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Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-12-10

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 10 Dekembrioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TO GENIKO GRAMMATEA TOY YPOYRGEIOY TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS NIKO AQANASAKH

Geia sas.

Den exw na sas pw kati teliko, ayth th stigmh, apo to Elsinki. Brisketai se ejelijh, opws gnwrizete, mia diapragmateysh se epipedo Symboylioy Koryfhs. H Ellada exei diatypwsei me poly safhneia tis qeseis ths, apo thn apodoxh twn opoiwn kai th diamorfwsh twn telikwn keimenwn, qa ejarthqei to "nai" h to "oxi" sta qemata poy mas apasxoloyn. To mono krithrio einai h diasfalish twn symferontwn ths xwras mas. H Ellada kineitai me gnwsh kai epignwsh toy roloy ths sthn perioxh, ws xwra paragontas eirhnhs kai staqerothtas.

Elpizw na einai peritto ayto poy qa pw. Epeidh, omws, yparxoyn kapoies dhlwseis stelexwn kyriws ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs, oi opoies thn emfanizoyn -an ayto diamorfwqei se telikh qesh- na etoimazetai, eite einai h mia apofash, eite h allh sto Elsinki, se opoiadhpote periptwsh, na askhsei mia mhdenistikh arnhtikh kritikh, qelw na pw apo twra oti, an ayto symbei, den qa einai bebaiws stash ypeyqynhs antipoliteyshs. Qa prokeitai gia mia "prokat" antipoliteysh, thn opoia qa krinei, bebaiws, o ellhnikos laos. Elpizw na mh xreiastei na epanelqw se ayto to klima.

Krataw gia to telos, ektos ean me rwthsete, ta qemata poy aforoyn to Eqniko Symboylio Radiothleorashs, opws ayta emfanizontai sth shmerinh eidhseografia.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MPOTONHS: Gia tis katalhceis qa hqela na rwthsw. Skeftetai h kybernhsh na epanejetasei to prosfato metro me thn aytepaggelth diwjh apo eisaggeleis, giati blepoyme skhnes apeiroy kaloys kaqhmerina sta deltia kai an qa parei kapoies alles prwtoboylies gia na yparjei mia ektonwsh toy klimatos.

AQANASAKHS: Apo ena synolo peripoy 3.500 sxoleiwn Meshs Ekpaideyshs, problhma ayth th stigmh fainetai na yparxei se peripoy ekato sxoleia. Ayto einai to epipedo se olh th xwra. Pisteyw oti exete kai eseis, me to reportaz, mia tetoia eikona, poy epipleon den afora, se kamia periptwsh, to synolo twn maqhtwn aytwn twn sxoleiwn. Den qelw na mpw sto paixnidi twn pleiochfiwn h twn meiochfiwn, me dedomenh th qesh mas oti ta sxoleia prepei na einai anoixta kai qa parameinoyn anoixta. Se orismenes perioxes kai se liga sxoleia einai gegonos oti to problhma synexizetai. Prepei na epishmanw, ws neo stoixeio, mia aparadekth qesh poy diamorfwqhke, xqes, apo mia sygkyriakh pleiochfia sto Dioikhtiko Symboylio ths OLME, poy aforoyse th qesh toy ypoyrgeioy Paideias, symfwna me thn opoia, efoson h ekpaideytikh diadikasia, to ekpaideytiko etos einai se ejelijh, oi apoysies stoys maqhtes qa xrewnontai. H qesh poy diamorfwse h pleiochfia toy D. S. ths OLME, ws odhgia stoys kaqhghtes, na mh xrewnoyn apoysies, otan oi maqhtes briskontai se kinhtopoihseis h katalhceis, antilambaneste oti einai mia aparadekth qesh. Einai mia qesh h opoia den mporei na ginei apodekth se kamia periptwsh. Kai oi kaqhghtes ths Meshs Ekpaideyshs, ypoqetw oti antilambanontai oti ektos apo paidagwgoi h leitoyrgoi h opws alliws oi idioi qeloyn na xarakthrizoyn toys eaytoys toys -kai elpizoyme na to apodeiknyoyn kai sthn prajh- einai kai dhmosioi ypallhloi, dhmosioi leitoyrgoi. Bebaiws, oi politikes dynameis, oi opoies ekfrazontai dia twn sygkekrimenwn syndikalistwn, ofeiloyn epishs na paroyn qesh panw sta qemata ayta. H qesh ths kybernhshs einai oti ta qemata ths Paideias den antimetwpizontai me kleista sxoleia. To problhma yparxei se mikro ariqmo sxoleiwn. Tis apofaseis ths kybernhshs tis gnwrizete. Kaqenas einai ypeyqynos twn prajewn toy.

