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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 6 Maioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Qa hqela eisagwgikws na kanw orismena sxolia gia qemata ths epikairothtas, xwris ajiologikh seira.

* As arxisoyme me qemata poy exoyn sxesh me thn paroxh anqrwpistikhs bohqeias sto Kossyfopedio. Shmera, ekproswpoi apo to ypoyrgeio Amynas ths xwras mas, empeirognwmones, episthmones, texnikoi, se synergasia me th diplwmatikh ekproswphsh mas sta Skopia, briskontai sto geitoniko kratos, prokeimenoy na epilegei -kai exei epilegei- o xwros, opoy tis epomenes hmeres, me thn paroysia kai bohqeia mikrhs omadas andrwn twn Enoplwn Dynamewn, qa dhmioyrghqei enas kataylismos gia thn paroxh bohqeias se prosfyges. Kati analogo exei ginei, opws gnwrizete, sthn Albania. H perioxh ayth brisketai 30 xiliometra ejw apo thn polh Kotobo, h opoia brisketai notiws twn Skopiwn. Sto synolo twn prwtoboyliwn kai twn drasthriothtwn mas, einai mia symplhrwmatikh energeia, h opoia dhlwnei -kai ayth- thn paroysia mas sthn perioxh.

* Ena deytero sxolio afora dhmosieyma se kapoies efhmerides, tis prohgoymenes hmeres, to opoio epanerxetai kai krinw skopimo na to sxoliasw kai na pw oti den antapokrinetai sthn pragmatikothta kai den dikaiologoyntai foboi. Einai ayto to opoio afora thn egkatastash, basei sygkekrimenoy sxedioy, megaloy ariqmoy prosfygwn sth notio Albania, sthn perioxh ths Boreioy Hpeiroy. Qelw na sas pw oti ta dhmosieyomena, se fwtotypia, keimena h sxedia aforoyn protaseis oi opoies eginan se ena prwto stadio apo yphresies ths albanikhs kybernhshs. H ellhnikh kybernhsh, amesws molis plhroforhqhke ayth thn protash poy exei ypoblhqei apo paragontes ths geitonikhs xwras, me parastash kai diabhma ston ekproswpo toy OASE ton k. Ebertz, presbh toy OASE sthn Albania, katorqwse na mh ginei dekto ayto to sxedio, ayth h eishghsh. Ara, ayth h entypwsh poy kalliergeitai gia sxedio egkatastashs megaloy ariqmoy prosfygwn, sth notio Albania, den dikaiologeitai giati den antapokrinetai sta pragmata.

* Qa moy epitrecete na anaferqw kai se ena qema poy afora asfalistika dikaiwmata gynaikwn. H qesh ths kybernhshs einai safhs: Sebomaste wrima asfalistika dikaiwmata twn politwn. Antilambanomaste thn anagkh prosarmoghs stis taseis poy epikratoyn pagkosmiws. Sta qemata isothtas exoyme, bebaiws, eyaisqhsia. Apo thn allh, omws, oi opoies prosarmoges qa ginoyn xwris kradasmoys, xwris na qigontai ta symferonta twn politwn. Yparxei apofash toy Areioy Pagoy, thn opoia qa melethsoyme me prosoxh. Qelw, omws, na eimai safhs oti tetoio qema den apasxolei, twra, thn kybernhsh.

* Qa kleisw, kanontas kai pali mia anafora sthn protash nomoy poy diatypwsan, xqes, synadelfoi ths N. D., oson afora thn katanomh toy xronoy sta hlektronika Mesa Enhmerwshs, prokeimenoy ta kommata na proballoyn tis qeseis toys. Exw ekdwsei mia dhlwsh, h opoia einai sth diaqesh sas. Parakalw na thn promhqeyteite, epeidh oi synadelfoi sas, arga to brady, isws den prolaban na symperilaboyn th dikh moy qesh sta keimena poy blepw, shmera, na dhmosieyontai gia to qema ayto. Qelw na exete ypoch sas to diko mas antilogo. H protash ayth ths N. D. einai proxeirh, atekmhriwth, ypokritikh kai palaiokommatikh. Exw milhsei gia ta qemata ayta, se prosfath syzhthsh sth Boylh, me aformh erwthsh synadelfoy boyleyth toy Synaspismoy. Exw dwsei analytikes apanthseis se ola ta synafh qemata poy prokyptoyn kai exoyn sxesh me th leitoyrgia toy ESR.

