Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-10-15

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 15 Oktwbrioy 1999

Geia sas.

* Se oti afora thn apagwgh kai omhria toy Ellhna ajiwmatikoy Giwrgoy Kopanoy kai twn allwn melwn ths apostolhs toy OHE, sthn Ampxazia, einai se ejelijh epafes kai synennohseis me toys apagwgeis. Ta teleytaia thlegrafhmata twn eidhseografikwn praktoreiwn apo th Gewrgia anaferoyn oti oi apagwgeis zhtoyn eggyhseis gia thn asfalh apoxwrhsh toys. To bebaio -kai ayto poy mporw na sas pw egw- einai oti oi arxes ths Gewrgias exoyn pragmati apokatasthsei epafh me toys apagwgeis, ekproswpwntas kai ton Organismo Hnwmenwn Eqnwn se ayth th diadikasia. Parakoloyqoyme apo poly konta olh ayth th diadikasia sto plaisio, poy kai xqes sas anefera, me kyriarxo stoixeio thn prospaqeia na mhn yparjei blabh sth zwh twn omhrwn kai na epiteyxqei h apeleyqerwsh toys. Apo ellhnikhs pleyras, klimakio me enan Ellhna ajiwmatiko kai ena diplwmath exei metabei sth Gewrgia, etsi wste na exoyme thn plhresterh dynath eikona gia thn ejelijh toy qematos aytoy. Elpizoyme kai eyxomaste gia to kalytero kai kataballoyme kaqe prospaqeia gia th qetikh epilysh toy.

* Epitrecte moy twra kai dyo eisagwgikes parathrhseis:

Prwton: Xqes, o Proedros ths Neas Dhmokratias k. Karamanlhs paroysiase tis qeseis toy kommatos toy, protaseis -programma, opws to onomase- gia thn Paideia. Yphrje analytikh apanthsh toy ypoyrgoy Paideias k. Arsenh -shmeio pros shmeio, qesh pros qesh- h opoia dinei akribws thn eikona ths agnoias, ths proxeirothtas kai ths opisqodromhshs poy xarakthrizei tis protaseis ths N. D. Den qa ypeiselqw, kai den einai edw o xwros gia na mpoyme sth syzhthsh, shmeio-shmeio, gia ta qemata ayta. Sas parapempw stis analytikotates apanthseis toy ypoyrgoy Paideias. Qa kanw, omws, mia genikh anafora, ena genikotero sxolio:

Apo tis ekloges toy 1996 ews twra, h N. D. miloyse gia programma kai programma den emfanize. Eixame, dhladh, ena "programma fantasma" ths N. D. O k. Karamanlhs, panta elege, "gnwrizete to programma mas, gnwrizete tis qeseis mas", alla an tis anazhtoyses se xarti den tis ebriskes. Twra, o k. Karamanlhs kai h N. D., anagkazontai ek twn pragmatwn, eite to qeloyn, eite den to qeloyn, na paroysiasoyn kapoia sygkekrimena pragmata, se tomeis ths politikhs, kapoies sygkekrimenes qeseis. Toylaxiston oso to mporoyn. Ayto einai kati idiaitera qetiko, kata thn apoch moy, dioti kai sygkekrimenes apanthseis qa pairnoyn kai qa mporoyn na kriqoyn apo ton ellhniko lao gi` ayta poy lene kai gi` ayta poy proteinoyn. Qa mporoyn na kriqoyn panw sta sygkekrimena qemata. Kai h mexri twra empeiria, deixnei oti ayto poy qa blepoyme mprosta mas, qa einai h proxeirothta kai h agnoia, o erasitexnismos kai h adynamia sygkrothshs pragmatikhs politikhs protashs apo th Nea Dhmokratia.

