Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-04-13

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 13 Aprilioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai Xronia Polla.

Qa hqela arxika na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, aytwn twn hmerwn.

* Synedriase shmera ypo ton Prwqypoyrgo h diypoyrgikh omada poy asxoleitai me ta qemata toy ejoplistikoy programmatos. Sas anakoinwnw oti problepetai stis 30 Aprilioy, hmera Paraskeyh, na synedriasei to KYSEA gia na labei th telikh apofash epi toy qematos aytoy.

Stis 2 meta to meshmeri, exei synergasia me ton Grammatea ths K. E. K. Skandalidh enocei kai ths synedriashs toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy to apogeyma, alla kai ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs to Sabbato.

To apogeyma, stis 7 h wra, qa synedriasei to Ektelestiko Grafeio toy PASOK.

* Ayrio to prwi, stis 10, o Prwqypoyrgos, enocei ths Synodoy Koryfhs toy NATO poy qa diejaxqei thn epomenh ebdomada, qa synergastei me toys synarmodioys ypoyrgoys Amynas kai Ejwterikwn.

Argotera, stis 13.30, qa anaxwrhsei gia tis Bryjelles, prokeimenoy na labei meros sthn ektakth Synodo Koryfhs poy qa ginei ekei, to apogeyma.

* Thn Pempth to prwi o Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei th Sofia, meta apo proswpikh prosklhsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy ths Boylgarias k. Kostof kai qa epistrecei arga to meshmeri sthn Aqhna.

* Thn Paraskeyh stis 10 to prwi qa episkefqei ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias k. Stefanopoylo, sto plaisio twn taktikwn synanthsewn toys.

Stis 11 h wra qa synedriasei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph me kyrio antikeimeno syzhthshs thn epikeimenh Synodo Koryfhs toy NATO.

* To Sabbato synedriazei h Kentrikh Epitroph toy PASOK me qema tis Eyrwekloges.

* Thn Kyriakh o Prwqypoyrgos anaxwrei gia tis HPA. Qa metabei kat' arxhn sth Nea Yorkh opoy qa labei meros se seira ekdhlwsewn, me symmetoxh omogenwn. Akoloyqws, qa metabei sthn Oyasigkton opoy qa labei meros, epikefalhs ths ellhnikhs antiproswpeias, sth Synodo Koryfhs toy NATO.

Ayta, se genikes grammes. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas:

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia "diypoyrgikh omada" eipate sthn arxh. Poioi einai aytoi, poy shmera synedriasan ypo ton Prwqypoyrgo;

REPPAS: Htan o k. Tsoxatzopoylos, o k. Papantwnioy, h hgesia twn Enoplwn Dynamewn kai synergates toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qelw na rwthsw, giati aytes tis meres apo ola ta diktya kai ths Eyrwphs kai ths Amerikhs akoygetai to onoma "Makedonia". Mia kai meta apo liges meres sthn Oyasigkton, o k. Shmiths kai o k. Gkligkorwf qa baloyn thn ypografh toys, exete kati na mas peite; Ti akribws, poy einai h alhqeia, pws akribws einai to qema gyrw apo thn onomasia twn Skopiwn;

REPPAS: Prwta ap' ola qewreite dedomeno oti qa teqoyn ypografes katw apo kapoio keimeno symfwnias, oson afora thn onomasia. Kati tetoio den epikeitai. To qema ths onomasias antimetwpizetai sto plaisio toy OHE. Oi syzhthseis den exoyn wrimasei, den exoyn ftasei s' ena stadio wste na prokyptei symfwnia. Bebaiws, o k. Gkligkorof exei zhthsei na synanthsei ton Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo. H synanthsh ayth qa ginei, problepetai sto programma, alla sto plaisio ayths ths Synodoy Koryfhs kai sto periqwrio twn kyriwn ergasiwn ths, qa ginoyn polles synanthseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy me jenoys hgetes. Den exoyn programmatistei alles synanthseis. Eidikws gia ayth th synanthsh, poy aforoyse to erwthma sas, mporw na pw oti exei ypoblhqei sxetiko aithma apo thn pleyra toy k. Gkligkorof. Kai qa ginei ayth h synanthsh, xwris omws to periexomeno ths na einai ayto -ej oswn gnwrizoyme- to opoio anaferetai se sxetika dhmosieymata. Exei zhthsei synanthsh o k. Gkligkorwf kai exei labei qetikh apanthsh. Ayto einai olo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pote qa ginei ayto;

REPPAS: Qa ginei sto plaisio ths Synodoy Koryfhs, tis hmeres ekeines. Stis 25 toy mhnos kat' arxhn. To programma qa epishmopoihqei tis epomenes hmeres. Einai ena poly fortwmeno programma kai pisteyoyme oti ola qa pane etsi wste na ajiopoihqoyn oi hmeres aytes ths paramonhs toy Prwqypoyrgoy ekei, prokeimenoy na problhqoyn oi eqnikes qeseis kai na prowqhqoyn ta eqnika symferonta.

