Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-08-25

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 25 Aygoystoy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Qa moy epitrecete na ekfrasw kai egw th xara moy gia tis epityxies twn Ellhnidwn aqlhtriwn poy mas kanoyn yperhfanoys, oloys toys Ellhnes kai tis Ellhnides me tis epidoseis toys. Eyxomai na synexisoyn oi aqlhtes na diakrinontai kaqws ejelissetai to pagkosmio prwtaqlhma stiboy.

Qa hqela na sas enhmerwsw oti exei programmatistei episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy sthn Kina stis 15 Septembrioy. Parakalw, esas kai toys synadelfoys sas poy endiaferontai na symmetasxoyn sthn apostolh, na to dhlwsoyn sthn armodia yphresia mas, prokeimenoy na kanoyme tis deoyses energeies gia thn ekei metabash kai paramonh sas kata th diarkeia ths episkechs sthn Kina. H epistrofh qa einai stis 21 Septembrioy. H episkech ginetai sto plaisio twn dimerwn sxesewn, meta apo prosklhsh ths hgesias ths Kinas. Einai ena tajidi sto opoio apodidoyme idiaiterh shmasia. Alla, gi' ayto qa milhsoyme kai tis epomenes hmeres.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Telika eiste se qesh na mas peite, ti akribws qa prajoyme sta organa ths E. E. gyrw apo th xrhmatodothsh ths Toyrkias;

REPPAS: Qa symbaloyme sth diamorfwsh mias telikhs epiloghs apo thn E. E., wste na enisxyqei oikonomika h Toyrkia gia na antimetwpisei thn krish, sthn opoia hdh brisketai meta apo ton katastrofiko seismo.

MIXAHL: Ayto shmainei oti h qesh mas peri askhshs beto tiqetai pros syzhthsh;

REPPAS: Einai dedomenh h qesh mas na symbaloyme -kai malista me prwtagwnistiko rolo- sth lhch apofashs apo thn E. E., prokeimenoy na bohqhqei oikonomika h Toyrkia kai na jeperasei thn krish. To qema twn epimeroys apofasewn, qa to syzhthsoyme sto plaisio aytoy toy Symboylioy Ypoyrgwn. Epimeroys apofaseis, ennow ekeines oi opoies, bebaiws, anhkoyn s' ayth thn kentrikh kathgoria ths oikonomikhs enisxyshs ths Toyrkias, alla exoyn sxesh me ton tropo me ton opoio qa doqei ayth h oikonomikh bohqeia. Mporei na apofasistei ayth h paroxh oikonomikhs bohqeias ej arxhs, prokeimenoy n' antimetwpistoyn oi synepeies toy seismoy. Mporei ta xrhmata, ta opoia qa apofasistei -an apofasistei- na doqoyn sthn Toyrkia, na proerxontai apo ena neo logariasmo, o opoios qa qespistei gia thn periptwsh ayth. Ola ayta qa ta syzhthsoyme sto plaisio toy Symboylioy Ypoyrgwn. Den qewroyme oti prepei na ta syzhthsoyme twra me perissoteres leptomereies. Th dikh mas qesh th gnwrizete, thn exoyme pei.

MIXAHL: Gia thn kybernhsh olh ayth h syzhthsh, opws qa ejeidikeytei mesa sta organa, einai allo pragma apo thn poreia ths Toyrkias pros thn E. E., opoy to aithma yparxei se ekkremothta edw kai peripoy ena xrono kai einai kai sthn atzenta ths Synodoy Koryfhs toy Elsinki sto telos toy xronoy h taytizontai ayta ta dyo qemata kai miloyme oysiastika gia ena qema me dyo ekfanseis;