Deyteron: Parathreitai oles aytes tis hmeres -to blepete kai eseis pisteyw- mia prospaqeia ths N. D. na epibalei mia antiparaqesh ojynshs kai polwshs. Einai kati poy, an kyriarxoyse sthn politikh zwh, qa th dhlhthriaze me eyqynh ths N. D. Ton ellhniko lao den ton apasxoloyn oi diafores "shmaies eykairias" poy, kata kairoys, shkwnei h N. D., gia na ojynei thn politikh antiparaqesh kai na polwsei to politiko klima. O topos exei anagkh apo staqerothta, apo staqerh poreia, gia thn epiteyjh twn megalwn stoxwn poy exoyme mprosta mas, mesa sthn epomenh periodo. H kybernhsh me apofasistikothta qa staqei apenanti se ayta ta fainomena kai qa synexisei to ergo ths gia thn epiteyjh aytwn twn megalwn stoxwn.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Se oti afora to qema ths apagwghs twn omhrwn sthn Ampxazia, yparxei qema lytrwn kai an nai, ti ginetai me ayto;

AQANASAKHS: Den yparxei kati sygkekrimeno gia syzhthsh. Oi xeirismoi poy ginontai, ginontai epi topoy.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Exei ginei dhlwsh apo ton k. Apostolakh. Zhtoyntai amesws. Qa toys doqoyn;

AQANASAKHS: Sas lew, loipon, oti den qewrw skopimo na anoijw, ayth th stigmh, mia tetoia syzhthsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Shmera, erxetai h basilissa ths Ispanias sthn Ellada. Giati h kybernhsh den anakoinwse thn episkech ths kai plhroforhqhkame gia thn episkech ths sthn Ellada apo jeno praktoreio;

AQANASAKHS: Pragmati, h basilissa Sofia ths Ispanias pragmatopoiei idiwtikh episkech sth xwra mas, apo shmera ews kai thn Trith, poy problepetai h anaxwrhsh ths. Gia to programma ths idiwtikhs ayths episkechs, opws exei diamorfwqei -to eida kai egw prin apo ligo, dioti htan ypo diamorfwsh- den yphrje kamia apokrych. Ejalloy to gegonos oti qa egkainiasei, th Deytera to brady, sthn Eqnikh Pinakoqhkh, thn ekqesh El Gkeko -gia thn opoia, ej oswn gnwrizw, exei erqei- einai kati gnwsto. Htan gnwsto apo kairo oti yphrxe periptwsh h basilissa ths Ispanias na egkainiasei thn ekqesh ayth.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yphrxe h den yphrxe periptwsh, h basilissa ths Ispanias exei klhqei apo to ypoyrgeio Politismoy gia thn ekqesh ayth. H Eqnikh Pinakoqhkh den einai idiwtikh. Anhkei sto ypoyrgeio Politismoy. Giati, epomenws, den anakoinwqhke h afijh ths Ispanidas basilissas sthn Ellada kai jafnika to maqame, xqes, apo jeno praktoreio;

AQANASAKHS: Einai mia idiwtikh episkech ths basilissas ths Ispanias sthn Ellada.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Problepetai kai synanthsh me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias;

AQANASAKHS: O Proedros ths Dhmokratias qa paraqesei deipno, sth basilissa ths Ispanias, to meshmeri ths Kyriakhs.

PEFANH: Qa hqela na epanelqw sto qema toy k. Karamanlh, o opoios epimenei sto zhthma toy olympiakoy binteolotto. Malista, synanthqhke nwritera me ton Proedro ths Boylhs kai zhthse thn parembash toy.

AQANASAKHS: Den gnwrizw thn episkech ayth toy k. Karamanlh ston Proedro ths Boylhs kai kata synepeia den gnwrizw poia qemata toy eqese. Ypoqetw oti h synanthsh ayth qa egine prin apo ligo.

PEFANH: Nai, egine prin apo ligo kai egine ek neoy epiqesh sthn kybernhsh. Eipe oti qa gemisei h xwra me ayta ta mhxanhmata. Ayta...

