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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 1 Febroyarioy 2000

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

PARIS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw sxetika me kapoies dhlwseis poy ekane, xqes, o Kofi Anan. Eipe oti prosdoka mia dikaih lysh toy Kypriakoy, mesa sto xrono. Ayto, poy to sthrizei o k. Anan; Qa hqela ena sxolio ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs.

REPPAS: To sxolio poy mporw na kanw, einai oti mia tetoia dhlwsh einai elpidofora. O k. Anan, profanws, exei ypoch toy stoixeia, ta opoia ton odhgoyn se ayto to aisiodojo symperasma. Pisteyw oti h dhlwsh ayth exei qetiko xarakthra. Giati mporei na pei kaneis oti apotelei mia askhsh pieshs pros thn Toyrkia kai ton k. Ntenktas, na symmorfwqoyn pros tis apofaseis poy exei labei o OHE kai na enarmonistoyn me tis prwtoboylies toy dieqnoys paragonta, symballontas etsi sthn ejeyresh lyshs sto kypriako problhma. Den exw na pw tipote allo. Ayto to opoio pisteyw, omws, oti prepei na meinei se mas, einai oti to Kypriako apasxolei ton OHE se poly ychlo epipedo. Kai oti, gia na dhlwnei ayto to opoio dhlwse o epikefalhs toy megaloy dieqnoys Organismoy, shmainei oti aytes oi prooptikes, mporei na pei kaneis, mas odhgoyn se epilysh toy Kypriakoy. An oxi twra, en pash periptwsei, dikaiologoyn thn aisiodojia, oti h prospaqeia ayth qa exei apotelesmata.

PARIS: Ti prosdoka h kybernhsh apo thn episkech Tzem, pera apo ta prosymfwnhmena kai tis symfwnies oi opoies qa ypografoyn;

REPPAS: H ypografh twn keimenwn twn symfwniwn, apotelei mia proodo. H episkech toy Toyrkoy ajiwmatoyxoy, qa symbalei sto na synthrhqei kai na ananewqei ayto to klima mias kalyterhs proseggishs, to opoio exei dhmioyrghqei thn teleytaia periodo, metajy twn dyo xwrwn. H ejelijh ayths ths prospaqeias gia thn ejomalynsh twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn, antilambaneste pws ejartatai apo diaforoys paragontes. Ejartatai, kyriws, apo tis amesa endiaferomenes kai emplekomenes xwres. H Ellada exei ekdhlwsei, me kaqe tropo, to endiaferon kai th boylhsh ths na symbalei sthn kateyqynsh yperbashs ths krishs stis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis. Prepei na kanei to idio kai h Toyrkia. Pisteyoyme oti o k. Tzem se ayth thn kateyqynsh qa kinhqei kai h Toyrkia qa antimetwpisei ekkremothtes poy yparxoyn kai qa symbalei, wste na odhghqoyme se mia kalyterh kai poly pio hremh epikoinwnia metajy twn dyo xwrwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H xqesinh apofash twn Bryjellwn, exei polla ``ean'' mesa, opws ``ean'' o plhqwrismos k.t.l. kai zhta megalyterh litothta. H kybernhsh ti qa kanei;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti aytoy toy eidoys oi apofaseis periexoyn polloys epainoys kai bebaiws, epanalambanoyn kai tis ypoxrewseis poy exei, oxi mono h Ellada, alla kaqe xwra ths ONE, na diathrhsei se ena orismeno epipedo ta makrooikonomika megeqh. Pisteyoyme oti exei epilejei, oxi mono h kybernhsh, alla h xwra mas, o ellhnikos laos, na parameinoyme isotimo melos ths ONE sthn opoia, opws ola deixnoyn, entassomaste, meta thn epityxh prospaqeia poy ekane h kybernhsh, h xwra mas, ta teleytaia xronia. To keimeno ths apofashs ayths apotelei mia epibebaiwsh ths epityxoys politikhs poy askhsame ayta ta xronia. Kai bebaiws, orizei to plaisio mesa sto opoio prepei na kinhqoyn oles oi xwres ths ONE, oxi mono h Ellada, kata ta epomena xronia. Ayth einai kai h megalh proklhsh gia mas: h meta ONE epoxh. Emeis poy eggyhqhkame kai me epityxia odhghsame thn Ellada sthn ONE, bazoyme twra tis baseis gia thn Ellada toy 21oy aiwna, gia thn meta ONE epoxh. Kai h meta ONE epoxh gia thn Ellada, qa exei th dikh mas ypografh. Giati emeis mporoyme na eggyhqoyme kai th synexeia. Kai ayto o ellhnikos laos to antilambanetai.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti exei epilejei o ellhnikos laos. Kanate dhmochfisma;

REPPAS: Gia thn entajh sthn ONE, pisteyw oti, apo th stigmh poy einai epilogh ths pamchfias twn Ellhnwn boyleytwn, toy megalyteroy tmhmatos twn politikwn kommatwn ths xwras poy ekproswpoyn ton ellhniko lao, mporoyme abiasta na bgaloyme, kata tekmhrio, to symperasma oti h pamchfia toy ellhnikoy laoy epiqymei thn entajh ths Elladas sthn ONE.

