Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-04-23

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 23 Aprilioy 1999

Geia sas.

Na jekinhsoyme th syzhthsh mas me ta qemata poy aforoyn thn episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai ths ellhnikhs antiproswpeias stis HPA.

Exete enhmerwqei apo to reportaz, gia tis xqesines kinhseis kai paroysies toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai ths ellhnikhs antiproswpeias. Qelw na epishmanw edw thn paroysiash -apo ola ta bhmata apo ta opoia milhsan o Prwqypoyrgos kai oi Ellhnes ypoyrgoi- twn ellhnikwn qesewn me kaqarothta, safhneia kai plhrothta. Kai den to lew me thn ennoia twn dynatothtwn toys, oi opoies einai dedomenes. To lew me thn ennoia ths plhrothtas twn qesewn mas, toso gia ta qemata ths ejwterikhs mas politikhs oso kai gia ta alla qemata ellhnikoy endiaferontos, gia tis ejelijeis sth xwra mas, gia to rolo ths sthn perioxh. Antilambanomai apolytws oti, mesa sto ryqmo ths dhmosiografikhs doyleias, sto epipedo toy kaqhmerinoy reportaz ayta ola paroysiazontai se perilhch, sta kyria shmeia toys. Qa parakaloysa, loipon, na skycete ligo panw sta keimena ayta, na ta janadeite, giati pisteyw oti qa einai xrhsima kai gia tis analyseis kai gia th doyleia sas kai bebaiws gia thn enhmerwsh -mesa apo ta mesa enhmerwshs opoy ergazeste- toy ellhnikoy laoy. Parakalw, loipon, na janadeite ayta ta keimena.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Xqes, sto Beligradi egine kapoia symfwnia toy k. Milosebits me ton k. Tsernomirntin poy eprokeito na prowqhqei. Jafnika, omws, xtyphsan to kentro ths thleorashs me qymata anqrwpoys toy Typoy. Exete na kanete kapoio sxolio;

AQANASAKHS: To sxolio mas stis periptwseis aytes, opws kai se oles tis periptwseis twn bombardismwn, poly perissotero otan exoyme kai qymata amaxoys, einai h epishmansh ths tragikothtas olwn aytwn twn ejelijewn kai ths anagkhs na proxwrhsoyn oi diadikasies gia politikh lysh. Na broyn dromo oi diplwmatikes prwtoboylies kai na kataferoyme na odhghqoyme se lysh ayths ths krishs. Gnwrizete th qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs oti ta stratiwtika mesa monon, den prokeitai na odhghsoyn se kamia lysh. Yparxei anagkh gia th diplwmatia kai gia thn politikh lysh toy problhmatos. Na shmeiwsw -epeidh to syndyasate me thn episkech Tsernomirntin- oti hdh apo xqes to brady, (jhmerwmata wra Elladas) o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. G. Papandreoy, se synenteyjh toy sto CNN sthn ekpomph toy Lari Kingk, xarakthrise qetikh thn prwtoboylia toy Rwsoy prwhn Prwqypoyrgoy. Prosqese, bebaiws, oti h dieqnhs dynamh poy prepei na paei sto Kossobo gia thn efarmogh ths opoias symfwnias, prepei na einai mia enoplh dynamh, opws problepoyn oi proypoqeseis poy exoyn teqei, oytws wste na mporei na diasfalistei h asfaleia sthn perioxh. Den einai dieykrinismena ola ta shmeia ths symfwnias Tsernomirntin - Milosebits, opws paroysiasthke. O k. Tsernomirntin -opws blepw apo ta praktoreia eidhsewn- kineitai gia na enhmerwsei. O idios exei dhlwsei oti apaiteitai megalyterh proodos, eidika gia to eidos ths dieqnoys paroysias, kai oti to qema "poies xwres qa einai" prepei na einai antikeimeno peraiterw syzhthsewn. Elpizoyme oti ola ayta mporei na apotelesoyn ena prwto bhma to opoio na exei synexeia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kala einai ayta ta logia poy lete "qetikh prwtoboylia", alla synexizoyn omws na skotwnoyn. Den erxontai se antiqesh oi fonikes epidromes me tis prwtoboylies gia eirhnh; Mporei na ginei eirhnh otan phgainoyn kai skotwnoyn meta apo dyo wres;

