Greek Government Press Briefing, 00-02-15

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 15 Febroyarioy 2000

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Qa moy epitrecete na kanw mia dieykrinish, me aformh dhmosieyma megalhs jenhs efhmeridas, ths Herald Tribune, poy mporei na dhmioyrghsei paranohsh, kai afora thn enhmerwsh poy sas ekana thn prohgoymenh Paraskeyh, meta th syskech poy eixame gia thn proodo toy sxedioy mas enocei ths Olympiadas toy 2004. Metajy twn allwn, sas eixa pei oti oson afora to aerodromio toy Ellhnikoy ews to Noembrio toy 2001 qa prepei na exei eleyqerwqei, na exoyn metaferqei, dhladh, oi egkatastaseis ths OLYMPIAKHS, prokeimenoy na xrhsimopoihqei pleon apo thn Organwtikh Epitroph. Doqhke h entypwsh, ayto anaferetai sto dhmosieyma, oti to Noembrio toy 2001 qa ginei h metafora ths OLYMPIAKHS. Den prokeitai peri aytoy. Toso oi egkatastaseis synthrhshs kai episkeyhs, oso kai o programmatismos twn pthsewn ths O.A. qa exoyn egkairws oloklhrwqei, enocei ths leitoyrgias toy neoy aerodromioy, prokeimenoy na einai ola symfwna me ta osa exoyme pei. To megalo neo aerodromio ``Eleyqerios Benizelos'', opws gnwrizete, qa jekinhsei th leitoyrgia toy thn 1h Martioy toy 2001. Antilambaneste pws, thn prohgoymenh Paraskeyh, miloysame gia thn proetoimasia ths xwras mas enocei ths Olympiadas. Kai anaferomenos sto aerodromio toy Ellhnikoy eipa oti h Organwtikh Epitroph apo to Noembrio toy 2001 qa hqele na einai eleyqero, na apodoqei to aerodromio toy Ellhnikoy, prokeimenoy na xrhsimopoihqei katallhlws. Ara, den exei sxesh to ena me to allo. Eixa pei ews to Noembrio toy 2001 qa prepei na exei eleyqerwqei. Mh dhmioyrgeitai h entypwsh oti to Noembrio toy 2001 prepei na metaferqei h O.A.. Kai epeidh prokeitai gia ena lepto shmeio ekana ayth th dieykrinish.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ki edw to egracan.

REPPAS: Egw hmoyn poly safhs. Exw to <i><strong><FONT COLOR=#ff0000>briefing</FONT></strong></i> mprosta moy. Den miloysame gia thn O.A., alla gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes. Otan milame gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes, sto sxediasmo mas problepetai oti to aerodromio toy Ellhnikoy qa prepei to Noembrio toy 2001 na einai eleyqero gia na apodoqei. Apo ekei kai pera h O.A. exei to diko ths programmatismo. Exei anakoinwqei ayto, den einai kati to opoio leme gia prwth fora. Kai gnwrizete poly kala oti h O.A. qa exei mia isxyrh paroysia, sto plaisio leitoyrgias toy neoy aerodromioy ``Eleyqerios Benizelos''.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pote metaferetai;

REPPAS: Sas eipa egkairws, wste na einai paroysa sth leitoyrgia toy aerodromioy. Ayto to nohma exei h lejh ``egkairws''.

