Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-09-03

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 3 Septembrioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

* Symplhrwnontai shmera 25 xronia apo thn idrysh toy PASOK. To PASOK poy kyberna kata to megalytero diasthma ths metapoliteytikhs periodoy, dikaiwnei toys logoys ths idryshs toy, antapokrinetai stis prosdokies toy ellhnikoy laoy. Qa synexisoyme na antimetwpizoyme me epityxia kai tis nees proklhseis, mprosta sto neo aiwna, gia na kanoyme prajh to orama mas gia mia isxyrh Ellada, me oikonomikh anaptyjh, eyhmeria kai koinwnikh dikaiosynh, me politikh staqerothta kai eqnikh ajioprepeia, me enisxysh toy dieqnoys roloy ths, prokeimenoy na prwtagwnistei stis ejelijeis sthn perioxh kai na symmetexei isotima stis pagkosmies ejelijeis.

* Gnwrizete tis ejaggelies stis opoies proebh o Prwqypoyrgos, sto plaisio ths askoymenhs oikonomikhs politikhs. Qelw na epishmanw oti oi ejaggelies aytes -mia apo tis opoies tiqetai amesws se efarmogh, me sxetikh diatajh poy exei katateqei sth Boylh kai qa chfistei amesws, alles de qa perilhfqoyn sto ypo katartish forologiko nomosxedio h ton epomeno proypologismo- apodeiknyoyn th dynamh ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. H epityxhs askhsh ths oikonomikhs politikhs mas dinei th dynatothta na proxwrhsoyme se ayth th desmh metrwn, h opoia einai swsta melethmenh kai sxediasmenh, wste afenos na mh qetei se paramikro kindyno thn poreia ths xwras pros thn ONE kai afeteroy na enisxyei thn ptyxh ths koinwnikhs dikaiosynhs poy diapneei thn politikh mas. Me to pleonasma, to opoio exoyme dhmioyrghsei me th symparastash toy ellhnikoy laoy, me toys kopoys kai tis qysies toy kai me th metafora porwn apo kerdofores drasthriothtes se koinwnika strwmata kai polites poy exoyn anagkh aytoys toys poroys, poy exoyn anagkh th bohqeia olwn mas, dhmioyrgoyme ena neo oikonomiko kai koinwniko periballon. Epanalambanw oti oi ryqmiseis stis opoies proxwra h kybernhsh antapokrinontai toso stis epidiwjeis mas gia enisxysh ths anaptyjhs, oso kai sthn epiqymia mas na enisxysoyme ton tomea ths koinwnikhs dikaiosynhs.

Lypoymai giati h kritikh poy askeitai apo ta kommata ths Antipoliteyshs einai mikrocyxh h kai kakopisth. Den anagnwrizei to epiteygma ths kybernhshs poy odhgei shmera toys polites sto na apolambanoyn ta agaqa apotelesmata ayths ths politikhs. Einai mia kritikh, h opoia einai ektos topoy kai xronoy, giati enw h kybernhsh exei me safh tropo diatypwsei th qesh ths oti epiqymei -kai gi` ayto ergazetai- oi ekloges na ginoyn to Septembrio toy 2000, polloi katafeygoyn sto na thn kathgoroyn isxyrizomenoi oti gia logoys proeklogikoys, gia logoys entypwsewn, probainei se aytes tis ejaggelies. Ayto den antapokrinetai sthn alhqeia. Gia mia akomh fora apodeiknyetai oti h kybernhsh, h paratajh mas einai h monh poy exei oloklhrwmeno sxedio kai programma gia thn oikonomikh politikh, opws kai gia ola ta qemata poy apasxoloyn thn ellhnikh koinwnia, enw h Antipoliteysh -idiaiterws, malista, h Ajiwmatikh Antipoliteysh- periorizetai se sxoliasmo twn dikwn mas prwtoboyliwn. Kai ayto epeidh adynatei na proteinei sygkekrimenes politikes. Adynatei na analabei prwtoboylies. Epididetai, aplws, se "katastrofiko paixnidi". Ayto einai kati poy to epishmainoyme. Pisteyoyme oti to lambanoyn sobara ypoch oloi oi Ellhnes polites, oi opoioi timoyn thn prospaqeia poy kanei o Prwqypoyrgos, h kybernhsh kai to PASOK gia th dhmioyrgia ths isxyrhs Elladas, se antiqesh me oloys ekeinoys poy, me ta cemata twn logwn toys, prospaqoyn na yponomeysoyn thn poreia ayth, mono kai mono gia na antipoliteyqoyn thn kybernhsh.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, den eixa, xqes, thn eykairia kai qewrw skopimo na sas rwthsw shmera gia th nea stygnh dolofonia Ellhnokyprioy sta katexomena: Pws skeptetai na drasei h Ellada kai na enhmerwsei thn pagkosmia koinothta gi` ayto poy ginetai, apo th mia pleyra, h Ellada na qysiazetai gia thn Toyrkia kai apo thn allh h Toyrkia na dolofonei Ellhnokyprioys;

