Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-05-19

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 19 Maioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

* Prin dexqw tis erwthseis sas, qelw na kanw eisagwgikws ena sxolio gia to qema poy apotelese xqes to kyrio meros ths syzhthshs mas, sxetika me dhmosieyma sygkekrimenhs efhmeridas. To dhmosieyma ayto den apodidei, opws eipa kai xqes, thn pragmatikothta. Epibebaiwnontai plhrws oi qeseis poy aneptyja xqes. Yparxoyn sth diaqesh pantos endiaferomenoy ola ta eggrafa, oles oi diasafhseis, ola ta ntokoymenta poy pistopoioyn oti kaqe allo para antapokrinetai sthn pragmatikothta o isxyrismos ths efhmeridas gia dieleysh apo to aerodromio toy Ellhnikoy fortiwn, me periexomeno ta ylika poy isxyrizetai o syntakths ths efhmeridas poy egrace ayto to reportaz.

SOYRMELIDHS: Omws, h efhmerida epanerxetai shmera.

REPPAS: Dystyxws, epanerxetai. To eixa problecei, alla den epanhlqe o synadelfos sas, gia na exoyme th dynatothta na kanoyme ayto to dialogo. Epanalambanw oti ta ntokoymenta einai sth diaqesh sas. Prepei akomh na sas pw oti h sygkekrimenh etaireia ths opoias to aeroplano fwtografhqhke kai h fwtografia dhmosieythke, diamartyrhqhke me epistolh ths pros thn efhmerida, alla kai s` emena esteile analogo mhnyma. Epanalambanw oti exw ola ta stoixeia, olwn twn armodiwn yphresiwn kai toy kratikoy aerolimena toy Ellhnikoy, ta opoia apodeiknyoyn oti to dhmosieyma ayto den exei kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. Parakalw, loipon, kai pali na eimaste pio ypeyqynoi, oson afora ton tropo me ton opoio xeirizomaste toso shmantika kai sobara qemata. Den jerw an h ESHEA asxoleitai me ayta ta qemata, alla en pash periptwsei den mporoyme ki emeis na parakoloyqoyme kaqe mera ola ta dhmosieymata, polla apo ta opoia den antapokrinontai sthn pragmatikothta.

SOYRMELIDHS: Ola ta "konteiner" elegxontai;

REPPAS: Yparxoyn ola ta stoixeia ta opoia epibebaiwnoyn ayta poy sas aneptyja.

ANTYPAS: Exete na mas peite kati gia th synanthsh poy eixe nwritera o Prwqypoyrgos me ton ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynas;

REPPAS: Syzhthsan qemata armodiothtas toy ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas. Den yparxei tipota allo. Einai sto plaisio twn taktikwn epafwn poy exei o Prwqypoyrgos me synergates toy kai idiaiterws me melh ths kybernhshs.

ANTYPAS: Egine mhpws kapoia ektimhsh gia thn krish sto Kosobo;

REPPAS: Asfalws egine kai gi` ayto to qema syzhthsh. Gnwrizete oti o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy brisketai sth Filandia. Exei ekei shmantikes epafes. Pisteyoyme oti oi dynameis oi opoies exoyn topoqethqei eyqys ejarxhs yper ths politikhs proseggishs gia lysh ths krishs sto Kossyfopedio, paroysiazontai enisxymenes thn teleytaia periodo. Den prepei na kalliergoyme ypermetrh aisiodojia. Qa prepei, omws, na synexisoyme na ergazomaste me ton idio systhmatiko kai ypeyqyno tropo, prokeimenoy na katasthsoyme pragmatikh, pleon, politikh ths dieqnoys koinothtas ayth thn prospaqeia, thn epiqymia na broyme me politiko kai diplwmatiko tropo mia lysh sto problhma.

ANTYPAS: Qelw na sas rwthsw kai gia ena allo qema. Pws skeptetai h kybernhsh na antimetwpisei thn arnhtikh diafhmish poy jekinhse h Nea Dhmokratia;

REPPAS: Ayto to diafhmistiko mhnyma den ypografetai. Einai apokroystiko kai ekqeto. Manteyei, bebaiws, kapoios oti anhkei sth N. D., h opoia to yioqetei. Den arneitai oti einai o empneysths toy. Kata ta alla, to diafhmistiko mhnyma einai taytoshmo me thn politikh ths N. D. Kai ta dyo apoteloyn eikonikh pragmatikothta. Einai gkriza diafhmish. Einai arnhtikh diafhmish. Kai telikws einai arnhtikh gia thn idia th N. D. Emeis exoyme qetiko logo, epeidh akribws exoyme na paroysiasoyme pragmatiko ergo. Kai o logos mas einai qetikos, einai alhqhs, giati sthrizetai sthn alhqeia twn ergwn mas. Enw, opws exw pei kat` epanalhch, h N. D. sthrizetai sto ceydos twn logwn ths kai prospaqei na antistrecei ta epixeirhmata ths kybernhshs, pisteyontas oti etsi qa kerdisei thn empistosynh toy ellhnikoy laoy. Mataioponei.

