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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 2 Ioylioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

* Shmera, synedriase to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. To kyrio qema syzhthshs htan o Eniaios Foreas Elegxoy Trofimwn. Edw kai ena xrono exei lhfqei, omofwnws, apo to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio h apofash idryshs aytoy toy forea. Ayth h politikh prwtoboylia pairnei, pleon, sygkekrimenh morfh nomosxedioy, poy to epomeno diasthma -afoy diatypwqoyn oi teleytaies parathrhseis- qa katateqei sth Boylh kai qa katastei nomos toy kratoys, poy qa arxisei na efarmozetai. Ep` aytoy toy qematos exei kanei, hdh, dhlwseis o armodios ypoyrgos. Den qelw na sas koyrasw perissotero, alla ean exete erwthseis epi toy qematos, eimai sth diaqesh sas.

* Qa moy epitrecete, prin mporw sta alla qemata, na ekfrasw ta syllyphthria ths kybernhshs pros tis oikogeneies twn adikoxamenwn katadromewn, toso newn sthn hlikia, poy steroyn thn patrida mas, thn ellhnikh koinwnia apo thn prosfora toys.

-O Prwqypoyrgos, milwntas eisagwgika sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, ekane kapoies politikes epishmanseis kai sxolia gia qemata ths epikairothtas. Anaferqhke sta apotelesmata toy tajidioy toy sth Latinikh Amerikh, opoy elabe meros se dyo Diaskeceis Koryfhs. Exete hdh enhmerwqei gia to pws ejelixqhkan oi ergasies twn Diaskecewn aytwn. Menei, shmera, na anaferw -epanalambanontas- th megalh epityxia ths anadeijhs ths Qessalonikhs se kentro poy qa apotelesei th bash gia kaqe prospaqeia ths E. E., oson afora thn anasygkrothsh twn Balkaniwn. H apofash ayth elhfqh sto plaisio mias atyphs synedriashs toy Symboylioy Koryfhs. To Symboylio Koryfhs eishgeitai sthn E. E., poy exei thn prwtoboylia gia thn idrysh aytoy toy forea me edra th Qessalonikh. Prepei na qewreitai dedomeno oti to epomeno diasthma qa arxisoyn oi ergasies, poy einai aparaithtes, prokeimenoy na organwqei kai na leitoyrghsei aytos o foreas. O Prwqypoyrgos aneqese ston ypoyrgo Anaplhrwth Ejwterikwn k. Kranidiwth, o opoios einai armodios gia tis sxeseis me thn E. E., na parakoloyqhsei ta sxetika qemata, prokeimenoy na proxwrhsei h efarmogh ayths ths apofashs to syntomotero dynato. Na jeperastoyn ta opoia empodia h alles kwlysiergies prokycoyn, wste na mh doqei epixeirhma se opoiondhpote qelhsei na yponomeysei ayth thn epilogh.

-Epishs, o Prwqypoyrgos, milwntas gia ta qemata ths eswterikhs epikairothtas, anaferqhke sta apotelesmata ths kybernhtikhs politikhs. Milhse gia ta epiteygmata ths kybernhshs, th shmantikh prospaqeia poy exoyme kanei ws xwra, ws laos, gia na entajoyme thn Ellada sto neo dieqnes periballon, to opoio einai ayto poy oloi gnwrizoyme kai diamorfwnetai anejarthtws twn dikwn mas qelhsewn kai epidiwjewn. H Ellada qa prepei na einai paroysa me isxyrh fwnh se ayto to neo dieqnes periballon. H Ellada exei epityxei toys megaloys stoxoys ths, gi ayto kai h basikh mas politikh paramenei opws exei. Apo kei kai pera stoys epimeroys tomeis, proxwroyme ejeidikeyontas thn politikh mas, prokeimenoy na epityxoyme megalyterh apotelesmatikothta, doyleyontas pio apofasistika, pio dynamika, antimetwpizontas pio drastika ta problhmata poy apasxoloyn th xwra kai ton ellhniko lao. Ows eipe kai o Prwqypoyrgos "prepei na matwsoyme sth doyleia, ola ta melh ths kybernhshs". Ayto to opoio endiaferei ton ellhniko lao, toys polites kai th xwra, einai na antimetwpisoyme kai na lysoyme problhmata, makria apo memcimoiries kai eswstrefeies, oi opoies einai agones kai den odhgoyn se qetika apotelesmata. Qa prepei na antimetwpisoyme ayto to xreos to opoio prokyptei apo thn empistosynh poy mas exei deijei o ellhnikos laos, oxi mesw paroxwn, oxi ypokyptontas se syntexniaka aithmata, oyte, epishs, apodexomenoi, akrita, aithmata poy ekbiastika qetoyn atoma h omades. Epishs, qeloyme na eimaste, oxi aplws eyxaristoi, alla, kyriws, wfelimoi kai xrhsimoi gia ton topo kai ton ellhniko lao. Kai pros ayth thn kateyqynsh kinoymaste. To mhnyma, loipon, einai: perissoterh doyleia, megalyterh apotelesmatikothta, wste na ginoyme kalyteroi, prokeimenoy na fqasoyme sthn epiteyjh twn stoxwn poy mexri twra den exoyme epityxei. Oi proypoqeseis einai poly kales. Allwste, apodeixqhke oti h Ellada, en mesw enos taragmenoy periballontos sth dieqnh skhnh, katorqwse me megales epiloges na prosanatolisei th xwra kai na thn entajei se ayto to neo dieqnes periballon me ajiwseis. Eimaste mia xwra, poy exei isxyroterh para pote paroysia, isxyrh fwnh poy akoygetai, diekdikei kai epitygxanei ayta ta opoia dikaioytai.