AQANASAKHS: Gnwrizete oti yphrje mia syzhthsh apo thn arxh, sthn opoia oi men elegan na ypoxwrhsei o Milosebits, oi de elegan na stamathsoyn oi bombardismoi gia na yparjei h opoiadhpote syzhthsh. Kai gnwrizete oti h qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs htan na pame se mia lysh poy na problepei taytoxronh diadikasia apoxwrhshs twn dynamewn toy Milosebits apo thn perioxh kai diakoph twn bombardismwn. Einai qemata poy prepei na proxwrhsoyn. Prepei na breqei lysh. Mporei kai prepei na breqei politikh lysh. Apo thn allh pleyra exoyn teqei sygkekrimenes proypoqeseis gia mia tetoia lysh. Kai oi proypoqeseis aytes isxyoyn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, na breqei mia lysh me tis fonikes epidromes na synexizontai;

AQANASAKHS: Apanthsa, k. Stamatopoyle.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai dystyxws exoyme ypogracei kai emeis s' aytes.

AQANASAKHS: Apanthsa, k. Stamatopoyle. Kai gia to qema toy an h xwra mas mporoyse na askhsei "beto" h na ephreasei diaforetika ta pragmata, sas einai gnwstes oi qeseis twn politikwn dynamewn kai peran ths kybernhshs. Exoyn syzhthqei ayta eparkws, pisteyw. Kai oxi monon exoyn syzhthqei, alla pisteyw oti yparxei kai eyreia katanohsh apo ton ellhniko lao gia tis ypeyqynes qeseis ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H eyreia katanohsh apo poy bgainei; O ellhnikos laos kaqhmerina diamartyretai kai an exete dei kai ta gkalop oloi einai enantion ayths ths stratiwtikhs epembashs.

AQANASAKHS: Pisteyw oti exw dikio egw kai oxi eseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Tote, diabazoyme diaforetika.

AQANASAKHS: Sas parakalw. An exete erwthsh, na sas dwsw to logo.

MIXAHL: Meta tis 8wres-9wres synomilies toy k. Tsernomirntin sto Beligradi kai ta osa eginan, yphrje mia dhlwsh toy k. Klinton poy elege oti einai ena prwto qetiko bhma, mia prwth xaramada h kapws etsi. Omws, ligo argotera -isws jhmerwmata wra Ellados- yphrje deyterh dhlwsh mazi me ton k. Mpler, poy aporriptoyn ayth thn kinhsh Milosebits, (me h xwris eisagwgika, opws qelei to bazei o kaqenas). Qelw, loipon na rwthsw: h ellhnikh kybernhsh ektima oti h amesh aporrich tetoiwn kinhsewn symballei sto na dhmioyrghqei to plaisio, poy lete eseis, gia thn ejeyresh politikhs lyshs;

AQANASAKHS: S' aytes tis periptwseis xreiazontai arketes syzhthseis, dieykriniseis kai diplwmatikes kinhseis, an prokeitai na paei kaneis se mia symfwnia. Yparxei h prwth antidrash toy Proedroy Klinton, thn opoia eida kai egw, opws eidate kai eseis. Yphrje sth synexeia mia emplokh -an katalabainw kala apo ta eidhseografika praktoreia, giati den exw ayth thn wra allh dynatothta- gia to ean h dynamh poy apodexotan o k. Milosebits na paei sto Kossobo htan enoplh h aoplh dynamh parathrhtwn kai ara yphrjan deyteres dhlwseis. Yparxei ena shmerino, prwino thlegrafhma toy Interfaj to opoio emfanizei ton k. Tsernomirntin na leei oti o k. Milosebits exei symfwnhsei se stratiwtikh dynamh, ara -kata mia ermhneia- enoplh. Ola ayta, omws, einai sthn afethria toys. Ekfrazw thn eyxh na exoyn synexeia.