MIXAHL: Ws armodios ypoyrgos Typoy skefteste na labete kapoia metra, dhladh na diereynhsete gia to an epitrepetai h oxi na proballontai anypografes diafhmiseis;

REPPAS: Sth diafhmistikh praktikh ayto einai kati poy ginetai. Den einai ayto to opoio epikratei ws meqodos. Einai kati, omws, poy akoloyqeitai se polles periptwseis. Oi diafhmistes to apokaloyn ayto "teaser" -gia na xrhsimopoihsw mia jenh lejh, epeidh ayth einai h orologia. Qa akoloyqhsei, bebaiws, kata thn anaptyjh ths kampanias, ena allo deigma, to opoio qa einai diadoxo toy mhnymatos poy twra proballetai. Etsi ki alliws, omws, h epilogh ayth einai pantelws atyxhs. Xarakthrizei aytoys poy thn empneysthkan. Kai pisteyw oti toys xarakthrizei apolytws arnhtika.

MIXAHL: Se ena allo qema qelw na rwthsw. Blepoyme na yparxei mia diplwmatikh kinhtikothta, h opoia genna prosdokies kai menei na epibebaiwqoyn apo thn episkech Tsernomirntin sto Beligradi shmera. H ellhnikh kybernhsh ti ektima; Pame se telos twn bombardismwn kai twn exqroprajiwn;

REPPAS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh ergazetai se ayth thn kateyqynsh. Einai qetikh ejelijh to gegonos oti kai alles dynameis, oi opoies ginontai olo kai perissoteres, kinoyntai pros thn idia kateyqynsh. Sthn kateyqynsh apofyghs xrhsimopoihshs xersaiwn dynamewn -ayto fainetai oti apokleietai pleon oristika kai einai poly eyxaristh ejelijh- alla kai sthn kateyqynsh anazhthshs politikhs lyshs sto problhma, me thn emplokh toy OHE, mesw toy Symboylioy Asfaleias, me th dynatothta diapragmateysewn metajy twn dyo pleyrwn kai me thn parembash toy dieqnoys paragonta, o opoios ayth thn wra ekproswpeitai apo ton Proedro ths Filandias k. Axtisaari, poy exei analabei ayto ton eidiko rolo toy apestalmenoy twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn. Emeis parakoloyqoyme aytes tis ejelijeis, symmetexoyme se aytes tis syzhthseis kai diapragmateyseis kai pisteyoyme oti einai pio konta para pote h politikh lysh. Pio konta para potes apo tote poy arxise h krish sto Kossyfopedio. Ayto, omws, den shmainei oti eimaste konta sth lysh. Eimaste pio konta ap` oti hmastan olh thn prohgoymenh periodo. Fainetai, omws, pws prepei na dianysoyme akomh arketh apostash gia na ftasoyme sthn politikh lysh, thn opoia bebaiws qa epityxoyme, an thn epiqymoyn kai ergastoyn gi ` aythn oles oi pleyres.

SOYGLERHS: H kybernhsh omws, dia twn stelexwn ths, me kapoies dhlwseis, mhpws epidiwkei thn polwsh enocei twn eyrweklogwn, giati akoysame kai ton k. Pagkalo kai kapoioys alloys na kathgoroyn th N. D. gia th "gkriza" diafhmish ths. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

REPPAS: Pisteyw oti h pio isxyrh -anistorhth pantws kai ejwpragmatikh- epiqesh poy egine sthn kybernhsh einai o xarakthrismos poy dexqhke h kybernhsh ws "kaqestws", apo ton ekproswpo ths N. D. To na xarakthriseis etsi mia kybernhsh, mia kybernhtikh paratajh einai san na epimeneis oti exei katalyqei h dhmokratia ston topo. Eseis gnwrizete poly kala oti h dhmokratia anqei sthn Ellada, epi twn hmerwn ths diakybernhshs ths xwras apo to PASOK. Pisteyw, loipon, oti "hrjanto xeirwn adikwn", oi filoi ths N. D. kai den prepei na einai yperhfanoi gi` ayto. O ellhnikos laos, o opoios antimetwpizei problhmata -kai to anagnwrizoyme ayto- anamenei apo ta kommata ypeyqynoys xeirismoys gia na lysoyme ta problhmata ths xwras. Kapoioi alloi epiqymoyn antallagh ybrewn kai sykofantiwn. Den qa toys parakoloyqhsoyme, alla bebaiws pantote qa dinoyme apanthseis se aytoys oi opoioi epitiqentai, xwris na nomimopoioyntai gi' ayto.

