Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-06-28

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 28 Ioynioy 1999

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

BITALHS: Yparxei to programma twn synanthsewn toy epikefalhs ths antitromokratikhs yphresias toy Steht Ntipartment;

NIKOLAOY: Den exw na sas dwsw programma synanthsewn. Otan ginei gnwsto, qa to parete h apo emas h apo to ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs.

BITALHS: Den exoyn kanonistei akoma ta ranteboy;

NIKOLAOY: Oxi.

BITALHS: Pote akribws erxetai, einai gnwsto;

NIKOLAOY: Thn erxomenh ebdomada, an den kanw laqos. Qa sas apanthsw, ayrio, gia to qema ayto.

BITALHS: Skeftetai h kybernhsh na labei kapoia epipleon metra gia pio apotelesmatikh antimetwpish ths tromokratias, me bash kapoies, en pash periptwsei, "ypodeijeis";

NIKOLAOY: Kat` arxhn, qa hqela na pw oti den yparxoyn ypodeijeis, oyte opoiesdhpote alles energeies, oi opoies na ypodeiknyoyn sthn ellhnikh kybernhsh me poio tropo qa prepei na drasei gia thn antimetwpish ths tromokratias. Opws gnwrizete, ayto einai ena qema poy apasxolei thn ellhnikh politeia, edw kai para polla xronia, kai o stoxos einai panta h kalyterh organwsh twn yphresiwn mas, wste na einai etoimes na antapokriqoyn stis ypoxrewseis toys kai na katapolemhsoyn to fainomeno ths tromokratias. Ayto to opoio mporoyme na poyme einai oti h xwras mas, sto plaisio twn dieqnwn sxesewn kai twn dieqnwn ypoxrewsewn ths, synergazetai kai me tis alles eyrwpaikes xwres kai me tis HPA, se oloys toys dieqneis organismoys poy exoyn sxesh me to qema, gia thn oso to dynato kalyterh antimetwpish toy fainomenoy aytoy.

Epishs, ayto poy mporoyme na poyme einai oti to problhma sth xwra mas antimetwpizetai kai oti h xwra mas den einai apo ekeines tis xwres poy exoyn-sygkritika, panta- to megalytero problhma ston tomea ayto. Ayto, omws, den shmainei pws einai kati poy den prepei na antimetwpisoyme kai oti den mas apasxolei. Bebaiws, mas apasxolei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, o k. Mperns episkefqhke ton anaplhrwth ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn kai mas eipe o k. Reppas, tote, oti eipe pws den yparxei qema gia thn tromokratia. Diapistwnoyme, omws, oti alla toy eipe o k. Mperns kai toy eqese qema tromokratias...

NIKOLAOY: Apo poy to diapistwsate;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Apo ayta poy leei kai dinei h amerikanikh presbeia kai eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas.

NIKOLAOY: Epeidh to qema einai poly sobaro, qa parakaloysa na fygoyme apo tis diarroes kai epishs, na fygoyme apo diafores eikasies. Ayto poy exei shmasia einai oti h Ellada antimetwpizei to fainomeno, me ton tropo poy to antimetwpizoyn kai oles oi politismenes xwres toy kosmoy kai oti gia to qema ayto synergazetai me oloys osoi einai se qesh na prosferoyn kati parapanw sthn antimetwpish toy, sto plaisio twn dieqnwn sxesewn kai dieqnwn ypoxrewsewn ths kai tipota peraiterw. H Ellada den qa mpei sth qesh toy apologoymenoy gia to qema ayto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati k. Ekproswpe, tis teleytaies hmeres, piezoyn toso poly oi Amerikanoi gyrw apo ayto to qema;

NIKOLAOY: Emeis den exoyme antilhfqei tetoies pieseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Tis exoyn antilhfqei oloi oi alloi, ektos apo esas;

NIKOLAOY: Emeis den tis exoyme antilhfqei kai nomizw oti kaneis, epishs, den exei antilhfqei pieseis. Yparxoyn synergasies -epanalambanw- ths xwras mas, yparxoyn dieqneis ypoxrewseis ths xwras mas, tis opoies aparegklita threi. Den yparxoyn pieseis, oyte ypodeijeis. H xwra mas kineitai me bash ayta poy prepei na kanei kai prospaqei na ginei kalyterh, se sxesh me ayta poy mporei na kanei.

BITALHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, an epimenei h ellhnikh pleyra sthn antimetwpish aytoy toy qematos ths tromokratias se diabalkaniko epipedo h ejetazei sobara thn protash poy ypoblhqhke apo thn Toyrkia, gia dimerh synanthsh gia qemata tromokratias.

NIKOLAOY: To apanthsame ayto thn Paraskeyh.

BITALHS: Aplws, yphrje kai anakoinwsh.

NIKOLAOY: H dikh mas qesh entassei thn antimetwpish ayth sto plaisio mias dieqnoys prospaqeias.

KARGOYDH: Ep` aytoy. Exw thn entypwsh pia, dhladh, me tis newteres plhrofories apo to periexomeno ths epistolhs toy k. Papandreoy, epi ths arxhs, h Ellada fainetai oti den apokleiei th synach mias dimeroys symfwnias me thn Toyrkia, bebaia se sygkekrimeno plaisio, organwmeno egklhma, narkwtika k. lp. kai enallaktika proteinetai h polymerhs balkanikh.

NIKOLAOY: Na sas pw to ejhs: O k. Papandreoy htan safhs sthn epistolh toy. Merika tmhmata ths sas ta aneptyja thn Paraskeyh kai eixame thn eykairia na synomilhsoyme analytika kai na dwsoyme orismenes dieykriniseis gia ton tropo me ton opoio h xwra mas antimetwpizei to qema. Eipame oti gia mas yparxei ena synolo qematwn poy exoyn sxesh me th dhmosia tajh kai thn asfaleia. Kai anefera, malista -ta anaferei, allwste, kai o k. Papandreoy- endeiktika orismena qemata poy exoyn sxesh me th laqrometanasteysh, thn katapolemhsh twn narkwtikwn, thn katapolemhsh toy koinoy egklhmatos k. t. l. Ayto einai to basiko plaisio. Kai malista, eipame oti emeis den dinoyme jexwristh kai eidikh anafora sto qema ths tromokratias kai shmeiwsame akoma oti exoyme diafora ston tropo me ton opoio emeis antimetwpizoyme kai ennooyme to qema ths tromokratias, apo ton tropo me ton opoio to antimetwpizei h Toyrkia. Epishs, prosqesame oti den exoyme dexqei pote kai oyte qa dexqoyme, bebaiws, tis toyrkikes aitiaseis gia to qema, tis opoies kai aporriptoyme. Ara, loipon, kai h epistolh toy k. Papandreoy katateinei sthn proqesh mas na syzhthsoyme gia ta epimeroys qemata poy perilambanontai stis epistoles, oi opoies anthllaghsan metajy toy k. Papandreoy kai toy k. Tzem, ypo to prisma twn dikwn mas ektimhsewn kai eishghsewn, oson afora thn antimetwpish toy qematos sto opoio anaferqhkate.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati oi Amerikanoi twra "foyntwnoyn" to qema ths tromokratias; Ti zhtane k. Genike, mhpws jerete;

NIKOLAOY: Epanelaba kai prin oti den exoyme antilhfqei oti yparxei kapoio "foyntwma", opws to xarakthrisate. Den exoyme antilhfqei kati tetoio. Yparxei mia staqerh antilhch ths kybernhshs twn HPA gia thn patajh ths tromokratias. Yparxei kai mia dikh mas staqerh proqesh gia thn katapolemhsh ths tromokratias. Epanalambanw, eimaste diateqeimenoi -kai to kanoyme panta allwste, staqera to kanoyn oi ellhnikes kybernhseis, ola ta teleytaia xronia- na synergastoyme me oles tis xwres kai me oloys toys dieqneis organismoys gia thn katapolemhsh aytoy toy fainomenoy. Alla to qema ayto exei gia mas tis pragmatikes diastaseis toy kai den myqopoieitai, den megistopoieitai.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, symfwna me to plhres keimeno ths epistolhs toy k. Papandreoy pros ton k. Tzem, poy dhmosieyetai sto "BHMA", o k. Ypoyrgos den apokleiei dimerh dialogo kai gia to qema ths tromokratias me thn Toyrkia. Eseis mas lete kati diaforetiko shmera edw;

