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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 18 Febroyarioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS

ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Qa hqela, prin dextw tis erwthseis sas, na kanw eisagwgikws ena sxolio gia to qema poy syzhteitai tis teleytaies hmeres:

Gnwrizete poly kala oti to Syntagma ths xwras mas epifylassei diaforetikh metaxeirish ston Typo, se sxesh me ta hlektronika Mesa Enhmerwshs. Kata to arqro 14 toy Syntagmatos, o Typos einai eleyqeros. Kata to arqro 15 toy Syntagmatos, paragrafos 2, oi radiothleoptikoi staqmoi ypagontai ston ameso elegxo toy kratoys. Pisteyw oti h ciqyrologia twn teleytaiwn hmerwn kai h dhmioyrgia synqhkwn genikeymenhs sygxyshs kai telikws kaxypocias enantion proswpwn kai omadwn, apodiarqrwnoyn th bash ths koinwnias mas. Metatrepei mia syntetagmenh Politeia -me arxes, me kanones, me organa- se mia anarxh zoygkla. Ayth h katastash den mporei na ginei anekth. Ta armodia organa, opws en prokeimenw to Eqniko Symboylio Radiothleorashs, exoyn to logo.

Qa moy epitrecete, gia kalyterh dikh sas enhmerwsh, na anaferqw me perissoteres leptomereies sto isxyon nomiko plaisio, giati diapistwnw oti para polloi, oxi mono aploi polites ayths ths xwras, agnooyn pws to nomiko plaisio ths xwras, toso apo apoch ektashs kai plhrothtas, oso kai apo apoch aysthrothtas twn ryqmisewn, einai eparkes kai apotelei mia poly kalh bash gia thn antimetwpish tetoiwn fainomenwn.

Oi basikoi nomoi stoys opoioys periexontai oi ryqmiseis aytes, einai o 2328/1995 kai o 2644/1998. Ypenqymizw oti sto Symboylio ths Epikrateias exei apostalei apo meroys mas gia epejergasia kai prokeitai syntoma na ekdoqei -einai qema ligwn hmerwn- sxedio Proedrikoy Diatagmatos, me to opoio enarmonizoyme thn ellhnikh nomoqesia pros thn koinotikh. Se ayto to Proedriko Diatagma, metajy twn allwn, perilambanontai diatajeis poy aforoyn kai thn prostasia ths idiwtikhs zwhs twn politwn.

Pio sygkekrimena: o N. 2328/1995 sto arqro 3, par. 1, periptwsh b@, leei: ``Oi kaqe eidoys ekpompes, symperilambanomenwn kai twn diafhmisewn, poy metadidoyn oi radiofwnikoi kai thleoptikoi staqmoi, prepei na sebontai thn proswpikothta, thn timh, thn ypolhch, ton idiwtiko kai oikogeneiako bio, thn epaggelmatikh, koinwnikh, episthmonikh, kallitexnikh, politikh h allh synafh drasthriothta kaqe proswpoy, h eikona toy opoioy emfanizetai sthn oqonh h to onoma toy opoioy h stoixeia eparkh gia ton prosdiorismo toy opoioy metadidontai''. Edw orizetai to plaisio, to opoio apotelei antikeimeno ryqmisewn. En synexeia, sto idio arqro, sthn par. 12, anaferetai oti ``kaqe proswpo toy opoioy h proswpikothta, h timh h h ypolhch h o idiwtikos kai oikogeneiakos bios h h epaggelmatikh, koinwnikh, episthmonikh, kallitexnikh, politikh h allh synafhs drasthriothta prosballetai apo thleoptikh h radiofwnikh ekpomph, o syzygos kai oi syggeneis, mexri tetartoy baqmoy, nekroy h mnhmh toy opoioy prosballetai, kaqws kai o nomimos ekproswpos nomikoy proswpoy toy opoioy prosballetai h fhmh, to epixeirhmatiko symferon, dikaioytai na zhthsei epanorqwsh toy staqmoy poy metedwse thn epimaxh ekpomph mesa se apokleistikh proqesmia deka hmerwn apo th metadosh h thn anametadosh ths ekpomphs''. Akoloyqei olh h diadikasia -anaferetai edw me kaqe leptomereia- h opoia, se aytes tis periptwseis, dinei apanthsh sto sxetiko qema.