Oson afora th sygkekrimenh protash nomoy ths N. D., shmera, periorizomai na kanw mono dyo epishmanseis gia na anadeijw, kai me ayto ton tropo, thn proxeirothta kai to atekmhriwto ths. H kentrikh idea ths protashs ayths sxetizetai me thn anaqesh sto ESR kaqhkontos, armodiothtas na agorasei me xrhmata toy kratikoy proypologismoy, me ta opoia xrhmatodotoyntai gia tis politikes drasthriothtes toys ta kommata, thleoptiko xrono sta hlektronika Mesa Enhmerwshs gia na ton diaqesei sth synexeia, kat` analogia ths dynamhs toys, sta politika kommata.

Prepei na pw -to agnooyn, isws, oi synadelfoi- oti me thn apofash 930/90 toy Symboylioy ths Epikrateias, paromoia ryqmish eixe kriqei antisyntagmatikh. Aporw pws toys diafeygei.

Epishmainw akomh -kai ayto apodeiknyei, epishs, thn proxeirothta ths protashs ayths- oti mia tetoia ryqmish qa odhgoyse se dapanh pollwn disekatommyriwn draxmwn, afoy problepei thn ejasfalish xronoy dyo wrwn kaqhmerinws, se kaqe Meso Enhmerwshs, gia to synolo twn kommatwn. An ypologisete posa hlektronika Mesa Enhmerwshs -thleoptikoi kai radiofwnikoi staqmoi- leitoyrgoyn sthn prwteyoysa kai thn perifereia, ypologisete thn ejasfalish diwroy programmatos gia thn probolh twn qesewn twn kommatwn se kaqe ena staqmo kai to kostos poy anerxetai se kapoia ekatommyria gia kaqe lepto hlektronikoy xronoy, sthn thleorash h sto radiofwno, ta xrhmata poy apaitoyntai anerxontai se arketa disekatommyria draxmes. Ayta ta xrhmata qa prepei na afaireqoyn apo ta kommata, ta opoia, sto metajy, qa desmeyqoyn etsi ston tropo me ton opoio qa proballoyn tis qeseis toys. Kapoia politika kommata mporei na exoyn diaforetikes epiloges. Mporei na protimhsoyn ton Typo h alles epikoinwniakes drasthriothtes stis opoies qa epilejoyn ekeina na dapanhsoyn xrhmata, prokeimenoy etsi na ejasfalisoyn thn prowqhsh twn apocewn toys.

Epishs -anaferw ena deytero deigma gia na deijw thn proxeirothta ths protashs twn synadelfwn ths N. D. - ginetai anafora kai egkaleitai h kybernhsh, giati den exei proxwrhsei sth synach twn legomenwn symbasewn paraxwrhshs me toys thleoptikoys staqmoys, prokeimenoy na leitoyrgoyn nomimws. Prepei na sas pw oti to kaqestws ths symbashs paraxwrhshs se Mesa Enhmerwshs problepetai apo to N. 1866/89. H N. D. otan kybernhse mexri to 1993, oydepote ypegrace estw kai mia symbash paraxwrhshs. Den efarmose, dhladh, to nomo poy h idia eixe chfisei. To kaqestws twn symbasewn paraxwrhshs katarghqhke me to N. 2328/95. Dhladh, oi synadelfoi ths N. D. mas zhtoyn na qesoyme se efarmogh mia diatajh, h opoia exei katarghqei, den isxyei.

Telikws, katalhgw sto symperasma oti sthn agwnia toys na ejasfalisoyn thn paroysia toy kommatos toys sta dhmosia pragmata, me kaqe tropo, katafeygoyn se tetoies protaseis, oi opoies einai proxeires kai atekmhriwtes. Ayto apodeiknyei, epishs, oti den exoyn qeseis gia ta megala qemata poy apasxoloyn th xwra, doqentos oti h protash nomoy, se polla shmeia ths, sta perissotera, epanalambanei me allo tropo diatajeis kai ryqmiseis poy analytika problepontai sto arqro 30 toy isxyontos nomoy, o opoios efarmosthke gia prwth fora, stis prohgoymenes eqnikes ekloges.

