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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 4 Maioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, apo th mia milame gia bhmata proseggishs Elladas-Toyrkias kai apo thn allh o k. Etsebit kanei dhlwseis opoy, metajy twn allwn, leei oti den yparxei elpidoforo klima ek meroys ths Elladas. Epishmainei oti den exei ginei kapoio bhma sta qemata toy Aigaioy, arneitai to Dieqnes Dikasthrio ths Xaghs gia epilysh twn diaforwn. Oson afora to Kypriako, leei oti einai qema metajy twn dyo koinothtwn kai oti mono mesw dialogoy twn dyo koinothtwn @arneitai dhladh toys dieqneis organismoys- qa epilyqei to Kypriako. Akomh milaei kai gia apostratikopoihsh twn nhsiwn. Qa hqela mia apanthsh gia ola ayta.

REPPAS: To topio twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn einai jekaqaro. Den prepei na epixeireitai apo opoiadhpote pleyra, poly perissotero apo thn epishmh hgesia ths Toyrkias, na ginei omixlwdes. Yparxoyn sygkekrimenoi kanones, desmeyseis kai ypoxrewseis, tis opoies prepei oles oi xwres kai h Toyrkia na throyn. To Kypriako einai problhma to opoio antimetwpizetai sto plaisio toy OHE. Qa prepei h Toyrkia na symbalei sthn antimetwpish kai epilysh toy. Epishs, gnwrizete kala, oson afora ta qemata poy apasxoloyn thn Ellada kai thn Toyrkia, oti mporoyn na antimetwpistoyn sto plaisio toy grammatos kai toy pneymatos twn apofasewn ths Synodoy Koryfhs toy Elsinki. Yparxei to problhma ths yfalokrhpidas, to mono problhma metajy twn dyo xwrwn. Exei nomiko xarakthra kai prepei na antimetwpistei mesw toy Dieqnoys Dikasthrioy ths Xaghs. H Toyrkia qa prepei na symbalei se ayth thn kateyqynsh. Alla qemata mporei na syzhthqoyn, prokeimenoy na ejeyreqei mia lysh. Kai exoyn syzhthqei qemata me kalh pisth metajy twn dyo xwrwn. Exoyn prokycei symfwnies, meta apo dialogo, oi opoies dhmioyrgoyn ena neo periballon gia thn peraiterw anaptyjh twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn. Qemata, omws, ta opoia aforoyn eqnika symferonta h kyriarxika dikaiwmata den einai dynato na syzhthqoyn. Den einai dynato na apotelesoyn antikeimeno opoiasdhpote diapragmateyshs. Me ayth thn ennoia, prosferei kakh yphresia opoios probainei se tetoies dhlwseis ayth thn periodo, poy ginetai prospaqeia peraiterw beltiwshs twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn. Ayto to opoio mporw na pw einai toyto: Oso pio grhgora ajiopoihsei h Toyrkia tis dynatothtes poy prosferontai, toso kalytera qa ejyphrethsei to symferon ths kai toy laoy ths. Opws h Ellada sebetai toys dieqneis kanones, to idio kai h Toyrkia prepei na sebastei to plaisio ths dieqnoys ennomhs tajhs kai na apodeijei sthn prajh oti dikaioytai na einai isotimo melos ths E.E..

PAPAXRHSTOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, tis teleytaies dyo hmeres, jena eidhseografika praktoreia, alla kai efhmerides toy ejwterikoy syndeoyn th ragdaia ptwsh toy Eyrw me thn entajh ths Elladas sthn ONE. Parallhla, amfisbhtoyn kai ta oikonomika stoixeia ths entajhs ths xwras mas, opws epishs kai gia to an einai ikanh h Ellada na diathrhsei toys idioys ryqmoys meiwshs, as poyme, toy elleimmatos h ths diathrhshs toy plhqwrismoy sta shmerina epipeda. Qelw na sas rwthsw, loipon, pws sxoliazei h kybernhsh ayta ta sxolia poy diatypwnontai, opws, epishs, kai ta sxolia efhmeridwn p.x. twn Financial Times poy xqes synedean thn ypoqesh toy syllhfqentos sthn Komothnh Rwsoy egklhmatia, me to an h Ellada anhkei sto dytiko stratopedo, anhkei, dhladh, sth Dysh.