-Ena allo shmeio ths parembashs toy Prwqypoyrgoy einai oti, opws kleinoyme enan kyklo, sto plaisio ths qhteias ayths ths kybernhshs, epitygxanontas -opws fainetai- thn entajh ths xwras sthn ONE, diasfalizoyme kai ena neo, isxyro dieqnh rolo gia thn Ellada. Etsi, arxizoyme ena neo kyklo, o opoios qa xarakthrizetai kyriws apo thn epitaxynsh ths oikonomikhs anaptyjhs me koinwnikh synoxh kai eyaisqhsia kai ayto einai perissotero para pote twra efikto, afoy ta apotelesmata ths askoymenhs politikhs epitrepoyn kaqe aisiodojia. H politikh poy akoloyqhsame, oson afora ta epitokia, h politikh gia thn peristolh twn dapanwn poy den einai aparaithtes, h politikh poy akoloyqhsame me thn ajiopoihsh koinotikwn porwn, h politikh, epishs, h opoia exei odhghsei se shmantika apotelesmata, mesw toy periorismoy ths forodiafyghs, qa mas epitrecei na ajiopoihsoyme aytoys toys poroys, prokeimenoy na beltiwsoyme akomh perissotero tis epidoseis mas ston tomea ths koinwnikhs synoxhs kai ths koinwnikhs dikaiosynhs. Omades kai atoma, opws oi agrotes, alla oxi mono, mporoyn na anamenoyn oti ayto to koinwniko pleonasma -as moy epitrapei ayth h ekfrash- qa katanemhqei kata dikaio tropo, wste na antimetwpistoyn apotelesmatika problhmata poy antimetwpizoyn sthn kaqhmerinh zwh toys oi pio eypaqeis omades toy plhqysmoy.

-Oson afora tis politikes ejelijeis, h kybernhsh mas, opws exoyme pei kat` epanalhch, exei 4eth qhteia. O orizontas ths kleinei to Septembrh toy 2000, otan kai pali qa teqei ypo thn krish toy ellhnikoy laoy. Asfalws, mesolabei h eklogh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias. Omws, h eklogh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias den mporei na apotelesei pedio antidikias metajy twn politikwn kommatwn. Antiqetws, opws kai to pneyma kai to gramma toy ellhnikoy Syntagmatos anaferei, o Proedros ths Dhmokratias ensarkwnei kai ekfrazei thn enothta twn politikwn dynamewn kai thn omocyxia toy ellhnikoy laoy. Me ayth thn ennoia, pisteyoyme -ayto epanelabe shmera o Prwqypoyrgos- oti o k. Stefanopoylos, poy me paradeigmatiko tropo exei ektelesei ta kaqhkonta toy, mporei na sygkentrwsei, me th synainesh olwn twn kommatwn, thn chfo olwn twn boyleytwn, prokeimenoy na anadeixqei ws Proedros gia mia nea qhteia. H kybernhsh, bebaiws, sto plaisio ths omalhs ejelijhs ths koinwnikhs zwhs, ths politikhs staqerothtas, qa oloklhrwsei to ergo ths kai qa kriqei kai pali apo thn ellhniko lao to Septembrh toy 2000.

-O Prwqypoyrgos zhthse, telos, thn entonh paroysia twn stelexwn, twn ypoyrgwn sthn Perifereia, pio apotelesmatikh anadeijh toy ergoy ths kybernhshs. Kaqe ypoyrgeio, edw kai arketo kairo, exei jekaqarismenes tis proteraiothtes toy kai sth bash aytwn twn proteraiothtwn prepei na doylecoyme to ypoloipo diasthma. Me ta apotelesmata poy qa epityxoyme se aytoys toys poly sygkekrimenoys tomeis qa kriqoyme.