PETOYRH: H Aqhna einai diateqeimenh na symmetasxei s' ayth th eirhneytikh enoplh dynamh, efoson ayth paei kai an sto plaisio ayto h ellhnikh kybernhsh einai etoimh na analabei prwtoboylia wste na jeperastoyn oi opoies, endexomenes, epifylajeis toy k. Klinton kai toy Bretanoy Prwqypoyrgoy;

AQANASAKHS: To qema toy Kossobo kai twn ekei ejelijewn, qa syzhthqei sto epipedo ths Synodoy Koryfhs toy NATO, shmera kai ayrio. Sto plaisio, dhladh, twn programmatismenwn syzhthsewn. H ellhnikh kybernhsh exei paroysiasei thn prwtoboylia ths kai to plaisio twn qesewn ths. O Prwqypoyrgos paroysiase epaneilhmmena, tis qeseis aytes stis omilies kai tis synanthseis toy stis HPA. Einai profanes oti ayto qa kanei kai sto epipedo twn syzhthsewn ths Synodoy Koryfhs.

Se oti afora thn eirhneytikh dynamh, eixa topoqethqei xqes analytika. Den exw kati kainoyrgio. Efoson yparjei symfwnia, h Ellada mporei na metexei se kati tetoio. Na pw, omws, kati allo. Akoysa na metadidontai diafora pragmata gia "metakinhseis dynamewn", gia "epistrateyseis" klp. Kathgorhmatika lew oti den yparxei tipota tetoio, se kamia periptwsh.

Kai gia na epanelqw sthn prohgoymenh aporia toy k. Stamatopoyloy, (epeidh ton blepw etoimo na ypobalei erwthsh), pisteyw oti yparxei eyreia apodoxh twn qesewn, twn kinhsewn kai twn prwtoboyliwn ths kybernhshs, apo ton ellhniko lao. Kai pisteyw oti yparxei sthn oysia -den qa to elega apodoxh twn qesewn ths kybernhshs- koinh antilhch kai sto epipedo twn politikwn kommatwn. Qelw na shmeiwsw, ws katarxhn qetikes tis xqesines anakoinwseis ths N. D. ws pros to skelos poy symperilambanei anafora sthn ellhnikh prwtoboylia kai sth shmasia poy exei ws bash gia thn anaptyjh twn kinhsewn ths xwras, opws epishs kai gia to qema toy "empargko" toy petrelaioy. Ayta einai qetika. Pisteyw -to exw pei apo thn prwth stigmh- oti o kosmos apaitei apo ta ellhnika politika kommata, ypeyqynes topoqethseis, sobarothta, nhfaliothta, se mia periodo poy pragmatika einai dyskolh kai se ena qema poy einai polyploko. H kybernhsh qa synexisei na kineitai me gnwmona ta symferonta ths xwras kai mono.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Rwthsa an qa metexoyme, an qa pame emeis sto Kossobo, estw se eirhneytikh apostolh;

AQANASAKHS: Apo thn arxh exoyme pei oti mporei na yparjei ellhnikh symmetoxh, efoson yparjei symfwnia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Se allo qema. Xqes o k. Pagkalos, milwntas sthn Epitroph gia ton Otsalan, eipe oti o k. Shmiths gnwrize ta panta kai enekrine ta panta. Exete na kanete kapoio sxolio gi' ayto;

AQANASAKHS: Pws eiste bebaios oti o k. Pagkalos eipe ayta poy lete, apo mia aporrhth...

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ta diabazw shmera, se oles tis efhmerides.

AQANASAKHS: Me sygxwreite. Einai mia diadikasia kleisth. Ypoqetw oti qelete na moy peite, oti me bash kapoia sygkekrimena dhmosieymata apodidontai ston k. Pagkalo ayta poy eipate. Eisagete thn erwthsh sas legontas "o k. Pagkalos eipe ayta". Eisaste parwn; To lete apo to diko sas proswpiko reportaz, opote qa prepei na to ajiologhsw;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ap' ayta poy blepw se oles tis efhmerides shmera. Blepw to idio.

AQANASAKHS: Se oles, oxi!

