Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-07-21

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 21 Ioylioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas

* Qelw na sas enhmerwsw gia tis synanthseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys politikoys Arxhgoys. Hdh, exoyn programmatistei oi synanthseis: Thn erxomenh Paraskeyh, stis 7 m. m, me ton k. Kwnstantopoylo kai stis 7.45 me thn k. Paparhga kai th Deytera, stis 7 m. m me ton k. Karamanlh kai stis 7.45 me ton k. Tsobola.

Me thn eykairia ayth, qa moy epitrecete na epanalabw ena sxolio poy ekana xqes -na to epanalabw me pio entono tropo shmera- kai na ekfrasw thn aporia moy, gia thn kaxypocia h opoia ekdhlwnetai apo kapoioys, poy fqanei mexri to shmeio na amfisbhteitai h proqesh toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia thn pragmatopoihsh aytwn twn synanthsewn. Apo thn prwth stigmh eipame oti epiqymoyme aytes tis syzhthseis, prokeimenoy na prokycei, me synainetiko tropo, mia grammh antimetwpishs toy fainomenoy twn oikonomikwn metanastwn. Paramenoyme se ayth th grammh. H epilogh toy Prwqypoyrgoy einai ayth, h opoia tiqetai pleon se efarmogh. Kai ekfrazw gia mia akomh fora, peran ths aporias, kai th lyph moy gia ton tropo me ton opoio antimetwpizontai kapoia krisima qemata.

* Thn Trith exoyme thn episkech sto ellhniko stratiwtiko tmhma ths dieqnoys eirhneytikhs dynamhs sto Oyrosebats, sto Kossyfopedio. Yparxoyn, opws eipame, organwtika kai texnika problhmata. Sas enhmerwnw gia to shmeio sto opoio briskomaste twra kai sas kalw na ekdhlwsete endiaferon gia endexomenh symmetoxh sas. H anaxwrhsh qa ginei apo to anatoliko aerodromio stis 10 p. m., ara gyrw stis 9 p. m., qa prepei na eiste ekei osoi endiafereste na tajidecete. H epistrofh qa ginei to apogeyma. Enas apo kaqe Meso mporei na labei meros sthn apostolh kai an o ariqmos aytos jeperna ton ariqmo twn 35-38 poy kat` anwtato orio mporoyn na laboyn meros, qa prepei na pame me mia seira. Na prohghqoyn oi megales hmerhsies kaqhmerines efhmerides kai na akoloyqhsoyn oi eparxiakes k. o. k.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

GARGALAKOS: Se aytes tis synanthseis poy exei programmatisei o Prwqypoyrgos me toys politikoys Arxhgoys, poia einai h epidiwjh ths kybernhshs; Aplws na akoysei tis apoceis twn kommatwn h na epidiwjei peraiterw kai th synainesh gyrw apo to megalo zhthma ths antimetwpishs toso ths egklhmatikothtas, oso kai eyrytera twn qematwn poy prokyptoyn apo toys oikonomikoys metanastes;

REPPAS: H dhmioyrgia synqhkwn apolyths asfaleias gia toys Ellhnes polites, apotelei meizon agaqo. Opws exei dhlwsei o Prwqypoyrgos, exoyme politikh thn opoia efarmozoyme me sxetikh epityxia. Epiqymoyme, omws, na syzhthsoyme ayto to qema kai me ta alla politika kommata, prokeimenoy na epityxoyme to kalytero dynato apotelesma. Qeloyme na eimaste oso ginetai pio apotelesmatikoi, giati epiqymoyme to syntomotero dynato na empedwqoyn aytes oi synqhkes asfaleias sto eswteriko ths xwras. Exoyme qeseis. Tis basikes arxes ths politikhs poy akoloyqoyme qa tis syzhthsei o Prwqypoyrgos me toys politikoys Arxhgoys, me toys opoioys qa synanthqei. Anamenei apo aytoys tis dikes toys protaseis kai qeseis, oi opoies, bebaiws, prepei na einai efarmosimes, prokeimenoy na ajiologhqoyn kai na ajiopoihqoyn, wste na apotelesoyn systatika stoixeia ths efarmozomenhs politikhs. Einai poly shmantiko to qema, einai krisimo gia thn ellhnikh koinwnia, opws exoyme kat` epanalhch tonisei kai gi ayto epiqymoyme, me synainetiko tropo, na to antimetwpisoyme. Gi ayto to skopo ginontai kai oi synanthseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Exete na mas peite tipota, meta th syskech toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton ypoyrgo Paideias, kybernhtikoys paragontes kai kommatika stelexh;

REPPAS: Ekane sxetikes dhlwseis, xqes, gia ta qemata ths ekpaideytikhs politikhs o Ypoyrgos Paideias. Asfalws, menoyme se aytes tis dhlwseis. Milaei me leptomereies gia ola ta qemata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ekane prin apo th syskech...

