Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-06-25

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 25 Ioynioy 1999

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KIRMPAKHS: O k. Papandreoy esteile, shmera, thn epistolh ston k. Tzem;

NIKOLAOY: H epistolh toy k. Papandreoy apostelletai, shmera, ston k. Tzem dia ths diplwmatikhs odoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Apo to periexomeno ths epistolhs exete kati na mas peite;

NIKOLAOY: O k. Papandreoy perigrafei sthn epistolh toy ena synolo qematwn sta opoia qa mporoysan na yparjoyn protaseis kai piqanothtes synergasias anamesa sthn Ellada kai thn Toyrkia. Ta qemata ayta aforoyn thn oikonomikh kai emporikh synergasia, thn prostasia toy periballontos kai ton toyrismo, kaqws kai thn katapolemhsh toy organwmenoy egklhmatos, th laqrometanasteysh, ta narkwtika kai thn tromokratia. Qemata, dhladh, poy exoyn sxesh me thn asfaleia kai th dhmosia tajh. Se oti afora ta alla, ta meizona qemata ta opoia, opws gnwrizete, yparxoyn panta ws ajiwseis kai apeiles ths Toyrkias, h qesh ths xwras mas paramenei pagia. Oti h Toyrkia, dhladh, ofeilei na sebastei to Dieqnes Dikaio kai tis dieqneis synqhkes kai thn armodiothta kai th dikaiodosia toy Dieqnoys Dikasthrioy ths Xaghs, efoson pisteyei oti yparxoyn qemata anoixta. Ayta se genikes grammes periexei h epistolh poy qa aposteilei o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn.

BITALHS: Sto idio qema, qa hqela na moy dieykrinisete, giati yparxei xwristh anafora sto qema ths tromokratias; Poy mporoyme na syzhthsoyme me thn Toyrkia gia thn tromokratia, me dedomenes tis gnwstes aitiaseis ths Toyrkias gia thn tromokratia kai th synergasia ths Elladas me "tromokratikes" organwseis;

NIKOLAOY: Den yparxei xwristh anafora. Ayto poy qa prepei na epishmanoyme einai oti h epistolh toy k. Papandreoy anaferetai se ena synolo qematwn, sta opoia pisteyei h xwra mas oti qa mporoyse na yparjei mia synergasia me thn Toyrkia. Anaferomaste se ena synolo qematwn poy exoyn na kanoyn me thn asfaleia kai th dhmosia tajh kai ta opoia, opws sas eipa, exoyn sxesh me th laqrometanasteysh, thn katapolemhsh toy organwmenoy egklhmatos, th diakinhsh twn narkwtikwn kai alla. Einai profanes oti den exoyme thn idia ektimhsh me thn Toyrkia gia thn proteraiothta orismenwn qematwn kai, asfalws, den exoyme thn idia ektimhsh gia ta qemata ths tromokratias kai aporriptoyme tis gnwstes aitiaseis ths. O k. Papandreoy topoqetei ena synolo qematwn, sta opoia qa mporoyse na yparjei anaptyjh sxesewn kai na prokycoyn symfwnies.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate kai gia tromokratia, prohgoymenws, oti einai mesa ki ayto.

NIKOLAOY: Bebaiws to eipa, alla qelw na dieykrinisw to ejhs: H ennoia poy dinei o kaqenas sto ti einai kai ti den einai tromokratia einai diaforetikh. Einai safes oti h xwra mas exei aporricei, opws jerete, edw kai para polla xronia, kai ejakoloyqei na to kanei, tis aitiaseis poy yparxoyn apo th geitonikh xwra. Einai gnwstes aytes oi aitiaseis. Den xreiazetai na tis epanalabw, gnwrizete se ti anaferomai. Tis exoyme aporricei safws kai xwris kamia peristrofh. Ara, den anaferomaste s` ayta ta qemata. Anaferomaste sta qemata me thn eyreia ennoia twn qematwn ths dhmosias tajhs kai ths asfaleias. S` ena plaisio qematwn -epanalambanw- sta opoia symperilambanontai ta narkwtika, h prostasia apo th laqrometanasteysh, h katapolemhsh toy koinoy egklhmatos kai ta loipa. Qelw na dieykrinisw, dhladh, oti h epistolh-apanthsh toy k. Papandreoy den exei kamia sxesh me tis gnwstes aitiaseis poy proballei h Toyrkia, tis opoies, opws einai gnwsto, emeis den apodexomaste.

MOYRTZHS: Se dimeres epipedo qa yparxoyn epafes kai synennohseis gia thn ylopoihsh aytwn twn qematwn;

NIKOLAOY: Ayth th stigmh exoyme thn apostolh ths epistolhs. Den yparxei kati allo, pros to paron. Einai qemata poy qa syzhthqoyn en kairw kai efoson, bebaiws, yparjoyn dynatothtes proseggishs se orismena tetoia qemata.

SOYGLERHS: Mexri poy qa fqasei telika h astynomeysh sthn Ellada, meta ta teleytaia kroysmata poy exoyme apo lhsteies, apagwges, fonoys k. lp.; Giati telika h xwra mas, ton teleytaio mhna, paroysiazei mia eikona xeiroterh apo kaqe allh fora.

