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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 20 Martioy 2000

YPOYRGO TYPOY ARGYRH FATOYRO

O aperxomenos Ypoyrgos Typoy kai MME & Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos Dhmhtrhs Reppas, paredwse shmera to meshmeri ston yphresiako Ypoyrgo Typoy, kaqhghth Argyrh Fatoyro.

O k. Reppas, sth syntomh omilia toy, tonise ta ejhs:

``H 22 Ianoyarioy toy 1996 kai h 20 Martioy toy 2000, mia xronikh periodos poy orioqeteitai apo aytes tis dyo hmeromhnies, mikrh, ena pollosthmorio toy istorikoy xronoy, einai taytoxrona mia periodos poly megalh gia emena proswpika. Oxi mono giati askhsa politika kaqhkonta se mia neyralgikh qesh olh ayth thn periodo, alla kyriws -etsi to noiwqw- giati askwntas ta kaqhkonta moy apekthsa mia sxesh me to diko sas leitoyrghma kai esas proswpika poy pera apo yphresiakh-epaggelmatikh h politikh, egine biwmatikh. Poia einai pio shmantikh, isws; H hmera poy anelaba kaqhkonta, pisteyontas oti exw xreos na antimetwpisw problhmata, prokeimenoy h wra toy apologismoy na einai wra eykolh gia mena h h wra poy paradidw kaqhkonta, exontas gnwsh kai epignwsh twn problhmatwn kai twn dyskoliwn; Ara, exontas synaisqhsh kai gi ayto, akribws, didagmenos pleon apo thn peira poy apokomisa tosa xronia edw, na eimai shmera pio semnos kai pio synetos para pote.

Bebaiws, h megalyterh stigmh gia enan politiko einai h stigmh ekeinh poy apotypwnetai h laikh kyriarxia, oi ekloges. Parathrw shmeiologika oti paredwsa kai anelaba panta se periodoys eklogikwn anametrhsewn. Gi ayto qa moy epitrecete, diekdikwntas thn epaneklogh moy, na eyxaristhsw kat` arxas toys polites poy me timoyn me thn chfo toys, poy moy dinoyn th dynamh na toys ekproswpw. Me sthrijan kai me sthrizoyn se mia poreia, sthn opoia oi dyskolies, faneres kai afaneis, einai polles. Noiwqw thn anagkh na timhsw, ayth thn wra th mnhmh toy Andrea Papandreoy. Toy politikoy poy sfragise thn poreia ths xwras, alla kai th dikh mas zwh. Ws politikh paroysia yphrje to shmeio anaforas gia thn entajh pollwn apo mas se ayth th gohteytikh diadikasia. Ofeilw na eyxaristhsw kai na ekfrasw thn eygnwmosynh moy ston Prwqypoyrgo ths xwras Kwsta Shmith, giati moy empisteyqhke se mia krisimh periodo ayta ta kaqhkonta. Kai dhlwnontas pisth kai afosiwsh sto Kinhma poy anhkw, na dhlwsw oti paramenw strateymenos sto pleyro toy, giati pisteyw oti o Kwstas Shmiths ekfrazei ayqentika kai plhrws to aithma twn kairwn gia mia Ellada isxyrh, poy exei dieqnes kyros kai dynamh, gia mia koinwnia poy proodeyei, gia ena lao, o opoios moxqei, epitygxanei apotelesmata kai noiwqei yperhfanos gia ta epityxh apotelesmata twn prospaqeiwn toy. Kai bebaia na eyxaristhsw esas, giati pisteyw oti ayth h kaqhmerinh epikoinwnia mas, ayth thn wra, yphrje gia mena kaqhmerinh askhsh eyqynhs. Sebasthka -kai xairomai poy ki eseis deijate pws sebeste to idio- ena basiko stoixeio sthn politikh kai sthn enhmerwsh poy einai h diafora. ``Den qa ajize na hmastan perissoteroi, ean den hmastan diaforetikoi''. Einai mia frash toy Prwqypoyrgoy, thn opoia epikaloymai kai th qewrw pollh shmantikh kai shmadiakh.