O N.2328/1995 -kai erxomai twra sto qema twn kyrwsewn- sto arqro 4, anaferetai se aytes tis kyrwseis tis opoies, ypenqymizw, employtisame me to N.2644, o opoios dhmosieyqhke ton Oktwbrio toy 1998 kai ektote isxyei. Sto nomo ayto, poy afora tis syndromhtikes radiothleoptikes yphresies, epanalambanoyme tis kyrwseis toy N.2328, tis opoies, janalew, exoyme employtisei me neoy eidoys kyrwseis. Epishs, ypenqymizw oti me to nomo ayto, ton 2644/1998, dwsame th dynatothta sto ESR na epilambanetai aytepaggeltws tetoiwn qematwn, xwris na xreiazetai, dhladh, prohgoymenws -opws proeblepe to palaiotero kaqestws toy N.2328- erwthma apo ton armodio ypoyrgo. Symfwna, loipon, me ta osa problepontai sto arqro 16 toy N.2644, aytepaggeltws mporei na apofasizei to ESR gia thn epibolh mias h perissoterwn apo tis parakatw kyrwseis:

Systash gia symmorfwsh se sygkekrimenh diatajh ths nomoqesias, me proeidopoihsh epibolhs loipwn kyrwsewn.

Prostimo apo pente ews 500 ekatommyria draxmes, poy eisprattetai kata tis diatajeis toy Kwdika Eisprajhs Dhmosiwn Esodwn (KEDE).

Proswrinh anastolh, mexri treis mhnes h oristikh diakoph ths metadoshs sygkekrimenhs ekpomphs toy staqmoy (Ayth h kyrwsh, gia prwth fora, perilambanetai sto neo nomo).

Proswrinh anastolh, mexri treis mhnes, ths metadoshs kaqe thleoptikoy programmatos.

Anaklhsh ths adeias leitoyrgias toy staqmoy.

Epishs, perilambanontai -kai ayth einai mia nea ryqmish- kyrwseis hqikoy periexomenoy, opws h ypoxrewsh metadoshs anakoinwshs sxetika me tis loipes epiballomenes kyrwseis. To ESR metabibazei amellhti thn apofash toy ayth ston ypoyrgo Typoy kai MME, o opoios, meta apo elegxo nomimothtas, ekdidei thn prajh epibolhs ths sxetikhs kyrwshs.

Epishs, me to N.2644, qymizw oti problecame, sto arqro 15, par. 3, th dynatothta o Proedros toy ESR na mporei, se epeigoysa periptwsh profanoys parabiashs ths radiothleoptikhs nomoqesias, na diatassei thn anabolh h th diakoph metadoshs toy sygkekrimenoy radiofwnikoy h thleoptikoy programmatos. H sxetikh apofash toy Proedroy toy ESR koinopoieitai me ton pio prosforo tropo sto forea poy katexei thn adeia gia th metadosh toy programmatos aytoy. Dikhn asfalistikwn metrwn, mporei o Proedros toy ESR, ws monoproswpo pleon organo, na epibalei th diakoph h thn anabolh sygkekrimenoy programmatos radiofwnikoy h thleoptikoy staqmoy.

Epishs, sto sxedio toy P.D. poy exoyme prowqhsei pros to Symboylio ths Epikrateias, metajy twn allwn, problepontai diatajeis, sto arqro 8, poy aforoyn thn prostasia twn anhlikwn kai th shmansh radiothleoptikwn ekpompwn. Sto arqro 9, oson afora to dikaiwma epanorqwshs, anaferontai me kaqe leptomereia oles oi diadikasies poy akoloyqoyntai, se periptwsh poy ena proswpo qewrei oti qigetai h proswpikothta, h timh, h ypolhch, o idiwtikos kai oikogeneiakos bios toy k.t.l. Ayto deixnei oti to isxyon nomiko plaisio -epanalambanw- apotelei mia poly kalh bash, wste na antimetwpisoyme fainomena, ta opoia kata thn apoch twn armodiwn arxwn, dhmioyrgoyn problhmata nomikhs fyshs. Ola ayta isxyoyn parallhlws me tis diatajeis toy genikoy poinikoy dikaioy, symfwna me tis opoies epiballontai aysthres kyrwseis se periptwsh poy diaprattetai to adikhma ths sykofantikhs dysfhmishs. Kai ekei, me ejairetikes diadikasies -problepetai ayto sto N.2328- tetoioy eidoys ypoqeseis qa prepei na ekdikazontai se syntomotato xroniko diasthma. Entos mhnos, epishs, prepei na ekdidontai oi apofaseis twn Dikasthriwn epi twn sxetikwn agwgwn apozhmiwshs. Epishs, gia thn prosbolh ths proswpikothtas apo ta hlektronika Mesa Enhmerwshs problepetai xrhmatikh apozhmiwsh, to elaxisto ycos ths opoias einai 100 ekatommyria draxmes. Ola ayta -kai den anaferomai, para mono sta kentrika shmeia twn diatajewn poy hdh isxyoyn- apodeiknyoyn pws, se qesmiko epipedo, me to nomiko ayto oplostasio, exoyme qwrakisei th xwra mas. Yparxoyn ta organa poy prepei na epilambanontai tetoiwn qematwn, prokeimenoy na pairnoyn tis swstes apofaseis.