REPPAS: Ma, h politikh mas den allazei, epeidh mesolabhse mia syskech. Synexizoyme thn ekpaideytikh politikh poy exoyme anakoinwsei kai einai poly gnwsth se esas. Exei kanei gia ola ta qemata ths ekpaideytikhs politikhs, analytikes dhlwseis, o k. Arsenhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw sas lew gia th syskech me ton Prwqypoyrgo...

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti sth syskech ayth den antimetwpisthkan me diaforetiko tropo ta qemata ths ekpaideytikhs politikhs. Den exoyme allages sthn ekpaideytikh politikh. Ara, den prokyptei kati allo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati egine tote;

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, ekplhssomai me thn aporia sas, thn opoia dexomai, epeidh antilambanomai oti einai texnhth gia logoys dhmosiografikhs anagkhs. Sas lew, loipon, oti oi syskeceis einai pantote anagkaies, prokeimenoy ena qema poy mas apasxolei na to antimetwpisoyme apo koinoy kai na epityxoyme ta kalytera dynata apotelesmata. Poios sas eipe oti mia politikh den xreiazetai th synexh egrhgorsh kai synergasia olwn mas, prokeimenoy na askhqei me pio apotelesmatiko tropo; Sto plaisio ayto entassetai kai h xqesinh syskech, sthn opoia phran meros -opws eixa allwste anakoinwsei- kybernhtika kai kommatika stelexh. Ayto einai kati poy pagiws ginetai. Einai dynaton na dierwtwmai giati kai sta alla kommata ginontai kat` epanalhch syskeceis kai syzhthseis gia thn antimetwpish qematwn; Ma, gi ayto yparxoyn ta organa. Gia na syskeptontai, na synedriazoyn, na pairnoyn apofaseis, eite gia nees politikes, eite gia thn efarmogh twn politikwn poy exoyn apofasistei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den allazei tipota. Ekane dhlwseis prin o k. Arsenhs. Giati egine ayth h syskech; Ti ebgale dhladh; Qa allajei kati;

REPPAS: Einai mia kathgoria, thn opoia apodexetai h kybernhsh. Kathgoreite ton Prwqypoyrgo oti thn wra poy alloi politikoi Arxhgoi briskontai se diakopes, ergazetai systhmatika me ena programma, to opoio einai plhres kai oysiastiko. Giati o Prwqypoyrgos gnwrizei oti yparxoyn polla problhmata sthn ellhnikh koinwnia kai qelei o idios na asxolhqei me ta problhmata ayta poy apasxoloyn toys polites, kai me toys synergates toy, apo koinoy, na ta antimetwpisoyn me ton kalytero tropo.

FILHS: Se sxesh me thn tropologia poy katateqhke, xqes, apo ton k. Papaiwannoy gia to qema ths prasinhs kartas, qa hqela na rwthsw, giati den kriqhke skopimo apo thn kybernhsh ayto poy dhlwsate, edw, eseis, apo ayto to bhma, pws epekteinetai h isxys oysiastika kai oxi typika, bebaiws, ths leykhs kartas. Giati ayto den perilambanetai kai sth sxetikh ryqmish;

REPPAS: Apanthsa, apo thn prwth hmera, se dikh sas erwthsh -an qymamai kala- gia to qema ayto. H leykh karta s` aytoys poy th diaqetoyn, ejasfalizei nomimh paramonh kai drasthriopoihsh toys sthn Ellada. To idio anakoinwse kai apo thn pleyra toy o armodios ypoyrgos. Proxwroyme se mia ryqmish h opoia pisteyoyme oti einai epibeblhmenh. Allwste, ta qemata ayta poy aforoyn thn antimetwpish toy problhmatos ths katagrafhs twn jenwn sthn Ellada, h kybernhsh ta syzhta sto eswteriko ths, ta meletoyn oi synarmodioi ypoyrgoi, me skopo na ginei pio apotelesmatikh h politikh poy efarmozoyme. Ta qemata ayta qa ta syzhthsei kai o Prwqypoyrgos me toys politikoys arxhgoys. Na akoysoyme kai tis dikes toys apoceis, epiteloys, giati dhmosiws me poly eykolo -kai oxi pantote ypeyqyno tropo- diatypwnoyn tis aitiaseis toys enantion ths askoymenhs politikhs. As akoysoyme, loipon, kai tis protaseis toys. Kai h ryqmish ayth kai oi syzhthseis poy diejagontai gia to sygkekrimeno qema, ginontai wste na eimaste pio apotelesmatikoi, pio dikaioi, pio antikeimenikoi, prokeimenoy, to syntomotero dynato, na aposafhnistei to topio, oson afora to poioi briskontai sthn Ellada, pws briskontai edw kai me poies proypoqeseis paramenoyn kai ergazontai.