REPPAS: To qema ths dieyrynshs ths E. E. apotelei antikeimeno syzhthshs, opws hdh exei anakoinwqei, sto plaisio ths Synodoy Koryfhs sto Elsinki, sto telos toy xronoy. To qema ayto qa apasxolhsei isws kai toys ypoyrgoys Ejwterikwn se Symboylia ypoyrgwn, opws kai to epikeimeno Symboylio. Mporei, einai piqanon, na ginei mia prwth proseggish toy qematos. Den prokeitai bebaia na lhfqoyn apofaseis. Alla, bebaiws, ta dyo ayta qemata den sympiptoyn. Qa elega oti einai apolytws diaforetika. H paroxh bohqeias sthn Toyrkia, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisei tis synepeies toy katastrofikoy seismoy, den exei opoiadhpote sxesh me thn poreia entajhs ths Toyrkias sthn E. E., opoy ekei ta krithria kai oi proypoqeseis einai para poly safeis kai sygkekrimenes kai desmeyoyn oles tis xwres. Kai aytes poy briskontai sthn E. E. ws melh ths kai prepei na apofasisoyn gia ta nea melh kai tis xwres ekeines, oi opoies endiaferontai na entaxqoyn ws melh ths E. E. Loipon, to qema ths paroxhs oikonomikhs bohqeias gia logoys anqrwpistikoys, gia logoys allhleggyhs, gia logoys praktikoys einai ena teleiws diaforetiko qema.

MIXAHL: H kybernhsh, o armodios ypoyrgos qa ejeidikeysei th stash ths Elladas analoga me to pws qa ginei h syzhthsh. Omws prin apo ayto yparxei sth skech sas na syzhthsete problhmatismoys gyrw apo ayta ta zhthmata kai me tis alles politikes dynameis;

REPPAS: O ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn einai endexomeno na syzhthsei to qema ayto enocei toy Symboylioy twn ypoyrgwn kai me ekproswpoys twn allwn politikwn kommatwn.

BITALHS: Me ekproswpoys twn politikwn kommatwn ths antipoliteyshs h me toys arxhgoys;

REPPAS: Me ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs.

BITALHS: Den exei apofasistei an qa einai se epipedo hgesiwn;

REPPAS: Se epipedo hgesiwn epiqymoyme na ginontai aytes oi syzhthseis, alla bebaiws den qa akyrwqoyn an ta kommata epilejoyn na syzhthsoyn me ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn mesw alloy ekproswpoy toys. Me ta politika kommata einai swsto na leme. Kai ta politika kommata, pisteyw oti gia ena toso shmantiko zhthma, qa epilejoyn na ekproswphqoyn se epipedo arxhgwn kai mesw toy arxhgoy toys na to syzhthsoyn me thn hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: An dhladh yparjoyn antallagmata qa aroyme to beto kai poia antallagmata zhtame;

REPPAS: Prwta ap' ola, mhn anafereste sthn arsh toy beto san na prokeitai peri apofashs poy exei lhfqei. Den miloyme gi' ayto. Allwste ta qemata einai diaforetika. Ayto to opoio prepei na exete ypoch sas einai toyto, giati einai oristiko kai safes: h qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs einai na symbalei sth lhch mias apofashs apo thn pleyra ths E. E., prokeimenoy na bohqhqei h Toyrkia na jeperasei thn krish apo thn opoia mastizetai, dokimazetai logw toy prosfatoy seismoy. Ola ta alla qemata, qa antimetwpistoyn to kaqena stis dikes toy diastaseis. Den einai ola ta qemata idia. Yparxoyn diafores. Emeis epiqymoyme na yparjei xrhmatodothsh ths Toyrkias gia na antimetwpisei tis synepeies toy seismoy. Oson afora to qema twn xrhmatodotikwn prwtokollwn, einai diaforetiko kai qa to antimetwpisoyme stis dikes toy diastaseis. Na mhn yparxei ayth h sygxysh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Th sygxysh ayth den th dhmioyrgoyme emeis. Th dhmioyrgei to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn kai perissotero o k. Kranidiwths...

REPPAS: Kamia sygxysh den dhmioyrgei to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. To ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, h Kybernhsh exei dhlwsei safws oti qa symbalei sth lhch mias tetoias apofashs ypobohqhshs oikonomikhs ths Toyrkias. Apo ekei kai pera, to qema twn xrhmatodotikwn kanonismwn einai ena allo qema poy qa antimetwpistei analogws.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati tote anakinhse to qema toy beto o k. Kranidiwths, afoy den yphrxe tetoio problhma;