REPPAS: Ayth h kthnwdhs energeia apodokimazetai apo oloys toys paragontes sthn Kypro, akomh kai sta katexomena. H ellhnikh kybernhsh exei enhmerwqei apo thn kybernhsh ths Kyproy, h opoia exei probei se oles tis aparaithtes energeies, prokeimenoy na enhmerwqoyn oi dieqneis organismoi. Analambanontai, apo koinoy, prwtoboylies, me stoxo na katastei apolytws safes sto dieqnh paragonta oti h diaiwnish aytoy toy kaqestwtos sthn Kypro apotelei phgh deinwn kai mono kai oti prepei, epiteloys, na antimetwpistei to kypriako problhma sto synolo toy. Gia to sygkekrimeno peristatiko, gi` ayth thn egklhmatikh energeia, exoyn epilhfqei ta armodia organa. H kybernhsh ths Kyproy parakoloyqei poly stena, to pws ejelissontai oi ereynes. Elpizoyme na lamcei h alhqeia kai na apodoqei dikaiosynh. Mexri teloys, qa parakoloyqhsoyme ki emeis ayth thn ypoqesh. Briskw thn eykairia -ki edw, dhmosia- na ekfrasw ta syllyphthria mas stoys oikeioys toy adikoxamenoy Xarpa, o opoios einai qyma mias katastashs poy apotelei anoikth plhgh sto kormi ths Eyrwphs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati merika apo ayta poy ejhggeile, xqes, o Prwqypoyrgos, einai idia me ayta poy eipe o k. Karamanlhs;

REPPAS: Sas parapempw sthn anakoinwsh poy ekana thn hmera ekeinh, poy milhse o k. Karamanlhs. Eipa oti peran twn aoristologiwn gia tis opoies, allwste, mas exei synhqisei, dianqise thn omilia poy ekane, sto plaisio ekeinhs ths synenteyjhs Typoy, anaparagontas dhmosieymata, ta opoia anaferontan stoys sxediasmoys ths kybernhshs, enocei twn xqesinwn ejaggeliwn apo ton Prwqypoyrgo. Ayta ta opoia eipe o k. Karamanlhs den htan tipote allo para kapoies skeceis, kapoia senaria, ta opoia eixan dei to fws ths dhmosiothtas kai eixan thn afethria toys stoys sxediasmoys ths kybernhshs, enocei anakoinwsewn gia thn oikonomikh politikh thn epomenh periodo. Qa mporoyse o k. Karamanlhs ola ayta na ta eixe anakoinwsei poly prin. Qa mporoyse na eixe tekmhriwsei thn probolh aytwn twn dhqen prwtoboyliwn toy me sygkekrimena oikonomika stoixeia. Den to ekane giati den ta gnwrize. Kai den ta gnwrize giati oi anakoinwseis stis opoies proebh apoteloysan syrrafh epiqymiwn kai htan dhmagwgikes. Htan mia akrath kai akrith yposxesiologia. Den htan apotelesma mias tekmhriwmenhs analyshs twn ariqmhtikwn kai oikonomikwn dedomenwn, opws symbainei me tis ejaggelies tis opoies ekane o Prwqypoyrgos. Ayth einai h megalh diafora.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, moy lete oti ayta poy eipe o Prwqypoyrgos einai "aoristologies", "akrath yposxesiologia" kai "dhmagwgia";