Qa moy epitrecete, epishs, na kanw ena geniko sxolio, me aformh dhlwseis kai omilies toy Arxhgoy ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs toy k. Karamanlh, o opoios epididetai se mia akrath paroxologia, xwris oysiastiko periexomeno kai antikrysma. O k. Karamanlhs ginetai etsi qyma mias politikhs antifashs. Apo th mia paroysiazei thn Ellada na einai koinwnika kai oikonomika adynamh kai kathgorei th dikh mas kybernhsh gi ayto kai apo thn allh, thn idia stigmh, paroysiazei thn Ellada ikanh kai etoimh na proxwrhsei se dapanes ekatontadwn dis draxmwn, prokeimenoy na ikanopoihqoyn diafora aithmata diaforwn koinwnikwn omadwn. Ayth h antifash sthn opoia exei perielqei o k. Karamanlhs deixnei kai to politiko adiejodo ths paratajhs toy. Se ayto to makry katalogo ergwn kai metrwn poy anakoinwnei, kata thn peristash, den kanei ton kopo, opws qa armoze se enan ypeyqyno politiko, na mas pei apo poia phgh qa antlhqoyn ta xrhmata ta opoia apaitoyntai, prokeimenoy na ikanopoihqoyn ayta ta aithmata, ta opoia diatypwnontai kai o idios isxyrizetai oti ta antimetwpizei me qetiko tropo. Bebaiws, einai gnwsto oti h N.D. otan milaei gia entash twn diarqrwtikwn allagwn den ennoei tipota allo para apolyseis. Ennoei kataspatalhsh dhmosias perioysias, prokeimenoy sto plaisio toy neofileleyqeroy programmatos ths, na ejyphrethqoyn sygkekrimena symferonta twn oligwn. Kata ta alla to yfos me to opoio milaei o k. Karamanlhs parapempei eyqews sto yfos ths ejoysias poy ekfrazei ton k. Karamanlh kai thn paratajh toy. Giati, me ybreis kai sykofantikoys kai ceydeis isxyrismoys den einai dynaton na kalyfqei h endeia programmatos kai ajiopisths protashs ejoysias poy apotelei monimo pleon xarakthristiko ths N.D..

MIXAHL: Epikrinete, qa elega me ojeis tonoys, ton k. Karamanlh gi ayta poy leei. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw an qewreite oti aytos o tropos antimetwpishs toy Arxhgoy ths N.D. tairiazei sthn proeklogikh kampania poy qelei na kanei to PASOK.

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola mplekete polla qemata mazi. Emeis den miloyme me ojeis tonoys kai xarakthrismoys. Eidate oti syxna apofeygw na apantw stis dhlwseis h tis kathgories poy ektojeyei o k. Karamanlhs. Giati, o idios o ellhnikos laos, oi Ellhnes polites, mporoyn kai krinoyn kai bgazoyn to politiko symperasma toys apo to yfos stis omilies toy k. Karamanlh poy einai synhqws ybristiko gia ton prwqypoyrgo kai thn kybernhsh. An deite xarakthrismoys poy periexontai stis omilies toy k. Karamanlh kai twn stelexwn ths N.D. qa allajete gnwmh gia to ti einai ybristiko, ti einai ojy kai poios xrhsimopoiei tetoioy eidoys lejeis. Emeis exoyme kaqe logo, epeidh exoyme sygkekrimeno ergo, na anamenoyme thn ananewsh ths empistosynhs toy ellhnikoy laoy epi th basei ths alhqeias aytoy toy ergoy. Exoyme dhmioyrghsei ena neo periballon se ayth th xwra. Exoyme dhmioyrghsei tis proypoqeseis mias kalyterhs zwhs gia oloys toys Ellhnes polites. Ayto to anagnwrizoyn kai oi idioi oi Ellhnes. O,ti ki an lene oi politikoi h ta kommata exei poly mikroterh shmasia, se sxesh me ayto poy leei h idia h peira, h zwh, stoys Ellhnes polites poy zoyn se ayth th xwra kai exoyn empeiries kai mporoyn na bgaloyn monoi toys ta symperasmata toys. Exoyme apolyth empistosynh, loipon, sthn krish twn politwn.

MIXAHL: O k. Mhtsotakhs, se xqesinh thleoptikh toy synenteyjh, eipe oti o k. Shmiths den kanei tipote allo apo thn politikh ths N.D. kai malista, leei thn kanei oxi jekaqara, opws thn ekane o idios, me apotelesma ta grhgora bhmata poy xreiazetai h xwra na proxwrhsei, na ginontai sxedon poly arga kai na exoyme, etsi, kaqysterhseis, enw qa mporoysame na eimaste poly pio grhgoroi stoys ryqmoys kai thn prosarmogh mas sthn Eyrwph. Exete na kanete kapoio sxolio gia ola ayta;