SOYGLERHS: S' ayth th synanthsh o k. Shmiths qa apaithsei na syzhthqei mono h ekdosh enos keimenoy xwris ypografes opws akoygetai kai legetai; Na pame gia allh hmeromhnia;

REPPAS: Den exei oristei atzenta syzhthshs, h opoia na problepei ayto to qema. Ara, loipon, parelkei na syzhtoyme otidhpote sxetiko ayth thn wra.

MIXAHL: Pro hmerwn, to Sabbato an den kanw laqos, diaceysate analogo dhmosieyma to opoio egine, peri ypografhs symfwnias twn dyo pleyrwn gia to onoma. Wstoso, qelw na sas qesw to ejhs erwthma: H paroysa katastash sta Balkania, epitrepei kata thn ektimhsh ths kybernhshs na synexizetai ayth h ekkremothta;

REPPAS: To oti yparxei ayth h ekkremothta gia arketo kairo, den empodise na anaptyxqoyn oi sxeseis twn dyo kratwn, den empodise thn Ellada na symbalei me ton kalytero tropo sthn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn poy exoyn prokycei logw toy megaloy prosfygikoy kymatos sto geitoniko kratos twn Skopiwn. Eipa, apantwntas se alles erwthseis tis prohgoymenes hmeres, oti h katastash ayth etsi opws diamorfwqhke, mia katastash poy efere poly konta ta dyo krath -synergazomena gia thn antimetwpish aytoy toy megaloy problhmatos, twn synepeiwn poy proekycan meta thn krish sto Kosyfopedio- mporei na pei kaneis oti dhmioyrgei ena allo kalytero periballon, wste h allh pleyra na deijei megalyterh katanohsh kai etsi na antimetwpistei kai na lyqei oristika kai to ekkremes qema ths onomasias. Pera apo ayto den yparxei otidhpote allo.

MIXAHL: Eseis, ayto poy perigrafetai ws th shmerinh katastash oti exei dhmioyrghqei ena kalytero periballon, exete deigmata mias stashs apo thn pleyra twn Skopiwn poy antapokrinetai s' ayto to kalytero periballon;

REPPAS: Einai oi topoqethseis, oi dhlwseis twn ajiwmatoyxwn twn Skopiwn, oi opoies exoyn ginei kai dhmosiws, peran twn oswn exoyn anaferei oi epikefalhs toy geitonikoy kratoys se kat' idian synanthseis poy exoyn me toys Ellhnes ypoyrgoys poy episkefthkan to geitoniko kratos, tis teleytaies hmeres. Exoyn pei oti h Ellada einai strathgikos etairos, exoyn anagnwrisei ton poly shmantiko, to qetiko rolo poy exei diadramatisei h Ellada, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisoyn thn krish, h opoia kyriws aytoys exei plhjei, opws kai th geitonikh Albania, pragma to opoio deixnei pws antilambanontai th sxesh toys me thn Ellada ws mia sxesh h opoia einai kaqoristikh gia to mellon kai toy dikoy toys kratoys.

MIXAHL: Kyrie Ypoyrge, epitrecte moy na epimeinw. Yparxei h plhroforia oti h pleyra twn Skopiwn -akribws gia toys logoys poy eseis eipate twra kai to exoyn pei kai oi idioi stis teleytaies, nees, dhlwseis toys- qa hqele na proxwrhsei se mia seira anabaqmishs, peraiterw sxesewn me thn Ellada, opws gia paradeigma th synach symfwnoy amyntikhs synergasias twn dyo pleyrwn. Yparxei omws to typiko, nomiko problhma toy onomatos. Pws mporei na jeperastei ayto to problhma;