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epesan qymata...

AQANASAKHS: Sas parakalw. Dexomai oti orismena dhmosieymata anaferoyn kapws etsi ayta poy eipate. Se oti afora genikws thn Epitroph ths Boylhs, den exw diaqesh na emplakw kai den exw kai th dynatothta na emplakw, apo th stigmh poy einai mia kleisth diadikasia. Qa prokycoyn ta porismata. Twra einai mia kleisth diadikasia kai mono akritomyqies h emmesh plhroforhsh mporei na yparxei mesa apo tis synedriaseis ths. Gnwrizw, omws, oti o k. Pagkalos den exei pei ta pragmata ayta etsi opws moy ta lete. O k. Pagkalos exei kanei dhmosia dhlwseis sto parelqon. Den pisteyw oti exei yparjei diafora sto sygkekrimeno qema, apo tis palaioteres dhlwseis toy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayta poy grafontai stis efhmerides metaferqhkan apo boyleytes poy symmetexoyn sthn Epitroph, apo ola ta kommata. Kai apo to PASOK boyleytes epibebaiwnoyn ayto, oti o k. Pagkalos eipe pws gnwrize o Prwqypoyrgos ta panta kai enekrine. Gi` ayto sas lew oloi oi boyleytes. Diaceydete oloys toys boyleytes;

AQANASAKHS: Eseis moy lete, edw, oti oloi oi boyleytes, me mia fwnh, eipan ta idia pragmata, opws ta grafei h efhmerida sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oxi mono h dikh moy. Kai alles.

AQANASAKHS: Kai orismenes alles, isws. Den einai panomoiotypa pantoy ta reportaz ean koitajete. Eimai ligo se dyskolh qesh, giati enw qa mporoysa analytika na topoqethqw, prospaqw na brw th qesmikh isorropia me thn aporrhth diadikasia twn ergasiwn ths Epitrophs ths Boylhs. Prwton, den einai etsi ayta. Kai deyteron, einai laqos na anakyklwqei mia syzhthsh, h opoia edw exei ginei se yperqetiko baqmo kai se idiaitera megalh ektash, gia na ejaxqoyn orismena asthrikta symperasmata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Einai dedomena.

AQANASAKHS: Den eiste melos ths Epitrophs, k. Stamatopoyle. An eklegeite kapote boyleyths -den gnwrizw ean to filodojeite- qa pate se kapoia antistoixh Epitroph kai qa symbalete sthn ekdosh toy tote porismatos. Giati speydete na bgalete porisma;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pantws, eseis ta diaceydete, apo oti katalabainw.

AQANASAKHS: Parapempw s` ayta poy sas eipa kai sthn olh syzhthsh me ton ypoyrgo Typoy k. Reppa, poy exei prohghqei, poy exei ginei edw sto parelqon, analytika.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw den rwtaw gia ekeina poy eixame pei edw. Rwtaw gia ta xqesina.

AQANASAKHS: Parapempw, loipon, kai gia ta xqesina kai gia ta tote stis syzhthseis aytes.

MIXAHL: Prin apo ligo, eipate oti einai qetikh, kat` arxhn, h stash ths N. D. me tis xqesines topoqethseis ths gia to qema ths Gioygkoslabias.

AQANASAKHS: Malista.

MIXAHL: Qelw, loipon, na sas rwthsw pws ektimate eseis thn prwtoboylia toy k. Karamanlh na synanthqei me toys arxhgoys twn allwn kommatwn, otan malista ta stelexh ths N. D. -kai endexomenws na to exete, hdh, diabasei- ektimoyn oti ayth h prwtoboylia einai ayto poy den kanei o Prwqypoyrgos. Na dei toys ekproswpoys twn kommatwn.

AQANASAKHS: O Prwqypoyrgos exei synanthqei me toys arxhgoys twn allwn kommatwn, toys exei enhmerwsei kai exei dhlwsei oti einai sth diaqesh toys na toys synanthsei jana, ean yparxei qema peraiterw enhmerwshs toys, an krinoyn kai oi idioi oti xreiazetai peraiterw enhmerwsh.