REPPAS: Kanena qema den anakinhse. Gnwrizete poly kala oti yparxoyn kondylia poy h E. E. exei sxediasei na dwsei pros thn Toyrkia, ta opoia paramenoyn "pagwmena". Den exoyn ektamieytei, den exoyn xorhghqei, logw ths ellhnikhs qeshs. Loipon, mhn to taytizoyme apolytws. Den einai akribws to idio qema to ena me to allo. Den einai idia qemata.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Sto idio qema: Apotelei ayth h prajh, an apofasisei h Ellada na arei to beto, mia allagh stis pagies ellhnikes qeseis enanti ths Toyrkias;

REPPAS: Prwta ap' ola, hmoyn safhs apo th dhlwsh poy ekana th Deytera. Kaqe xwra diathrei thn politikh ths, tis qeseis ths. To oti gia logoys allhleggyhs kai anqrwpismoy ekfrasame me ayto ton tropo th symparastash mas ws Kybernhsh kai ws laos, pros to dokimazomeno toyrkiko lao, den shmainei oti allazoyn oi qeseis oson afora thn ejwterikh politikh poy askoyme. Opws epishs, den pisteyw -kanw ayth thn ektimhsh kai nomizw basima thn kanw- oti allazei kai h politikh ths geitonikhs xwras, ths Toyrkias, sta synafh qemata. Apla, mporw na kanw ena sxolio me aformh thn erwthsh sas apenanti s' ekeinoys oi opoioi diatypwnoyn diaforoys problhmatismoys h kai anhsyxies akomh: ta eqnika symferonta mas einai apolytws diasfalismena. Oxi mono den apodynamwnontai me thn politikh poy akoloyqoyme sto sygkekrimeno qema, isa - isa qa elega oti ta ypo thn eyreia ennoia eqnika symferonta proagontai kai endynamwnontai. Ayto prepei na einai safes.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mhpws mporeite na mas peite ta apotelesmata ths episkecews toy k. Shmith sthn Albania; Giati phge; Ti akribws petyxe;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos ths xwras mas pragmatopoihse ayth thn episkech sto plaisio twn dimerwn sxesewn sta Tirana, xqes, epikefalhs kybernhtikhs antiproswpeias. Ta apotelesmata apo thn episkech ayth einai apolytws qetika. Einai o monos prwqypoyrgos xwras poy einai melos toy NATO kai ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Exei th dynatothta, loipon, na mila kai me aythn thn idiothta poy exei. O Ellhnas prwqypoyrgos episkefqhke - kai qa erqw kai sto kyriws meros twn syzhthsewn- thn ellhnikh dynamh, h opoia, opws gnwrizete, exei sygkrothqei kai paramenei sthn Albania edw kai arketo kairo. Einai h trith episkech se ellhnikh stratiwtikh dynamh se jenh xwra. Ayto deixnei thn poly shmantikh apostolh - parembash poy exei h Ellada stis ejelijeis sthn perioxh. Opws epishs gnwrizete poly kala, oti eixe th dynatothta sto plaisio twn syzhthsewn toy me ton Makariotato Arxiepiskopo Tiranwn kai pashs Albanias Anastasio na episkeftei ena sygxrono Diagnwstiko Kentro, ton "Eyaggelismo", poy leitoyrgei edw kai poly ligo kairo sta Tirana. Emmesws alla safestata egine emfanhs h paroysia poy exei h xwra mas kai me ayto ton tropo sthn Albania kai poso shmantiko rolo diadramatizoyme.

Twra, oson afora to kyriws meros twn syzhthsewn, prepei na pw oti ta apotelesmata einai parapanw apo ikanopoihtika, Giati epibebaiwqhke oti h geitonikh xwra epiqymei apo th dikh ths pleyra na symbalei, wste na antimetwpistoyn problhmata poy exoyn koino endiaferon, opws einai:

- to problhma ths laqrometanasteyshs poy prepei na antimetwpisoyme, ths fylajhs apo thn pleyra twn Arxwn kai twn Yphresiwn ths Albanias twn synorwn ths geitonikhs xwras, gia na mhn eiserxontai laqraia sthn Ellada metanastes

- to qema ths diasfalishs twn dikaiwmatwn ths ellhnikhs meionothtas, pragma to opoio, me to teleytaio Syntagma poy exei chfistei sth geitonikh xwra, pisteyoyme oti se poly ikanopoihtiko baqmo antimetwpizetai.