FILHS: Qelw sto qema ths Aystrias na rwthsw kati. Yparxei proeidopoihsh ths portogalikhs Proedrias gia thn Aystria, oti an telikws mpei sthn kybernhsh o neonazi, qa yparjoyn kyrwseis kai qa pagwsoyn oi sxeseis ths Aystrias me thn E.E. To erwthma einai, ean h portogalikh Proedria eixe diaboyleyseis kai me thn ellhnikh kybernhsh prin proxwrhsei ayth kai an yparxei kapoio sxolio ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs.

REPPAS: Oson afora to prwto skelos ths erwthshs sas, h portogalikh Proedria proxwrhse se diaboyleyseis me oles tis xwres ths E.E. kai me th dikh mas. Oson afora to deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas, gnwrizete oti apanthsan xqes, se sxetikh erwthsh, toso o Ellhnas oso kai o Soyhdos prwqypoyrgos. Emeis den epiqymoyme na ypeiselqoyme sta eswterika opoiasdhpote xwras. O kyriarxos laos kaqe xwras, einai aytos poy pairnei tis apofaseis. Bebaiws, se kaqe periptwsh, qa prepei na anadeijoyme to pragmatiko proswpo ths Eyrwphs, poy den einai allo apo ena synolo ajiwn, gia tis opoies qespisthke aytos o megalos ypereqnikos Organismos kai tis opoies prepei pantote na yphretei me tis politikes poy akoloyqei h Eyrwph, dhladh, oi kybernhseis twn kratwn-melwn ths E.E. Se ayth th qesh paramenoyme kai qa synexisoyme na agwnizomaste, prokeimenoy na dwsoyme ypostash se aytes tis ajies, gia na dikaiologeitai pantote o skopos gia ton opoio idryqhke h E.E.

FILHS: Dhladh, h ellhnikh kybernhsh yposthrizei thn proeidopoihsh ths portogalikhs Proedrias;

REPPAS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh, opws kai oles oi kybernhseis twn kratwn-melwn ths E.E., ekfrazetai apo thn topoqethsh toy Portogaloy prwqypoyrgoy, ws proedreyontos ths E.E.

KARAGIANNH: Symfwna me dhmosieymata toy ``Eleyqeroy Typoy'' tiqetai ena qema mh nomimoy ploytismoy gia to dikhgoriko grafeio toy k. Karatza, sto opoio epikefalhs einai h korh toy. Kai h apoch ayth malista, stoixeioqeteitai kai apo to gegonos enos eikosiplasiasmoy, qa elega, twn esodwn toy grafeioy, ta opoia prokyptoyn apo kondylia pelatwn, oi opoioi kata symptwsh einai kai pelates synallassomenoi me thn Eqnikh Trapeza. Epeidh, ej antikeimenoy, tiqetai ena qema asymbibastoy kai katateqhke kai sxetikh erwthsh sth Boylh apo boyleytes ths N.D. kai apo to DHKKI , qa hqela thn apoch ths kybernhshs.

REPPAS: Prwta ap ola, ayto den synista kybernhtiko qema, prokeimenoy h kybernhsh na einai ayth h opoia qa to antimetwpisei. Deyteron, prin milhsete gia paranomo h mh synnomo ploytismo, prepei na sas pw oti me dikh toy prwtoboylia -ej oswn gnwrizw, to exw plhroforhqei ayto- o Dioikhths ths Eqnikhs Trapezas ths Elladas exei apeyqynqei stis dikastikes arxes, ston armodio eisaggelea, ton opoio kalei na epilhfqei kai na ekdwsei analogo porisma, gia to ean olh ayth h epaggelmatikh drasthriothta, sthn opoia kai eseis anafereste, ejelissetai kata tropo synnomo h oxi. Kai triton, exei ekdoqei, me analytika plhroforiaka stoixeia, deltio typoy apo thn anaferomenh epaggelmatia dikhgoro, h opoia dinei apanthseis se oles aytes tis kathgories. Pisteyw oti h kybernhsh den exei na antimetwpisei opoiodhpote allo qema. Oi amesa endiaferomenoi exoyn dwsei tis apanthseis toys. Kai afoy h dikastikh arxh exei epilhfqei, as anamenoyme na doyme -mh bgazoyme tetoioy eidoys symperasmata- pws exoyn ta pragmata.