MIXAHL: Ayth einai h topoqethsh ths kybernhshs, poy jeroyme.

AQANASAKHS: Einai h pragmatikothta.

MIXAHL: Den to amfisbhtw. Ta stelexh ths N. D., omws, lene oti par` olh th qesh ayths ths kybernhshs, o k. Karamanlhs phre ayth thn prwtoboylia, giati epiballetai h kybernhsh kai o Prwqypoyrgos proswpika na meinei se mia synolikh, endexomenws, diaboyleysh me ta kommata kai synennohsh. Gi` ayto to logo pairnei ayth thn prwtoboylia, etsi lene aytoi, kai qelw, loipon, ena sxolio ths kybernhshs ep` ayths ths prwtoboylias.

AQANASAKHS: To mono poy mporw na kanw, ayth th stigmh, einai na perimenw na dw, meta tis synanthseis h meta thn prwth synanthsh, to plaisio poy qa paroysiastei epishmws apo th N. D. gia tis synanthseis aytes. Ean prokeitai -opws diabazw se kapoia dhmosieymata- gia prospaqeia sygkrothshs antikybernhtikoy metwpoy, ean prokeitai gia kati tetoio -kai milw ypoqetika, giati elpizw oti den qa einai ayto kai mporei na einai sto plaisio mias antallaghs apocewn metajy twn arxhgwn twn kommatwn ths Boylhs- tote, profanws, qa prokeitai gia ena akomh laqos. Poly perissotero poy qa einai, isws, h prwth fora poy qa epixeireitai na sygkrothqei ena metwpo, xwris na yparxei bash. Kai lew, xwris na yparxei bash, se oti afora toylaxiston th N. D., dioti epi ths oysias mporei na yparxoyn oriakes diaforopoihseis h mporei na yparxoyn diaforetikoi tonoi, alla den pisteyw oti yparxei diaforetikh politikh. Opws, epishs, qa hmoyn periergos na dw pws qa mporoysan na taytistoyn, as poyme, ean yphrxe tetoia piqanothta, oi qeseis ths N. D., oi qeseis ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, me tis qeseis toy Kommoynistikoy Kommatos, gia na sygkrothqei ena tetoio metwpo, ean -epanalambanw- osa dhmosieyontai h dioxeteyontai apodeixqei oti qa epixeirhqoyn.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Stis prosfates synanthseis poy eixe o Prwqypoyrgos me toys arxhgoys twn kommatwn yphrje diastash apocewn se oti afora to gioygkoslabiko;

AQANASAKHS: Ypoqetw oti oloi oi arxhgoi qa ejefrasan tis apoceis toys poy den qa afistantai apo ayta poy dhmosiws yposthrizoyn. Bebaiws, mia kleisth syzhthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton arxhgo enos kommatos, mporei na exei panta kai peraiterw shmeia. Alla, ayto einai kati allo.

An den exete allh erwthsh, na kleisw me ena qema poy exw egw:

* H N. D., xqes, anakoinwse oti asxolhqhke epi makron, sth synedriash twn Tomearxwn, me thn kampania dhmosiothtas kai probolhs twn ergwn toy B' Koinotikoy Plaisioy Sthrijhs, h opoia brisketai se ejelijh apo diaforoys foreis. Bebaiws, h N. D. exei -kata synhqeia- baries diatypwseis stis anakoinwseis ths, probainontas kai se xarakthrismoys gi` ayta, alla kai syndyazontas ta me thn proeklogikh periodo. Anakoinwnei, epishs, kai diafores draseis ths gi` ayto, to kata th dhlwsh ths "aisxos".