KARELIAS: H ypenqymish ths idiothtas toy dhmosioy ypallhloy, ti skopo exei; Mporeite na mas to ejhghsete;

AQANASAKHS: Nomizw oti einai aytonohto. Yparxoyn ypoxrewseis kai eyqynes.

KARELIAS: Oi kyrwseis...

AQANASAKHS: Oi kyrwseis prokyptoyn apo to nomo. Kaqe dhmosios ypallhlos, kaqe dhmosios leitoyrgos kaleitai na leitoyrghsei se ena sygkekrimeno plaisio. Den ftiaxnei aytos to plaisio mesa sto opoio qa leitoyrghsei. Etsi den einai; Isxyei gia oloys mas ayto.

KARELIAS: Exei lhfqei kapoia apofash gia thn epibolh kyrwsewn;

AQANASAKHS: Exei kanei sxetikes anakoinwseis, apo xqes, o ypoyrgos Paideias gia ta qemata ayta. Emeis panta elpizoyme oti ola ayta mporei na kinhqoyn ejw apo diadikasies kyrwsewn h elegxwn ayths ths morfhs. H ekpaideytikh diadikasia einai mia diadikasia syneyqynhs, prwta kai kyria. Omws, kaneis den mporei na paizei me to mellon aytwn twn paidiwn.

MPOTONHS: Pws sxoliazete to shmerino dhmosieyma ths "Ayrianhs" poy anaferei oti o k. Soyflias qa synergastei stis epomenes ekloges me to PASOK;

AQANASAKHS: Den exw dei tetoia dhlwsh toy k. Soyflia. An yparjei, parakalw na me janarwthsete.

* Erxomai twra sta qemata toy ESR. Yparxei mia ekkremothta sthn opoia ofeilw, kai ek meroys toy ypoyrgeioy Typoy, na topoqethqw. Xqes, o Proedros toy Synaspismoy k. Kwnstantopoylos, akoloyqhse ton arxhgo ths N. D. k. Karamanlh sthn prospaqeia ekmetalleyshs toy qematos poy exei anakycei me to ESR, me tis synanthseis poy eixe me antiproswpeia melwn toy Symboylioy kai me tis dhlwseis meta apo tis synanthseis aytes. Kai stis dyo periptwseis, ayto poy epibebaiwnoyn einai oti h dikh toys logikh einai ekeinh poy qelei to qesmo desmio mias kommatikhs nootropias kai kommatikhs ekmetalleyshs. H dikh toys nootropia einai nootropia kommatismoy, isws giati etsi nomizoyn oti qa breqoyn -se mia periodo poy thn qewroyn proeklogikh- se kalyterh afethria.

To lew ayto dioti pragmatika htan ejw apo kaqe plaisio h idiaitera entonh epiqesh apo thn pleyra toy k. Kwnstantopoyloy kata toy ypoyrgoy Typoy, ton opoio eftase na xarakthrisei "qesmoktono"! Bebaiws o ypoyrgos Typoy, poy den exei anagkh synhgoroy, qa apanthsei o idios meta thn epistrofh toy apo to ejwteriko. Exontas, omws, kai o idios, ws Genikos Grammateas se ayto to ypoyrgeio, xeiristei ta qemata ayta, dinw mia prwth apanthsh:

Otan o k. Kwnstantopoylos h o k. Karamanlhs miloyn -gia paradeigma- gia "asydosia sto radiothleoptiko topio", nomizw arkei na toys ypenqymisei kaneis, poioi htan oi syntaktes kai oi eishghtes toy nomoy 1866/1989, poy ebale ta qemelia kai yphrje h afethria ayths ths asydosias. Kai den diafeygei, bebaiws, apo ton k. Kwnstantopoylo, oti aytos o nomos -o 1866/89- ferei kai th dikh toy ypografh.

Apo to 1993 kai meta oi kybernhseis toy PASOK exoyn katabalei mia terastia prospaqeia gia thn apokatastash ths nomimothtas, th diamorfwsh toy sygkekrimenoy qesmikoy plaisioy kai th leitoyrgia mesa sto triptyxo diafaneia, nomimothta, poiothta.

Teleytaia, exoyn ginei polles dhlwseis, me aformh thn paraithsh toy Proedroy toy ESR, gia qemata anejarthsias toy organoy kai gia to poios yperaspizetai thn anejarthsia ayth.

Qelw na ypenqymisw oti o monos elegxos ton opoion h kybernhsh dia toy ypoyrgeioy Typoy dikaioytai na kanei stis apofaseis toy ESR, einai elegxos nomimothtas. Kanenas allos.

Qelw, akomh, na ypenqymisw se osoys askoyn ayth thn kritikh, oti gia kaqe apofash apaiteitai symfwnh gnwmh toy ESR.