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos milhse tekmhriwmena me bash ariqmhtika kai oikonomika dedomena. Milhse gia sygkekrimena metra, ta opoia exoyn sygkekrimeno kostos, to opoio anefere -giati, bebaiws, to epiteleio ths kybernhshs gnwrizei poio einai to kostos kaqe metroy poy ejaggelletai, enw h N. D. den to gnwrizei kai den ekane th analogh ajiologhsh- opws epishs, aneferqh se metra, opws einai h katarghsh twn antikeimenikwn krithriwn, ta opoia, edw kai arketo kairo, exoyn apotelesei, ws geniko plaisio politikhs, desmeyseis ths kybernhshs. Kata ta alla kai en telei, an pragmatika o k. Karamanlhs eipe ta idia me ton Prwqypoyrgo qa perimename apo th N. D. na xeirokrothsei tis anakoinwseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy, pragma to opoio den ekane. Fainetai oti enoxlhqhke. Oxi bebaiws epeidh... "eklaph pneymatikh idiokthsia ths" oson afora ta metra, alla epeidh akribws antilambanetai pws xanei pantelws th dynatothta na exei ekeinh thn prwtoboylia twn kinhsewn. Allwste, den qa mporoyse na einai diaforetika.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia toys syntajioyxoys o Prwqypoyrgos ti ejhggeile;

REPPAS: Oson afora toys syntajioyxoys toy OGA, o Prwqypoyrgos ejhggeile poly sygkekrimena metra: Ayjhsh twn syntajewn kata 10.000. Epipleon, oson afora toys 360.000 polites poy pairnoyn to Epidoma Koinwnikhs Allhleggyhs (EKAS), anakoinwse oti to epidoma ayto, apo 18.000 draxmes, ayjanetai stis 21.000 draxmes. Eipe akomh oti gia to synolo twn syntajioyxwn toy Dhmosioy qa ginoyn pio sygkekrimenes anakoinwseis tis epomenes hmeres kai oti problepetai sto plaisio ths eisodhmatikhs politikhs na doqei ayjhsh h opoia qa yperbainei th genikh eisodhmatikh politikh poy qa isxysei thn epomenh periodo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poso;

REPPAS: Oi anakoinwseis, tis opoies kanoyme emeis, einai apotelesma systhmatikhs meleths.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Aoristes einai.

REPPAS: Einai poly sygkekrimenes. Milame me sygkekrimenoys ariqmoys, toys opoioys exoyme tekmhriwsei me th doyleia poy exoyme kanei, toso gia thn proeleysh twn xrhmatwn ta opoia qa xrhsimopoihsoyme, prokeimenoy na enisxysoyme aytes tis koinwnikes omades, oso, bebaiws kai gia tis omades ekeines twn politwn poy qewroyme oti prepei na exoyn thn proteraiothta, oson afora thn apo meroys mas epideijh ayths ths enisxymenhs koinwnikhs eyaisqhsias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ariqmo qa mas peite;

REPPAS: Mhn perimenete na anakoinwsw shmera kati, to opoio qa kanei o Prwqypoyrgos tis epomenes hmeres.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Lete oti den eipe "aoristologies" o Prwqypoyrgos; Sygkekrimena...;

