy kratoys.

Exoyme qesei filodojoys, ychloys stoxoys, sxetika me to qema ths apasxolhshs. Einai ena kentriko koinwniko zhthma gia thn politikh mas thn epomenh periodo.

Epishs, exoyme diatypwsei thn anagkh na proxwrhsoyme sthn anadiarqrwsh kai stis allages poy einai aparaithtes sto asfalistiko systhma. Epiqymoyme h politikh mas na proxwrhsei sthn epiteyjh twn stoxwn poy exoyme qesei, me bash tis proeklogikes ejaggelies mas, mesa apo synennohsh me toys emplekomenoys foreis kai synainesh, alla na einai, taytoxrona, politikh tolmhrh, politikh tomwn, giati qewroyme oti einai anagkaio na proxwrhsoyme se rizikes allages se kapoies periptwseis, prokeimenoy h xwra mas na diathrhsei to ychlo epipedo anaptyjhs kai na diasfalisei gia toys polites ths kalyteres synqhkes zwhs.

Ston idio tomea sygkatalegontai oi allages, oi metarryqmiseis, oi beltiwseis poy prepei na ginoyn sto xwro ths Ygeias, sto ESY.

Sto xwro ths Paideias, qa proxwrhsoyme sthn efarmogh ths ekpaideytikhs metarryqmishs poy exei, hdh, jekinhsei. H oloklhrwsh ths efarmoghs ayths ths metarryqmishs, asfalws apaitei xrono. Qa epidiwjoyme na kerdisoyme thn empistosynh ths ellhnikhs koinwnias pros th dhmosia ekpaideysh, pros to ekpaideytiko systhma, me oles ekeines tis prosarmoges kai beltiwseis poy h idia h didaktikh prajh qa mas deijei oti prepei na kanoyme.

O tetartos tomeas, afora thn zwh, thn ejyphrethsh toy polith.

Qeloyme ton eksygxronismo twn yphresiwn ths Dioikhshs, me th diasfalish twn dikaiwmatwn twn politwn. Kai gi` ayto, akribws, epiqymoyme na synexisoyn na leitoyrgoyn -kai malista pio entatika- qesmoi poy exoyme eishghqei, opws o Synhgoros toy Polith h oi epiqewrhtes Dhmosias Dioikhshs k.a.

Qa eimaste diarkws antimetwpoi kai polemioi fainomenwn diafqoras, se oles tis baqmides ths Dioikhshs kai sthn Aytodioikhsh.

H poiothta twn yphresiwn ths Dioikhshs poy prosferontai ston polith, qa prepei na einai ychloy epipedoy. Eimaste mia sygxronh eyrwpaikh xwra. O forologoymenos poliths prepei na exei poiotikes yphresies, aytes poy dikaioytai kai aytes poy toy ajizoyn, apo tis Dhmosies Yphresies.

Oson afora ta qemata poy aforoyn thn perifereiakh domh, th sygkrothsh ths xwras, prepei na sas pw oti einai qema poy qa apasxolhsei thn kybernhsh, thn katallhlh stigmh. Oi armodioi paragontes qa eishghqoyn ta analoga qemata sta kybernhtika organa gia na lhfqoyn apofaseis. Briskw thn eykairia na tonisw kathgorhmatika oti einai ejw apo to programma mas kai den antimetwpizoyme qema qespishs toy G@ baqmoy Aytodioikhshs, me thn eisagwgh toy qesmoy toy airetoy Perifereiarxh. Oydepote teqhke tetoio qema. H perifereia paramenei apokentrwmenh monada toy kratoys. Einai stoixeio ths kratikhs ontothtas kai etsi qa synexisei na leitoyrgei.