REPPAS: Oson afora to prwto qema, h Ellada mpainei sthn ONE me to spaqi ths. Gnwrizete kala oti exoyme epityxei oles tis proypoqeseis, prokeimenoy na entaxqoyme sthn ONE. H ejelijh ayth apotelei dikaiwsh ths politikhs poy akoloyqhsame kai twn prospaqeiwn, twn qysiwn toy ellhnikoy laoy. Se polla megeqh h Ellada brisketai se ena poly kalytero epipedo, apo ayto sto opoio breqhkan alles xwres ths E.E., otan entaxqhkan sthn ONE. Alla akomh kai shmera, oson afora, fer` eipein, to megeqos toy dhmosioy xreoys, gnwrizete oti h Ellada exei poly kalyterh epidosh apo alles xwres poy einai entagmenes sthn ONE. Ara, den dikaiologeitai opoiadhpote tetoia kritikh. Gnwrizw oti oi ekproswpoi toy Xristianodhmokratikoy kommatos ths Germanias exoyn ekfrasei amfibolia gia th dynatothta ths Elladas na entaxqei kai na parameinei ws isotimo melos sthn ONE. Einai h qesh aytoy toy kommatos. Lypoymaste gi` ayth th qesh. Den exei kamia epirroh, omws, h qesh ayth kai den allazei ta dedomena. Oi qeseis twn hgetwn ths E.E. einai gnwstes, afoy h apofash qa lhfqei me bash thn eishghsh ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs, h opoia einai se sas gnwsth. Doqhke xqes sth dhmosiothta.

Oson afora thn ptwsh toy Eyrw prepei na pw oti ayth h sxesh metajy dolarioy kai Eyrw parathreitai edw kai arketo kairo. Den einai fainomeno twn teleytaiwn hmerwn. Einai ena qema to opoio exei labei ayth thn ejelijh, poly prin ginei anafora sthn entajh ths Elladas sthn ONE. Ara, den dikaiologeitai ayth h sysxetish. An qelete, mia ejhghsh toy fainomenoy, mporw na kanw ena sxolio oti h eyrwpaikh oikonomia ysterei se sxesh me thn amerikanikh, toylaxiston shmera. Ayto akribws kanei to dolario na einai shmera poly pio isxyro. H E.E., prokeimenoy na odhghsei thn oikonomia twn xwrwn-melwn ths se anakamch, exei apofasisei na krathsei xamhla ta epitokia. Einai sto 4%, enw ta epitokia stis HPA einai sto 6%, pragma to opoio kanei to dolario na einai pio elkystiko.

Mporei na ginoyn, loipon, diafora sxolia poy ejhgoyn ayth thn ejelijh. To mono poy den dikaiologeitai na xrhsimopoieitai ws ermhneia einai h anamenomenh entajh ths Elladas sthn ONE. H Ellada exei oles tis proypoqeseis, opws eixan kai oi alles xwres poy kriqhkan sto parelqon, gia na entaxqei sthn ONE. Den ginetai kamia xarh, kamia paraxwrhsh. Mpainoyme me to spaqi mas sthn ONE. Gi` ayto, akribws, dhlwnoyme apolyta ikanopoihmenoi.

Oson afora to deytero qema poy qesate, h Ellada @epanalambanw, einai mia xwra sthn opoia yparxei asfaleia kai tajh gia oloys toys polites poy zoyn se ayth. Tetoia peristatika antimetwpizontai apo tis armodies dikastikes kai astynomikes arxes. An anafereste sthn ypoqesh Tataregko, gnwrizete kala oti exei epilhfqei h ellhnikh dikaiosynh. Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio. Prokalei, omws, erwthmatika pws kapoioi miloyn peri ths dynatothtas na lhfqei apofash gia proswrinh ekdosh enos kratoymenoy se mia allh xwra. Kaqestws proswrinhs ekdoshs den problepetai, den yparxei poyqena ston kosmo. Den mporeis, dhladh, na ekdwseis kapoion kai meta na zhthseis kai pali thn epistrofh toy. Oi armodies dikastikes arxes, poy asxoloyntai me to qema, exoyn kai to logo. Egw den prokeitai na pw otidhpote allo, poy mporei @estw kai emmesws- na qewrhqei parembash sto diko toys ergo.