KARAGIANNH: Einai gnwsto, oti stoxos kai proqesh ths kybernhshs htan h eklogh toy k. Stefanopoyloy na ginei apo thn paroysa Boylh. To erwthma moy einai, an proqesh ths kybernhshs einai kai h orkwmosia toy k. Stefanopoyloy na ginei apo thn paroysa Boylh;

REPPAS: Oi qeseis poy exoyme diatypwsei den allazoyn. Den antilambanomai giati kaleitai h kybernhsh na ejhghsei th qesh ths, otan h qesh poy einai gnwsth se esas, paramenei h idia edw kai para polloys mhnes. Asfalws, epiqymoyme, opws pantote legame, ayth h Boylh na eklejei Proedro Dhmokratias me megalh pleiochfia. Noiwqoyme dikaiwmenoi, giati kai to komma ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs prosxwrhse sth dikh mas protash, poy kaname edw kai poly kairo. Kai bebaiws, ayth h Boylh einai h Boylh, h opoia qa antimetwpisei ola ta sxetika qemata me thn eklogh Proedroy Dhmokratias kai thn orkwmosia toy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Akoysa, prin apo ligo, ton k. Karamanlh na mila gia to Synedrio qesewn, to opoio qa einai anoikto gia thn koinwnia. Enw, antiqeta, to Synedrio toy kybernwntos kommatos einai kleisto. Giati;

REPPAS: Poia einai h erwthsh poy kanete;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati einai ``kleidwmeno'' to Synedrio toy PASOK; Exoyn kalesei kapoioys apo alla kommata;

REPPAS: Mhn paraplanaste apo etiketes, k. Stamatopoyle, tis opoies o kaqenas mporei na xrhsimopoiei gia ton eayto toy. Den toys empodizei kaneis. Emeis doyleyoyme me sygkekrimeno programma. Me bash to programma mas ayto qa syzhthsoyme sth Syndiaskech, h opoia exei oristei gia to epomeno Sabbatokyriako, thn opoia Syndiaskech -sas ypenqymizw- exei apofasisei to Synedrio toy Kinhmatos, peripoy prin apo ena xrono. Ayto deixnei poso sxediazoyme thn politikh mas se baqos xronoy kai th qetoyme se efarmogh, antiqeta me th N.D., h opoia ws ``paratajh-anemomylos'', ana trimhno, paroysiazetai me diaforetiko proswpo. Kapote alla elege gia to Syntagma kai alla leei twra. Kapote den chfize ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias, enw meta ton chfizei. Twra paroysiazetai, proxwrwntas se diafores syndiaskeceis, prokeimenoy na ekponhsei to programma ths, kati poy den eixe skefqei prin apo ta Xristoygenna. Twra skefqhke h N.D. oti exei endeia programmatos kai qesewn kai prepei na proxwrhsei sth diorganwsh tetoiwn syndiaskecewn gia na katartisei programma. Ma, einai sobaro komma ayto; Doyleyei me epimeleia, se baqos xronoy; Exei sygkekrimenh, sxediasmenh taktikh, thn opoia qetei se efarmogh, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisei ta problhmata toy laoy; Ola ayta einai erwthmata sta opoia kaqenas dinei th dikh toy apanthsh. Kai gnwrizw poia einai h apanthsh poy dinetai: Oti ola ayta deixnoyn aneyqynothta, proxeirothta, deixnoyn oti h N.D. oxi mono den exei programma, alla den einai etoimh na sobareytei toso, wste na antimetwpisei sobara kai toys Ellhnes polites poy tosa problhmata toys apasxoloyn. Gi ayto prospaqei, me thn politikh ayth, na paraplanhsei toys polites. Ayth einai h alhqeia. Ola ta alla afhste ta.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa moy apanthsete;

REPPAS: Oloi einai dynato na symmetexoyn se ayth th Syndiaskech qesewn toy PASOK. Einai Syndiaskech qesewn poy organwnei to kybernhtiko komma, opws kai ta synedria h prosynedria ths N.D. ta organwnei h N.D. me ta synqhmata ths kai toys politikoys stoxoys ths. Mhn jegelate, loipon, kai ton eayto sas, giati einai kati to opoio den mporw na dianohqw!

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa moy apanthsete giati einai kleisto;

REPPAS: Sas apanthsa.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ean exete kalesei alloys apo alla kommata@;

REPPAS: Sas apanthsa k. Stamatopoyle.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa moy apanthsete;

REPPAS: Oi pantes exoyn bhma na milhsoyn ekei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Exete kalesei;

REPPAS: Apeyqynqeite sto komma gia oles tis organwtikes leptomereies. Sas lew oti to bhma einai eleyqero gia kaqe endiaferomeno.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eseis eiste lalistatos twra, san na eiste se mpalkoni.

REPPAS: Se ola eimai lalistatos k. Stamatopoyle. Otan qetete erwthseis qa pairnete kai apanthseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sas lew...

REPPAS: Eseis qetete tis erwthseis me ton tropo poy qelete, ki egw apantw me ton tropo poy nomizw oti einai o katallhlos.

MPEKAS: Na perimenoyme shmera apo ton Prwqypoyrgo na prosdiorisei to xrono twn eklogwn;

REPPAS: Den tiqetai tetoio qema.

Sas eyxaristw.

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