NIKOLAOY: Kat` arxhn, den qa symfwnhsw me thn ektimhsh sas. Den exoyme thn idia eikona. To oti yparxoyn kroysmata egklhmatikothtas sth xwra mas, yparxoyn. To oti yparxei problhma egklhmatikothtas sth xwra, yparxei. Den amfiballei kaneis gi` ayto. Ginontai, omws, kai para polles prospaqeies kai exoyme kai para polles epityxies. Synexizoyme ton agwna kata toy organwmenoy egklhmatos, eite einai egxwrio, eite einai eisagomeno. Kai einai mia prospaqeia h opoia ginetai kai qa synexisei na ginetai me ayjanomeno ryqmo kai me epityxies.

SOYGLERHS: Ta stoixeia, omws, martyroyn to antiqeto.

NIKOLAOY: Den symfwnw oti ta stoixeia martyroyn to antiqeto. Exw orismena stoixeia apo to ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs. Den martyroyn kati tetoio. Ayto poy prepei na pei kaneis gia na antimetwpistei to qema, einai to ejhs: Den kleinei kaneis ta matia toy. Bebaiws, yparxei ena problhma. To erwthma einai, ti kanei h ellhnikh politeia gia na to antimetwpisei. Kai h ellhnikh politeia exei arketa opla sth faretra ths gia na antimetwpisei to egklhma, eite egxwrio einai ayto, eite eisagomeno.

SOYGLERHS: To reportaz leei oti den einai kai toso kales oi sxeseis twn ajiwmatikwn ths Astynomias me thn politikh hgesia, ton teleytaio kairo, oti yparxoyn diafores sygkroyseis...

NIKOLAOY: Den yparxei tetoio qema. Ayto poy pisteyw einai oti h Ellhnikh Astynomia kanei th doyleia ths. Exei kai epityxies. Prepei, omws, na yparjei kai ena klima koinwnikhs, an qelete, synaineshs, gia th dhmioyrgia synqhkwn asfaleias gia toys Ellhnes polites. H Astynomia prepei na afeqei aperispasth na kanei th doyleia ths. Epanalambanw, exei kai epityxies. Prepei na th bohqhsoyme na xtyphsei to organwmeno egklhma.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxei dhladh, asfaleia sth xwra mas; Mporoyme na koimomaste hsyxoi;

NIKOLAOY: Mporeite k. Stamatopoyle na koimaste hsyxos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh milhsate gia eisagomeno egklhma kai gia toys allodapoys, eidika, den yparxei mia ejarsh; Den thn blepete ayth thn ejarsh eseis me toys jenoys kai eidika toys Albanoys; As mhn krybomaste.

NIKOLAOY: Ayto einai ena qema poy exei -opws jerete- epanelqei polles fores stis syzhthseis. Ena endeiktiko stoixeio poy exw kai sto opoio mporei na anaferqei kaneis, kai proerxetai apo to ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs, einai oti to a' ejamhno toy 1999 eixame 35 anqrwpoktonies apo tis opoies h Ellhnikh Astynomia exei ejixniasei tis 19. Oi ypoloipes den exoyn ejixniastei. Apo aytes tis 19 anqrwpoktonies, stis 14 drastes htan Ellhnes kai stis ypoloipes htan allodapoi. Me ayto qelw na pw oti bebaiws yparxei ena problhma, to anagnwrizei h ellhnikh koinwnia kai to anagnwrizei kai h kybernhsh, alla den prepei to problhma ayto na to myqopoioyme kai na to megistopoioyme. To organwmeno egklhma den exei xrwma kai polles fores den exei kai fylh. Prepei n' antimetwpizetai kai na patassetai ap' opoy kai an proerxetai, eite einai eisagomeno, eite einai egxwrio. Kai pisteyw kai epanalambanw oti ginontai sobares prospaqeies. Problhma yparxei, alla yparxei kai diaqesh kai proqesh kai sxedio n' antimetwpistei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gnwrizete oti yparxoyn problhmata sta Swmata Asfaleias, dhladh sthn Astynomia, kai Pyrosbestikh kai Limeniko;

NIKOLAOY: Se ti eidoys problhmata anafereste;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxoyn problhmata kai etoimazontai apergiakes kinhtopoihseis.

NIKOLAOY: Den gnwrizw an etoimazontai apergiakes kinhtopoihseis. Kai den katalabainw se ti eidoys problhmata anafereste.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Exoyn oikonomika aithmata, exoyn aithmata me bardies, problhmata leitoyrgias, xwrwn...

NIKOLAOY: Gia na proxwrhsoyme sth syzhthsh mas mporw na zhthsw plhrh stoixeia apo to ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs kai th Deytera na sas analysw akribws pws exei h katastash. Alla en pash periptwsei to geniko sxolio poy mporei na kanei kaneis einai oti ta Swmata Asfaleias kanoyn th doyleia toys kai h kybernhsh prospaqei na ejasfalisei tis kalyteres dynates synqhkes. Sta eidika qemata, an qelete, mporw na epanelqw th Deytera.

Sas eyxaristw. Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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