MIXAHL: Yparxei mia seira apo erwthmatika, sxetika me to pws telika hrqe to mwro ths oikogeneias Diamanth apo thn Aigypto sthn Ellada. Kai ta erwthmatika anaferontai sta ejhs: Giati, gia paradeigma, to YPEJ , to opoio eyqys ej arxhs @kai paradexetai akomh- eixe emplakei sthn ypoqesh ayth, giati den diekperaiwse mexri teloys olh ayth thn istoria. Gia paradeigma, yparxoyn antifaseis gia to poy eixe frontisei na paei h oikogeneia na paralabei to paidi kai poy ayth phge. To deytero einai, oti ekproswpos toy YPEJ eipe oti eixe sxetikh kaseta thn opoia qa edine se ola ta thleoptika diktya, apo thn kratikh thleorash se ola ta ypoloipa idiwtika, kai h kaseta ayth apedeixqh ``mayrh''. Qelw na rwthsw, loipon, an eseis, ws armodios ypoyrgos, qa zhthsete na ginei ereyna apo thn ERT, sxetika me to an yparxoyn eyqynes kai poioy eidoys kai telos pantwn, ws kybernhsh ti exete na peite gia oles aytes tis antifaseis, dioti apedeixqh oti mono ena thleoptiko diktyo eixe thn prosbash se olh ayth thn epixeirhsh, isws dieykoloymeno apo mia seira antifatikwn energeiwn.

REPPAS: Qelate na qesete to deytero qema kai qesate kai ena prwto erwthma, to opoio asfalws den exei qesh sth syzhthsh mas. Qa sas apanthsw kai sta dyo@

MIXAHL: Na sas pw giati qetw to qema. Qetw to qema gia ton ejhs logo. Dioti to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn h eidopoiei toys pantes kai leei oti ginetai h epixeirhsh kai toyto kai to allo h den mporei epilektika kapoioi anqrwpoi toy YPEJ, an to ekanan, na to ekanan epilektika pros mia kai monon kateyqynsh@

REPPAS: Telika, ayto hqela na pw oti kai ta dyo erwthmata sas@

MIXAHL: Syndeontai..

REPPAS: @ exoyn sxesh me th metadosh kapoiwn skhnwn, enos optikoakoystikoy ylikoy@

MIXAHL: Oxi monon, kai tis energeies toy ypoyrgeioy.

REPPAS: @apo sygkekrimeno thleoptiko staqmo kai mono apo ayton. Prwta ap` ola to ellhniko YPEJ edeije, pragmatika, entono endiaferon apo thn prwth stigmh. Eixe epafh me tis antistoixes yphresies ths Aigyptoy. Bebaiws, den diaqetoyme emeis dynameis sthn Aigypto. To epixeirhsiako meros, prokeimenoy na odhghqoyme se ayto to aisio telos, to anelaban oi dynameis ths Aigyptoy. Emeis parakoloyqhsame apo konta oloys toys xeirismoys poy eginan kai eimaste ikanopoihmenoi gi` ayth thn ejelijh.