Qelw na timhsw kai ta alla politika kommata, toys koinwnikoys foreis, toys leitoyrgoys poy exoyn mia krisimh koinwnikh apostolh na epitelesoyn, gia to oti synebalan kai symballoyn, me to diko toys tropo, sthn eyryqmh leitoyrgia twn qesmwn ths Ellhnikhs Dhmokratias.

Egw yperaspisthka thn politikh ths kybernhshs mas kai prospaqhsa se ayto to gignesqai na katagracw prajeis kai qeseis, prokeimenoy etsi mesa apo ton antilogo kai th synqesh, na symballw sthn proodo poy oloi epidiwkoyme kaqenas me to diko toy tropo. Einai alhqeia oti o ypoyrgos Typoy kai MME adikeitai apo thn taytish sto idio proswpo toy kybernhtikoy ekproswpoy poy ek twn pragmatwn ejasfalizei ypermetrh probolh. Ws ypoyrgos Typoy ayth thn wra toy apologismoy (s.s. to keimeno apologismoy qa sas dianemhqei), den qa meinw poly se ayto, sto ergo poy kaname ayta ta xronia. Epishmainw idiaiterws thn prospaqeia mas gia ton eksygxronismo toy Ypoyrgeioy, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisei tis anagkes poy prokyptoyn sthn koinwnia twn plhroforiwn. Anaferomai sthn idrysh ths Genikhs Grammateias Enhmerwshs, poy ws neo organo apo to kalokairi toy 1996, synebale apofasistika sthn anadeijh kai dieqnh probolh twn qesewn ths xwras mas. Epishs, qelw na tonisw me emfash thn terastia prospaqeia poy kaname, me bash to triptyxo nomimothta-diafaneia -poiothta, sto xwro twn hlektronikwn Meswn Enhmerwshs, allote me bhmata h kai almata, allote me elleiceis, kaqysterhseis kai adynamies. Pantws, pisteyw oti oloklhrwnontas to qesmiko plaisio kai exontas qesei se efarmogh ta pio shmantika shmeia toy plaisioy aytoy dikaiologeitai h aisiodojia gia to mellon, oson afora th leitoyrgia twn hlektronikwn Meswn Enhmerwshs sthn patrida mas. Anaferomai sto ESR poy me polloys tropoys, para ta kata kairoys problhmata, anabaqmisame. Kai bebaia, se oloys toys organismoys poy leitoyrgoyn ypo thn epopteia toy Ypoyrgeioy, periorizomai na epishmanw thn terastia allagh poy petyxame sthn Ellhnikh Radiofwnia-Thleorash. H dhmosia radiothleorash leitoyrgei me bash sygkekrimeno, pleon, epixeirhsiako sxedio. Einai enas foreas o opoios se poly liga moiazei me to forea poy gnwrizame liga

xronia prin.

Kyries kai kyrioi, files kai filoi, pantote oi problhmatismoi gia tis sxeseis ths politikhs me ta MME einai epikairoi. H epoxh toy Goytembergioy einai poly makrinh pleon. Exoyn eisbalei sth zwh mas ta hlektronika Mesa Enhmerwshs, to mikrofwno kai h kamera. Perasame apo thn ideolhptikh sthn eikonolhptikh antilhch gia thn enhmerwsh. Xrhsimopoiw, apo to teleytaio toy biblio, mia frash toy Ramone: ``Pragmati, h politikh paroysiazetai ws sygkroysh stelexwn, afoy ayth th sygkroysh stelexwn, proswpwn, dhladh, mporei na katagracei h kamera kai oxi ws sygkroysh idewn kai qesewn poy den mporei mia kamera na anaparasthsei''. Kai olo kai perissotero h sxesh ths politikhs me toys polites, kaqws paremballontai ta MME, h ekbash twn pragmatwn krinetai kai kaqorizetai se megalo baqmo perissotero apo ton politiko kai thn ikanothta toy na yperaspizetai tis opoies qeseis, para apo thn ajia, to periexomeno aytwn twn idiwn twn qesewn kai twn idewn, twn opoiwn einai foreas enas politikos. Ayth einai mia terastia allagh poy kanei to diko sas ergo poly pio shmantiko. Megalwnei th dikh sas eyqynh, prokeimenoy na prosferete antikeimenikh enhmerwsh stoys Ellhnes polites.