REPPAS: Emeis -to exw pei allwste kat' epanalhch- qewroyme pws prepei to kratos twn Skopiwn na parameinei, ws kratikh ontothta, sto plaisio twn shmerinwn synorwn toy. Exoyme pei oti qa symbaloyme se kaqe prospaqeia, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisei to geitoniko kratos, xwris peraiterw klydwnismoys kai problhmata, thn krish poy to exei plhjei. Exoyme pei oti qa prwtostathsoyme se energeies kai prwtoboylies, prokeimenoy h notioanatolikh Eyrwph, ta Balkania, na ajiopoihsoyn tis eykairies poy toys parexontai jepernwntas toys kindynoys poy yparxoyn shmera, me thn ekponhsh sxediwn anaptyjhs gia na dhmioyrghsoyn synqhkes eyhmerias gia toys laoys sthn perioxh, poy shmera dokimazontai, me thn eisagwgh sygxronwn koinoboyleytikwn kai dhmokratikwn qesmwn, me to na symbaloyme wste oi koinwnies twn xwrwn aytwn na ginoyn sygxrones eyrwpaikes koinwnies. Kai bebaiws, qeloyme na diadramatisoyme -opws kanoyme mexri twra- to rolo ths gefyras poy qa syndeei tis xwres aytes me megaloys dieqneis organismoys, opws einai to NATO kai h E. E. Oi prwtoboylies aytes einai se ejelijh. Exei diatypwsei sxetikh skech o k. Fiser, alla prepei na sas pw oti, meta th Synodo twn Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn toy NATO, kai o Ellhnas Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn exei kanei sxetikes dhlwseis kai prokeitai apo koinoy me th Roymania, th Boylgaria alla kai thn Toyrkia -efoson endiaferetai- na analhfqoyn prwtoboylies s' ayth thn kateyqynsh. Kai bebaiws, pantote se epafh kai synennohsh kai me ta alla krath, opws einai to kratos twn Skopiwn kai h Albania kai -giati oxi- h Gioygkoslabia.

Apo kei kai pera, oi dimereis sxeseis ths Ellados kai toy kratoys twn Skopiwn einai se kalo epipedo. Asfalws yparxoyn polla periqwria beltiwshs. Sthn kateyqynsh ayth emeis epiqymoyme na kinhqoyn oi sxeseis twn dyo xwrwn. Oi emporikes kai oikonomikes sxeseis mporei na proaxqoyn akomh perissotero. Einai gnwstes oi protaseis poy exei kanei o k. Gkligkorof pros thn Ellada, pros to Dhmosio h kai idiwtikoys foreis na analaboyn prwtoboylies kai na proxwrhsoyn se ependytika programmata sth xwra toy. Emeis pisteyoyme oti h epomenh periodos, efoson jeperasoyme tis synepeies ths krishs sto Kosyfopedio, qa einai poly kalyterh, oson afora tis dimereis sxeseis. Kai ayto einai kati to opoio prepei na epidiwkoyme.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Anejarthtws twn oswn leme emeis, h Ellas, eseis symmerizeste thn apoch toy k. Milosebits oti den qa xreiastei na allajei onoma to kratos twn Skopiwn, na perimenoyme ligo; Kai deyteron, xrhsimopoiw to rhma poy xrhsimopoihsate prohgoymenws, mhpws epikeitai kai kapoia synanthsh metajy twn hgesiwn Toyrkias-Elladas gia na arxisei o ellhnotoyrkikos dialogos;

REPPAS: Oson afora to deytero qema, den exei prosdioristei tetoia synanthsh, den problepetai sto programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Asfalws, sto plaisio tetoiwn koryfaiwn diaskecewn pantote yparxei dynatothta, se ena xwro poy kinoyntai polloi hgetes na synanthqoyn kai na antallajoyn kapoies apoceis. Pantws, den exei programmatistei, den problepetai ayth thn wra poy syzhtoyme synanthsh twn hgetwn Elladas kai Toyrkias. Kai bebaia, eimaste poly makria apo ena endexomeno, san ayto sto opoio eseis anaferqhkate me thn erwthsh sas gia thn enarjh ellhnotoyrkikoy dialogoy me to xarakthra kai to periexomeno poy eseis prosdidete se ayth thn frash.