REPPAS: Qa ginei kai ayto sthn wra toy. As kanoyme mia symfwnia, k. Stamatopoyle, h opoia pisteyw oti einai politika entimh! Oson afora toys syntajioyxoys toy Dhmosioy, swsta lete, oti den htan sygkekrimenos o Prwqypoyrgos. Fantazomai, omws, oti oson afora tis meiwseis stis times toy petrelaioy kai tis meiwseis twn timwn twn aytokinhtwn htan sygkekrimenos. Oson afora tis foroapallages gia toys goneis, analogws toy ariqmoy twn paidiwn toys, htan sygkekrimenos. Oson afora thn ayjhsh toy aforologhtoy orioy htan sygkekrimenos. Oson afora thn katarghsh twn antikeimenikwn krithriwn htan apolytws sygkekrimenos. Oson afora th meiwsh toy forologikoy syntelesth stis proswpikes etaireies htan apolytws sygkekrimenos. Oson afora tis agrotikes syntajeis htan apolytws sygkekrimenos. Oson afora to epidoma anergias htan apolytws sygkekrimenos. Oson afora th dwrean iatrofarmakeytikh periqalch twn anergwn, anejarthtws hlikias, htan apolytws sygkekrimenos. Oson afora thn ergodotikh eisfora, h opoia meiwnetai kata 50%, htan apolytws sygkekrimenos. Oson afora to epidoma twn xamhlosyntajioyxwn htan apolytws sygkekrimenos. Kai, bebaiws, htan apolytws sygkekrimenos kai oson afora thn antlhsh twn porwn aytwn me thn ayjhsh ths forologhshs twn xrhmatisthriakwn synallagwn. Den htan toso sygkekrimenos, oso htan se ola ayta ta qemata, oson afora tis ayjhseis twn syntajewn toy Dhmosioy. Symfwnoyme, loipon, kai kleinoyme to qema edw. Alla, qa einai poly sygkekrimenos gia to qema ayto se liges hmeres.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati den kalyfqhke, proxqes, h synenteyjh toy k. Karamanlh kai kalyfqhke, xqes, toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

REPPAS: Epeidh ayto apotelese kai shmeio antidikias metajy N. D. kai ths ERT sas parapempw sthn apanthsh poy exei dwsei h ERT. Nomizw oti h kalych poy eixe o Proedros ths N. D. htan eparkhs me dhmosiografika kai politika -an qelete- krithria. Htan 10 leptwn h apeyqeias syndesh kai metadosh ths synenteyjhs kai, bebaiws, htan ploysio to reportaz sto plaisio twn eidhsewn kai twn enhmerwtikwn ekpompwn ths ERT. Doqhke apanthsh se ayto. Ikanopoihqhke to aithma ths N. D. opws diatypwqhke ej arxhs. Pisteyw oti den prepei na yparxei opoiodhpote parapono. H kalych poy exei, genikws, h Ajiwmatikh Antipoliteysh einai ypereparkhs. Exw sygkekrimena ariqmhtika stoixeia sth diaqesh sas. Kat` epanalhch sth Boylh ta exw kataqesei. To komma ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs kai ta stelexh ths kalyptontai kai proballontai, oson afora thn ekqesh twn apocewn toys, apo thn ERT me tropo o opoios einai prwtofanhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw rwthsa sygkekrimena gi ayth th synenteyjh gia thn opoia zhthse kalych... Giati toy dwsate 10 lepta kai giati h synenteyjh toy Prwqypoyrgoy kalyfqhke oloklhrh;

REPPAS: Eseis mporei na eiste qyma toy texnasmatos, to opoio epixeireite, mhn epixeireite, omws, na katasthsete ki emas qymata toy idioy texnasmatos! H synenteyjh Typoy toy proedroy ths N. D. dihrkese mia wra, isws kai parapanw, enw h dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, htan dhlwsh deka leptwn. Mh sygkrinete, loipon, dyo drasthriothtes oi opoies exoyn ayth th megalh diafora se oti afora th xronikh diarkeia toys. Mh lete, loipon, giati problhqhke to ena kai den problhqhke to allo. Sas eipa oti, oson afora th xronikh kalych yparxei analogia, h opoia einai oxi aplws qemith, einai -qa elega- telikws yper ths probolhs twn apocewn ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs.