Epifylassomai na epanelqw, giati pisteyw oti oi synadelfoi ths N. D. qa kanoyn ta dika toys sxolia. Qa hqela, omws, na sxoliasoyn epi twn sygkekrimenwn qematwn, ta opoia exw qesei me thn apanthsh moy kai orismena apo ta opoia epanelaba shmera, kai na mh genikologoyn kai aoristologoyn. Na einai poly sygkekrimenoi.

Ayta apo thn pleyra moy. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

SOYRMELH: Exw mia seira erwthsewn na qesw. To ena, einai gi` ayth thn egkatastash prosfygwn sth notio Albania. Pote egine ayto to diabhma ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs ston ekproswpo toy OASE;

REPPAS: Exei ginei, edw kai arketes hmeres, peripoy edw kai deka hmeres, apo tote poy perihlqe se gnwsh mas oti oi yphresies ths albanikhs kybernhshs exoyn proteinei kapoio tetoio sxedio.

SOYRMELH: Einai meta tis diabebaiwseis poy eixe parei o k. Shmiths apo toys Albanoys epishmoys;

REPPAS: Asfalws, meta.

SOYRMELH: H deyterh erwthsh einai gia to epeisodio poy egine, xqes, me toys Giatroys toy Kosmoy. Ti akribws egine; Kai h trith erwthsh, sxetika me thn episkech toy k. Papoylia sto Beligradi. Shmera, o Typos grafei oti yparxei ena mhnyma toy k. Srenter.

REPPAS: Oson afora thn episkech toy k. Papoylia, eipa kai epanalambanw, oti entassetai stis prwtoboylies poy exoyn analhfqei apo polles pleyres, prokeimenoy na epidiwxqei mia politikh, diplwmatikh kai eirhnikh lysh sto Kossyfopedio. O k. Papoylias metaferei tis qeseis ths Elladas. Oi qeseis ths Elladas, gnwrizete, oti sympiptoyn me ta shmeia ekeina, ta opoia, sto plaisio ths prwtoboylias ths, aneptyje kai h kybernhsh ths Germanias, ws proedreyoysa xwra ths E. E. Ta shmeia ayta apoteloyn thn atzenta epi ths opoias o k. Papoylias qa anaptyjei kai tis dikes toy skeceis.

SOYRMELH: Qa syzhthsei kai gia toys Aystraloys;

REPPAS: Sas eipa poia einai ta shmeia. Einai ta pente shmeia poy perilambanontai sthn protash ths germanikhs proedrias. Epishs, o k. Papoylias qa metaferei skeceis kai idees poy exoyn anaptyxqei apo thn Ellada kai alles xwres. Ayto poy einai bebaio einai oti h kateyqynsh ths dikhs toy parembashs enisxyei thn prospaqeia poy ginetai, prokeimenoy mesw ths politikhs odoy, na breqei lysh sthn krish sto Kossyfopedio. Oson afora to xqesino qlibero epeisodio, eytyxws den eixame qymata. Prepei na shmeiwsw oti, enw se oles tis periptwseis, estw kai meta apo pareleysh wrwn, meta apo ereynes kai elegxoys, to NATO analambanei thn eyqynh aytwn twn energeiwn, den exei ginei kati analogo sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh. O k. Papandreoy epikoinwnhse dyo fores me to Geniko Grammatea toy NATO. O k. Solana ton diabebaiwse oti oi elegxoi poy exoyn diejaxqei apo stratiwtikoys synergates toy, ton odhgoyn sto symperasma oti to NATO den exei sxesh me ayto to symban. Emeis qeloyme na synexistoyn oi ereynes, wste na exoyme mia plhrh gnwsh, gia to pws synebh ayto.