Ena allo megalo qema, to opoio qa mas apasxolhsei toys epomenoys mhnes, einai ayto ths anaqewrhshs toy Syntagmatos. H anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos apotelei mia eykairia kai taytoxrona mia proklhsh na dhmioyrghsoyme ena pio sygxrono Syntagma, ena pio leitoyrgiko katastatiko xarth ths xwras mas. Pisteyoyme oti h diadikasia ayth poy ek twn pragmatwn prepei na einai synainetikh, qa bohqhsei ola ta kommata na anaptyjoyn ypeyqyna, tekmhriwmena tis apoceis toys, wste na katalhjoyme se ryqmiseis poy qa aphxoyn th boylhsh ths megalhs pleiochfias, oxi aplws twn politikwn kommatwn, alla kai twn Ellhnwn politwn, gia to pws antilambanontai th leitoyrgia mias sygxronhs koinwnias.

Afoy oloklhrwsa me toys tesseris aytoys tomeis, qa anaferqw se apoceis poy ekfrasqhkan apo melh ths K.E. gia diafora qemata:

-Ektimatai oti htan ikanopoihtikh h leitoyrgia twn kybernhtikwn organwn thn prohgoymenh periodo. Kai kata thn epomenh periodo, exontas apokomisei shmantikh empeiria apo th leitoyrgia twn kybernhtikwn organwn, qa prepei na doyme poies einai oi Epitropes poy qa prepei na synexisoyn na leitoyrgoyn, kaqws kai tis allages poy prepei na ginoyn sta diafora kybernhtika organa. Kat` arxas gnwrizete, oti peran toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy kai ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, exei systaqei kai leitoyrgei to KYSEA gia ta qemata ths ejwterikhs politikhs kai ths amynas, h Oikonomikh kai Koinwnikh Epitroph gia ta sxetika qemata, h Epitroph Megalwn Ergwn kai h Epitroph Qesmwn. Ayta ta tessera kybernhtika organa, qa elega, einai ta pio shmantika.

-Ektimatai, epishs, oti h N.D. sthn epomenh periodo, epeidh antilambanetai pws den mporei na sygkrothsei programma kai na diatypwsei enallaktikh protash, qa katafeygei se akraies symperifores, se mia politikh stash h opoia -polles fores ektos oriwn- qa stoxeyei sto na antipoliteyqei thn kybernhsh san na einai ayto aytoskopos, me apotelesma h leitoyrgia toy politikoy systhmatos na blaptetai apo ton tropo me ton opoio to komma ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs qa symperiferetai h qa epixeirhsei na antipoliteyqei thn kybernhsh. Oxi se epipedo qesewn h enallaktikwn protasewn, alla se epipedo synqhmatwn h atekmhriwtwn kataggeliwn gia th dhmioyrgia entypwsewn kai monon.

Akoloyqhse problhmatismos o opoios, qa elega, kinhqhke sto plaisio sto opoio anaferqhka.

Meta th synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, synedriase to KYSEA, to opoio apofasise na topoqethsei, meta thn paraithsh poy ypebale o Arxhgos toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos k. Gkekas, Arxhgo toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos ton mexri shmera B@ Yparxhgo, ton k. Foyrla.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

SWKOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw an syzhthsate sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph to endexomeno allagwn sto organwtiko sxhma gia th diorganwsh ths Olympiadas se proswpa kai foreis kai an o Prwqypoyrgos qa analabei, opws grafetai shmera to geniko syntonismo . Kai mia deyterh erwthsh: Mas eipate oti h kybernhsh den skeftetai thn kaqierwsh tritoy baqmoy aytodioikhshs. Mhpws, omws, skeftetai th meiwsh twn perifereiwn se epta h twn nomwn;

REPPAS: Oson afora to qema twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn, h anafora h opoia egine apo ton Prwqypoyrgo kai toys alloys omilhtes htan genikh. Htan anafora gia to xarakthra twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn ws mias megalhs eqnikhs ypoqeshs sthn opoia prepei oloi na symbaloyn, prokeimenoy na diorganwqei me epityxia h Olympiada toy 2004.