Kleinontas, qa hqela na eyxaristhsw toys synergates moy me toys opoioys poreyqhkame mazi ola ayta ta xronia. Ton Niko Aqanasakh, toy opoioy h paroysia sto xwro twn MME, exei parei pleon qesmiko xarakthra. Ton Giannh Nikolaoy, poy exei th xara kai thn yperhfaneia na einai prwtoporos, afoy aytos anoije to dromo, ws epikefalhs ths neas Genikhs Grammateias Enhmerwshs, se ena tomea opoy mexri tote h xwra mas paroysiaze terastia elleimmata. Qelw na eyxaristhsw ola ta stelexh kai to proswpiko toy Ypoyrgeioy, kaqws kai toys idiaiteroys synergates moy, oi opoioi anagnwrisan thn ajia ths prospaqeias poy kaname kai staqhkan sto pleyro moy. Prepei na pw oti hsastan poly eygeneis giati anagnwrisate thn ajia ths prospaqeias poy ekana. Ayto den to jexnw.

Eimai tyxeros giati paradidw se enan anqrwpo me dieqnes kyros, mia proswpikothta poy tima th xwra mas, ton kaqhghth Argyrh Fatoyro. O k. Fatoyros einai enas paragontas ths dhmosias zwhs, o opoios exei dwsei oxi deigmata, alla oloklhrwmenh grafh me to ergo toy se krisimoys tomeis. H paroysia toy edw, pisteyw oti antikatoptrizei to endiaferon ths Politeias, prokeimenoy h proeklogikh periodos na oloklhrwqei symfwna me toys oroys kai toys kanones poy armozoyn se mia dhmokratikh koinwnia.

Pisteyw oti kai me bash to plaisio poy apofasisame, to opoio beltiwnei shmantika ta ews twra isxyonta gia ton tropo me ton opoio diejagontai oi eklogikes anametrhseis, o ypoyrgos k. Argyrhs Fatoyros qa einai h koryfaia eggyhsh gia thn isotimh probolh kommatwn, thn isotimh anadeijh olwn twn apocewn apo ta MME kata thn proeklogikh periodo, prokeimenoy o ellhnikos laos, proserxomenos sthn kalph na exei sxhmatisei plhrh gnwmh gia tis qeseis twn kommatwn kai twn ypochfiwn.

Me ayth thn ennoia, niwqw tyxeros giati sth qesh ayth akoloyqei enas megalos episthmonas, me anagnwrish kai taytoxrona giati, ws ypoyrgos Typoy, o megalos episthmonas kaqhghths Argyrhs Fatoyros eggyatai thn antikeimenikh kai dhmokratikh oloklhrwsh twn prospaqeiwn poy ki eseis qa kanete ki emeis ws ypochfioi, prokeimenoy na enhmerwsoyme to lao kai na kerdisoyme kai pali thn empistosynh toy.

Eyxomai, proswpika ston kaqena, o,ti epiqymei, arkei na mhn epiqymeite kati to opoio einai se baros ths prospaqeias poy kanoyme ki emeis me tis ekloges! Kai, bebaiws, opws elega pantote, egw qa fygw apo edw, eseis qa eiste edw. Eyxomai na makrohmereysete kai na ``katanalwsete'' polloys ypoyrgoys akomh.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

O neos yphresiakos Ypoyrgos Typoy Argyrhs Fatoyros, analambanontas, shmera, ta kaqhkonta toy eipe ta ejhs:

``Kyrie Ypoyrge, sas eyxaristw poly gia tis kales koybentes poy eipate. Meta ta qerma politika logia sas, niwqw oti h dikia moy paroysia einai kat` anagkhn axrwmh, an oxi ``jeplymenh''. Dioti, bebaia, ayth h doyleia thn opoia qa prospaqhsw na kanw tis epomenes treis ebdomades -eytyxws einai syntomh h diarkeia- einai antifatikh. H kybernhsh, opws poly kala jerete, den exei allajei. Allazei enas ypoyrgos. Allazei enas ypoyrgos, omws, pio shmadiaka apo oti otan allazei enas politikos me allon politiko ypoyrgo, alla den jerei kaneis akribws ti shmainei ayto to ``shmadiaka''. H doyleia moy, profanws, einai na diasfalisw ayto poy oles oi ryqmiseis poy exoyn ginei se diafora epipeda, apo to nomoqetiko mexri tis symfwnies twn kommatwn k.t.l., exoyn hdh prospaqhsei na orisoyn. An yparxei mia doyleia opoy to idewdes aytoy poy thn ektelei einai na mh xreiazetai na thn kanei, einai ayth edw poy qa kanw egw, ws yphresiakos ypoyrgos. Dioti nomizw oti h xrhsimothta toy yphresiakoy ypoyrgoy exei meiwqei kata poly apo ta xronia poy qymamai egw, otan allaze oloklhrh h kybernhsh kai ginotan yphresiakh gia tis ekloges. To idewdes qa htan na leitoyrgoyn oi qesmoi kai oi mhxanismoi me tetoio tropo, wste na mhn yparxei zhthma antikatastashs toy ypoyrgoy. Etsi, me ayth thn aisqhsh mias doyleias, h opoia einai dyskolh kai thn opoia fobamai, alla h opoia qa eprepe na einai axrhsth apo th meria, toylaxiston, ths mh politikhs ths diaxeirishs, arxizw aytes tis liges meres, zhtwntas th dikh sas bohqeia kai symparastash, wste na mporesoyme na proxwrhsoyme stis ekloges hrema, opws hdh exoyme arxisei. Syxna akoyme kapoion na leei ``etyxe na breqw sto Parisi h se allh polh ths Dytikhs Eyrwphs kai na exoyn ekloges meqayrio kai oyte poy to katalaba''. Den einai akribws to idio edw kai den eimai sigoyros oti qa hqela na einai akribws to idio. Alla, apo to ena meros, exoyn hremhsei poly ta pragmata, apo oti prin apo merikes dekaeties -toylaxiston, apo oso qymamai ligo pio pisw apo toys pio polloys apo sas- kai ayto nomizw einai qetiko. Apo to allo meros, ti akribws qa mporw na kanw egw poy den qa mporoyse na to kanei o politikos ypoyrgos se ayth th qesh, peran apo to oti ton eleyqerwnw gia na mporei na katebei sthn perifereia toy, pragma poy qa toy htan dyskolo an eixe thn kaqhmerinh enhmerwsh. Gi` ayto den eimai sigoyros, qa to maqw ki egw tis epomenes hmeres poy akoloyqoyn.

Qa prepei na jekaqarisoyme kapws pws qa leitoyrgoyn ta pragmata aytes tis 20 hmeres poy apomenoyn. Den eimai sigoyros p.x. oti h kaqhmerinh enhmerwsh einai aparaithth, me dedomeno oti h dikh moy doyleia, den einai akribws na proaspizomai kommatikes qeseis. Oxi politikes qeseis. Politikh kanoyme oloi mas. Prospaqw na diakrinw pantote anamesa sto politiko kai to kommatiko. Den einai to idio akribws. Qa doyme pws qa leitoyrghsoyn ta pragmata. Epimenw oti qelw th bohqeia kai th symparastash sas, dioti apo ayth qa mporesei kati na prokycei. Den xreiazetai na pw oti, se periptwsh krishs, an xreiastw th bohqeia sas, qa thn epikalestw. Na mhn yparjei, dhladh, krish gia na me bohqhsete, an xreiastei. Mesa stis epomenes hmeres qa jekaqarisoyme ligo perissotero ton tropo me ton opoio qa leitoyrgoyme olo ayto ton kairo. Oi ryqmiseis, idiaitera twn thleoptikwn Meswn, einai leptomereis, mexri ena baqmo akribeias, poy den jerw kata poso mporei pote na diasfalistei. Alla, to kyrio qema einai, sto telos ayths ths istorias, na exei meinei mia aisqhsh oti den adikhqhke yperbolika kanenas, kamia paratajh, kanena komma, kanenas ypochfios. Kai oti, opote dhmioyrghqhke kapoio problhma, breqhke kai enas tropos gia na antimetwpistei.