Oson afora to prwto qema, asfalws exoyme diaforetikh apoch. Gi' ayto akribws den exoyme symfwnhsei sto plaisio twn diadikasiwn poy ejelissontai, ypo thn aigida toy OHE kai exoyn sxesh me thn onomasia toy geitonikoy kratoys. O k. Milosebits palaiotera eixe diatypwsei mia tetoia qesh. Den mas briskei symfwnoys. Emeis pisteyoyme oti to kratos twn Skopiwn qa deijei mia pio eyelikth, pio epoikodomhtikh kai paragwgikh stash, sto plaisio ayths ths diadikasias toy OHE, prokeimenoy kai ayto to qema na lyqei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Exei h Kybernhsh kati ypoch ths gia toys Ellhnes foithtes sth Gioygkoslabia; Prokeitai na kanei kapoia nomoqetikh ryqmish; Prokeitai na toys parei edw; Ti qa kanei;

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh den antimetwpizei tetoio qema. Oi foithtes poy spoydazoyn sto ejwteriko, exoyn me dikh toys eyqynh epilejei toys topoys, ta panepisthmia opoy qa kanoyn tis spoydes toys. Emeis, otan prokyptoyn ektaktes katastaseis, symballoyme wste na mhn tiqetai se kindyno h zwh toys. Apo ekei kai pera, bebaiws, h Kybernhsh den protiqetai na proxwrhsei se opoiadhpote nomoqetikh prwtoboylia, h opoia qa afora to kaqestws spoydwn kapoias kathgorias foithtwn poy shmera foitoyn se panepisthmia toy ejwterikoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: To panepisthmio sthn Pristina isopedwqhke. Poy qa pane; Mporoyn na epistrecoyn ekei;

REPPAS: Den einai kaqoloy eykolo kaqe fora na probainoyme se ryqmiseis, prokeimenoy sta ellhnika panepisthmia na foitoyn pleon foithtes, oi opoioi kat' arxhn epelejan na spoydasoyn sto ejwteriko, gia dikoys toys logoys. Einai dikaiwma toys, den to krinw ayto. Antilambaneste pws ton prwto logo exoyn ta panepisthmia, ta opoia, opws katalabainete, den exoyn mia qetikh proseggish se tetoioy eidoys qemata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, otan ta epelejan, den yphrxe polemos.

REPPAS: Apanthsa k. Stamatopoyle. Otan jeperastei h krish, mh qewreite oti oi katoikoi toy Kossyfopedioy h ths Pristinas qa pacoyn na spoydazoyn. Asfalws, to kratos, oi topikes arxes qa kanoyn oles tis katallhles epiloges, qa ajiopoihsoyn tis ypodomes poy exoyn sth diaqesh toys, prokeimenoy na synexistoyn kai ta programmata spoydwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw den rwtaw gia toys katoikoys ths Pristina, rwtaw gia toys ellhnes foithtes poy spoydazoyn ekei.

REPPAS: Opoioi epelejan na spoydasoyn sto ejwteriko, gnwrizoyn oti spoydazoyn katw apo tis idies synqhkes, me tis opoies spoydazoyn kai oi foithtes ths sygkekrimenhs perioxhs kai toy sygkekrimenoy panepisthmiakoy idrymatos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai kati akoma: H Kybernhsh symfwnei me ayto to sxedio poy prowqeitai apo tis HPA kai to NATO gia dixotomhsh toy Kosoboy;

REPPAS: Exoyme milhsei kat' epanalhch gia thn anagkh na anazhthqei, dia ths politikhs odoy, mia lysh sthn krish toy Kossyfopedioy, h opoia qa problepei eyreia aytonomia toy Kossyfopedioy sto plaisio twn shmerinwn synorwn ths Gioygkoslabias. Oi syzhthseis oi opoies ginontai den exoyn odhghsei se diatypwsh allwn protasewn. Bebaiws, diatypwnontai skeceis se diafora epipeda, alla sta epishma organa koryfhs den exoyn diatypwqei diaforetikes proseggiseis. H qesh mas paramenei h idia, oson afora th diathrhsh twn shmerinwn synorwn sth Balkanikh. Einai mia qesh, h opoia briskei symfwnoys - aythn ekfrazoyn allwste- kai toys hgetes twn allwn xwrwn.

ALEJAKH: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qelw na epanelqw sto qema twn Skopiwn: Sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn yparxei pali mia syzhthsh gia to onoma " Slabomakedonia". Yparxei periptwsh emeis na epanaferoyme ayth thn istoria twra kai na proteinoyme kati tetoio;

REPPAS: Apanthsa gia ola ayta ta qemata prin. Den gnwrizw poios diatypwnei poia skech. Sas lew oti to qema ayto syzhteitai sto plaisio toy OHE. Den exei epiteyxqei proseggish. Ara den eimaste sta proqyra kapoias symfwnias, h opoia na afora ena onoma san ayto, metajy twn pollwn allwn poy akoygetai kai sto opoio anaferqhkate ki eseis.

