Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-05-12

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 12 Maioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Na sas pw en taxei to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia tis epomenes hmeres:

* Shmera to apogeyma, stis 7 h wra, qa apanthsei se erwthsh toy boyleyth ths N. D. k. Sioyfa sto plaisio ths "Wras toy Prwqypoyrgoy". Mia wra argotera qa ekfwnhsei logo se sygkentrwsh stelexwn toy PASOK, sth Nikaia, ta opoia symmetexoyn stis eklogikes epitropes toy Kinhmatos gia tis Eyrwekloges.

* Ayrio to prwi, qa dexqei neoys se hlikia boyleytes apo Koinoboylia eyrwpaikwn xwrwn. To apogeyma qa proedreysei se syskech ths Epitrophs, sto PASOK, gia tis Eyrwekloges kai to brady stis 8.30 qa episkefqei toys aqlhtes ths Arshs Barwn stoys xwroys aqlhshs kai proponhshs toys sto OAKA.

* Thn Paraskeyh to prwi, qa dexqei ton Proedro toy germanikoy Koinoboylioy k. Tirse kai meta qa proedreysei sth synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, sto Megaro Majimoy.

* To Sabbato qa milhsei se anoixth sygkentrwsh sthn Komothnh.

* Thn Kyriakh qa ekfwnhsei logo sthn Kalamata. Oi dyo aytes omilies entassontai sto plaisio ths proeklogikhs ekstrateias toy PASOK, enocei twn Eyrweklogwn

Epishs, qelw na sas pw oti syzhteitai sth Boylh nomosxedio poy afora mh kybernhtikes organwseis. Gia prwth fora sthn Ellada aytonomoi mh kybernhtikoi foreis, oi opoioi idiaiterws thn teleytaia periodo exoyn anaptyjei mia shmantikh drasthriothta, antimetwpizontai me tetoio tropo apo to ellhniko kratos. Eimaste mia xwra h opoia exei kales sxeseis me tis xwres toy Tritoy Kosmoy. Symmetexoyme se programmata paroxhs anqrwpistikhs bohqeias. To rolo ayto se shmantiko baqmo analambanoyn mh kybernhtikes organwseis. Gia prwth fora diatypwnetai mia plhrhs protash. Qespizetai ena plaisio kai oi organwseis aytes anagoreyontai se pronomiakoys synomilhtes kai synergates ths Politeias gia thn askhsh ths politikhs toys s' aytoys toys tomeis. Stoys tomeis, dhladh, ths anqrwpistikhs kai anaptyjiakhs bohqeias.

Opws gnwrizete, stis arxes Ioynioy, qa ginei sth Qessalonikh h Dieqnhs Diaskech gia thn anqrwpistikh bohqeia stis plhttomenes apo thn krish sto Kossyfopedio xwres. Sth Diaskech ayth kaloyntai kai qa laboyn meros megaloi dieqneis organismoi, xrhmatodotikoi foreis, opws to Dieqnes Nomismatiko Tameio, h Dieqnhs Trapeza, o OOSA kai bebaiws xwres, opws h Rwsia kai h Iapwnia h opoia exei ekfrasei endiaferon na labei meros s' ayto to programma.

Sthn kateyqynsh ths diorganwshs ayths ths megalhs diaskechs ergazontai oi yphresies toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn. Me leptomereies qa milhsei o k. Papandreoy sth synenteyjh Typoy poy qa dwsei se ligh wra.

Oson afora th Diaskech gia th staqerothta kai thn anaptyjh ths perioxhs -milw gia thn idea kai protash ths germanikhs proedrias- einai se ejelijh seira energeiwn kai diaskecewn. Stis 17 aytoy toy mhna, stis Bryjelles, qa ginei Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn. Exei prosklhqei kai qa labei meros kai o k. Roygkoba. Opws gnwrizete stis 27 Maioy qa ginei sto Petersmpergk ths Germanias h Diaskech, poy exei sygkalesei o Germanos ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Fiser. Kai bebaiws sthn ektakth Synodo Koryfhs sthn Kolwnia, stis 3 kai 4 Ioynioy, ena apo ta qemata qa einai kai ayto ths paroxhs anqrwpistikhs bohqeias gia thn anasygkrothsh ths perioxhs. Emeis symmetexoyme s' ayto to programma. Prepei na pw oti h protash ayth endiaferei idiaiterws thn perioxh twn Balkaniwn kai thn Ellada. Exoyme pei kat' epanalhch, oti h perioxh ayth qa prepei na episyrei to endiaferon kai thn prosoxh ths dieqnoys koinothtas, oxi mono se periodoys krishs, alla kai se kairo eirhnhs.

H protash ayth qa ejelixqei se treis ajones:

* O prwtos afora thn politikh staqerothta, th dhmioyrgia mhxanismoy poy qa eggyatai to aparabiasto twn synorwn.

* O deyteros afora thn paroxh anqrwpistikhs bohqeias kai thn enisxysh twn prospaqeiwn gia thn oikonomikh anaptyjh ths perioxhs. Kai,

* O tritos ajonas afora th dhmioyrgia sygxronwn dhmokratikwn kai koinoboyleytikwn qesmwn.