Qelw, epishs, na ypenqymisw oti ta melh toy Symboylioy ypodeiknyontai men apo ta kommata, alla oi topoqethseis toys den anakaloyntai kata th diarkeia ths qhteias toys, akribws gia na exoyn th dynatothta anejarthths qeshs kai stashs.

Oles oi ews twra apofaseis toy ESR poy proeblepan kyrwseis stoys staqmoys, exoyn epikyrwqei kai ekdoqei apo to ypoyrgeio, me ejairesh th merikh diafwnia se treis apofaseis, stis opoies epikyrwqhkan ta prostima, alla den epikyrwqhke ayto poy onomasthke hqikh kyrwsh, logw ths anadromikothtas ths sxetikhs apofashs. Yphrje ekei mia nomikh-episthmonikh diafwnia. Ayto kai monon odhghse stis teleytaies ejelijeis.

Xarakthristiko -qa prosqeta- an qelete, kai ws deigma toy pws pragmatika to PASOK xeiristhke kai to qema ths ypodeijhs proswpwn ws melwn toy ESR kai toy pws xwris kamia parembash apo thn pleyra toy PASOK leitoyrghse mexri twra to organo, einai to gegonos oti kai oi opoies parathrhseis proerxontai kyriws apo ayta ta melh. Den akoysa, mexri twra, apo aytoys poy ypodeixthkan apo ta alla kommata kai exoyn leitoyrghsei ws melh toy Symboylioy erwthmatika gia thn anejarthth stash toys. Antiqeta exw dei arketoys apo aytoys na synexizoyn na leitoyrgoyn me prwth thn idiothta toy kommatikoy stelexoys, na ekdidoyn anakoinwseis dia twn Grafeiwn Typoy twn kommatwn toys klp.

To qema ths anejarthsias epikentrwnetai, mpainei se mia axlh, h opoia einai sto poios qa ekdidei thn prajh. Kai ftanei o k. Kwnstantopoylos na proteinei oti ayto prepei na ginetai xwris elegxo kai epopteia apo thn ektelestikh ejoysia me monh anafora sthn Epitroph Qesmwn kai Diafaneias ths Boylhs. Einai profanes oti thn idia stigmh gnwrizei opoios to yposthrizei ayto, oti mia tetoia qesh kai diamorfwsh toy qesmikoy plaisioy qa htan ektos toy isxyontos shmera syntagmatikoy plaisioy. Einai ena qema poy syzhthqhke kai otan katateqhke to prwto nomosxedio gia to Synhgoro toy Polith kai yparxoyn sxetikes epishmanseis ths Episthmonikhs Epitrophs. Einai ena qema poy syzhthqhke, epishs, sto plaisio twn koinoboyleytikwn syzhthsewn gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos.

Katalhgw:

Yphrje h paraithsh toy Proedroy toy ESR. O ypoyrgos Typoy, ws ofeilei ek toy nomoy, exei zhthsei hdh me eggrafo toy pros ton Proedro ths Boylhs, thn ypodeijh toy antikatastath toy. Molis exoyme thn sxetikh ypodeijh apo ton Proedro ths Boylhs, qa topoqethqei o neos Proedros toy ESR.

Ean yparjoyn alles paraithseis -dioti diabazw diafora ston Typo, xwris na yparxei kamia epishmh enhmerwsh toy ypoyrgeioy- qa akoloyqhqei h diadikasia poy problepetai apo to nomo. Opws gnwrizete, dynhtikes paraithseis den yparxoyn. Den yparxei... "oligon paraithsh", sth nomikh pragmatikothta. Oso ta melh paramenoyn stis qeseis toys, exoyn oles tis eyqynes kai tis ypoxrewseis poy problepontai apo to nomo.

Emeis, qa synexisoyme na antimetwpizoyme to ESR ws enan apolytws aparaithto qesmo, ws mia anejarthth dioikhtikh arxh poy prepei pragmatika na leitoyrgei anejarthta, me kyria eyqynh twn melwn toy prwta apo ola, gia na petyxoyme pragmatika na synexisoyme, me oson to dynaton grhgoroteroys ryqmoys, sthn epiteyjh aytoy toy triptyxoy poy apotelei to epistegasma ths politikhs kai poy epanalambanw einai: diafaneia, nomimothta, poiothta sto xwro twn radiothleoptikwn meswn ths xwras mas.

Elpizoyme oloi osoi emplekontai, pera apo thn kybernhsh, se ayth th diadikasia, na kinhqoyn me tis idies arxes. Ean ayto symbei, mporoyme pragmatika na proxwrhsoyme me poly kalyteres synqhkes.