SOYRMELH: Ti ennoeite;

REPPAS: Thn epiqesh ayth. Emeis eixame enhmerwsei. Fainetai oti h ajiologhsh ths enhmerwshs ayths, o ryqmos h o xronos ths ajiologhshs htan tetoios, wste den apetrece ayto to symban. Ayto, efoson apodeixqei oti to NATO eixe emplokh se ayto to epeisodio. Giati -epanalambanw- mexri twra to NATO den exei topoqethqei, etsi wste, na anagnwrizei dikh toy emplokh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate sthn arxh oti qa paei sta Skopia mia mikrh omada twn Enoplwn Dynamewn. Ti dynamh einai ayth;

REPPAS: Qa einai arketa ligoteroi apo 50 andres kai qa exoyn kai aytoi thn analogh ejeidikeysh kai empeiria, prokeimenoy na symbaloyn se ayto to poly sygkekrimeno ergo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Aytoi poy phgainoyn sta Skopia kai sthn Albania gia na bohqhsoyn sthn egkatastash twn prosfygwn, epistrefoyn h menoyn ekei meta;

REPPAS: Asfalws, epistrefoyn. Meta apo mia periodo mporei na ananewnetai to proswpiko, analoga me ta problhmata poy antimetwpizoyn. Ola ayta antimetwpizontai apo toys epikefalhs twn omadwn, se synennohsh me tis kentrikes yphresies.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Exoyn epistrecei, dhladh, oi alloi poy exoyn paei sthn Albania kai sta Skopia;

REPPAS: Mporei na exoyn ginei kapoies allages sth synqesh toy proswpikoy, alla, ayto poy exei shmasia, einai toyto: Oti h Ellada einai paroysa me tis dikes ths dynameis, me tis dikes ths stratiwtikes monades, prokeimenoy na symbalei sthn kalyterh antimetwpish twn problhmatwn, poy exoyn prokycei, oson afora thn paroxh anqrwpistikhs bohqeias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mexri twra, posoi Ellhnes stratiwtes einai sta Skopia kai sthn Albania, jerete;

REPPAS: Sthn Albania -epeidh exoyme dhmioyrghsei se tria shmeia kataylismoys- mazi me thn arxikh dynamh ths ELDAL, opws exei onomastei, o ariqmos toys einai peripoy 500 andres. Sta Skopia opoy twra gia prwth fora qa metaboyn andres twn Enoplwn Dynamewn, prokeimenoy na dhmioyrghsoyn aytoys toys kataylismoys, sas eipa oti o ariqmos den prepei na jeperna toys 50 andres. Alloi den yparxoyn.

MIXAHL: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw sxetika me to epeisodio gia thn anqrwpistikh bohqeia me toys Giatroys toy Kosmoy. Gia thn ellhnikh kybernhsh einai dedomeno ayto to epeisodio; Giati sas to lew ayto. Dioti yphrxan martyries oti den egine epiqesh, h telos pantwn, den htan emfanhs o tropos ths epiqeshs. Eseis exete kanei ereyna; Apo thn ereyna exei diapistwqei oti exei ginei;

REPPAS: Emeis exoyme tis plhrofories oti se apostash ekatontadwn metrwn erifqhsan bombes me kindyno na proklhqei atyxhma se aytoys poy symmeteixan sthn anqrwpistikh apostolh. Oydeis exei analabei thn eyqynh gi ayth thn energeia, ws na einai aytos o opoios eixe thn prwtoboylia mias tetoias energeias. To oti yphrje ayth h rich bombwn se mia sxetikh apostash epibebaiwnetai apo toys parontes. Den exoyme allh plhroforia. Apo thn allh, epishmainw oti einai h prwth fora poy to NATO den exei dexqei pws htan epiqesh dikwn toy dynamewn, opws exei kanei se alles periptwseis sto parelqon.

MIXAHL: Xwris na amfisbhtw oti mporei na to exei kanei to NATO, sas rwthsa ean h Ellada meta apo dikh ths ereyna epibebaiwnei ta gegonota.