Opws gnwrizete, o Prwqypoyrgos aphyqyne shmera xairetismo sto Synedrio ths Eqnikhs Synomospondias Atomwn me Eidikes Anagkes kai ayth thn wra, proedreyei se syskech me ypoyrgoys toy oikonomikoy epiteleioy kai ton ypoyrgo Gewrgias, gia qemata armodiothtas toys.

Sas qymizw oti ayrio o Prwqypoyrgos qa metabei sth Qrakh, opoy qa episkefqei ergotajia poy exoyn egkatastaqei gia thn kataskeyh ths Egnatias Odoy. Qa egkainiasei tmhmata ths Egnatias Odoy poy dinontai, pleon, stoys polites pros xrhsh. Qa episkefqei, epishs, sthn Komothnh, tis egkatastaseis ths monadas fysikoy aerioy. To brady, qa oloklhrwsei thn episkech toy me politikh omilia sto kleisto gymnasthrio ths Janqhs.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Efoson yparxei to nomiko plaisio kai exete qwrakisei, opws lete, giati bgazete ayto to Proedriko Diatagma;

REPPAS: To Proedriko Diatagma afora thn enarmonish ths ellhnikhs nomoqesias me thn eyrwpaikh. Epanalambanei, sto megalytero meros toy ryqmiseis oi opoies isxyan sto parelqon. Apla, exei symplhrwseis kai beltiwseis, opws akribws epiballei h empeiria poy exoyme apokthsei, sto metajy, apo thn efarmogh twn palaioterwn diatajewn, pragma poy exei ginei kai se alles xwres ths E.E. Ta keimena einai sth diaqesh sas kai an ta melethsete qa deite oti einai paromoia kai exoyn, bebaiws, beltiwseis. Logiko einai allwste, se kaqe neotero keimeno na lambanetai ypoch h peira poy exei apokthqei, gia na einai kalytero apo ta prohgoymena.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayto to Proedriko Diatagma to exete syzhthsei me toys endiaferomenoys foreis;

REPPAS: Bebaiws. Einai apotelesma doyleias pollwn mhnwn. Eixan apostalei epistoles se oloys toys endiaferomenoys gia na diatypwsoyn tis apoceis toys. Den to ekanan oloi. Exei syzhthqei kai einai -epanalambanw- sto plaisio to opoio isxyei sthn E.E. Exei ekdoqei, edw kai kairo, h koinotikh odhgia. Kai se ayto to plaisio enarmonizetai kai h dikh mas eswterikh nomoqesia. Den exei, pantws, diatajeis oi opoies einai pio aysthres, apo aytes poy exoyn chfistei apo thn ellhnikh Boylh kai symperilambanontai se nomoys, oi opoioi isxyoyn, prin diatypwqei ayto to Proedriko Diatagma. Giati, prepei na sas oti ston tomea ayto, h ellhnikh nomoqesia einai pio aysthrh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sas exei apanthsei h POEDY kai h ESHEA;

REPPAS: Polloi epaggelmatikoi kai koinwnikoi foreis exoyn diatypwsei tis apoceis toys gi ayta ta qemata. Alloi exoyn symfwnhsei, alloi einai pio sygkrathmenoi, alloi den exoyn apanthsei kaqoloy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sas rwtw sygkekrimena gi aytoys toys dyo@

REPPAS: Den mporw na gnwrizw twra ti apanthse kaqe foreas. Einai qema to opoio syzhteitai panw apo dyo xronia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oi pio endiaferomenoi foreis einai, k. Ypoyrge. Stoys dhmosiografoys apeyqynetai, aytoys qelete na fimwsete@

REPPAS: Kanete poly megalo laqos. Oydeis fimwnetai. Kai mh prospaqeite na dhmioyrghsete ayth thn entypwsh, giati gnwrizete oti mallon gelio prokalei kaqe isxyrismos oti sthn Ellada fimwnontai oi dhmosiografoi. An deite ti grafetai stis efhmerides, ti proballetai apo toys radiothleoptikoys staqmoys, qa exete labei, hdh, thn apanthsh. Mh lete, loipon, oti sthn Ellada fimwnontai oi dhmosiografoi, giati kati tetoio den symbainei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Blepoyme kai to ti mhnyseis ginontai apo ypoyrgoys. Kai poy blepete to ``geloio''