Pisteyoyme oti einai poly shmantiko to endiaferon poy exei ekdhlwqei. Elpizoyme oti h prospaqeia ayth, etsi opws qa ejelixqei kai oloklhrwqei, qa einai epityxhs, wste epiteloys na dhmioyrghqoyn nees synqhkes gia thn kalyterh dimerh kai polymerh synergasia kai bebaiws thn eyhmeria twn lawn poy zoyn s' ayth thn perioxh.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

BITALHS: Epeidh anaferqhkate twra sto qema ths Diaskechs gia to Symfwno Staqerothtas kai Anaptyjhs, qa hqela na sas rwthsw to ejhs: Symfwnei h ellhnikh kybernhsh me oles aytes tis probleceis poy yparxoyn sto sxedio ths germanikhs pleyras -nomizw oti yparxei ena dhmosieyma shmera- peri mhxanismoy, o opoios anamignyetai akoma kai stis eqnikes politikes twn balkanikwn xwrwn, oson afora ta meionotika zhthmata.

REPPAS: Prwta ap' ola, h protash ayth apotelei, opws eipate swsta ki eseis, ena sxedio, to opoio qa syzhthqei kai qa tyxei analoghs epejergasias. Den apotelei thn telikh qesh. Epeita, emeis oi idioi eimaste aytoi oi opoioi epiqymoyme na epideixqei endiaferon gia thn perioxh ayth, prokeimenoy na ypobohqhqei kai oi laoi ths na anazhthsoyn kai na broyn ena kalytero dromo pros to mellon. Einai koinh desmeysh olwn -kai ayto apotelei stoixeio ek twn oyk aney- oti h kaqe xwra qa askei ta kyriarxika dikaiwmata ths sthn epikrateia ths. Ta synora einai dedomena. Oloi symfwnoyme se ayto. Ara, den qa prepei na dinontai ermhneies, oi opoies den antapokrinontai stis pragmatikes proqeseis olwn ekeinwn oi opoioi epiqymoyn na symbaloyn sthn anasygkrothsh ths perioxhs. Pisteyw oti h epideijh endiaferontos apo to dieqnh paragonta, se polloys tomeis, einai qetikh, otan ayto to endiaferon afora kai erga oikonomikhs kai anqrwpistikhs bohqeias. Me ayth thn ennoia, den pisteyw oti dikaiologeitai opoiadhpote anhsyxia kai bebaiws den qa prepei na diatypwnontai yponoies, oti tektainetai kati to opoio qa yponomeysei, oysiastikws, thn aytonomia h thn kyriarxia twn xwrwn ths perioxhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kala einai ayta poy lete, alla, xqes, o k. Tsoxatzopoylos kai o k. Kranidiwths, ypegracan mia diakhryjh sth Dytikoeyrwpaikh Enwsh, sthn opoia grafei oti oi bombardismoi einai anagkaioi kai epibeblhmenoi. Pws einai dynaton, apo th mia pleyra na lete gia thn eirhnh kai thn anaptyjh ths perioxhs kai apo thn allh na lete oti einai anagkaioi kai epibeblhmenoi oi bombardismoi;

REPPAS: Prwta ap' ola, oson afora thn prospaqeia gia thn eirhnikh epilysh ths krishs, oxi mono aplws leme, alla prattoyme Gnwrizete oti eite monoi mas, eite me alloys, analambanoyme kai symmetexoyme se prwtoboylies poy exoyn ayto to skopo. Oson afora twra th syzhthsh, h opoia egine sto plaisio ths Dytikoeyrwpaikhs Enwshs, mporoyme na poyme oti epanelabe tis qeseis ths, oi opoies einai symfwnes kai yposthriktikes twn qesewn poy exoyn labei h E. E. kai to NATO gia thn antimetwpish ths krishs sto Kossyfopedio. Ayto, allwste, peripoy htan anamenomeno. Den allazei se tipota -oyte prepei na dhmioyrgei lanqasmenes entypwseis- th synexish ths prospaqeias poy kanoyme ki emeis, kai oxi mono emeis, prokeimenoy me thn analhch kai anaptyjh diaforwn prwtoboyliwn, na broyme telikws mia politikh lysh sto problhma ths Gioygkoslabias. Qa prepei otan ginontai syzhthseis se organa tetoiwn organismwn na anamenete poio qa einai to apotelesma. Epishs, gnwrizete poly kala, oti exoyme krathsei mia stash, h opoia mas diaforopoiei se poly krisima shmeia. Sto qema twn nhociwn, fer' eipein, eimaste apolytws arnhtikoi h kai se alla qemata, opoy throyme stash apoxhs. Alla, antilambaneste apo thn allh -kai qelw na eimai safhs se ayto- oti ws xwra poy symmetexoyme se Dieqneis Organismoys, analambanoyme kai sygkekrimenes ypoxrewseis, stis opoies prepei na antapokriqoyme. Kai antapokrinomaste se aytes tis ypoxrewseis mas, akoloyqwntas mia politikh, me gnwmona to eqniko symferon kai mono.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ti ennoeite "lanqasmenes entypwseis"; Den ypogracame ayto to xarti poy leei oti einai anagkaioi kai epibeblhmenoi oi bombardismoi; Yparxei xarti poy to leei kaqara.

