Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-05-04

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 4 Maioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KARGOYDH: Qa hqela na rwthsw ean h kybernhsh exei enhmerwqei gia thn prwtoboylia toy k. Pronti, na ginei dieqnhs diaskech gia thn katastash sth Gioygkoslabia.

REPPAS: O k. Pronti eprokeito na milhsei, shmera, sto Eyrwpaiko Koinoboylio. Exei diatypwsei, pragmati, mia idea gia th diorganwsh dieqnoys diaskechs, oson afora ta Balkania kai thn anasygkrothsh toys, meta thn krish poy einai se ejelijh. H qesh, h prwtoboylia ayth einai qetikh kai mas briskei symfwnoys. Allwste, einai symplhrwmatikh analogwn prwtoboyliwn, sxediwn h skecewn poy exoyn diatypwsei alloi, metajy twn opoiwn ki emeis. Prepei na sas pw oti o Prwqypoyrgos exei epikoinwnhsei me ton k. Pronti, aytes tis hmeres kai exoyn antallajei apoceis kai skeceis gia qemata poy sxetizontai me thn antimetwpish ths krishs sto Kossyfopedio kai twn synepeiwn ayths ths krishs. Epanalambanw, einai mia qetikh prwtoboylia.

KYRIAKIDOY: Gi` ayto to qema ths metaforas Kossobarwn prosfygwn, sth Qessalonikh, gia thn prowqhsh toys se alles xwres, exete kati newtero na mas peite, pote qa erqoyn kai posoi einai;

REPPAS: Exoyme pei, ej arxhs, oti h Qessalonikh qa xrhsimopoihqei ws endiamesos staqmos prowqhshs ariqmoy prosfygwn se alles xwres, poy exoyn dexqei na toys filojenhsoyn. Mexri na fqasoyn, omws, ston teliko proorismo toys, prepei na perasoyn apo diafores perioxes, kyriws apo th Qessalonikh, h opoia exei thn katallhlh ypodomh. O ariqmos aytos den einai sygkekrimenos. Epanalambanw, gia na mhn yparxei paranohsh, oti h Qessalonikh xrhsimopoieitai ws xwros transit, as xrhsimopoihsw ayth thn ekfrash. Den paramenoyn sth Qessalonikh, oyte prokeitai na egkatastaqoyn sthn eyryterh perioxh ths Qessalonikhs. Pernoyn apo th Qessalonikh, mono kai mono gia na prowqhqoyn ston teliko proorismo toys. Ayto einai safes.

KYRIAKIDOY: Pote kai posoi einai aytoi;

REPPAS: Sygkekrimeno ariqmo den gnwrizw, giati ayto ejartatai apo ton ariqmo prosfygwn poy qa dexqei kaqe xwra, telikws, na filojenhsei. Mporw na sas pw, omws, oti kata periodoys pernoyn apo th Qessalonikh kapoies xiliades prosfygwn, poy prowqoyntai stis xwres poy exoyn dexqei na toys filojenhsoyn.

KWSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, meta apo dyo mhnes hremias sto Aigaio, xqes, toyrkika polemika aeroskafh parabiasan ton enaerio xwro ths Elladas. Pws to sxoliazete;

REPPAS: H Agkyra synexizei ayth thn taktikh twn proklhsewn, h opoia einai gia thn idia adiejodh. Prepei na to antilhfqei. Eixame ayth th stratiwtikh drasthriothta h opoia, oso ki an einai periorismenh, pantws, einai apokalyptikh twn pragmatikwn proqesewn ths Toyrkias. Ta toyrkika aeroplana anaxaitisthkan apo ellhnika maxhtika, me apotelesmatiko kai ameso tropo. Ginontai oles oi endedeigmenes energeies. Qa prepei na antilhfqei h Toyrkia oti mia tetoia symperifora, kaqe allo, para th bohqaei na epityxei toys stoxoys poy exei qesei, giati thn emfanizei me ena proswpo tarajia. Pisteyw oti epibarynei akomh perissotero th qesh ths. Poly perissotero, enocei twn filodojwn sxediwn poy exei dhlwsei oti exei -kai qelei na pragmatopoihsei- gia thn proseggish ths me thn Eyrwph.

RAPITOY: Shmera, genika ston Typo, diafainetai mia lysh toy diplwmatikoy adiejodoy kai polloi milane oti ews to telos toy mhna qa yparjei lysh. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw ean h kybernhsh symmerizetai ayth thn apoch h qewrei oti prokeitai gia mia kinhsh efhsyxasmoy ths koinhs gnwmhs, enocei twn eyrweklogwn;

REPPAS: Prepei na pw oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh, ek twn prwtwn kai apo thn prwth stigmh, elabe qesh yper ths anagkhs na prowqhqei h anazhthsh lyshs sto Kossyfopedio me eirhnika, politika kai diplwmatika mesa. Emeis pisteyoyme oti oso perna o kairos, me th symbolh kai allwn paragontwn, enisxyetai h pleyra ekeinh, h opoia exei taxqei ej arxhs yper ths politikhs lyshs ths krishs sto Kossyfopedio. Ayto einai mia poly qetikh ejelijh. Oi endeijeis, stis opoies anaferqhkate, yparxoyn. Apo thn allh pleyra, oydeis einai eykolo, ayth thn wra, na ektimhsei pote, me xronologikh akribeia, qa termatistei h krish sto Kossyfopedio. Pisteyoyme ayto na ginei, to syntomotero dynato. Yparxoyn oi proypoqeseis. Arketa qrhnhsame. Nomizw oti einai h wra ths lyshs kai toy termatismoy ths krishs, prokeimenoy na analaboyme prwtoboylies gia thn anasygkrothsh ths eyryterhs perioxhs. To oti ginetai apo polles pleyres olo kai pio megalh anafora sthn anagkh politikhs lyshs, einai poly qetiko. Opws, epishs, to oti olo kai perissotero dieqneis paragontes anaferontai sthn anagkh diaskecewn me stoxo thn anasygkrothsh twn Balkaniwn, thn antimetwpish, synolikws, twn problhmatwn twn xwrwn ths notioanatolikhs Eyrwphs kai ayto einai poly qetiko. As elpisoyme oti oi endeijeis aytes, gia tis opoies milhsate, na exoyn periexomeno kai na mas feroyn poly konta, to syntomotero dynato, sth lysh ths krishs.