NIKOLAOY: Egw sas lew ayto akribws poy leei kai o k. Papandreoy.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Kai ena deytero qema: Poia einai akribws gia thn ellhnikh kybernhsh h diafora antilhcewn poy exei h Ellada kai h Toyrkia gia thn tromokratia;

NIKOLAOY: Isws, na mhn hsastan edw thn Paraskeyh, otan syzhthsame analytika to qema kai apanthsa se erwthseis synadelfwn sas. H anafora poy mporw na janakanw, einai oti h Ellada den exei dexqei pote kai oyte qa dexqei tis gnwstes aitiaseis ths Toyrkias se sxesh me to qema ayto. Kai antimetwpizoyme, opws sas eipa, ola ta epimeroys qemata se ena plaisio syzhthsewn poy mporei na ginoyn kai endexomenws mporei na katalhjoyn kai se kapoies symfwnies gia synergasies. Anaferomai panta sta qemata poy perilambanontai sthn epistolh toy k. Papandreoy pros ton k. Tzem.

KARGOYDH: Enocei kai ths synanthshs twn kyriwn Papandreoy kai Tzem, thn Tetarth, legetai oti mesa se ola ta alla qa epidiwxqei na staqeropoihqei mia epikoinwnia se epipedo ychlobaqmwn twn dyo ypoyrgeiwn Ejwterikwn, apo toyde kai sto ejhs, oi opoioi qa epejergastoyn, efoson yparjei symfwnia thn Tetarth metajy twn dyo ypoyrgwn kai genikws qa exoyn to noy toys se monimh bash metajy twn dyo xwrwn se opoio problhma prokycei. Einai aytos o telikos stoxos ayths ths synanthshs thn Tetarth;

NIKOLAOY: Qa elega na mhn pame akoma ston teliko stoxo. Epikeitai h synanthsh, yparxoyn oi gnwstes epistoles oi opoies anthllaghsan. Kat' arxhn eimaste sth syzhthsh twn qematwn poy emperiexontai stis dyo epistoles. An yparjei kapoio apotelesma, ayto einai ena deytero qema. Alla akomh eimaste sthn arxh. As perimenoyme, loipon, th synanthsh.

KARGOYDH: Einai omws mia epidiwjh ayto apo thn ellhnikh pleyra...

NIKOLAOY: Efoson yparjei ena klima synergasias s' ayta ta epimeroys qemata poy periexontai stis epistoles kai anaferontai apo thn pleyra ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, opws emperiexontai sthn epistolh toy k. Papandreoy, qa anazhthqoyn meta kai tropoi gia na proxwrhsei to qema, na yparjei diadikasia peraiterw texnikhs, as to poyme etsi, diereynhshs. Alla den eimaste ekei akomh.

KARASABBA: Ws pros to qema ths tromokratias, qa hqela na rwthsw to oti oi anwtatoi Amerikanoi ajiwmatoyxoi epishmainoyn kapoia problhmata se qemata synergasias metajy amerikanikwn mystikwn yphresiwn kai twn antistoixwn yphresiwn edw sthn Ellada, qa hqela na rwthsw, an ontws exoyme dexqei orismenes aithseis gia dieykolynseis sto ergo toys kai giati exoyn arnhqei apo thn ellhnikh pleyra. Kai deyteron qa hqela na mas kanete ena sxolio sxetika me to qanato toy Gewrgioy Papadopoyloy.

NIKOLAOY: Oson afora to prwto qema, mporw na sas pw oti den yparxei kamia aithsh gia paroxh opoiwndhpote dieykolynsewn. Oyte yparxei kataqesh kapoias aithshs h apaithshs. Yparxei synergasia, alla den yparxei kati parapanw ap' ayto.

Se oti afora th deyterh erwthsh sas, ayto poy mporoyme na poyme oti o Gewrgios Papadopoylos yphrje prwtagwnisths mias apo tis pio mayres selides gia th xwra kai to lao mas. H eptaxronh diktatoria den talaipwrhse mono, den fylakise mono, den ejorise mono, den skotwse mono, alla ekleise kai me ena tragiko tropo gia th xwra, poy htan o akrwthriasmos ths Kyproy.

Tetoies mayres selides, as elpisoyme kai as prospaqhsoyme oloi, o ellhnikos laos kai h patrida mas na mhn janazhsei.

Sas eyxaristw.

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