REPPAS: H Ellada, h kybernhsh mas exei stenh synergasia me tis mh kybernhtikes organwseis. Eipame, allwste, oti h prowqhsh ths anqrwpistikhs bohqeias sto Kossyfopedio den ginetai apo kratikes kybernhtikes yphresies. Ginetai, bebaiws, ypo thn epopteia, me th bohqeia ths kybernhshs, alla apo mh kybernhtikes organwseis. Kai me tis mh kybernhtikes organwseis exoyme poly kalh epafh. Aytes tis plhrofories exoyme. Parakalw ean exete kapoia allh tekmhriwmenh ekdoxh na thn akoysoyme, einai sebasth kai ayth. Egw sas eipa poies energeies kanoyme emeis. Apo ekei kai pera paramenei anoikto to qema, einai se ekkremothta akomh, to poios htan aytos, o opoios eyqynetai gi ayto to symban. Eseis qetete qema, ean yparxei ayto to symban. Emeis exoyme plhrofories apo toys parontes sthn eyryterh perioxh, oti pragmati eixame ayth th rich bombwn. Ola ta alla pisteyw oti tis epomenes hmeres, epeidh kai emeis epimenoyme kai zhtoyme na yparxei plhrhs elegxos olwn twn stoixeiwn, isws einai pio diafwtistika. Ayta gnwrizoyme twra.

BITSENTZOY: Hqela na rwthsw poia einai h phgh sas gia tis plhrofories poy exete. Giati ap' oti akoysa oi Skopianoi sofer toy konboi den dhlwsan kati sxetiko, para mono, o epikefalhs giatros k. Nikolaoy.

REPPAS: Se kamia periptwsh to NATO den exei dexqei oti aytoi oi opoioi eplhghsan, eplhghsan epeidh stoxeyse aytoys to NATO. Apla, anagnwrise oti ekane kapoia laqh, oti yphrjan kapoies astoxies. Sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh den exei dexqei pws ayth htan dikh toy energeia. Twra, eseis lete oti den exei yparjei to symban h kapoioi isxyrizontai kati tetoio. Einai kati to opoio -epanalambanw- apotelei kai ayto antikeimeno ths ereynas. Tis epomenes hmeres qa gnwrizoyme perissotera. Alla, exoyme tis plhrofories apo aytoys oi opoioi einai parontes sthn perioxh, drasthriopoioyntai, prosferoyn anqrwpistikh bohqeia kai qewrhsan oti glytwsan thn teleytaia stigmh kai ws ek qaymatos. Einai sebasth h martyria toys, den prepei na thn parakamcoyme.

BITSENTZOY: Yparxei kapoio qema se sxesh me th synennohsh aytwn twn anqrwpwn me to GEEQA, oti genika eixan wra anaxwrhshs diaforetikh apo ayth, thn opoia, en telei, epelejan me dikh toys eyqynh;

REPPAS: Ta stoixeia apestalhsan. Epeidh, omws, eixame arketes allages, logw elegxwn kai kaqysterhsewn se diaforoys synoriakoys staqmoys, antilambaneste oti oi synqhkes den einai idanikes sthn eyryterh perioxh. Ayto mporei na odhghse se mia sygxysh, wste ta stoixeia ayta na mhn ajiologhqoyn egkairws kai eparkws. Ayta ola exoyn, bebaiws, ajia efoson apodeixqei oti h energeia ayth proerxetai apo to NATO. Giati an ayto den apodeixqei den exei shmasia na syzhtoyme peri ths rohs ths plhroforhshs pros to NATO h en pash periptwsei ayto einai ena teleiws diaforetiko qema.

FASOYLAS: Stis 12 xqes to meshmeri, poy jekinhse to konboi me proorismo thn Pristina, epikoinwnhse me to GEEQA gia na labei to "prasino fws"; Kai rwtaw kat' arxhn esas gi' ayto to qema, giati milwntas xqes me ton ekproswpo toy GEEQA moy eipe oti "stis 12 to meshmeri den epikoinwnhsan mazi mas kai efygan me dikh toys eyqynh".