Oson afora to organwtiko sxhma den egine opoiadhpote syzhthsh. Aplws, o Prwqypoyrgos @opws sas enhmerwsa- anaferqhke arnhtika sto endexomeno na dhmioyrghqei eidiko ypoyrgeio gia thn Olympiada. Sas eipa, epishs, oti tis epomenes hmeres problepontai synergasies toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai kybernhtikes syskeceis gia to idio qema. Den problepetai, oyte exei apasxolhsei thn kybernhsh otidhpote afora organwtikes allages sto sxhma to opoio ayth thn wra einai gnwsto se sas kai antimetwpizei ta qemata proetoimasias ths xwras mas gia thn Olympiada toy 2004. Kai, bebaiws, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei ton elegxo epi twn diadikasiwn kai twn leitoyrgiwn poy akoloyqoyntai, prokeimenoy na proetoimastei h xwra mas gia thn Olympiada. Qa dromologhsei diadikasies leitoyrgias twn kybernhtikwn organwn, etsi wste na antimetwpizontai amesws kai apotelesmatika ta opoia problhmata prokyptoyn, sthn poreia gia thn proetoimasia ths xwras mas enocei ths Olympiadas toy 2004. Oson afora, to deytero erwthma sas, epanalambanw oti h kybernhsh den antimetwpizei qema qespishs tritoy baqmoy aytodioikhshs. H perifereia paramenei dioikhtika ws exei, sto plaisio toy apokentrwmenoy kratoys. Ola ta qemata poy aforoyn th dioikhtikh domh ths xwras qa antimetwpistoyn apo to armodio ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs, to opoio thn katallhlh stigmh qa eishghqei sta kybernhtika organa. Opoies alles apoceis diatypwnontai apoteloyn meros enos problhmatismoy kai den exoyn sxesh me kybernhtikes apofaseis, afoy den exoyn apasxolhsei kybernhtika organa kai den apoteloyn eishghseis armodiwn paragontwn ths kybernhshs.

BLAXOS: Qelw na rwthsw an qewreite oti h leitoyrgia ths Epitrophs Olympiakwn Agwnwn einai erasitexnikh, dioti shmera apokalyfqhke oti ekanan ena dieqnh diagwnismo gia sxedia gia to Olympiako Xwrio kai enw eixan dwsei dieyqynsh to Zappeio, phre o k. Mpakoyrhs kai oi alloi th dieyqynsh apo ekei kai thn phgan sthn Khfisias, oi jenoi esteilan ta xartia toys sto Zappeio, h asfaleia toy Zappeioy elege oti efygan aytoi, den yparxei kaneis edw pia, me apotelesma na toys meinoyn oi meletes sta xeria, na ginei h diadikasia kai oi alloi na caxnoyn poy einai ta grafeia toy k. Mpakoyrh. Me sygxwreite, alla nomizw oti ayto, oyte@ ston Eqniko den ginetai.

REPPAS: Ston Eqniko sigoyra den einai dynato na ginei, giati o Eqnikos den exei toso megalh zhthsh! Ston Eqniko gnwrizomaste oloi!

Oson afora thn oysia ths erwthshs sas, den qa sxoliasw tis drasthriothtes ths Organwtikhs Epitrophs. Gnwrizete oti stegazotan mexri protinos sto ktirio toy Zappeioy. Exei metaferqei, pleon, se dika ths ktiria sthn arxh ths Lewforoy Khfisias. Logiko einai tote poy prokhryxthke o diagwnismos kai zhthqhkan protaseis apo endiaferomenoys na mhn einai gnwsth h dieyqynsh ths telikhs kai oristikhs egkatastashs ths Organwtikhs Epitrophs kai na doqhke h dieyqynsh toy Zappeioy Megaroy. Tetoioy eidoys leitoyrgika problhmata pisteyw oti mporei na antimetwpistoyn me kalo pneyma kai pantws den qewrw oti mporei na apotyxei enas diagwnismos h na apodeixqei anapotelesmatikh mia prospaqeia monon kai monon ej aytoy toy logoy. Kalo, omws, einai tetoioy eidoys fainomena na apofeygontai, giati den dhmioyrgoyn kalh entypwsh.