SOYGLERHS: Prwth h kybernhsh jekinhse aytes tis dhlwseis. An mh ti allo, o k. Pagkalos eipe oti o k. Karamanlhs me ton k. Sphliwtopoylo pane sta mpar kai ekei kanoyn politikh. Elexqh kati tetoio. Apo kei arxise olh h antiparaqesh.

REPPAS: An epixeirhsete na topoqethsete se xronologikh seira tis dhlwseis h tis omilies stelexwn twn diaforwn kommatwn, qa deite oti apo th N. D. ektojeythke to prwton, ayth h kathgoria -h prwtotyph omologoymenws, alla apolytws ceydhs- peri kaqestwtikhs nootropias. Exoyme apanthsei egkairws. Pisteyw oti h N. D. anoije ena dromo, o opoios einai olisqhros, kyriws gia thn idia kai den qa thn parakoloyqhsoyme. Apo kei kai pera, den nomizw oti ayto mporei na zygizetai sthn idia zygaria me dhlwseis, oi opoies ginontai apo diafora stelexh. O kaqenas me to diko toy yfos kai proswpiko stil, probainei se dhlwseis. To qema einai oti h epishmh grammh ths N. D. ekfrasthke, apo ton ekproswpo ths, me ayth th barytath kathgoria enantion toy PASOK, oti eimaste mia paratajh, mia kybernhsh poy exei kaqestwtiko xarakthra kai oxi koinoboyleytiko.

SOYRMELIDHS: Ta 54 amerikanika aeroplana poy qa briskontai se aerodromia ths Toyrkias, exei zhthqei na perasoyn apo ton ellhniko enaerio xwro;

REPPAS: Exoyme diatypwsei th qesh mas. H qesh mas paramenei staqerh. Oydeis eqese tetoio qema.

SOYRMELIDHS: To erwtw epeidh sto xqesino briefing toy Pentagwnoy apo ton k. Mpeikon kai Ajiwmatikoys, diatypwqhke h apoch oti oydeis eqese qema apagoreyshs gia toys enaerioys xwroys toy NATO, qema apagoreyshs pthsewn amerikanikwn aeroplanwn.

REPPAS: Exw tis dhlwseis toy k. Mpeikon mprosta moy. An tis exete ki eseis, parakalw na anatrejete sto sygkekrimeno shmeio, to opoio epikaleiste gia na diatypwsete thn erwthsh sas.

SOYRMELIDHS: Se periptwsh poy yparjoyn eniaioi sxhmatismoi amerikanikwn kai toyrkikwn aeroplanwn, qa mporesoyn ta toyrkika aeroplana...

REPPAS: Isxyei h apanthsh poy edwsa sthn prwth erwthsh sas. H qesh mas einai safhs, paramenei staqerh, den allazei.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Exete ypoch sas an to teleytaio diasthma stratiwtika aeroskafh jenwn xwrwn dierxontai, mesw toy Ellhnikoy, me proorismo ta Tirana;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw na exoyn katagrafei tetoia peristatika sto aerodromio toy Ellhnikoy. Pisteyw oti ayto den symbainei. Ta stratiwtika aeroskafh ta opoia exoyn proorismo ta Tirana -epeidh ekei prepei na fqasoyn gia na ektelesoyn mia apostolh- mporoyn na pane kateyqeian sta Tirana. Gia thn paroxh anqrwpistikhs bohqeias xrhsimopoieitai to aerodromio toy Ellhnikoy ws endiamesos staqmos, epeidh yparxei ayth h yperfortwsh toy aerodromioy twn Tiranwn, alla kai giati einai megalytero kai prepei na metaferqoyn ayta ta megala fortia, ta opoia sth synexeia prowqoyntai dia ths qalassias odoy, poy krinetai kai asfalesterh, sta limania ths Albanias. To aerodromio toy Ellhnikoy, mexri twra, xrhsimopoieitai kata kyrio logo -an oxi gia apokleistiko logo- gi ayto ton skopo.

* H ayrianh politikh enhmerwsh qa ginei stis 13.30.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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