REPPAS: Me ayta poy eipe o k. Mhtsotakhs, epibebaiwnei ta osa eipa kai egw, prin. Oti mas endiaferei h proodos twn allagwn na einai tetoia, wste na diasfalizoyme taytoxrona to agaqo ths koinwnikhs synoxhs, me antistaqmistika metra politikhs gia tis koinwnika adynames omades. O k. Mhtsotakhs, me ayto poy eipe, epibebaiwnei oysiastika ayto gia to opoio kathgoroyme th N.D.: oti den endiaferetai gia ton anqrwpo. Qelei na proxwrhsei kapoies allages, diarqrwtikoy xarakthra opws tis onomazei, adiaforwntas gia to koinwniko kostos poy synepagetai o ryqmos me ton opoio proxwroyn oi allages aytes. Emeis exoyme pei, kat` epanalhch, oti h politikh mas diapneetai apo to stoixeio ths koinwnikhs allhleggyhs kai mas endiaferei na perifroyrhsoyme to stoixeio ths koinwnikhs synoxhs. Einai poly shmantiko, h kybernhtikh prospaqeia mas na ejelissetai se ena tetoio periballon. Allwste exoyme oloi, mias kai exei istorika katagrafei, gnwsh enos gegonotos: Oti dyo programmata sygklishs ths N.D. apetyxan apolytws sto na efarmostoyn, odhghsan se apoklish th xwras mas apo tis alles xwres ths E.E. Milw gia thn periodo `90 -`93. Apo to `94 kai meta, me bash to programma sygklishs poy emeis epejergasthkame kai qesame se efarmogh, katorqwsame ayto poy tote fainotan apiasto oneiro, h entajh dhladh ths Elladas sthn ONE, na einai twra mia pragmatikothta. Ayth einai h kalyterh apanthsh, thn opoia dinei h idia h zwh, sth N.D. kai ta stelexh ths.

KARASABBA: Qa hqela na kanw treis erwthseis gia diaforetika qemata. Prwton, yparxoyn kapoies oikonomikes anhsyxies sxetika me thn ayjhsh ths timhs toy petrelaioy; Deyteron, poios o epipleon ariqmos astynomikwn poy qa steilei, an steilei, h Ellada sto Kossyfopedio; Kai triton, pote jekinane jana oi pthseis ths O.A. pros to Beligradi;

REPPAS: Oson afora to prwto qema, asfalws ayth h aifnidiastikh ayjhsh ths timhs toy petrelaioy dhmioyrgei problhmata, ta opoia omws eimaste etoimoi na ta antimetwpisoyme. H ellhnikh oikonomia exei tis dynatothtes tetoies ektaktes ejelijeis na tis antimetwpizei me ikanopoihtiko tropo. Prepei na kataballoyme prospaqeia. Einai kati poy, an den to xeiristoyme me synesh, mporei na mas odhghsei ektos programmatismoy. Pisteyw, omws, oti den qa exoyme ajeperasta problhmata. Mhn jexnate oti h ayjhsh ths timhs toy petrelaioy den afora mono thn Ellada, afora kai alles xwres ths E.E. An epibarynei, kata emmeso tropo, to epipedo toy plhqwrismoy h ayjhsh ths timhs toy petrelaioy, ayto symbainei gia oles tis xwres. Emeis prepei na epityxoyme ena epipedo plhqwrismoy, sygkrinomenoi me to epipedo poy exoyn petyxei oi alles xwres kai gnwrizete mesw poias diadikasias. Pisteyoyme oti den qa staqei empodio h ayjhsh ths timhs toy petrelaioy, prokeimenoy na epityxoyme kai ayto to krithrio, poy einai to teleytaio, ayto poy apomenei, prokeimenoy na eimaste se plhrh armonia me tis ypoxrewseis poy analabame, meta th synqhkh toy Maastrixt. Genikotera, h epibarynsh gia thn ellhnikh oikonomia einai dedomenh. Pisteyoyme, omws, oti einai antimetwpisimh.

Oson afora to deytero qema, syzhtoyme me tis alles xwres, sto plaisio aytwn twn diaboyleysewn, gia thn antimetwpish ths katastashs sto Kossyfopedio. Den exoyme labei apofaseis. Qa kanoyme o,ti kai oi alles xwres, kat` analogia twn dynamewn mas kai ths paroysias mas sthn perioxh. Pantws, ayth thn wra tetoio qema den tiqetai. Allages problepontai mono sth dioikhsh.

Kai oson afora to trito qema, h O.A. exei dioikhsh. Se synennohsh me tis dioikhseis twn allwn aeroporikwn etairiwn, se eyqeto xrono, qa teqei se efarmogh h apofash poy exei labei h E.E. kai qa epanarxisei tis pthseis apo kai pros to Beligradi.