Oson afora, th metadosh sygkekrimenoy optikoakoystikoy ylikoy apo thleoptiko staqmo, prepei na pw oti to yliko ayto den fainetai na proerxetai apo opoiondhpote ypallhlo kratikhs yphresias. Mporei o thleoptikos staqmos, o opoios isws eidopoihqhke apo toys idioys toys goneis toy paidioy, na ejasfalise ayto to yliko me dika toy mesa. Prepei na sas pw oti ekeino to brady, otan eidopoihqhkan oi goneis na elqoyn sthn Aqhna gia na synanthsoyn to paidi toys, hrqan synodeyomenoi kai apo syggeneis toys, oi opoioi eferan mazi toys ta katallhla mesa (kameres k.a.), prokeimenoy na apaqanatisoyn aytes tis stigmes, na magnhtoskophsoyn ayta ta gegonota. Ara, loipon, yparxoyn kai alles phges mesw twn opoiwn qa mporoyse kapoios na ejasfalisei ena tetoio yliko. Mporw na enisxysw thn epixeirhmatologia moy ayth, legontas pws kai sto yliko poy problhqhke apo sygkekrimeno thleoptiko staqmo, qa deite pws o feromenos ws exwn sth diaqesh toy to yliko ayto, ypallhlos toy YPEJ, einai mesa sto plano, apaqanatizetai mesa sto plano, to opoio me thn kamera toy kapoios allos, ekeinh thn wra, kategrace kai apotypwse sth dikh toy kamera. Ara, loipon, to yliko ayto oydeis mporei na pei oti einai ergo toy sygkekrimenoy ypallhloy, giati ayto yponoeite me thn erwthsh sas. Prepei na eimaste safeis. O sygkekrimenos ypallhlos paredwse to yliko ayto sthn ERT, prokeimenoy na anaparaxqei kai na metagrafei se kasetes, oi opoies xrhsimopoioyntai apo ta mhxanhmata twn thleoptikwn staqmwn. Ekei diapistwqhke kai me th bohqeia idiwtikwn staqmwn poy exoyn kai thn katallhlh ypodomh, ton katallhlo ejoplismo, oti h kaseta ayth htan aney sygkekrimenoy optikoakoystikoy periexomenoy. Ayto, omws, den shmainei ep` oydeni oti to periexomeno to opoio xrhsimopoihse enas thleoptikos staqmos prohlqe apo to sygkekrimeno ypallhlo, opws ennoeite h kapoioi afhsan na ennohqei.

MIXAHL: Egw den eipa ayto. Eipa oti o sygkekrimenos ypallhlos, otan rwthqhke gia to gegonos, eipe oti ``egw eida pws h kaseta eixe yliko. Kai thn eida kai sto spiti''.

REPPAS: Einai etsi akribws. Kai thn paredwse gi` ayto to logo.

MIXAHL: Pws loipon breqhke ayth na mhn exei yliko;

REPPAS: Ara, loipon, qa prepei na egine kapoio laqos profanws, apo kapoion adah h apo kapoion o opoios den htan arkoyntws epimelhs kai to periexomeno ths kasetas ayths sbhsthke prin doqei sthn ERT, me apotelesma thn krisimh stigmh na diapistwqei oti den yphrxe periexomeno. Alla, ayto to qema to syzhtame tosh wra @kai menw ki egw se ayth thn anaptyjh toy qematos- giati qa prepei na eimaste dikaioi. Den yparxei opoiadhpote proqesh, oyte kan skech yphrje, na eynohqei kapoios sygkekrimenos thleoptikos staqmos. To yliko to eixe ejasfalisei, profanws, apo allh phgh.

MIXAHL: Kati allo: To YPEJ, otan loipon enhmerwqhke oti oi aigyptiakes arxes fernoyn to paidi, eidopoihse thn oikogeneia na erqei na to paralabei. Frontise, malista, na dhmioyrghsei kai tis katallhles synqhkes, oi opoies omws den thrhqhkan. H oikogeneia breqhke alloy kai to paidi @agnwsto pws- alloy. Pws loipon to YPEJ, opws kai oi yphresies toy paradexontai eixan kanonisei th synanthsh sto jenodoxeio M. Bretania, breqhkan sthn perioxh twn Ilisiwn;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola to YPEJ eixe pragmati kanonisei se kentriko jenodoxeio na ginei ayth h synanthsh. Sto kentriko jenodoxeio hrqe to paidi kai egine h synanthsh. Apo ekei kai pera, bebaiws, oi goneis phran to paidi toys. To YPEJ ekrine oti gia cyxologikoys logoys den qa eprepe na einai paronta ekei ta MME, epeidh akribws oi stigmes aytes einai poly idiaiteres kai qa mporoyse na ginoyn kai traymatikes gia to paidi, to opoio perase mia peripeteia, alla kai gia toys goneis. To ean alloi anelaban sxetikh prwtoboylia kai eidopoihsan MME, ayto den afora to YPEJ.

FOYRLHS: Milhsate gia kapoion adah. Qa kanete EDE;

REPPAS: Den miloyme gia EDE. Asfalws, omws, to qema ayto einai antikeimeno ereynas. Apo xqes, hdh, exoyn zhthqei ejhghseis gia na doyme pws akribws exoyn ta gegonota.