Ayth thn aisqhsh apokomisame apo tis syzhthseis poy eixame me thn antiproswpeia ths albanikhs kybernhshs. Allwste, ena meros twn xrhmatwn poy didetai apo thn Ellada ws bohqeia h ws daneio me eynoikoys oroys pros thn Albania, xrhsimopoieitai gia anaptyjiaka erga, gia thn antimetwpish anagkwn stis meionotikes perioxes.

Bebaiws, yparxoyn ta shmeia ekeina sta opoia den ekfrazetai taytish apocewn kai milw gia dieqnh qemata, opws ayto ths krishs sto Kossyfopedio. Ayto htan allwste anamenomeno. Gnwrizete poly kala oti h Albania htan mia apo tis dyo pleyres poy eneplakhsan s' ayth thn krish. H Ellada exei mia diaforetikh, diakrith stash. H qesh ths Elladas einai symfwnh me to Dieqnes Dikaio. Einai apolyta enarmonismenh me thn apofash 1244 toy Symboylioy Asfaleias toy OHE, poy mila gia thn antimetwpish ths krishs sto Kossyfopedio me politika mesa kai bebaiws, me th diathrhsh twn yfistamenwn synorwn ths Gioygkoslabias. Pragma to opoio fainetai oti h kybernhsh ths Albanias to dexetai men sta logia, an kai sthn prajh qa hqele mia allh ejelijh, milwntas gia th nea pragmatikothta poy diamorfwnetai.

Emeis pisteyoyme oti h nea pragmatikothta poy diamorfwnetai den mporei na odhghsei sthn allagh twn synorwn. Giati to aparabiasto twn synorwn kai o sebasmos sth diathrhsh twn yfistamenwn synorwn apoteloyn basikh proypoqesh gia th diathrhsh twn synqhkwn eirhnhs kai politikhs staqerothtas sthn perioxh.

Ayta ola einai gnwsta, ta gnwrizame apo prin. Oi qeseis kaqe kybernhshs paramenoyn gia to sygkekrimeno zhthma oi idies.

Sta alla qemata dimeroys endiaferontos, prepei na sas pw oti yparxei mia synexhs proodos, mia synexhs beltiwsh twn sxesewn kai ayto einai pros ofelos kai twn dyo xwrwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh kyrie Ypoyrge, apo shmera den qa pernane laqrometanastes apo thn Albania sthn Ellada;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala poies einai oi arxes ths metanasteytikhs politikhs. Tis exoyme anakoinwsei. Me bash aytes tis arxes katartizetai sygkekrimeno nomosxedio. Metajy twn allwn, gnwrizete oti problepetai h sygkrothsh kai leitoyrgia eidikwn grafeiwn stis diplwmatikes arxes ths Ellados sto ejwteriko, stis geitonikes xwres toylaxiston, prokeimenoy, mesw aytwn, na prowqoyntai sthn Ellada polites twn xwrwn aytwn oi opoioi qa aporrofhqoyn se diafores ergasies sth xwra mas, kata periodoys.

H synergasia twn geitonikwn kybernhsewn, prokeimenoy na epityxoyme ta arista apotelesmata mesw ths qespishs aytoy toy neoy kanona, einai aparaithth. S' aythn th synergasia prosblepoyme. Exoyme apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs ths Albanias th dedhlwmenh boylhsh na symbalei s' ayth thn kateyqynsh, gia na epityxoyme ta kalytera dynata apotelesmata. Kai bebaiws, otan h kybernhsh ths Albanias gia mia akomh fora diatypwnei th qesh ths -kai prepei na pw oti den einai mono h kybernhsh ths Albanias, einai kai oi arxhgoi olwn twn politikwn kommatwn me toys opoioys synanthqhke o Ellhnas prwqypoyrgos, poy diatypwnoyn kai malista me poly entono tropo, poly safh, emfantiko tropo th qesh toys- pws oi filikes sxeseis ths Albanias me thn Ellada, einai to kleidi prokeimenoy na oikodomhsei to mellon ths h geitonikh xwra, ayto einai para poly shmantiko. Oloi sth geitonikh xwra qewroyn oti h Ellada einai h xwra me thn opoia h Albania prepei na exei tis kalyteres kai stenoteres sxeseis. Ayth h paradoxh h opoia, malista ekfrazetai dhmosiws apo oloys toys arxhgoys twn politikwn kommatwn ths Albanias, apotelei -as moy epitrapei na pw- mia epityxia ths politikhs poy askei h ellhnikh kybernhsh, dioti deixnei oti mia xwra me thn opoia epi polla xronia oi sxeseis htan sxeseis amoibaias kaxypocias, brisketai twra para poly konta sth xwra mas. Perimenei bohqeia apo th xwra mas, prosblepei s' ayth th bohqeia. Anagnwrizei th bohqeia, ekfrazei thn eygnwmosynh gia th bohqeia poy prosferoyme kai pantws, kineitai me mia tetoia diaqesh, wste na symbalei apolytws sthn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn poy exoyn koino endiaferon.