KARASABBA: Sthn apofash ayth ths E.E., enw yparxei h arsh toy empargko twn pthsewn k.t.l., h E.E. proxwrhse se epipleon mplokarisma -tajidiwtikwn odhgiwn k.t.l.- se synadelfoys toy k. Milosebits, se epixeirhmaties. Zhthqhke apo thn ellhnikh pleyra na proseggisei thn Kypro, na kleisei orismenoys logariasmoys poy exoyn prosbash aytoi oi epixeirhmaties;

REPPAS: Ayto den einai qema ths Elladas. H Kypros diapragmateyetai thn entajh ths sthn E.E., syzhta me ta organa ths E.E. Emeis xairetizoyme ayth thn ejelijh, ths arshs dhladh twn periorismwn sto plaisio toy aeroporikoy empargko poy exei epiblhqei sth Gioygkoslabia, giati pisteyoyme oti tetoioy eidoys periorismoi odhgoyn se teleiws antiqeta apotelesmata apo ayta ta opoia kat` arxas kai kata dhlwsh aytwn poy pairnoyn tis apofaseis, epidiwkontai. Kata ta alla, pisteyoyme oti qa prepei na lhfqei pronoia, wste opoia metra, opoies apofaseis lambanontai apo to dieqnh paragonta, na mhn odhgoyn se megala problhmata gia ton plhqysmo, gia toys polites ths Gioygkoslabias, oi opoioi se teleytaia analysh, den exoyn kamia eyqynh gia aytes tis ejelijeis. Den exw tipote allo na prosqesw ws pros ayto. H Ellada den exei kanena rolo mesolabhth stis sxeseis ths E.E. me thn Kypro gia tetoioy eidoys qemata.

MPOYATAR: Telika h Ellada epebale kyrwseis enantion ths Aystrias kai me poio skeptiko;

REPPAS: H Ellada exei ekfrasei th qesh ths, h opoia einai taytoshmh me th qesh poy ejefrasan ta organa ths E.E.. H dhlwsh toy proedreyontos Portogaloy prwqypoyrgoy mas kalyptei apolytws. Den exoyme kanei otidhpote allo, peran aytoy toy plaisioy, poy exei apofasisei h E.E. gia tis sxeseis ths me thn Aystria. Ayto to plaisio efarmozoyme.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, anhsyxei thn kybernhsh kai to komma, an mporoyme na to syzhthsoyme edw, to dysmenes klima poy exei dhmioyrghqei, symfwna me to reportaz, apo thn prosxwrhsh toy k. Kontogiannopoyloy sto PASOK;

REPPAS: To klima kai idiaiterws to eklogiko klima gia to PASOK einai poly ikanopoihtiko, idiaitera enqarryntiko. Oydemia anhsyxia mas diakatexei. Pisteyoyme oti einai kerdos gia thn politikh zwh kai gia ena megalo komma, opws einai to PASOK, to gegonos oti stelexh ths dhmosias zwhs ths xwras epilegoyn na dwsoyn th maxh katw apo th shmaia aytoy toy megaloy kommatos.

MPEKAS: O Mikhs Qeodwrakhs qa einai sto chfodeltio Epikrateias toy PASOK;

REPPAS: Den eteqh tetoio qema. O Mikhs Qeodwrakhs einai mia megalh proswpikothta eqnikoy diametrhmatos, toy opoioy oi apoceis einai pantote sebastes.

MPOTWNHS: H N.D. epimenei, meta kai tis ektimhseis poy eixate dwsei edw pro hmerwn gia to qema ths ejagoras thleoptikoy xronoy, kai malista prosfata ta stelexh ths kathgoroyn thn kybernhsh oti den exei na agorasei ton thleoptiko xrono, ton opoio prepei na dianeimei me bash thn koinoboyleytikh dynamh twn kommatwn. Ti exete na peite gi ayto;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, thleoptikos xronos diatiqetai sta kommata me ta osa isxyoyn kai shmera. Sto plaisio ths organwshs aytwn twn syzhthsewn poy apofasizei h Diakommatikh ekproswpeitai kaqe komma. Etsi, dinetai h dynatothta se ekproswpoys olwn twn kommatwn na poyn tis apoceis toys. Epishs, kaqe hlektroniko MME diaqetei ena dekalepto thn ebdomada se kaqe politiko komma, enocei eklogwn, prokeimenoy na to ajiopoihsei kata th dikh toy epilogh kai ektimhsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Apo pote isxyoyn ayta;

REPPAS: Ayta isxyoyn. Isxyoyn apo thn prohgoymenh eklogikh periodo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: A, thn prohgoymenh lete;

REPPAS: Asfalws. Isxyoyn apolytws. Ayta apoteloyn kekthmeno.