REPPAS: Den gnwrizan ta melh ayths ths mh kybernhtikhs organwshs ti qa antimetwpisoyn sto dromologio toys. Oi allages oi opoies ephlqan, ephlqan xwris th dikh toys eyqynh. Den mporoysan na gnwrizoyn apo prin tis allages poy eprokeito na symboyn. H epikoinwnia einai oso ginetai pio pyknh kai oysiastikh kai pisteyoyme oti einai kalh epikoinwnia, wste na ejyphreteitai o basikos skopos poy einai h paroxh anqrwpistikhs bohqeias. Oles oi alles leptomereies exoyn mikroterh ajia ayth thn wra. Poly perissotero -epanalambanw- poy menei na dieykrinistei pws egine ayth h energeia, poqen h energeia ayth kai me poio stoxo.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Parallhla, h kybernhsh exei kapoia epikoinwnia me tis gioygkoslabikes arxes, prokeimenoy na maqei, an piqanon yphrxe omada toy UCEKA sthn perioxh; Isws na prohlqe apo ekei o olmos, symfwna me ayta poy grafontai. Kai deyteron, pote perimenete to NATO na topoqethqei epishma;

REPPAS: Emeis exoyme epikoinwnia. Oi diayloi einai synexws anoixtoi me thn kybernhsh ths Gioygkoslabias. O presbhs mas sth geitonikh xwra eixe aytes tis plhrofories, tis opoies, se genikes grammes, metefera sth syzhthsh mas. Den exei analabei kaneis thn eyqynh. Den exei dhlwsei kaneis oti dikh toy energeia htan h rich aytwn twn bombwn. Apo kei kai pera, bebaiws, exoyn diatypwqei diafores ekdoxes. Qa elega, omws, oti den exoyn thn analogh tekmhriwsh, wste na ginoyn dektes. Akoygontai oles me prosoxh. Pisteyw oi epomenes hmeres, me thn oloklhrwsh ths diadikasias twn ereynwn, qa mas diafwtisoyn. Den yparxei kapoio xroniko orio stoys ekproswpoys toy NATO na anakoinwsoyn an qa dexqoyn oti ekeinoi proebhsan s' ayth thn energeia. Sas eipa oti to NATO, me ton pio egkyro kai epishmo tropo, mesw toy idioy toy Genikoy Grammatea toy Organismoy k. Solana, diabebaiwse ton Ellhna Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn oti ta stoixeia ta opoia diaqetei, odhgoyn se apokleismo ths ekdoxhs oti brisketai pisw apo ayth thn epiqesh.

BITALHS: Me aformh kai to xqesino -opws to xarakthrisate kai eseis- qlibero gegonos, exei enhmerwqei h kybernhsh epishmws an apostoles anqrwpistikhs bohqeias poy proerxontai apo thn Ellada kindyneysan sth diadromh toys pros to Kossyfopedio apo epixeirhseis natoikwn aeroskafwn;

REPPAS: Den exoyme kapoia allh enhmerwsh. Ta problhmata ta opoia synantoyn oi apostoles aytes einai peripoy anamenomena. Einai, qa elega, problhmata ta opoia prokyptoyn apo tis idiazoyses synqhkes poy epikratoyn sthn perioxh. Den exoyn anaferqei peristatika kata ta opoia eginan stoxos kapoiwn epiqesewn apo opoiondhpote, melh tetoiwn apostolwn.

BITALHS: Den milhsa gia epiqeseis...

REPPAS: Den exoyme kapoia tetoia plhroforhsh.

BITALHS:... an exoyn kindyneysei kai me alloys tropoys. An gia paradeigma, exei mpei ellhniko konboi se stoxastro natoikwn aeroskafwn kai apetraph thn teleytaia stigmh h epiqesh.

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw kati tetoio.

BITALHS: Einai omalh h roh ths synennohshs twn ellhnikwn arxwn me to NATO, oson afora th dieleysh anqrwpistikhs bohqeias sth Gioygkoslabia; Eipate prohgoymenws oti fainetai oti yparxei enas periergos ryqmos ajiologhshs plhroforiwn. Stis prohgoymenes periptwseis htan omalos aytos o ryqmos ajiologhshs twn plhroforiwn sto NATO apo tis plhrofories poy pairnoyme emeis gia anqrwpistikh bohqeia;

REPPAS: Kai edw mporei na einai poly swstos o ryqmos, an telika apodeixqei oti to NATO den exei kamia sxesh me to symban ayto. An to NATO dexqei oti pragmati exei symmetoxh s' ayth thn energeia, tote mporoyme na odhghqoyme s' ayto to symperasma, giati prepei kapoios logos na yparxei, kapoia aitia na yparxei gia na symbei ayto. Kai h aitia thn opoia mporei na anazhthsei kaneis, den einai allh, apo th dysleitoyrgia h thn kakh synennohsh. Alla ayto to opoio exei shmasia, einai toyto kai menw s' ayto: Oti oydeis exei epishmws dexqei oti einai aytos o opoios eyqynetai gi' ayth thn energeia.