PAYLOPOYLOS: Stis teleytaies dhmoskophseis poy dhmosieyontai, katagrafetai mia anodos ths dhmotikothtas ths kybernhshs kai toy Prwqypoyrgoy proswpika. Wstoso h diafora toy kybernwntos kommatos me th N. D., paramenei stis 5 kai kati monades. Anhsyxei thn kybernhsh oti endexomenws mexri tis eyrwekloges, mia kai paramenei ligos xronos, den qa mporesei, den qa prolabei na kalycei th diafora ayth;

REPPAS: Prwta ap' ola eseis qewreite dedomeno oti yparxei ayth h diafora, epeidh th diafora ayth anadeiknyoyn ta apotelesmata kapoiwn metrhsewn. Exoyme pei -kai den prepei na yparxei paranohsh- oti yparxei diafora metajy twn metrhsewn, twn dhmoskophsewn kai ths ekloghs sthn kalph me thn chfo twn politwn. Emeis exoyme epilejei th nikh sthn eklogikh kalph. Afhnoyme stoys alloys th xara, thn ikanopoihsh apo ta apotelesmata twn dhmoskophsewn. Asfalws einai endeiktikes aytes oi metrhseis kai den mporei na tis agnohsei kaneis. Alla den prepei kai na tis anagagei se eklogiko apotelesma, giati tote kanei poly megalo laqos. H kybernhsh, exw pei kat' epanalhch, einai ayth h opoia krinetai apo to ergo ths. Oloi oi alloi krinontai mono apo toys logoys toys, apo tis qeseis, dhladh, tis opoies anaptyssei h antipoliteysh kai ta kommata ths. Emeis pisteyoyme oti kaqws qa pernaei o kairos kai qa erxetai h wra twn eqnikwn eklogwn, oi Ellhnes polites poy antilambanontai to poso shmantiko einai to ergo poy exei kanei h kybernhsh, olo kai perissotero qa sthrizoyn ayto to ergo kai telikws me thn chfo toys qa egkrinoyn, gia mia nea qhteia, thn kybernhsh ypo to shmerino Prwqypoyrgo. Ayth einai h dikh mas epidiwjh kai kalw oloys toys politikoys antipaloys na anamenoyn ta apotelesmata ths kalphs, prokeimenoy na qriambologhsoyn. Dioti blepw oti telikws, enw to PASOK edw kai polla xronia katorqwnei me thn chfo toy ellhnikoy laoy na kyberna, exoyme endiamesoys panhgyrismoys kai qriambologies ap' oloys toys alloys, oi opoioi synhqws briskontai sthn antipoliteysh. Ayto to pragma mono sthn Ellada to synantaei kaneis. Qa elega, loipon, na anamenoyn oloi ta apotelesmata ths kalphs. Emeis eimaste aisiodojoi giati exoyme empistosynh sthn krish toy ellhnikoy laoy.

KYRIAKIDOY: Exei skopo h kybernhsh na parei kapoia metra sxetika me ta perioysiaka stoixeia toy k. Milosebits -opws dhmosieyontai se ellhnikes efhmerides- symfwna me tis ypoxrewseis ths ws melos ths E. E., opws exei apofasistei gia to qema ayto;

REPPAS: Prwta ap' ola den exei lhfqei apofash gia tetoio qema, toylaxiston mexri twra. Kai deyteron ta qemata poy aforoyn perioysiaka stoixeia jenwn politwn den exoyn apasxolhsei thn kybernhsh h den asxoloyntai kybernhtikoi paragontes me ta qemata ayta. Prepei, de, na pw oti meta apo ereyna poy egine, kapoies plhrofories poy exw martyroyn oti ena akinhto toy opoioy h fwtografia paroysiasthke se ellhnikh efhmerida tis prohgoymenes hmeres, den fainetai na anhkei ston k. Milosebits. Anhkei se kapoion allo o opoios exei diaforetiko onoma. Ola ayta omws, epanalambanw, einai pragmata ta opoia den apasxoloyn thn kybernhsh, dioti den empiptoyn stis armodiothtes ths, poios katexei sthn Ellada sygkekrimena perioysiaka stoixeia, akinhta h alla. Me ayta ta qemata asxoloyntai oi armodies kratikes yphresies.

MOYRTZHS: Ellhnas; Onoma Ellhna h jenoy;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw an einai onoma Ellhna polith. Mporw na to plhroforhqw kai ayto, alla ayto poy prokyptei einai oti den anhkei ston k. Milosebits. Den einai, pantws ergo ths kybernhshs ayto kai prepei na einai safes.

GARGALAKOS: Einai stis skeceis toy Prwqypoyrgoy na proteinei gia th qesh toy Epitropoy ton k. Arsenh;

REPPAS: O k. Arsenhs gnwrizete oti exei analabei ena poly shmantiko ergo: Na oikodomhsei thn ekpaideytikh metarryqmish. Einai poly shmantiko to ergo ayto. Parakalw mhn emplekete to onoma toy giati h kybernhsh xreiazetai ton k. Arsenh prokeimenoy s' ayto ton tomea na epityxoyme to aristo apotelesma.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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