MIXAHL: Sas rwtw@

REPPAS: Eipa oti ayta, hdh, isxyoyn. Kai oi perissoteroi, metajy twn opoiwn ki eseis -opws antilambanomai- den to gnwrizete. To agnoeite ayto. Qewreite oti einai qemata ta opoia antimetwpizoyme gia prwth fora. Apo kei kai pera h N.D. ekane mia protash nomoy, opoy metajy twn allwn diatypwse mia mono nea idea: Na agorasoyme xrono diarkeias dyo wrwn kaqe mera, apo kaqe hlektroniko MME, prokeimenoy na to diaqesoyme sta politika kommata kata th diarkeia ths proeklogikhs periodoy, epi trianta, dhladh, hmeres. Apanthsa me sygkekrimena stoixeia. Paradexqhkan oi idioi oi boyleytes ths N.D. oti h protash toys einai atelhs kai sas parapempw sta praktika ths syzhthshs ayths ths protashs nomoy sth Boylh. H dapanh, loipon, ayth jeperna ta 100 disekatommyria draxmes, me toys metrioteroys ypologismoys. Odhgei se kataspatalhsh toy dhmosioy xrhmatos. Gi ayto h protash ths N.D., opws thn xarakthrisa tote, apodeiknyetai oti einai proxeirh, xwris tekmhriwsh, ypokritikh kai palaiokommatikh. Apo kei kai pera, sto plaisio twn synedriasewn ths Diakommatikhs Epitrophs, syzhtoyntai ryqmiseis oi opoies afenos qa dieykolynoyn th leitoyrgia twn MME, ws aytonomwn organismwn enhmerwshs kai afeteroy qa dwsoyn th dynatothta sta kommata na proballoyn tis apoceis toys, me isotimo tropo, wste na mhn yparxei periqwrio gia thn askhsh kakopisths kritikhs se ayto ton tomea.

KARASABBA: Hqela mia jekaqarish sto qema ths Aystrias. Diaceydete, dhladh, shmerina dhmosieymata poy lene oti h Ellada exei proxwrhsei se kyrwseis kata ths Aystrias.

REPPAS: Emeis kinoymaste sto plaisio twn apofasewn ths E.E. Jerete poly kala oti kapoies kybernhseis exoyn analabei prwtoboylia kai stis sxeseis toys me thn Aystria exoyn odhghqei se mia allh diabaqmish. Emeis paramenoyme sto plaisio ths qeshs poy exei diatypwsei h E.E. me ta metra poy exei apofasisei.

KARASABBA: Sxetika pali me ta qemata twn oikonomikwn megeqwn poy aforoyn tis ekloges: Mporeite na mas dwsete stoixeia sxetika me to posa xrhmata exei eisprajei to PASOK apo xorhgies, mexri ayth th stigmh;

REPPAS: Ayta einai qemata toy kommatos. Prepei na sas pw oti oi dapanes twn kommatwn elegxontai kai oi poroi toys opoioys exoyn ta kommata, toylaxiston to PASOK, einai apolyta faneroi. Gnwrizete oti to PASOK einai ena komma me ekatontades xiliades melh, ekatommyria chfoforoys. Logiko einai ta esoda toy na yperbainoyn ta esoda poy tyxon exei ena allo mikrotero politiko komma. Alla, ola ayta den einai antikeimeno ths politikhs enhmerwshs. Einai qemata ta opoia mporeite na plhroforhqeite, syzhtwntas me toys ekproswpoys toy PASOK. Qa exete apanthseis gia ola ayta ta qemata, perissotero apo ikanopoihtikes.

Sas eyxaristw.

Osoi endiaferontai na symmetasxoyn sthn periodeia toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Qrakh, to Sabbato 19 Febroyarioy, na apeyqynqoyn sto Grafeio Typoy PASOK, ston k. Karydh.

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