* Sto plaisio toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy, enhmerwse sxetika me tis dikes toy epafes kai synomilies me ton Toyrko omologo toy k. Tzem. Ta qemata ayta exoyn syzhthqei kai den qa sas koyrasw, ektos an exete na qesete kapoia erwthmata. Ypenqymizw aplws oti ayth h epikoinwnia me thn Toyrkia, se tomeis poy exoyn koino endiaferon, exei epidiwxqei edw kai poly kairo. Bebaiws, den prokeitai gia mia epikoinwnia me morfh politikoy dialogoy, o opoios afora th diapragmateysh twn kyriarxikwn dikaiwmatwn mas. Ayto einai adianohto. To exoyme katasthsei safes kai se ayth th qesh paramenoyme. Bebaiws, h Toyrkia kaleitai kaqe fora na sebastei to Dieqnes Dikaio, na threi tis dieqneis synqhkes, oi opoies diepoyn to kaqestws twn sxesewn twn dyo xwrwn. Alla emeis synepeis sto pneyma ths politikhs poy exoyme diatypwsei, edw kai poly kairo, epiqymoyme kai prowqoyme ayth th synergasia se epimeroys tomeis gia thn antimetwpish praktikwn problhmatwn poy exoyn dimeres endiaferon, opws einai h katapolemhsh ths diakinhshs twn narkwtikwn, h laqrometanasteysh, h katapolemhsh ths egklhmatikothtas, ths tromokratias k. lp. Alloi tomeis -pente synolika, anefera ton ena- einai: O toyrismos, o politismos, to periballon kai oi oikonomikes kai emporikes sxeseis. Entos toy Ioylioy problepetai na yparjei kai pali synanthsh kai syzhthsh metajy ekproswpwn twn dyo ypoyrgeiwn twn dyo kratwn, se anwtero yphresiako epipedo. Kai afoy syzhthqoyn ayta ta qemata kai diapistwqei h proodos, anamenetai nea synanthsh, to Septembrh, twn dyo ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn, oi opoioi qa staqmisoyn thn ejelijh ayths ths epikoinwnias kai analogws qa dromologhsoyn tis ejelijeis.

* Prepei na sas pw oti amesws meta th synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy akoloyqhse atyph synedriash toy KYSEA. H synedriash ayth, me prwtoboylia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, eixe antikeimeno thn enhmerwsh ths kybernhshs apo ton armodio ypoyrgo, gia trexonta qemata, poy aforoyn ton tomea ths egklhmatikothtas. Moy dinetai h eykairia na epanalabw oti exoyme empistosynh sthn politikh poy akoloyqoyme. Me tis beltiwseis, bebaiws, poy prepei na yparjoyn kai qa yparjoyn, opws thn enisxysh kai me nea stelexh twn Swmatwn poy exoyn analabei th fylajh twn synorwn, th synexish twn peripoliwn apo ta organa ths Astynomias, th synexish ths politikhs gia th nomimopoihsh aytwn poy prepei na parameinoyn sthn Ellada, otan diaqetoyn ta aparaithta eggrafa kai thn entatikopoihsh ths prospaqeias gia thn epanaprowqhsh ston topo apo opoy exoyn erqei, ekeinwn poy den diaqetoyn tis proypoqeseis gia na parameinoyn sthn Ellada. Qa parameinoyme se ayth thn politikh, enteinontas tis prospaqeies mas kai erxomenoi se peraiterw synennohseis me tis kybernhseis geitonikwn xwrwn, me tis opoies ayto to qema -epeidh einai koinoy endiaferontos- to syzhtoyme kata kairoys. Kai zhtoyme kai apo aytes na symbaloyn sthn kalyterh antimetwpish toy.