Epanalambanw, loipon -to jerete, hdh, ayto apo syntopith, Arkada ki ayton, estw ki an den einai apo to kalytero meros ths Arkadias, th Gortynia, einai apo thn Kynoyria, alla kai ekei exw rizes- oti den mporw na para na exw idiaiterh eyxaristhsh gi` ayto. Na sas xairethsw gia shmera. Na eyxaristhsw kai egw ton Prwqypoyrgo poy moy edeije thn empistosynh toy, zhtwntas moy na yphrethsw se ayth th qesh. Elpizw na apodeixqei oti se ayto, toylaxiston, eixe dikio.

Eyxaristw''.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qelw na pw dyo logia: Pisteyw oti @kalyptw kai toys synadelfoys- eisaste o makrobioteros Ypoyrgos Typoy-Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos edw. Mporei na eixame kapoies antiparaqeseis, mporei na eixame kapoies gkrinies. Prepei na gnwrizete, omws, oti den htan proswpikes. Pisteyw oti ayto poy ginotan kaqe mera htan gia to kalo ths enhmerwshs. Emeis prospaqoysame na bgaloyme kati, eseis prospaqoysate na kalycete kapoia kybernhtika stelexh. Aytos einai o axaros rolos toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy. Qa qelame na sas eyxhqoyme ``kalh epityxia kai kalh dynamh''. Kai sto neo Ypoyrgo, ton k. Argyrh Fatoyro, qa hqela na pw oti h enhmerwsh qa ginetai kaqe mera. Mporei eseis na mhn exete na mas peite, qa exoyme emeis na rwthsoyme. Gi` ayto prepei h enhmerwsh na synexistei gyrw apo ta qemata poy qa xeirizeste eseis kai symfwna me tis armodiothtes sas. Den qa syzhtame gia politikes h kybernhtikes h kommatikes qeseis. Mono gia tis armodiothtes poy exete analabei, giati opwsdhpote pisteyw oti qa prokycoyn zhthmata.

Kyrie Reppa, sas eyxomaste kai pali ``kalh dynamh''.

REPPAS: Sas eyxaristw poly.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epishs, sas eyxaristoyme gia th synergasia poy eixame.

REPPAS: Egw eyxaristw para poly. Me kanate poly kalytero.

FATOYROS: Oso gia to teleytaio poy eipate, na pw aplws oti qa hqela ena mikro diasthma na enhmerwqw. Skefthka na zhthsw ena diasthma triwn ebdomadwn (!), alla fantasthka oti ayto to diasthma qa htan idiaitera megalo, alla as poyme mia - dyo hmeres kai blepoyme.

SOYRMELH: Symmerizomenh ki egw, ws jenos antapokriths, tis apoceis toy synadelfoy kai ola osa eipe, qa hqela na sas ypenqymisw, k. Ypoyrge -apeyqynomai sto neo Ypoyrgo- oti sigoyra h kaqhmerinh enhmerwsh einai anagkaia, dioti peran twn kommatikwn problhmatwn kai twn eklogwn yparxoyn kai oi ejwterikes sxeseis ths Elladas poy den stamatane. Ypo ayth thn ennoia, se ayth thn apofash sas, qa sas parakaloysa na ejetastei kai ayth h apoch.

REPPAS: Kai pali sas eyxaristoyme poly.

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