Apofeygw, shmera, toys xarakthrismoys. Qelw, omws, na sas enhmerwsw pws exei ayto to qema, gia na mh xreiastei na ekdwsw, argotera, grapth anakoinwsh: Ta programmata dhmosiothtas kai probolhs twn ergwn toy B' K. P. S. problepontai sta kondylia aytwn twn ergwn. Egkrinontai de, apo Epitropes stis opoies metexoyn kai koinotikoi ekproswpoi. Ginontai, oytws h allws. Ayto synebh kai me to prohgoymeno K. P. S. Ayto symbainei kai me toyto. Ayto qa ginei kai me to epomeno. H prospaqeia na syndyastoyn me tis Eyrwekloges toy Ioynioy, einai pantelws asthrikth. Poly perissotero, otan o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias k. Paxtas, apo tis 15 Aprilioy, exei steilei eggrafo -ayto, profanws, den to gnwrizei h N. D. - se oloys toys foreis poy emplekontai s` ayth th diadikasia, me to opoio zhta na anastaloyn oi energeies dhmosiothtas kai probolhs toy programmatos, apo to telos Aprilioy, enocei Eyrweklogwn. Prin, dhladh, thn typikh enarjh ths proeklogikhs periodoy.

Ayth einai h praktikh thn opoia exei akoloyqhsei h kybernhsh toy PASOK kai sto parelqon, diakoptontas ta programmata ayta, oxi giati einai programmata kommatikhs probolhs (einai programmata ta opoia problepontai kai prepei na ginontai), alla gia na mhn yparjei, estw, kakopisth kai kakoboylh kritikh gi` ayta.

Lew, mono, pros th N. D., oti ayto poy ekane, xqes, einai ena "janazestameno fai", gia ton ejhs aplo logo: Ekane, akribws, to idio pragma, enocei twn dhmotikwn eklogwn, bazontas toys eyrwboyleytes ths na paremboyn, me erwthseis pros thn armodia Epitropo, gia na stamathsoyn ta programmata ayta, enw -kai tote- eixe problefqei diakoph toys se eparkh xrono prin apo tis ekloges. Sth synexeia, h N. D. yposthrije oti ta programmata probolhs twn ergwn aytwn stamathsan me tis dikes ths, tote, energeies. Gia na einai kaqaro ki ayto, ypenqymizw oti h Epitropos ka Maties, stis dieykriniseis ths tote, eixe pei ta ejhs: "Epitrecte moy gia allh mia fora na epanalabw rhta oti sthn Ellada, apo th dikh mas skopia, synolika oxi mono exei thrhqei h kommatikh oydeterothta, alla oti epipleon exoyn lhfqei orismena idiaitera qetika metra k. lp., ta opoia, se kaqe periptwsh, einai ypodeigmatika". Ayta synebhsan to ' 98. Qymizw, epishs -kai apo thn proswpikh moy empeiria- oti stis ekloges toy 1993, me kybernhsh N. D., gia na diakopoyn ayta ta programmata thn proeklogikh periodo, eixe doqei poly megalh maxh apo to PASOK.

Ayta enhmerwtika gia to qema. Elpizw oti den qa xreiastei na epanelqw s` ayto, alla, an bebaiws xreiastei, edw eimaste.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pws ginetai, kaqe fora, treis mhnes prin apo ekloges, na ginetai ayto;

AQANASAKHS: Oxi, ginetai olo to xrono. An deite thn anaptyjh aytwn twn programmatwn...

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pio prin, den eixame tetoia...

AQANASAKHS: Kanete laqos. Sas plhroforw, loipon, oti ta programmata ayta dhmosiothtas kai probolhs, problepoyn mia seira drashs. Orismenes einai sta MME, alles einai ekdhlwseis, ekdoseis k. lp. Kaqe ergo exei to programma toy. Ayta ginontai edw kai para polloys mhnes. Mporei ena meros na ginetai sthn perifereia kai na mhn to exete dei egkairws gia na to kataggeilete, ean qelate na to kataggeilete.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati na qelw na to kataggeilw.

AQANASAKHS: Ypoqeseis kanw, k. Stamatopoyle. Kai symplhrwnw: Ta programmata ayta qa synexistoyn kai meta tis ekloges. Ayta poy, twra, anastellontai, efoson ta erga synexizontai kai yparxei h problech gia th dhmosiothta kai th probolh toys, qa synexistoyn meta tis ekloges. Mhn anhsyxeite.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw den anhsyxw kaqoloy.

AQANASAKHS: Oyte egw.

Sas eyxaristw. Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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