MIXAHL: Ektimate eseis oti kapoia melh toy ESR, pio sygkekrimena apo to Proedreio, exoyn politika kinhtra h opoiasdhpote morfhs alla kinhtra, etsi wste me th stash toys na dyskoleyoyn thn kybernhsh sthn politikh, genikotera, sto ti qa prajei ston ekdotiko xwro;

AQANASAKHS: Ayth th stigmh den mporw na pw -kai perissotero den mporw na dhlwsw- kati poy na anaferetai sta kinhtra opoioydhpote anqrwpoy. Periegraca mia katastash opws thn antilambanomaste emeis kai pisteyw oti kanw akribh perigrafh ths pragmatikothtas. Apo kei kai pera, gia tis skopimothtes, ta kinhtra h oti allo, an yparxei, parakalw na mas bohqhsete kai eseis me ta reportaz sas.

MIXAHL: An qelete na sas bohqhsoyme me ta reportaz mas, k. Ekproswpe, einai panqomologoymeno toso kai apo ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs -kai apo ton k. Karamanlh eidikws kai apo ton k. Kwnstantopoylo- kai apo tis dhlwseis poy exoyn kanei ta melh toy ESR me thn prosfath krish, oti to problhma den einai oyte nomiko, oyte typiko, oyte hqiko.

AQANASAKHS: Ti einai akribws, gia na katalabw, dhladh;

MIXAHL: Einai poly apla to ejhs: Oti qeloyn na exoyn thn apolyth kyriarxia gia thn epibolh kyrwsewn h otidhpote allo ws ESR kai h kybernhsh ektima oti den mporei na toys dwsei ayto to dikaiwma, mono kai mono giati ayto qa ths dhmioyrghsei problhmata enocei piqanologoymenwn eklogwn...

AQANASAKHS: Oxi. To enocei klp., den isxyei.

MIXAHL: To an isxyei h oxi, mporei na mhn isxyei gia sas. Isxyei omws gia thn afethria ths skechs ths dikhs toys.

AQANASAKHS: To pws skeptetai o kaqenas einai diko toy qema. Sas lew omws to ejhs: Qa eixe mia bash olh ayth h syzhthsh kai aytoi oi foboi, ean sth makra seira twn apofasewn toy ESR, yphrxan problhmata ws pros thn ekdosh toys. To mono to opoio exei na kanei h kybernhsh einai o elegxos nomimothtas kai h ekdosh ths sxetikhs apofashs. Gnwrizoyn oloi osoi asxoloyntai me ta qemata ayta oti to ean mia anejarthth dioikhtikh arxh -oxi monon to ESR- mporei na ftasei na ths ekxwrhqei kai h eyqynh ths ekdoshs ths telikhs prajhs, einai ena qema toylaxiston anoixto se syzhthsh, se nomiko epipedo kai exei na kanei kai me to syntagmatiko plaisio. Ean eixame paradeigmata enos ariqmoy apofasewn toy ESR poy den eixan epikyrwqei kai ekdoqei apo to ypoyrgeio, tote qa elega oti yparxei mia bash syzhthshs. Sas janalew oti apo to synolo twn apofasewn to problhma paroysiasthke monon me meros triwn ej aytwn. Yphrje -an qelete na mpw kai sto sygkekrimeno- to qema toy an eixe th dynatothta to Symboylio na epibalei hqikes kyrwseis. Se mia prwth fash epebale, xwris na yparxei safhs ryqmish sto nomo poy na toy dinei ayto to dikaiwma. Ayth h kybernhsh kai aytos o ypoyrgos Typoy phgan sth Boylh, meta apo ayto, kai gia na katoxyrwsoyn to ESR, eishghqhkan th nomoqethsh ths dynatothtas toy Symboylioy na epiballei ayto poy exoyme synhqisei na leme "hqikh kyrwsh", pera apo ta prostima. Me eyqynh kai nomoqetikh prwtoboylia toy ypoyrgoy Typoy kai ths kybernhshs egine ayth h ryqmish. Sth synexeia oi apofaseis oi opoies epiblhqhkan, oi treis hqikes kyrwseis, anetrexan kai pali se xrono prin apo ayth th nomoqethsh, thn opoia -sas janalew- ayto to ypoyrgeio kai aytos o ypoyrgos eishghqhkan.

Pisteyw oti, an kaneis dei ta pragmata me kalh qelhsh kai kalh pisth, qa apodexqei oti h pragmatikothta einai ayth h opoia perigrafw. To ypoyrgeio Typoy kai h kybernhsh, den exoyn kanena logo na briskontai se sygkroysh me opoiadhpote anejarthth arxh, poly perissotero me to ESR, to opoio exei na epitelesei, sto diko mas xwro, ena terastio ergo. Einai qema stashs kaqe meloys toy. Pisteyw oti oi idioi qa paroyn tis apofaseis toys. Apo th dikh mas pleyra qa kanoyme oti einai dynato gia na mhn yparjei keno se aytes tis leitoyrgies.

Sas eyxaristw kai kalo Sabbatokyriako.


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