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti h sykofantikh dysfhmish, ws adikhma, timwreitai. Oles oi syntetagmenes politeies me sygkekrimenh ennomh tajh, sta agaqa poy prostateyoyn einai, metajy twn allwn, kai h perifroyrhsh ths proswpikothtas kai ths ajioprepeias toy atomoy. Oyai kai alimono, ean ola ayta ta diagracoyme. Den yparxei kapoios panw apo to nomo. Oydeis. Eite einai ypoyrgos, eite einai dhmosiografos. Opoiosdhpote. Oloi oi polites apenanti sto nomo exoyn isa dikaiwmata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oxi! Oi ypoyrgoi exoyn asylia.

REPPAS: To Syntagma ths xwras prepei na ginetai sebasto. Lypoymai poy den to sebeste. Bebaiws, sto plaisio twn syzhthsewn poy qa ginoyn kata thn 1h Synodo ths epomenhs Boylhs, metajy twn allwn, qa antimetwpistoyn kai tetoia qemata. Giati gnwrizete oti exoyn teqei pros syzhthsh tetoia qemata.

MIXAHL: Oles aytes oi diatajeis poy problepontai se ayta ta nomoqethmata..

REPPAS: Oxi ``problepontai''. Isxyoyn.

MIXAHL: Ayta poy isxyoyn kai ayta poy qa isxysoyn me to Proedriko Diatagma, ean protiqeste sth nea Boylh na ta prowqhsete kai se syntagmatikh metarryqmish;

REPPAS: Den einai dynaton oles aytes oi ryqmiseis na symperilhfqoyn ws diatajeis toy Syntagmatos. Asfalws, omws, apoteloyn stoixeia toy nomikoy plaisioy poy isxyei sth xwra mas. Kai bebaiws, efarmozontai.

MIXAHL: Sas rwtw, kat` analogia, toy arqroy 14.

REPPAS: Ta arqra 14 kai 15 paramenoyn ws exoyn. O Typos einai eleyqeros. Kai gnwrizete oti ayth einai h kybernhsh, h opoia exei katarghsei diatajeis sykofanthshs dia toy Typoy, pragma poy proeblepe enas palaioteros nomos. Kai tote epikrothqhke h prwtoboylia ths kybernhshs toy PASOK, poy anelhfqh epi ypoyrgias Eyaggeloy Benizeloy kai htan poly epityxhmenh.

GARGALAKOS: Me aformh, kapoies ekpompes sthn thleorash, exei jekinhsei mia akatasxeth ciqyrologia, h opoia exei arxisei na qigei, ``diadromistika'', diafora politika proswpa. Eipate, prohgoymenws, oti qigontai oi baseis toy politeymatos kai anaferate ena nomiko plaisio, poy ypotiqetai oti qwrakizei to politeyma. Wstoso, sto dia tayta, ola ayta menoyn anenerga. Oyte to ESR exei drasthriopoihqei pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. Giati edw, shmera stoys diadromoys -kai syggnwmh poy to lew ayto, giati erxomai apo th Boylh- akoysa ena plhqos onomatwn politikwn, oti briskontai mesa se aytes tis kasetes. Einai dynaton, anqrwpoi na spilwnontai kai na mhn exoyn th dynatothta na apanthsoyn. Giati se enan ciqyro den mporei na apantas. Kai to ypoyrgeio Typoy h to ESR na menoyn apaqh.