* Qa moy epitrecete, telos, na kanw ena geniko sxolio poy afora tis ejetaseis sto Lykeio. Epanalambanw oti h Ekpaideytikh Metarryqmish antapokrinetai stis anagkes enos sygxronoy ekpaideytikoy systhmatos, antapokrinetai stis anagkes ths ellhnikhs koinwnias. H Ekpaideytikh Metarryqmish qa proxwrhsei giati einai aparaithth, einai wfelimh, einai kairias shmasias gia toys maqhtes, alla kai gia to mellon ths xwras. Prosferoyn kakh yphresia oloi ekeinoi, oi opoioi kathgoroyn to ypoyrgeio Paideias kai thn kybernhsh, logw twn apotelesmatwn poy dhqen exoyn prokycei, meta tis ejetaseis sthn A' Lykeioy. Giati tetoia apotelesmata, opws paroysiazontai apo orismenoys kykloys, den exoyn prokycei. To Systhma to opoio efarmozetai einai epieikes, einai dikaio, kalyptei to synolo ekeinwn twn maqhtwn poy se prohgoymenes periodoys emenan anejetasteoi, alla kai ena meros maqhtwn poy me to prohgoymeno systhma aporriptontan stis ejetaseis. Ayth einai h alhqeia. Einai adikaiologhtos o qorybos o opoios prokaleitai. Profanws krybei skopimothtes. Den prokeitai, omws, na "pagwsei" kai na akyrwsei th shmantikh prospaqeia poy kanei h kybernhsh me thn Ekpaideytikh Metarryqmish. Anaferw, gia na exete ypoch sas liga stoixeia, oti sto synolo 86.704 maqhtwn ths A' Lykeioy, kriqhkan apo toys kaqhghtes toys aporripteoi 11.613, dhladh, pososto 13,39%. Prepei na sas pw, oti me bash ta stoixeia poy exoyme gia thn teleytaia 15etia (1981-1995) to pososto twn maqhtwn poy aporriptontai kata meso oro sthn A' Lykeioy, htan 11,9%. Ayto, omws, katopin twn epanalhptikwn ejetasewn toy Septembrh, stis opoies parapempontan to 25% twn maqhtwn. H parapomph twn anejetastewn maqhtwn se nees ejetaseis to Septembrh, pisteyoyme oti htan mia ryqmish, h opoia den wfeloyse se tipota, giati h proetoimasia toy maqhth htan atelhs. Syxna, oi ejetaseis aytes eixan eikoniko xarakthra, den htan pragmatikes ejetaseis.

H periodos toy Septembrh gia toys maqhtes, shmaine apwleia twn diakopwn, alla kai megalo oikonomiko kostos gia tis oikogeneies toys, ej aitias twn maqhmatwn, twn frontisthriwn. To poso efqane, se panellhnia klimaka, ta 10 dis draxmes mono gia thn A' Lykeioy kai mono gia thn periodo toy kalokairioy, enocei twn ejetasewn toy Septembrh. Qa anaferw ena paradeigma: Me to prohgoymeno systhma o maqhths poy eixe meso oro baqmologias 13, mporoyse na probibazetai, akomh kai an eixe se tessera maqhmata apo to synolo twn ejetazomenwn maqhmatwn, baqmo katw apo th bash. An o baqmos, omws, htan katw apo 13, kai eixe kai se tessera maqhmata katw apo th bash, o maqhths aytos aporriptotan. Me to isxyon systhma, o maqhths ths A' Lykeioy krinetai, eyqys amesws, proakteos apo thn A' sth B' Lykeioy, me meso oro baqmologias 10 kai oxi 13 kai efoson sth xeiroterh periptwsh exei baqmologhqei katw apo th bash se ennea apo ta 11 maqhmata, sta opoia ejetazetai. Shmeiwnw, bebaiws, oti h ajiologhsh kai h baqmologhsh twn maqhtwn ginetai apo toys kaqhghtes toys, poy toys parakoloyqoyn olo to xrono. Aytoi einai poy apofasizoyn gia to poioi prepei na proaxqoyn h oxi. Antilambaneste oti to systhma ayto einai epieikestero apo to prohgoymeno kai dinei pragmatika perissoteres dynatothtes stoys maqhtes na proaxqoyn sthn epomenh tajh. Alla, bebaiws, apaitei apo toys maqhtes to elaxisto: Na mhn exoyn baqmo, katw apo th bash, se ola ta maqhmata. Pisteyw, loipon, oti einai adikaiologhtos o qorybos poy exei dhmioyrghqei. To systhma ayto, to opoio gia prwth fora efarmozetai, mporei na pei kaneis oti, epeidh entassetai sthn ekpaideytikh metarryqmish, qa prepei na ajiologhqei kai na ejetastei se synarthsh me ta alla metra poy exoyn lhfqei gia thn ekpaideytikh metarryqmish. Kai pantws den einai systhma "karmaniola", opws kapoioi isxyrizontai, poly perissotero an sygkriqei me to ejetastiko systhma poy isxye thn prohgoymenh periodo.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Efoson kanate toso eykolo to systhma, giati emeinan perissoteroi, giati anebhke to pososto; Einai pio "koympoyres", dhladh, twra;