AQANASAKHS: Apantw me bash thn erwthsh gia to sygkekrimeno qema toy binteolotto, giati den exw plhroforhsh, ayth th stigmh, gia to periexomeno ths synanthshs toy k. Karamanlh me ton Proedro ths Boylhs. Aposyndew thn apanthsh moy apo th synanthsh poy anaferete. Apanthsa kai xqes. Milhsa poly sygkekrimena, gia olo ayto to qema. O OPAP einai enas Organismos, poy -einai gnwsto- exei dhmioyrghqei gia th diejagwgh tyxerwn paixnidiwn. Apo ton Organismo ayto 100 disekatommyria to xrono diatiqentai gia ton ellhniko aqlhtismo kai ton politismo. Sygkekrimena pragmata eipa xqes kai gia to qema toy binteolotto. Epanalambanw, epeidh orismenoi fainetai oti den blepoyn kaqara:

Prwton, h desmeysh gia "olympiako laxeio" yphrxe stis protaseis kai sto fakelo gia th diekdikhsh ths Olympiadas toy 1996, sto fakelo poy sygkrothqhke to 1990 apo thn kybernhsh ths N. D.

Deyteron, h problech gia esoda, me ayton ton tropo, ycoys, toylaxiston, 70 disekatommyriwn gia ton proypologismo twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn, exei enswmatwqei stis desmeyseis mas sth Symbash me th DOE.

Triton, yparxei sygkekrimenh problech gia thn katanomh twn esodwn, apo ayto to laxeio, pera apo toys Olympiakoys Agwnes, poy einai 45% ston Aqlhtismo, 45% ston Politismo, 5% gia thn Ellhnikh Olympiakh Epitroph kai 5% gia thn Arxaia Olympia kai thn eyryterh perioxh toy Nomoy Hleias.

Diejagetai gi ayto ton skopo dieqnhs diagwnismos, h prokhryjh kai oi diadikasies toy opoioy exoyn diamorfwqei apo dieyrymenes, egkyres kai ajiopistes epitropes. S` ayto to shmeio briskomaste twra. Exoyn chfistei sth Boylh, sto parelqon, tria nomosxedia, gi ayto to qema, exoyn ekdoqei Proedrika Diatagmata, ypoyrgikes apofaseis, xwris ayth thn entash kai antidrash, poy emfanizetai ayth th stigmh.

Shmera, briskomaste mprosta s` ayth thn antidrash, h opoia entassetai mesa sto genikotero klima ths ojynshs, poy sas eipa prin. Epistrateyei barytatoys xarakthrismoys gia thn kybernhsh, opws "kybernhsh tzogoy", "kybernhsh koyloxerhdwn", paragnwrizei, agnoei ola ta stoixeia, agnoei ola ta dedomena kai epixeirei na dhlhthriasei thn politikh zwh toy topoy.

Olympiaka laxeia eixan sxedon oles oi xwres poy diorganwsan Olympiakoys Agwnes. Anefera xqes to paradeigma ths Aystralias. Binteolotto leitoyrgoyn se dekades xwres, metajy twn opoiwn kai oi perissoteres -an oxi oles- oi eyrwpaikes. Kai leitoyrgoyn s` oles aytes tis xwres kai gia enan prosqeto logo, ton opoio kai xqes emmesws anefera kai shmera qa epanalabw: Dioti qewreitai o katallhloteros tropos gia na xtyphqei to paranomo kyklwma, ta paranoma mhxanakia, hlektronikwn paixnidiwn. Aytos einai enas parallhlos stoxos, o opoios kai sth xwra mas qa epiteyxqei. Miloyme gia terastio tziro. Ayth th stigmh, o kyklos me ta paranoma mhxanakia, ypologizetai oti kanei ethsio tziro ths tajhs twn 500 disekatommyriwn. Se olo ton kosmo, stis perissoteres xwres, me ton elegxo enos nomimoy paixnidioy, exei katorqwqei na xtyphqoyn ta paranoma kyklwmata.

Eipa kai xqes kai tonizw jana:

Prwton, opoios exei opoiodhpote stoixeio -kai o k. Karamanlhs an nomizete oti exei opoiodhpote stoixeio- na to paei sta armodia organa ths Politeias, na to paei stoys Eisaggeleis. Sygkekrimena, omws, kai me thn eyqynh twn logwn toy.