MPEKAS: Giati ypobaqmisthke politika h Ekqesh Qessalonikhs kai egina aytes oi ejaggelies edw;

REPPAS: Den ypobaqmisthke h Qessalonikh. Isa-isa, qa elega, apokta mia nea dynamikh h epikeimenh paroysia kai oi omilies toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Qessalonikh, sto plaisio ths DEQ. Gnwrizete oti o Prwqypoyrgos milhse xqes gia poly sygkekrimena metra. Opws, poly kala gnwrizete oti kai shmera, alla kai ayrio, h omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy qa anaferqei sto synolo twn qematwn ths oikonomikhs politikhs. Ayto, loipon, poy egine xqes qa elega oti enisxyei to endiaferon gia thn anamenomenh omilia kai genikotera tis emfaniseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Qessalonikh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Oi xqesines ejaggelies toy Prwqypoyrgoy den egkymonoyn kindynoys, mhpws bgei h Ellada apo to dromo ths pros thn ONE;

REPPAS: Eipa sthn arxh oti einai melethmenes, sxediasmenes oles oi ejaggelies kai oti h desmh metrwn den yponomeyei, oyte sto elaxisto, thn poreia poy exoyme xarajei, poy akoloyqoyme me synepeia kai qa oloklhrwsoyme me epityxia gia thn entajh mas sthn ONE.

PEFANH: Exete kapoio sxolio gia tis xqesines dhlwseis ths toyrkikhs Kybernhshs... (den akoygetai).

REPPAS: Apo thn prwth stigmh eipame -kai xairomai poy moy dinete thn eykairia na anaferqw se ayto to qema- oti h askoymenh ejwterikh politikh sthrizetai stis arxes kai toys kanones toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy. Den allazei ayth h politikh mas, h opoia proaspizei kai diasfalizei ta eqnika symferonta. Apo thn allh, einai politikh arxwn, ayth poy akoloyqoyme, parexontas anqrwpistikh bohqeia se ena geitoniko lao poy dokimazetai apo mia krish. Qa synexisoyme ayth thn politikh. Se kaqe periptwsh, epiqymoyme na synexistei kai na oloklhrwqei me epityxia ayto to egxeirhma ths epikoinwnias kai ths syzhthshs metajy ekproswpwn twn dyo xwrwn, gia qemata opws onomasthkan "xamhlhs politikhs". Anamenoyme me endiaferon thn ejelijh ayths ths epikoinwnias, ayths ths syzhthshs. Pisteyoyme oti qa apobei pros ofelos kai twn dyo xwrwn. Giati, asfalws, efoson oi dyo xwres sebontai toys kanones toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy, throyn tis Dieqneis Synqhkes, anagnwrizoyn kai sebontai h mia thn allh kai ta dikaiwmata ths, nomizw oti h kaqe xwra qa exei kanei ena poly shmantiko bhma, prokeimenoy na dhmioyrghsoyme ena nea topio stis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, me politikh arxwn apo th mia kai politikh dolofoniwn apo thn allh, einai dynaton na broyme koinh grammh;

REPPAS: Oydeis mporei ayth thn wra na pei me ypeyqyno tropo oti to gegonos ayto, h agria ayth egklhmatikh energeia, einai systatiko stoixeio ths politikhs, h opoia kaqodhgeitai apo epishmoys ajiwmatoyxoys, eite toy toyrkikoy kratoys, eite ths ceydoejoysias twn katexomenwn. Den mporei na to pei kaneis ayto. Isa-isa, qa elega, oti kai oi katoxikes arxes exoyn epikrinei thn egklhmatikh ayth prajh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Den akoysa o k. Etsebit na kanei kapoia dhlwsh, oyte o k. Ntemirel.

REPPAS: Nomizw oti to ekane o k. Ntenktas, alla en pash periptwsei ayto den einai arketo. Ayto poy qa edine lysh sto problhma, einai ayto poy qa odhgoyse se lysh to Kypriako. To eipame kai to epanalambanoyme.

Sas eyxaristw kai kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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