FOYRLHS: To sxetiko yliko yparxei akomh sthn kratikh thleorash kai h kaseta einai telika grammenh;

REPPAS: H dhmosia thleorash prwta ap` ola exei ypoxrewsh @kai ayth einai h qesh ths pagiws- o,ti yliko exei na to dianemei kai stoys alloys thleoptikoys staqmoys. Kai an eixe sth diaqesh ths ayto to yliko, qa eixe kaqe logo, kaqe endiaferon na probalei to yliko ayto, pragma to opoio den ekane. Sas parakalw, loipon, na mhn kanete tetoioys syneirmoys.

FOYRLHS: Se mas einai safes oti h binteoskophsh poy problhqhke sto sygkekrimeno kanali apo erasitexnikh kamera, proerxetai apo texniko toy sygkekrimenoy idiwtikoy kanalioy kai oxi apo kapoio melos ths oikogeneias. Ayto se mas, toylaxiston, einai safes. Mporei se sas na mhn einai.

REPPAS: Na eiste pio sygkekrimenos, giati sas eipa kai egw prin, oti oi idioi oi goneis kai kapoioi poy toys synodeyan, endexomenws, einai piqanotato na eidopoihsan kapoion thleoptiko staqmo. To eipa, prin. Kai fainetai oti eidopoihsan sygkekrimeno thleoptiko staqmo.

FOYRLHS: Qa ereynhsete eseis an eidopoihsan sygkekrimeno staqmo;

REPPAS: Na ereynhsoyme emeis an eidopoihsan thleoptiko staqmo; Einai diko toys qema. Den mas afora.

FOYRLHS: Qa ereynhsete, ean oxi ejw apo to jenodoxeio, alla mesa sto jenodoxeio kai sth synanthsh poy egine ypo thn aigida toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, htan parwn kai o ypallhlos toy sygkekrimenoy kanalioy;

REPPAS: Prepei na sas pw oti oi goneis hrqan synodeyomenoi apo kapoioys alloys polites, poy paroysiasan ws syggeneis toys. Oi polites aytoi eferan mazi toys ejarthmata, ajesoyar, kameres kai alla, ta opoia toys epetrepan na syllejoyn ayto to yliko. Apo ekei kai pera, einai qema diko toys. Dikh toys h prwtoboylia, dikh toys kai h eyqynh.

FOYRLHS: Giati apokryfthke epi 12 wres h yparjh ths kasetas apo to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn;

REPPAS: Den apokryfthke apolytws tipota. To ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, gia logoys poy ektimhsan oi armodioi paragontes toy, qewrhse pws den eprepe oi stigmes aytes na problhqoyn me tetoio tropo, gia logoys poy exoyn sxesh me thn prostasia toy paidioy kai twn gonewn, para to oti gnwrizete oti to gegonos ayto eyaisqhtopoihse thn koinh gnwmh. Alla, apo ekei kai pera, antilambaneste pws den htan mono oi paragontes toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn aytoi oi opoioi eneplakhsan se ayth thn ypoqesh. Htan oi goneis kai alloi, oi opoioi exoyn kai aytoi logo.

FOYRLHS: Symfwnoi, alla, afoy ayth h kaseta yphrxe apo th nyxta sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, giati ws tis tesseris to apogeyma den doqhke;

REPPAS: Giati oi armodioi toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn hqelan to yliko ayto, kat` arxas, gia dikh toys xrhsh, gia to arxeio toys. Den synelejan to yliko ayto, den apotypwsan tis stigmes, prokeimenoy na kanoyn argotera th dianomh stoys thleoptikoys staqmoys.

FOYRLHS: Nai, alla giati den eipan oti yparxei, estw, alla den qeloyme na th dwsoyme.

REPPAS: Den jerw poio einai to qema to opoio qetete. Gnwrizw oti yparxei -kai antilambanomai giati- mia enoxlhsh apo thleoptikoys staqmoys, epeidh ena sygkekrimeno kanali eixe ayto to yliko sth diaqesh toy. Apo ekei kai pera, omws, den prepei na fqanoyme mexri to shmeio na katadikazoyme toys kratikoys leitoyrgoys h na apodidoyme se aytoys proqeseis, poy den einai bebaio oti tis exoyn. Den prepei, omws, na parameinoyme se ayto to qema.

FOYRLHS: Qa mas peite thn eidikothta toy ypallhloy poy ekane ayth th magnhtoskophsh;

REPPAS: Nomizw oti einai sthn Yphresia Enhmerwshs toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn.