Deyteron, ta symferonta den ta yphretoyn oi anoiktoi, dhmosioi, dieqneis, diafaneis diagwnismoi. Antiqetws, ta symferonta mporei na ta yphrethsoyn oi krayges kai oi aneyqynothtes, oi opoies mporei, isws, na dhmioyrghsoyn problhma sthn proselkysh jenwn ependytwn -milame gia mia poly megalh ependysh- me thn elpida oti qa apobei agonos o diagwnismos h oti qa perioristoyn oi endiaferomenoi.

Telos, otan blepoyme sth Boylh, oti gia prwth fora, to qema poy enwse oles tis koryfes ths N. D. -dyo epitimoys arxhgoys kai enan ypochfio epitimo arxhgo- einai to qema ayto, kai malista me tis krayges gia "kybernhsh tzogadorwn, koyloxerhdwn" k. lp., dikaioymai na epistrecw toys xarakthrismoys kai na milhsw gia antipoliteysh koyloxerhdwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Lete oti stoxos einai na xtyphqoyn ta paranoma kyklwmata....

AQANASAKHS: Einai parallhlos stoxos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, ayto to binteolotto qa paei synexeia; To lew, giati, ap` oti, gnwrizw qa paei gia dekatessera xronia.

AQANASAKHS: O diagwnismos einai gia dekatessera xronia. Me rwthsate, xqes kai sas edwsa mia emmesh apanthsh, sas parepemca na deite toys proypologismoys kai oles tis alles probleceis. Ayto olo to systhma -kai ayto eipa kai prin- einai mia poly megalh ependysh. Me toys oroys me toys opoioys ginetai, kaneis den qa erqei na ependysei p. x. 40 disekatommyria gia dyo h tria xronia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh epikalesthkate kai alles xwres, opws thn Aystralia, ekei den leitoyrgei ayto to laxeio poy ekane, meta toys Olympiakoys Agwnes. Enw, edw, qa leitoyrgei kai meta to 2004.

AQANASAKHS: Sas ejhghsa gi ayto. Sas eipa oti yparxei kai o parallhlos stoxos, ton opoio rhta anaferw.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Meta to 2004 olympiako binteolotto qa to leme;

AQANASAKHS: Mporeite meta to 2004 na eishghqeite thn allagh ths onomasias kai h eishghsh sas qa ektimhqei, tote.

SOYRMELH: H Dieqnhs Olympiakh Epitroph eixe egkrinei to olympiako laxeio. Symfwnei, twra, me to binteolotto;

AQANASAKHS: H problech einai gia ena olympiako laxeio. Ta teleytaia xronia, apo tote, dhladh, poy eginan oi sxetikes syzhthseis, yparxei -kai sthn Ellada kai se olo ton kosmo- mia fqinoysa poreia twn laxeiwn kai mia ayjhtikh poreia twn antistoixwn hlektronikwn paixnidiwn. Ayto den mporeis na mhn to labeis ypoch soy, otan, malista, exeis prosdiorisei kai sygkekrimena ych esodwn poy prosdokas se sygkekrimenoys xronoys. Ayto to laxeio problepetai oti qa dwsei, toylaxiston, 70 dis gia ton proypologismo twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn.

SOYRMELH: To poso ayto problepotan apo to olympiako laxeio. Oi symboyloi sas katelhjan oti to binteolotto qa sas dwsei ayta ta lefta, enw to olympiako laxeio den qa sas ta dwsei;

AQANASAKHS: Gi ayto akribws to qema egine mia oloklhrh syzhthsh sth Boylh, otan nomoqethqhke to hlektroniko paixnidi. Sas parapempw se ayta ta praktika.

SOYRMELH: Ayto poy rwtaw einai: H Dieqnhs Olympiakh Epitroph einai symfwnh, gnwrizei thn allagh;

AQANASAKHS: Mporw na to elegjw, alla den nomizw oti yparxei tetoia anagkh symfwnias. H symfwnia einai gia th leitoyrgia laxeioy gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pote h kybernhsh prokeitai na paei sth Boylh th symbash gia tis meionothtes;

AQANASAKHS: Den exw thn poreia ths hmerhsias diatajhs. Qa rwthsw to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn pws programmatizei to nomoqetiko toy ergo kai qa sas apanthsw.

Eyxaristw poly.

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