REPPAS: Oxi, k. Stamatopoyle! Edwsa apanthsh sto prwto sxolio poy ekana. Eipa oti kata tis ejetaseis, oi opoies ginontan to Septembrh, proagontan ena peripoy 25%, twn maqhtwn poy eixan meinei anejetasteoi, alla oi ejetaseis aytes eixan katanthsei eikonikes. Pisteyoyme oti o maqhths, o opoios exei stoixeiwdh efodia, exei mia ikanopoihtikh epidosh kata th diarkeia ths sxolikhs xronias, prepei na proaxqei kai proagetai me to isxyon systhma. Den pisteyoyme oti prosferei opoiadhpote yphresia h synexish twn ejetasewn kata th deyterh periodo toy Septembrh, doqentos oti to diasthma poy mesolabei -kai malista, en mesw Qeroys- den einai ayto to opoio qa bohqhsei toys maqhtes na beltiwsoyn thn epidosh toys gia na proaxqoyn sthn epomenh tajh. En pash periptwsei, opws sas eipa, ayto poy prokyptei einai, oti to neo systhma, kalyptei prwton to synolo ekeinwn poy emeinan anejetasteoi, thn prohgoymenh periodo kai deyteron, ena tmhma ekeinwn oi opoioi aporriptontai. Ta stoixeia -ta opoia anefera- epishmainoyn oti sta 15 prohgoymena xronia aporriptontan kata meso oro ena pososto poy efqane to 11,9%. Fetos to pososto, me to neo systhma, einai 13,39%. Alla, epanalambanw, oti o mesos oros afora 15etia. Sta 15 ayta xronia mporei na breite mia sxolikh xronia poy to pososto einai panw apo to fetino pososto, panw apo to 13,39%, opws, epishs, mia allh xronia, opoy o mesos oros einai katw apo ayto to pososto. Ayto to opoio exei shmasia einai toyto: An qeloyme na beltiwsoyme thn epidosh twn maqhtwn ti prepei na kanoyme; Na katarghsoyme tis ejetaseis h na exoyme ena systhma, to opoio na einai dikaio kai arketa epieikes (wste na mh frazei to dromo sthn peraiterw ekpaideysh twn paidiwn), alla en pash periptwsei, na einai ena systhma to opoio, metajy twn allwn, qa perilambanei kai ejetaseis; Emeis leme oti prepei na yparxoyn aytes oi ejetaseis. Kai sas eipa: allote, o maqhths eprepe na exei meso oro 13 kai baqmo katw apo th bash to poly se tessera maqhmata gia na proaxqei, enw twra, mporei na proagetai me meso oro 10 kai baqmo katw apo th bash se ennea apo ta 11 maqhmata poy didaskontai.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai to pososto aporriptewn anebainei.

REPPAS: To pososto paramenei peripoy sto idio epipedo, opws ta prohgoymena xronia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia ton eniaio forea trofimwn, eprepe na perasei enas xronos, na fame tis diojines kai meta na to ferete sth Boylh;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, prepei na sas pw oti h Ellada, sto qema to opoio proekyce prosfata, htan h prwth xwra sthn E. E., h opoia, egkaira kai apotelesmatika, elabe metra. Kai gia to logo ayto -to gnwrizete allwste- diatypwqhkan parapona kai malista eginan kai diabhmata apo to Belgio, alla kai thn armodia yphresia ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs, me ton isxyrismo oti den epitrepoyme thn eleyqerh diakinhsh agaqwn h proiontwn sthn Ellada, kata parabash twn oswn problepoyn oi kanones ths E. E. sthn opoia anhkoyme. Prepei na sas pw, loipon, prwton, oti to qema ayto to antimetwpisame kalytera apo opoiadhpote allh xwra. Deyteron, elegxoi ginontan panta. Den qa prokycoyn, twra, meta th dhmioyrgia toy neoy forea. Diakosies xiliades elegxoi se xiliades proionta exoyn ginei se olh thn ellhnikh epikrateia, ton prohgoymeno xrono, to 1998. Ara, loipon, oi elegxoi einai systhmatikoi kai synexeis. Den diakophke pote ayth h elegktikh diadikasia. Panta yphrxe. Aplws, twra ti kanoyme; Me to neo ayto forea, dhmioyrgeitai ena organo, to opoio qa epopteyei kai qa syntonizei oles tis leitoyrgies, prokeimenoy na exoyme poly pio syntoma kai poly pio egkyra ta apotelesmata twn elegxwn aytwn. Shmera, elegxoi ginontai apo yphresies h mesw ergasthriwn poy anhkoyn se diafora ypoyrgeia kai organismoys. O neos aytos foreas, o opoios qa epopteyetai apo to ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs, qa exei th dynatothta na syntonizei oles aytes tis energeies. Ayto einai to kainoyrgio poy prokyptei. Oson afora ta organwtika kai ta leitoyrgika qemata toy neoy forea, yparxei ena keimeno to opoio sas exei dianemhqei. Parakalw, na to labete ypoch sas.