MIXAHL: Prwton, qelw na rwthsw an apofasisthke sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph o tropos efarmoghs aytwn twn tomewn poy mas perigracate. Dioti sas qymizw oti sthn prohgoymenh kybernhsh yphrje diafwnia an ta metra eprepe na lhfqoyn eyqys ej arxhs ths tetraetias h eprepe na efarmostoyn tmhmatika kaq` olh th diarkeia ths tetraetias. Deyteron, poies eggyhseis yparxoyn oti aytoi oi stoxoi qa epiteyxqoyn kai kyriws oson afora to kratos, dioti sas qymizw oti paradexqhkate san kybernhsh kai stelexh toy PASOK proeklogika oti pragmati ysterhsate se orismenoys tomeis.

REPPAS: Oson afora to deytero qema, metajy twn allwn, mporw na epanalabw oti to megalo epiteygma mas einai oti ejasfalisame, ta teleytaia xronia, sthn patrida mas ychloys ryqmoys anaptyjhs. Gnwrizete poly kala oti eimaste sthn prwth grammh ths Eyrwphs. Ta epomena xronia problepetai oti h anaptyjh sth xwra mas qa einai akomh pio ychlh. Gia arketa xronia oi ryqmoi anaptyjhs toy AEP sthn Ellada qa kinoyntai konta sto 5%. Ayto shmainei oti mporoyme na exoyme, ejasfalizontas megala prwtogenh pleonasmata, thn anesh na kanoyme dianemhtikes politikes, na ejasfalisoyme tis polles qeseis apasxolhshs poy exoyme ejaggeilei ston ellhniko lao, na beltiwsoyme to eisodhma twn Ellhnwn.

Oson afora to prwto erwthma, armodioi gia thn efarmogh ths politikhs se orismenoys tomeis einai oi antistoixoi ypoyrgoi. Pantote oi ypoyrgoi exoyn sygkekrimenes armodiothtes. Bebaiws, oi ypoyrgoi anhkoyn se ena syllogiko sxhma, poy einai h kybernhsh, kai kinoyntai se ena plaisio me bash tis kateyqynseis poy dinei o Prwqypoyrgos h apofasizoyn ta kybernhtika organa. Ara, loipon, to sxhma, oson afora thn efarmogh ths politikhs poy apofasizei h Kybernhsh, paramenei to gnwsto dokimasmeno sxhma, ayto poy se oles tis xwres isxyei, kai armodioi gia kaqe periptwsh einai oi ypoyrgoi.

PAPPA: Qelw na rwthsw an se sxesh me to qema twn diarqrwtikwn allagwn o k. Papantwnioy sas enhmerwse gi` ayta ta qemata.

REPPAS: O k. Papantwnioy se poly genikes grammes epanelabe ayta ta opoia eixe ejaggeilei ws armodios ypoyrgos se allh eykairia. Syndew thn apanthsh poy dinw se sas me mia symplhrwsh poy prepei na kanw se sxetikh erwthsh toy k. Mixahl. Eipa kai sthn eisagwgh moy, oti diatypwqhke h skech pws qa prepei na ajiopoihsoyme ton endiameso politiko xrono, poly prin pame stis eklogikes anametrhseis. Eipa oti h prwth eklogikh anametrhsh einai ton Oktwbrio toy 2002 gia thn Topikh kai Nomarxiakh Aytodioikhsh. To a@ ejamhno toy 2003 qa exoyme thn Proedria ths E.E.. Me thn oloklhrwsh ths Proedrias mas, apo ton Ioylio toy 2003, qa exoyme hdh mpei ston teleytaio xrono prin apo tis ekloges. Ayto shmainei oti prin apo tis ekloges toy 2002, prin apo thn proeklogikh periodo twn eklogwn aytwn qa prepei na exoyme efarmosei ta basika metra poy exoyme ejaggeilei, prokeimenoy sto telos ths tetraetoys qhteias mas na exoyme ta apotelesmata apo thn efarmogh aytwn twn metrwn.