PODHMATA: Qelw na epimeinw sthn erwthsh toy k. Bitalh, giati yparxoyn kai alles apostoles anqrwpistikhs bohqeias. Ara, exei mia shmasia epipleon, anejarthtws an eyqynetai gia th sygkekrimenh energeia to NATO h oxi. Ej oswn gnwrizw, to NATO exei zhthsei na enhmerwnetai treis meres prin gia ta akribh stoixeia kai to xrono ths dieleyshs twn konboi, aytwn poy metaferoyn anqrwpistikh bohqeia pros to Kossyfopedio. Sthn prokeimenh periptwsh, sth xqesinh apostolh, thrhqhke ayth h diadikasia apo thn pleyra mas; Dhladh yphrje enhmerwsh treis meres prin h enhmerwqhke xqes to NATO gia thn apostolh ths sygkekrimenhs anqrwpistikhs bohqeias;

REPPAS: Apo tis 30 Aprilioy, poy oi Giatroi toy Kosmoy apesteilan, gia prwth fora, ta sxetika stoixeia gia thn kinhsh thn opoia qa kanoyn, prokeimenoy na prowqhsoyn anqrwpistikh bohqeia, oi armodies yphresies toy kratoys exoyn kinhqei symfwna me ta osa problepontai, me tropo analogo, opws kai se prohgoymenes periptwseis, prokeimenoy na apofygoyme ena qlibero endexomeno. Ayto egine kai sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh. Kinhqhkan me thn analogh synepeia. Gi' ayto akribws egine kai h diamartyria ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, gia thn periptwsh ekeinh poy dynameis toy NATO einai aytes oi opoies eyqynontai gia to symban. Alla ayto einai kati to opoio den exei fanei ayth thn wra. Den to exei dexqei toylaxiston, to NATO.

SOYRMELH: Epeidh milhsate gia bombes, to erwthma einai, ejetasate to endexomeno oi bombes na mhn htan apo panw; Na einai, dhladh qema twn serbikwn dynamewn, endexomenws gia kapoia ekkaqarish. Ayto ejetasthke; Giati den to exw dei apo poyqena.

REPPAS: Martyres yparxoyn apo toys anqrwpoys poy briskontan se ekeinh thn perioxh.

SOYRMELH: Nai, alla kai aytoi den einai se qesh... Rwthsa alla den hjeran an hrqan apo panw h apo dipla.

REPPAS: H katastash sthn opoia perihlqan, antilambaneste oti den toys epetrepe na einai ekeinh th stigmh toso nhfalioi, wste na exoyn mia dynatothta analyshs kai ejagwghs symperasmatos me ton kalytero dynato tropo. Apo thn allh, epanalambanw, oti apo th dikh mas pleyra ginetai prospaqeia mesw twn ereynwn poy synexizontai na lamcei h alhqeia, na gnwrizoyme telikws ti exei ginei. Alla eimaste s' ayto to shmeio twra. Den gnwrizoyme kati parapanw.

SOYRMELH: Kai mia kai moy dwsate to logo, na prosqesw, aytos o kataylismos poy ftiaxnetai sto Kotobo, posoys prosfyges qa filojenhsei;

REPPAS: Ayto qa syzhthqei me thn kybernhsh twn Skopiwn. En pash periptwsei, qa filojenhsei ena ikano ariqmo prosfygwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia to asfalistiko qelw na rwthsw: Eipate oti den apasxolei twra thn kybernhsh ayto to qema;

REPPAS: Akribws.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, mporei argotera na thn apasxolhsei;

REPPAS: Sas eipa, den apasxolei thn kybernhsh twra. H kybernhsh den kanei kapoia anakoinwsh oti qa asxolhqei me to qema meta.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Meta tis ekloges, dhladh mporei na asxolhqei;

REPPAS: Xairomai poy lete oti h kybernhsh meta tis ekloges qa einai kybernhsh toy PASOK.

Sas eyxaristw.

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