MOYRTZHS: O Prwqypoyrgos eipe oti h eklogh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias den prepei, kaq opoiondhpote tropo, na apotelesei zhthma antipalothtas kai diamaxhs metajy twn politikwn kommatwn. To erwthma moy einai, an emmenete, mexri to telos, sto proswpo toy shmerinoy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias k. Stefanopoyloy, giati mporei na yparxei kapoio allo proswpo poy na exei ta yperkommatika "diapisteythria" kai na exei th synainesh olwn twn allwn kommatwn ths antipoliteyshs. Qa synainesete sto proswpo ayto eseis h qa to aporricete;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, pisteyoyme oti o paradeigmatikos tropos me ton opoio askei ta kaqhkonta toy o k. Stefanopoylos, synhgorei gia thn yperchfish toy, gia mia nea qhteia sto Proedriko ajiwma. Apo ekei kai pera, epeidh akribws ayto einai dedomeno, h eklogh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias poy, ek twn pragmatwn, apotelei shmeio synanthshs kai synantilhchs twn politikwn kommatwn, mporei na antimetwpistei me ayto to prisma. Gnwrizete poly kala, oti o Proedros ths Dhmokratias ekfrazei to Eqnos. Kai sto proswpo toy shmerinoy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias, mporei na sympesoyn, na taytistoyn ola ta politika kommata. Den yparxei otidhpote, to opoio mporei kapoios na epikalestei ws stoixeio, enantion ths yperchfishs toy k. Stefanopoyloy. Ayto einai to dedomeno. Kai ep` aytoy syzhtoyme. Ola ta alla, einai ypoqeseis. Asfalws, h qesh poy exei diatypwsei, edw kai kairo, o Prwqypoyrgos, einai qesh ths kybernhshs sthn opoia qa parameinei mexri teloys.

KONTOPOYLOS: Yphrje apo kapoio melos toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy h kapoia melh poy diatypwsan thn apoch oti ayta poy aforoyn tis teleytaies ejelijeis sta ellhnotoyrkika, me aformh to dialogo Papandreoy- Tzem, prepei na syzhthqoyn se kapoia alla organa;

REPPAS: Oxi, den egine opoiodhpote sxolio sta osa eipe o k. Papandreoy. Apla, opws exei pei o Prwqypoyrgos -kai to epanelabe- qa ginoyn synedriaseis kybernhtikwn organwn (ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs kai allwn organwn), thn epomenh periodo, opoy qa ejeidikeysoyme tis politikes prwtoboylies poy qa analabei h kybernhsh gia thn antimetwpish twn qematwn. Ayto einai kati poy to exoyme pei, alla den exei sxesh mono me to sygkekrimeno qema. Exei sxesh me to synolo twn politikwn prwtoboyliwn poy qa parei h kybernhsh.

MOYRTHS: Meta th synanthsh Papandreoy-Tzem, ektima h kybernhsh oti kapoies apo tis proypoqeseis poy eixan teqei sthn Kolwnia, gia na qewrhqei h Toyrkia xwra ypo entajh, throyntai;

REPPAS: Den exei allajei tipota, oson afora th stash ths Toyrkias apenanti sthn Ellada apo tote poy syzhthsame to qema ayto sthn Kolwnia. Den exei allajei apolytws tipota. Gnwrizete poly kala oti yparxoyn sygkekrimenes proypoqeseis, oi opoies prepei na ikanopoioyntai, apo oles tis xwres kai thn Toyrkia, prokeimenoy na exoyn to xarakthra ths ypochfias pros entajh sthn E. E. xwras. Den einai dynato h Toyrkia na apotelesei ejairesh ston kanona ayto. Kai den qa apotelesei ejairesh.

KWSTANTHS: Kata th diarkeia ths apoysias toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Latinikh Amerikh, yphrjan edw sthn Aqhna kapoies synanthseis koryfaiwn stelexwn, kapoia geymata me stelexh. Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean apasxolhse ayto ton Prwqypoyrgo sth shmerinh synedriash h ton apasxolhse kata th diarkeia ths ekei paramonh toy, epeidh hsastan mazi me ton Prwqypoyrgo.

REPPAS: Den antilambanomai poio einai to qema to opoio qetete. To oti synantwntai kai syzhtoyn ta politika stelexh; Ayto einai kati poy panta ginotan kai panta qa ginetai. Einai qemito. Den prepei na enoxopoihsoyme tis synanthseis twn stelexwn kai thn antallagh apocewn gia qemata, asfalws, ta opoia exoyn politiko endiaferon.

KWSTANTHS: Den exoyn enoxlhsei, dhladh, ton Prwqypoyrgo aytes oi synanthseis;

REPPAS: Den antilambanomai to pneyma ths erwthshs sas. Einai dynato na enoxleitai o Prwqypoyrgos, epeidh ta politika stelexh diatypwnoyn tis apoceis toys h syzhtoyn metajy toys qemata politikoy endiaferontos; Asfalws den enoxleitai. O Prwqypoyrgos milhse, shmera, me poly safh kai kathgorhmatiko tropo. Eqese tis proteraiothtes, edeije to dromo poy prepei na akoloyqhsoyme, prokeimenoy na eimaste pio apotelesmatikoi, wste na kriqoyme, to Septembrh toy 2000, apo ton ellhniko lao, me epityxia. Ayto einai poy exei shmasia. Kai ayto qa kanoyme.