STRAtN: Kyrie Ypoyrge, sthn arxh, oson afora to symban me to lewforeio, eixan ekfrastei yponoies oti den prokeitai gia egklhmatikh energeia mono, alla kai politikh. Apo thn anakrish prokyptei kati tetoio;

REPPAS: H ereyna synexizetai. Ayth thn wra, den eimaste se shmeio, wste na proboyme se anakoinwseis gia to qema ayto. Mporw na sas pw, omws -giati ayto exei pleon apodeixqei- oti o sygkekrimenos Albanos eixe epikoinwnia kai me alloys me toys opoioys briskotan synexws se synennohsh gia tis kinhseis poy ekane kai gia ton tropo me ton opoio qa xeirizotan ta qemata ayths ths epixeirhshs. Pisteyw oti h ereyna poy diejagei h Astynomia qa apodwsei kai h Astynomia qa ajiopoihsei ayta ta porismata, ta stoixeia poy qa erqoyn sto fws. As anamenoyme, loipon, na oloklhrwqei ayth h ereyna.

MOYRTZHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, xqes, den mas aitiologhsate eparkws, giati na yparjoyn eidikes ryqmiseis gia toys Ellhnes foithtes poy foitoyn sto Panepisthmio ths Pristinas kai giati qetete ayto to gewgrafiko krithrio se sxesh me tis alles perioxes ths Gioygkoslabias.

REPPAS: Giati h Pristina, sto kentro toy Kossyfopedioy, einai h perioxh h opoia eplhgh apo thn prosfath krish. Kai ekei, adynatei na leitoyrghsei to Panepisthmio, enw ta Panepisthmia toy Beligradioy kai twn allwn polewn synexizoyn th leitoyrgia toys, oi de arxes aytwn twn Panepisthmiwn kaloyn toys foithtes na proselqoyn, na dexqoyn symplhrwmatika maqhmata, prokeimenoy na parakoloyqhsoyn to epomeno etos. Yparxei, loipon, mia diafora. Epeidh prepei pantote na isxyoyn oi kanones ths dikaihs antimetwpishs aytwn twn problhmatwn -otan prokyptoyn- proxwrhsame se sygkekrimenh epilogh. Alla, prepei na sas pw oti -opws apo thn prwth hmera, allwste, anakoinwsame- qa yparjoyn eidikes ryqmiseis, eidikes proypoqeseis, basei twn opoiwn h sygkekrimenh omada twn foithtwn qa mporei na entaxqei sta ellhnika Panepisthmia. Kai bebaiws, den prepei na parablepete, oti kai o ariqmos twn foithtwn sth sygkekrimenh polh einai periorismenos. Prokeitai gia mikro ariqmo foithtwn, oi opoioi qa mporoyse na ginoyn dektoi sta ellhnika Panepisthmia, xwris na diataraxqei h omalh ekpaideytikh diadikasia, thn epomenh xronia.

MOYRTZHS: Pantws, isxyoyn dyo metra kai dyo staqma.

REPPAS: Kaqoloy. Giati, opws akribws aytoi oi opoioi foithsan sth Serbia, sthn prwhn Gioygkoslabia, antimetwpisan problhmata poy den antimetwpisan oi foithtes oi opoioi foitoysan se alla Panepisthmia ektos Gioygkoslabias, opws gia paradeigma sthn Italia, thn Oyggaria, thn Agglia, th Germania, etsi kai oi foithtes oi opoioi foithsan sthn Pristina antimetwpisan perissotera problhmata, eidika problhmata se sxesh me toys foithtes oi opoioi foitoysan sta alla Panepisthmia ths Gioygkoslabias. Yparxoyn aytes oi diakriseis, ek twn pragmatwn, einai diaforetikes oi synqhkes. Den tis epinohsame emeis.

MOYRTZHS: Gnwrizete an oi foithtes toy Panepisthmioy ths Gioygkoslabias exoyn zhthsei meteggrafh sthn Pristina;

REPPAS: Den apokleietai, giati h eyrhmatikothta se tetoies periptwseis fqanei sto apogeio ths. Yparxoyn plhrofories, oti kapoioi foithtes oi opoioi spoydazan sto Boykoyresti h sth Sofia, kata th diarkeia ths krishs, zhthsan meteggrafh sto Beligradi, eyelpistwntas etsi oti qa ejasfalisoyn mia diodo pros thn Aqhna h ta alla ellhnika Panepisthmia. Ola ayta -epeidh ta stoixeia einai ypoch toy ypoyrgeioy Paideias kai twn armodiwn Panepisthmiakwn Arxwn- qa ejetastoyn me megalh eyqynh, prokeimenoy na mhn adikhqei kaneis. Otan anaferomai s` aytoys poy den prepei na adikhqoyn, parakalw, na labete ypoch sas toys foithtes poy exoyn foithsei sth Gioygkoslabia, alla kai toys foithtes poy foitoyn sta ellhnika Panepisthmia. Idiaiterws, aytoys poy foitoyn stis iatrikes kai odontiatrikes sxoles. Kai peran apo to oti den prepei na adikhqei kaneis, prepei na laboyme ypoch mas kai tis dynatothtes poy exei to ekpaideytiko systhma ths xwra mas.

Sas eyxaristw.

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