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, eseis anamenete h Dytikoeyrwpaikh Enwsh na exei mia allh politikh proseggish apo ayth poy exoyn to NATO kai h E. E. Egw sas lew oti htan peripoy anamenomeno, h Dytikoeyrwpaikh Enwsh na ekfrasei mia qesh, h opoia qa einai parallhlh ayths poy exoyn ekfrasei kai oi alloi organismoi.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Diatypwsate epifylajeis;

REPPAS: Asfalws.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poy;

REPPAS: Se polla qemata. Milhsa gia to qema twn nhociwn. Yparxoyn kai alla qemata, gia ta opoia exoyme diatypwsei tis epifylajeis mas. Gnwrizete oti me oloys toys tropoys kai me ton pleon epishmo, dia stomatos Prwqypoyrgoy, exoyme dhmosiws pei tis qeseis mas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ti kanete omws; Pate kai ypografete...

REPPAS: Den yparxei kamia ypografh ths kybernhshs, opws th qewreite eseis. H Dytikoeyrwpaikh Enwsh -epanalambanw kai kleinw- exei qeseis, oi opoies einai parallhles me tis qeseis poy exoyn gia to idio qema h E. E. kai to NATO.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sas rwthsa kai proxqes kai moy eipate oti "den metexoyme". O k. Apostolakhs sth Boylh eipe oti metexoyme kai to epanelabe kai xqes, kapoy alloy. Metexoyme h den metexoyme me proswpiko;

REPPAS: Asfalws, den metexoyme. Eipame oti mporei se iptamena rantar -ta gnwsta sas AWACS- na symmetexei ellhniko plhrwma. Exoyme andres, poy stelexwnoyn aytes tis yphresies. Mporw na sas pw, omws, oti olh ayth thn periodo ths krishs, apo to Aktio poy mporei na xrhsimopoihqei gia drasthriothtes toy NATO, den exei apogeiwqei oyte ena AWACS. Ta sygkekrimena aeroplana, gnwrizete poly kala, periorizontai sto na askoyn kaqhkonta peripoloy. Den symmetexoyn se polemikes drasthriothtes. Den symmetexoyme. O k. Apostolakhs ekane mia poly qewrhtikh anafora, legontas oti asfalws yparxoyn andres, oi opoioi symmetexoyn stis NATOikes yphresies, se diafores perioxes. Apo kei kai pera, den prokyptei apo poyqena, doqentos oti ayth einai h kateyqynsh poy exoyme dwsei, oti symmetexoyn Ellhnes se stratiwtikes epixeirhseis. Einai safhs h qesh mas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oysiastikh htan, afoy eipe oti metexoyme kai apo to Aktio...

REPPAS: Kanete laqos. Kai sas kalw ayrio na ferete ta praktika, poy lene, opws yposthrizete eseis, oti apo to Aktio apogeiwqhkan AWACS, sta opoia symmetexoyn kai Ellhnes stratiwtes h pilotoi kai etsi kata synepeia lambanoyn meros stis stratiwtikes epixeirhseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ajiwmatikoi, leei.

REPPAS: Symbibazomai kai me to "ajiwmatikoi". Den ginetai kati tetoio k. Stamatopoyle.

POYLIDOY: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, sto paketo twn apofasewn gia to petrelaiko empargko kata ths Gioygkoslabias, yparxei kai problech gia desmeysh twn perioysiakwn stoixeiwn toy k. Milosebits, ana ton kosmo. H ellhnikh kybernhsh protiqetai na diereynhsei, an yparxoyn perioysiaka stoixeia toy Milosebits sthn Ellada kai na ta desmeysei;

REPPAS: Prwta ap' ola, den exei lhfqei tetoia apofash. To qema ayto qa syzhthqei kai pali. Emeis sto sygkekrimeno qema qa apexoyme. Apo kei kai pera, efoson lhfqei apofash, qa enarmonistoyme me thn apofash ayth kai qa prajoyme analogws, ws kratos-melos ths E. E. Ayto einai safes.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, alhqeyei oti to NATO petyxe kai phre to prasino fws apo thn Toyrkia kai th Boylgaria na xrhsimopoihsei ta stratiwtika toys aerodromia, gia na bombardisei th Gioygkoslabia; Gnwrizete kati eseis;

REPPAS: Sthn ellhnikh kybernhsh den exei teqei epishmws tetoio qema. Ej oswn exw diabasei, ekproswpoi ths kybernhshs ths Toyrkias exoyn epishs milhsei sxetika kai exoyn pei oti den exoyn ginei dektes tetoiwn protasewn. Ayto to opoio jerw einai oti den qa xrhsimopoihqoyn edafh ths xwras mas. Kai bebaiws, o enaerios xwros ths Elladas den qa xrhsimopoihqei gia th dieleysh aeroplanwn, ta opoia qa laboyn meros se stratiwtikes epixeirhseis.

Sas eyxaristw.

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