ROYBINETHS: Sto TV Magic kai ta perifereiaka kanalia me ta opoia synergazomaste, exoyn ginei epishmanseis oti oi asqenesteres tajeis den sthrizontai oso prepei apo to PASOK, gi` ayto einai kai to eklogiko apotelesma etsi. Yphrje kamia anafora; Qa allajei kati sta ypoyrgeia kai stoys diaforoys foreis;

REPPAS: Den symfwnw me to symperasma to opoio ejagete oti den exoyn sthrixqei arketa oi eypaqeis koinwnikes omades. Pisteyoyme oti, enw eprepe se sympyknwmeno xrono, na kalycoyme th megalh apostash poy mas xwrize apo tis alles xwres ths E. E., to petyxame ayto, diathrwntas apo thn allh, thn koinwnikh synoxh poy, gia mas, apotelei agaqo. Einai poly shmantiko shmeio stis politikes epiloges mas.

Bebaiws, panta yparxei periqwrio beltiwshs ths askoymenhs politikhs stoys tomeis aytoys. Ayto qa kanoyme kai mporoyme na to kanoyme. Dikaiologeitai kaqe aisiodojia:

Epeidh akribws, katorqwsame me thn politikh ayth na exoyme xamhla epitokia kai na ejoikonomoyme poroys, toys opoioys mporoyme na diaqesoyme sto plaisio ths kaloymenhs koinwnikhs politikhs. Pragma to opoio den qa htan efikto an den eixame akoloyqhsei ayth thn oikonomikh politikh. Alla, ayth h politikh h opoia apo polloys kathgoreitai, apodidei karpoys kai mas dinei th dynatothta, shmera, na ajiopoihsoyme poroys poy den qa eixame katw apo alles synqhkes.

Epeidh ta epitokia kinoyntai se xamhlo epipedo.

Epeidh me ta antikeimenika krithria poy exoyn isxysei -kai eipame oti to systhma ayto qa allajei se shmantiko baqmo- periorisame to fainomeno ths forodiafyghs.

Epeidh ajiopoihsame kata ton kalytero tropo koinotikoys poroys kai proxwrame se ependyseis oi opoies apodidoyn.

Kai bebaiws, epeidh proxwrhsame se peristolh dapanwn poy den htan aparaithtes.

Loipon, ola ayta deixnoyn oti exoyme kanei shmantika bhmata. Qa synexisoyme s` ayth thn kateyqynsh.

KARGOYDH: Qa hqela na rwthsw kati sto qema toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias. Epeidh h kybernhsh erxetai kai epanerxetai sto qema ayto, qa hqela na rwthsw an protiqetai na arxisei estw atypes synennohseis me thn ypoloiph antipoliteysh se sxesh me ena proswpo -apo thn pleyra sas h protash einai o k. Stefanopoylos- koinhs apodoxhs.

REPPAS: To qema ayto qa antimetwpistei entos twn xronikwn oriwn poy problepei to Syntagma. Emeis exoyme parei qesh. Pisteyoyme oti kai ta alla kommata prepei na kanoyn to idio. Kaqe komma kanei thn epilogh toy me bash kapoies arxes, oi opoies qa prepei na ginontai sebastes. Einai qema, loipon, toy kaqe kommatos na parei qesh egkairws. Kai bebaiws, thn krisimh wra, opws problepei to Syntagma, otan qa arxisoyn oi syzhthseis sth Boylh, qa fanei poios einai ekeinos o opoios epiqymei na meinei o qesmos toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias makran twn kommatikwn antiparaqesewn kai antidikiwn kai poios einai ekeinos o opoios ypokrinetai. Qymaste ti egine sto plaisio twn syzhthsewn gia thn allagh twn diatajewn toy Syntagmatos, oson afora thn eklogh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias, otan ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs, idiaiterws h N. D., qewrhsan oti emeis prospaqoyme na xrhsimopoihsoyme to qesmo toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias, prokeimenoy na epityxoyme kommatika ofelh. Loipon, alloi xrhsimopoioyn thn eklogh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias gia alloys logoys. To ekane h N. D. kai kata thn prwth eklogh toy k. Stefanopoyloy. Qymaste. Otan eipe, tote, oti ayto to opoio exei shmasia einai na ginoyn ekloges kai kathgorhse ton k. Samara, o opoios eixe yperchfisei me to komma toy ton k. Stefanopoylo. Epishs, otan egine h syzhthsh gia to Syntagma sth Boylh, kathgoroysan thn kybernhsh -giati sto plaisio ekeinwn twn syzhthsewn eixan proteinei kapoies allages oson afora th diadikasia ekloghs Proedroy Dhmokratias- oti kanoyme aytes tis protaseis epeidh, akribws, qeloyme na xrhsimopoihsoyme to qesmo kai ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias gia idioteleis h mikrokommatikoys skopoys. Menei na apodeixqei, twra, poioi einai aytoi oi opoioi einai synepeis sta osa lene kai poioi einai ypokrites, gia na fanei etsi poioi sebontai to qesmo toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias kai poioi epixeiroyn na emplejoyn thn eklogh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias se kommatika paixnidia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kanenas allos Ellhnas poliths den exei ta exeggya, ektos apo ton k. Stefanopoylo, gia na einai ypochfios Proedros;