TOYMASHS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, prwton an eteqh apo ton k. Mperissa qema apomakrynshs ths ellhnikhs stratiwtikhs dynamhs, kati poy exoyme maqei oti exei teqei kai sto parelqon. Deyteron, pws eteqh to qema apozhmiwshs aytwn poy eixan fygei apo thn Tsamoyria, twn tsamhdwn kai triton, an egine syzhthsh gia to Arsakeio poy eprokeito na leitoyrghsei sta Tiranna, alla den parexwreito to sygkekrimeno oikopedo sthn ellhnikh kybernhsh.

REPPAS: To Arsakeio leitoyrgei twra. Yparxei ayto to qema ths anegershs neoy ktirioy se allo xwro. Einai qema sto opoio exei, fainetai, prokycei symfwnia. Qa jeperastei grhgora ayth h mikrh ekkremothta. Pantws, einai poly shmantiko oti oi treis prwtes tajeis toy Dhmotikoy poy leitoyrgoyn exoyn sygkentrwsei ena ajiologo dynamiko newn paidiwn poy spoydazoyn kai oi spoydes ekei anagnwrizoyn oloi oti einai ychloy epipedoy.

Prepei na pw, oson afora to qema poy lete oti eqese o k. Mperisa gia thn paramonh ths ellhnikhs stratiwtikhs dynamhs sthn Albania, pws den eqese tetoio qema o k. Mperisa. H ellhnikh stratiwtikh dynamh paramenei ekei me egkriseis poy dinontai apo thn albanikh Boylh, oi opoies ananewnontai ana ejamhno. Ton erxomeno Septembrh anamenetai na chfistei apo th Boylh h ananewsh ths ekei paramonhs ths ellhnikhs stratiwtikhs dynamhs. O k. Mperisa eqese h arxise na qetei sto plaisio ths dimeroys synanthshs me ton Prwqypoyrgo to qema ths perioysias pollwn Albanwn sthn Ellada. Den oloklhrwse omws thn topoqethsh toy ayth, giati o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos amesws toy apanthse oti ayto to qema einai kleisto, den yparxei tetoioi qema pros syzhthsh. Kai den yphrje opoiadhpote synexeia s' ayth thn anafora.

Prepei na sas pw epishs, mias kai milame gia thn episkech sthn Albania, pws hdh eimaste sto teleytaio stadio -oi texnikoi ths Ellhnikhs Radiofwnias- Thleorashs exoyn kanei tis deoyses energeies, afoy exoyn episkeftei thn perioxh- na topoqethsoyme enan pompo sto oros Taiti, sthn perioxh twn Tiranwn, me ton opoio qa kalyptoyme thn kentrikh kai notia Albania, to 60% toy albanikoy edafoys, wste oi polites poy zoyn s' ayth th xwra na mporoyn na parakoloyqoyn ta thleoptika programmata ths ERT. Einai kati para poly shmantiko. Qa symbalei sthn akomh taxyterh kai kalyterh ekmaqhsh ths ellhnikhs glwssas apo toys polites ths Albanias, pragma to opoio poikilotropa qa bohqhsei kai toys Albanoys alla kai th xwra mas na exei kai di' aytoy toy tropoy mia wfelimh kai gia tis dyo xwres paroysia sthn Albania.

Ayta einai orismena apo ta qemata poy syzhthqhkan. Alla prepei na pw oti htan poly qetikh ayth h episkech. Allwste o Prwqypoyrgos ths Albanias milhse me tetoio tropo sto plaisio ths synenteyjhs Typoy h me dhlwseis poy ekane, wste na mhn yparxei h paramikrh amfibolia gi' ayto.

Sas eyxaristw.

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