KATSIGIANNHS: Mporeite na mas peite ti syzhthsan shmera o Prwqypoyrgos me ton k. Pasxalidh sthn thlefwnikh epikoinwnia poy eixan;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos epikoinwnei syxnotata me oloys toys ypoyrgoys gia diafora qemata epikairothtas kai armodiothtas toys. Antilambaneste pws antallajan kapoies apoceis gia qemata poy aforoyn ta kaqhkonta toy k. Pasxalidh.

FILIPPAKOPOYLOS: Sta kaqhkonta toy k. Pasxalidh einai kai ayta ta opoia eipe gia tis allages sth Dhmosia Dioikhsh;

REPPAS: Apanthsa se erwthsh gia thn epikoinwnia toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Pasxalidh. Gia ta alla qemata apanthsa me aformh prohgoymenh erwthsh kai hmoyn poly safhs se ayta ta opoia eipa.

MPOYRDARAS: Anaferqhke o Prwqypoyrgos shmera sto endexomeno allaghs eklogikoy nomoy, giati yparxei kai mia dhlwsh toy sth Boylh proeklogika oti amesws meta tis ekloges qa anoijei aytos o dialogos. Egine kapoia anafora sto qema;

REPPAS: Ta osa exei pei o Prwqypoyrgos isxyoyn. Den egine anafora sto qema ayto. Gnwrizete, allwste, oti h armodia ypoyrgos exei analabei na eishghqei gia ta qemata ayta se eyqeto xrono.

KAPPOS: Exei yparjei ejaggelia apo ton ypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs gia to qema ths synachs antitromokratikhs symfwnias me tis HPA. Qa hqela, prwton, na jerw an yparxei kapoio epishmo prwtokollo kai ti tajhs prwtokollo qa einai ayto, deyteron an ephrease h ekqesh toy Steit Ntipartment gi` ayth thn ejelijh kai triton pote qa doqei sth dhmosiothta to periexomeno aytoy toy prwtokolloy.

REPPAS: Den qa xarakthriza th symfwnia ayth symfwnia antitromokratikhs synergasias. Einai symfwnia astynomikhs synergasias. Qa einai ena mnhmonio katanohshs gia th synergasia twn dyo xwrwn se sxetika qemata. Den qa einai mia diakratikh symfwnia, ara den qa syzhthqei sth Boylh. Qa ypografei se yphresiako epipedo. Apo thn pleyra ths xwras mas qa ypogracei @to pio piqano ayto einai- o Arxhgos ths EL.AS. H syzhthsh gia to keimeno ayto exei ginei edw kai arketo kairo poly prin ginei gnwsth h ekqesh toy Steit Ntipartment. To ergo ayto gia th synach ths astynomikhs synergasias, mporei na pei kaneis, exei sxedon oloklhrwqei. Ara, thn epomenh periodo anamenomeno htan kai einai na ypografei h symfwnia ayth. Den exei prosdioristei sygkekrimenh hmeromhnia. Qa ginei, omws, thn epomenh periodo.

GIAKOYMHS: Symfwna me ayta poy eipate ayto exei kapoia sxesh me ta shmerina dhmosieymata poy anaferoyn oti peripoy to 90% twn andrwn ths EL.AS einai diefqarmenoi;

REPPAS: Den exei kamia sxesh to ena me to allo. Stis metrhseis, poy ginontai apo idiwtikoys foreis, bebaiws xrhsimopoioyntai orismenes meqodoi. Qa moy epitrecete na amfiballw kai na mh dexqw oti andres ths EL.AS mporei na xarakthristoyn diefqarmenoi se ena toso ychlo pososto. Giati den pisteyw oti einai diefqarmenoi.

KAPPOS: Pote ypologizete na doqei sth dhmosiothta to keimeno toy mnhmonioy;

REPPAS: Eyqys ws ypografei qa doqei sth dhmosiothta. Den qa meinei mystikh ayto to keimeno.

Sas eyxaristw. Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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