KARGOYDH: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh exei enhmerwqei epishmws apo tis kypriakes Arxes gia thn anabolh ths edw episkechs toy k. Klhridh, logw ths asqeneias toy.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti o Proedros ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias ypoballetai, ayrio, se egxeirhsh, sthn Kypro. Prepei na sas pw oti, xqes, o Prwqypoyrgos epikoinwnhse me thn oikogeneia toy Kyprioy Proedroy, prokeimenoy na ekfrasei tis eyxes toy gia thn poreia ths ygeias toy. Qa epikoinwnhsei kai pali ayrio, meta thn epembash. Gnwrizete oti, apo thn Kypro, exei anakoinwqei epishmws oti qa exoyme mia mikrh xronikh metaqesh twn drasthriothtwn stis opoies pairnei meros o Kyprios Proedros. Ayto einai logiko kai anamenomeno.

KARGOYDH: Ayth h metaqesh symperilambanei kai thn hmeromhnia enarjhs@

REPPAS: Symperilambanei ta panta. Ola ayta qa antimetwpistoyn meta thn peratwsh ths qerapeias sthn opoia qa ypoblhqei, meta thn epembash, o k. Klhridhs.

GARGALAKOS: Meta thn Ekqesh ths Komision, alla kai ths Eyrwpaikhs Kentrikhs Trapezas, qewreitai dedomenh h entajh ths xwras mas sthn ONE. Mhpws, omws, ayth h epityxia synodeyetai kai me desmeyseis gia litothta h gia perikopes se misqoys kai syntajeis;

REPPAS: H entajh ths xwras mas sthn ONE dhmioyrgei eyoiwnes prooptikes gia to mellon ths xwras, afoy ejasfalizei staqerothta, oikonomikh anaptyjh kai kalyteres synqhkes gia thn poiothta ths zwhs olwn twn politwn. Allwste, h zwh se mia anaptygmenh oikonomia, opws einai h oikonomia mias xwras poy einai entagmenh sthn ONE, den mporei na einai synwnymh ths litothtas. Kaqe allo. Qa elega oti pio swsta apodidei th zwh se mia anaptygmenh oikonomia h lejh ``eyhmeria''. Apo ekei kai pera, gnwrizete poly kala pws yparxoyn arxes kai kanones poy prepei kai emeis na sebastoyme. Prepei na proxwrhsoyme se diarqrwtikes allages, prokeimenoy na diathrhsoyme ychloys ryqmoys anaptyjhs sthn ellhnikh oikonomia, na katasthsoyme antagwnistikes tis ellhnikes epixeirhseis, na diasfalisoyme to eisodhma twn ergazomenwn. Pws qa poreyqoyme, thn epomenh periodo, ws xwra poy eimaste pleon isotimo melos sthn ONE, exei anaferqei stis Programmatikes Dhlwseis poy anakoinwse o Prwqypoyrgos, kaqws kai sto proeklogiko programma poy ejhggeile ston ellhniko lao. Kai bebaiws, ta eidikotera qemata, symperilambanontai sto epikairopoihmeno, opws leme, programma, to opoio egkriqhke ton prohgoymeno Febroyario apo to Symboylio Ypoyrgwn Oikonomikwn ths E.E. Ola ayta, loipon, einai gnwsta, einai katagrammena. Basei aytwn qa kinhqoyme. Den allazei tipota. Den dikaiologeitai ayth h anhsyxia. Me aformh thn erwthsh sas, moy dinete thn eykairia na prosqesw mono oti h N.D. paramenei se ena logo arnhtiko kai memcimoiro. Ayto apodeiknyei pws den exei didaxqei tipota. Qelei na skiasei ena poly shmantiko epiteygma ths xwras mas kai toy laoy mas. Ayth h stash einai politika adikaiologhth. H N.D. apodeiknyei pws den mporei kai den ajizei telika na einai kybernhsh.