REPPAS: To isxyon nomiko plaisio -epanalambanw- einai aysthro. Qewrw oti einai eparkes kai prepei ta armodia organa na epilhfqoyn. Kanw mia epishmansh: Oti gia ena megalo xroniko diasthma kapoioi paroysiasan tis sxeseis ypoyrgeioy Typoy kai ESR, ws sxeseis poy briskontai se krish. Egw den dexomai kati tetoio. Mporw na epishmanw, omws, oti apo ton Oktwbrio toy 1998 mexri twra poy isxyei o nomos 2644, to ESR den asxolhqhke me radiothleoptiko programma h me qema poy apasxolhse thn koinh gnwmh epeidh problhqhke, mesw kapoioy radiofwnikoy h thleoptikoy staqmoy kai isws parabiase th radiothleoptikh nomoqesia. Kai ayto, pragmatika, einai kati to opoio shmeiwnw. Pisteyw oti me th nea synqesh toy to ESR, opws epraje molis prosfata, me allo synafes qema, to idio qa kanei kai twra. Gi ayto akribws, ejoplisame di aytoy toy nomoy -poy emeis eishghqhkame kai chfisame- to Symboylio Radiothleorashs, me th dynatothta na epilambanetai aytepaggeltws. Toy dwsame ayth thn ejoysia. Opws dwsame ejoysia kai ston Proedro toy ESR na parembainei kai na anaballei h na diakoptei thn ekpomph programmatwn. Aytes tis armodiothtes to ESR den tis exei askhsei, apo tote poy isxyei o neos nomos, edw kai peripoy enamish xrono. To epishmainw ayto gia na mhn mpw kai se alles leptomereies. Antilhfqeite ki eseis, an olh ayth h syzhthsh -thn opoia kapoioi prospaqoyn na synthrhsoyn- gia thn krish, exei sygkekrimenoys stoxoys. An dhladh einai toso oydeterh ayth h syzhthsh h mhpws telika ginetai ek toy ponhroy kai den exei allo stoxo alla synexizetai, wste ypo to prosxhma pws yparxei krish stis sxeseis ypoyrgeioy Typoy kai ESR, to Symboylio na mhn epilambanetai analogwn qematwn kai na epitrepei thn asydosia. Sas kalw na problhmatisteite, giati blepw kapoioi na mh pairnoyn thn eyqynh kai na mhn chfizoyn otan erxetai h krisimh wra na paroyn apofash gia tetoia qemata. Ola ayta kati shmainoyn. Den exw milhsei arketa, edw kai polloys mhnes, gia ola ayta ta qemata. Epiteloys, qa prepei kapoioi na analaboyn tis eyqynes toys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poioi einai aytoi poy den analambanoyn tis eyqynes toys. Giati apo o,ti jerw to ESR, mexri twra, exei allajei treis proedroys. Pote na paroyn apofash; Poioi einai;

REPPAS: To ESR, ypo thn prohgoymenh synqesh toy, den asxolhqhke me kamia sxetikh ypoqesh, apo ton Oktwbrio toy 1998, poy isxyei o nomos 2644 poy egw eishghqhka sth Boylh. Ayto shmainei oti sto radiothleoptiko topio ola htan rodina, kata thn krish toy ESR.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mporeite na moy peite ta onomata;

REPPAS: Prosfata, to ESR elabe mia apofash kai ypebale poinh kai xrhmatiko prostimo se thleoptiko staqmo. Parakalw na ereynhsete poia qesh phran ta melh toy, sto plaisio ayths ths syzhthshs kai ths chfoforias poy egine kai na bgalete ta symperasmata sas. Kai perimenw na to sxoliasete.

STAMATOPOYLOS: @qa cajoyme emeis!

REPPAS: Ean exete toso endiaferon, epeidh ta qemata qewreite oti einai shmantika, qa kanete ayto ton kopo.

MIXAHL: Den problhmatizeste apo to gegonos oti h apanthsh poy dwsate, twra ston k. Stamatopoylo, dhladh, thn parotrynsh na cajoyme na doyme ti stash thrhsan ta melh toy ESR, endexomenws, na ermhneyqei kai ws parotrynsh na epemboyn pali kai na kanoyn kati gia to opoio oi idioi problhmatizontai h den qeloyn h kati allo.

REPPAS: Ws ypoyrgos Typoy exw to dikaiwma -kai apefyga na to askhsw gia na mh kathgorhqw, logw ths kakopistias orismenwn, oti parembainw sta eswterika toy ESR- na diatypwsw erwthma pros to ESR kai na to kalesw na asxolhqei me sygkekrimeno qema. Den to ekana kai den qa to kanw. Topoqetoymai, omws, dhmosiws kai epishmws kai lew oti ayta ta qemata apoteloyn armodiothta toy ESR, to opoio prepei na epilhfqei.

KAPPOS: Ti symbainei, twra teleytaia kai apo thn Agkyra exoyme diamartyries gia parenoxlhseis toyrkikwn maxhtikwn sto Aigaio. Kai otan lew diamartyries, ennow oti ginontai me ton pio epishmo tropo. Dhladh, epi paradeigmati, klhqhke xqes o Ellhnas presbhs sthn Agkyra@@@

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, den eklhqh o Ellhnas presbhs. Qa klhqei. Giati synhqws h Toyrkia anakoinwnei, ek twn proterwn, ta diabhmata sta opoia prokeitai na probei. Deyteron, ta ellhnika maxhtika aeroskafh pantote qa anaxaitizoyn toyrkika maxhtika aeroskafh h aeroskafh allhs xwras, ta opoia petoyn sto Aigaio, parabainontas toys kanones ths enaerias kykloforias kai parabiazontas ton eqniko enaerio xwro.

Sas eyxaristw. Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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