REPPAS: Einai qema twn endiaferomenwn. Asfalws, yparxoyn para polloi Ellhnes polites oi opoioi plhroyn tis proypoqeseis kai exoyn tis dynatothtes. Den einai ayto to qema poy mas apasxolei. Giati mporw na antistrecw kallista to erwthma se opoion kakopisto qetei tetoio qema -giati kakopista tiqetai ayto to qema, se megalo baqmo- kai na pw: Anagnwrizetai oti o k. Stefanopoylos askei acoga ta kaqhkonta toy; Afoy, loipon, exei ayth thn anagnwrish, ensarkwnei thn omocyxia kai thn enothta twn politikwn dynamewn, poios o logos, o opoios mporei na odhghsei kapoion, sthn aporrich ths ypochfiothtas toy: Ayth einai h logikh erwthsh h opoia prokyptei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oi prohgoymenoi Proedroi den eixan to idio;

REPPAS: Den eipe kaneis to antiqeto.

KONTOPOYLOS: Exete parei apo to ESR th lista gia paraxwrhsh adeiwn se radiofwnikoys staqmoys;

REPPAS: Oxi, den exw parei th lista thn opoia exei katartisei, opws plhroforoymai apo dhmosieymata, to ESR gia thn paraxwrhsh adeiwn se radiofwnikoys staqmoys sto Nomo Attikhs. Exw ypoch, omws, dhlwseis poy exoyn kanei para polloi -endiaferomenoi kai alloi paragontes- tis opoies, qa moy epitrecete na pw, oti krinw me tropo o opoios kaqe allo, para kolakeytikos einai gi` aytoys oi opoioi agnooyn to nomiko plaisio, to opoio diepei thn paraxwrhsh adeiwn se radiofwnikoys staqmoys, kai en toytois probainoyn se dhlwseis gia ena qema to opoio den gnwrizoyn kala. Telika, malista, apodeiknyetai oti yparxoyn akoma kai politikoi oi opoioi epidiwkoyn na mhn efarmozontai oi nomoi. Ayto antilambanomai egw apo tis dhlwseis kapoiwn synadelfwn. To ESR einai anejarthth arxh. Gnwrizete poly kala oti sygkroteitai apo paragontes, apo stelexh ta opoia proteinoyn ta kommata ths Boylhs. H kybernhsh den exei opoiadhpote epirroh sth diadikasia ayth. Apo ekei kai pera, anamenoyme thn protash toy ESR. Lypamai giati kapoioi kathgoroyn thn kybernhsh yperaspizomenoi to ESR, otan qewroyn oti ayto toys boleyei kai twra, kathgoroyn to ESR, epeidh h apofash poy fainetai oti exei parei gia ena pragmati shmantiko qema, den toys einai aresth. Den to antilambanomai ayto. Den prepei na perifroyrhsoyme to ESR sto rolo toy; Ta stelexh toy exoyn proswpikh kai leitoyrgikh aytonomia. Den prepei na ginei sebasto to ESR; Poly perissotero, otan opws plhroforoymai, h apofash poy exei lhfqei exei lhfqei omofwnws. Den antilambanomai poioi einai ekeinoi oi opoioi qeloyn na yparxei nomimothta, na aposafhnisoyme to radiothleoptiko topio, alla ola ayta, na ginoyn sto metro twn dikwn toys epiqymiwn. Exoyme sygkrothsei sygkekrimeno organo, sebasto, anagnwrismeno, organo kyroys, sto opoio exoyme anaqesei ayto to ergo. As to afhsoyme aperispasto na oloklhrwsei to ergo toy. Kai ta apotelesmata ayths ths prospaqeias toy ESR gia thn aposafhnish toy radiothleoptikoy topioy qa prepei na ginoyn sebasta.

Sas eyxaristw. Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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