BLAXOS: O ypallhlos toy YPEJ poy eixe thn kaseta, milwntas ston ALPHA, xqes, thlefwnika, dieykrinise oti den eide thn kaseta se binteo, alla eblepe thn kaseta otan ``traboyse''. Dhladh, den pistopoihse oti eixe trabhxtei h kaseta, giati den thn eide se binteo. Kai ton rwthse o dhmosiografos toy ALPHA kai to dieykrinise ayto. Esas, ws ypoyrgos Typoy, sas apasxolei to gegonos oti o kentrikos paroysiasths enos thleoptikoy staqmoy poy exei nomimh adeia, me emmeso, alla safestato tropo ekbiazei thn oikogeneia, bgazei ton astynomiko syntakth, anasyrei apo to arxeio stoixeia ths oikogeneias, afhnei ypainigmoys kai qetei qema leitoyrgias ths Dhmokratias sth xwra mas, epeidh epaqe mia dhmosiografikh ``gkafa''; H Dhmokratia apeileitai;

REPPAS: Oson afora to prwto qema poy qesate, den kanw kanena sxolio. Afoy eipe ayta o sygkekrimenos ypallhlos, etsi qa exoyn ta pragmata. Allwste, ayto den apotelei shmeio antidikias.

Oson afora to deytero qema ths leitoyrgias twn thleoptikwn staqmwn sth xwra mas, qigete to mega qema ths deontologias, thn opoia prepei na sebontai kai na throyn, idiaiterws oi thleoptikoi staqmoi. Ta qemata ayta, omws, empiptoyn sthn armodiothta toy ESR. An pragmatika exoyme mia yperbash twn kanonwn deontologias, pisteyw oti to armodio organo qa epilhfqei.

FOYRLHS: Me plhroforoyn, molis twra, oti sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn janaphge to zeygari to prwi, xwris to paidi@

REPPAS: Den exw apolytws kanena logo na krinw tis epiloges kai tis apofaseis poy pairnoyn oi armodies yphresies enos ypoyrgeioy.

FOYRLHS: To rwtw, giati epikalesthkate, gia xqes brady, cyxologikoys logoys toy paidioy, oi opoioi shmera den yphrxan. Ara, giati den mas enhmerwsate@

REPPAS: Den nomizw oti kaqe fora poy ginetai mia epikoinwnia, qa prepei na enhmerwnontai ta MME.

FOYRLHS: Pali ena kanali enhmerwqhke, k. Ypoyrge.

REPPAS: Parakalw, mhn perimenete apo mena na ginw troxonomos kai diaithths enos antagwnismoy o opoios, sto plaisio ths eygenoys amillas, einai paradektos, alla entos twn oriwn.

FOYRLHS: Pws phge sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn to kanali;

REPPAS: Parakalw, na apeyqynqeite stis armodies yphresies toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn gia na exete perissoteres plhrofories. Yphresies Enhmerwshs - Typoy exoyn ola ta ypoyrgeia. Apeyqynqeite armodiws. Oson afora thn enhmerwsh twn politwn, asfalws, qa prepei na throyntai oi kanones. Ta MME apoteloyn shmantikoys paragontes poy symballoyn sthn enhmerwsh twn politwn kai qewrw aytonohth kai dedomenh th synergasia twn armodiwn Yphresiwn Enhmerwshs kai Typoy twn kratikwn organismwn kai twn ypoyrgeiwn me ta MME ths xwras mas. Ayth th synergasia th qewrw dedomenh kai prepei na einai adiataraxth.

KOLIOPOYLOY: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean epibebaiwnete shmerino dhmosieyma, symfwna me to opoio to porisma gia to atyxhma toy FALCON qa bgei apo tis roymanikes Arxes, thn epomenh ebdomada kai sygkekrimena stis 10 toy mhnos.

REPPAS: Emeis apo thn prwth stigmh eipame oti qeloyme na ginoyn systhmatikes ereynes, na xyqei apleto fws se ayto to tragiko symban kai na apodoqoyn eyqynes se osoys tis exoyn. Qa anamenoyme, giati efqase pleon h stigmh, apo thn pleyra twn roymanikwn Arxwn, to sxetiko porisma. Ayth thn wra, den exw ypoch moy sygkekrimenes hmeromhnies. Pisteyw, omws, oti eimaste entos ths periodoy sthn opoia qa prepei to porisma ayto na doqei, prokeimenoy na gnwrisoyme poio einai to apotelesma twn ereynwn poy ekanan oi roymanikes yphresies.

Sas eyxaristw.

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