ALEJAKH: Kai kati akoma kyrie Ypoyrge, eipate prohgoymenws oti den problepetai synanthsh metajy toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai endexomenws toy k. Ntemirel poy qa brisketai sthn Oyasigkton kai oti den arxizei o dialogos. Wstoso, yparxei ena zhthma, apo th mia meria me to atypo empargko -gia to opoio sas exoyme janarwthsei kai den phrame kapoia sygkekrimenh apanthsh- kai yparxei kai ena allo zhthma piesewn apo thn amerikanikh pleyra, wste na amblynqoyn ligo oi tetamenes kata kairoys sxeseis me thn Toyrkia. Mhpws sta plaisia ayta, eykairias doqeishs, yparjei kapoia synanthsh kai arxisei kapoia syzhthsh metajy twn dyo pleyrwn;

REPPAS: Oson afora to qema toy empargko, exoyme apanthsei, exw kanei kapoio sxolio. Sas eipa oti eimaste entos twn programmatwn poy exoyme ejaggeilei. Sas anakoinwsa shmera thn hmeromhnia synedriashs toy KYSEA, prokeimenoy na labei tis telikes apofaseis. To ejoplistiko programma qa proxwrhsei kanonika. Den dikaiologeitai anhsyxia kai fobos gia piqanh kaqysterhsh.

Oson afora to qema twn synanthsewn stis HPA, sto plaisio ths Synodoy Koryfhs toy NATO, hmoyn safhs. O k. Gkligkorof -gia na kanw ayth thn antidiastolh- zhthse ranteboy kai qa ginei ayth h synanthsh me ton k. Shmith. Den exei programmatistei opoiadhpote allh synanthsh. Den exei ypoblhqei allo aithma ek meroys ths Toyrkias gia synanthsh me ton Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo. H ellhnikh kybernhsh h o Prwqypoyrgos den diatypwnei kapoio antistoixo aithma gia synanthsh me ton epikefalhs ths toyrkikhs antiproswpeias. Ara den exei perilhfqei sto programma opoiadhpote tetoia synanthsh.

DHMAKAS: Sthn eswterikh skhnh: yparxoyn eishghseis ek neoy ston Prwqypoyrgo gia diples ekloges ton Ioynio; Tis ejetazei o Prwqypoyrgos kai poia einai h qesh toy;

REPPAS: Den yparxei tetoio qema. Eimai kathgorhmatikos. Aporriptw kaqe tetoia idea oti einai piqano na diejaxqoyn taytoxrona eqnikes ekloges kai ekloges gia to Eyrwkoinoboylio ton erxomeno Ioynio. Den antimetwpizei tetoio qema h kybernhsh.

MIXAHL: Meta th xqesinh synodo twn YPEJ toy NATO kai to anakoinwqen poy ejedoqh, to neo stoixeio einai h ekklhsh, me h xwris eisagwgika, gia symmetoxh se kapoies prwtoboylies kai ths Rwsias. Exoyme kai th synanthsh ths kas Olmprait me to Rwso omologo ths. H ellhnikh kybernhsh ti anamenei apo th diaskech poy qa diejaxqei tis epomenes hmeres, toso apo tetoioy eidoys synanthseis san ayth poy pragmatopoieitai shmera, oso kai apo alles prwtoboylies poy endexomenws na ekdhlwqoyn, opws akoyme h diabazoyme, ayrio, apo ton k. Srenter;

REPPAS: Emeis exoyme topoqethqei qetika kai exoyme dhlwsei thn yposthrijh mas sthn protash poy diatypwse h Germania, h opoia paramenei sto trapezi, qa thn epanaferei o k. Srenter. Protash, poy metajy twn allwn problepei thn ajiopoihsh toy roloy ths Rwsias me thn enarjh twn diadikasiwn sygklhshs toy Symboylioy Asfaleias toy OHE, prokeimenoy na anaptyxqei mia dieqnhs eirhneytikh dynamh poy qa epithrhsei thn efarmogh ths opoias lyshs symfwnhqei gia thn krish sto Kosyfopedio. Na elpisoyme h shmerinh synanthsh twn dyo ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn HPA kai Rwsias na stefqei apo epityxia. Elpizoyme, ayth thn ystath wra, na ajiopoihqoyn oi opoies dynatothtes yparxoyn, prokeimenoy dia ths politikhs odoy na ejeyreqei mia lysh. Pantote se prwtoboylies, oi opoies dinoyn probadisma sthn eirhneytikh odo, prokeimenoy na ftasoyme sth lysh toy problhmatos, emeis qa parexoyme th sthrijh mas kai qa eimaste metajy ekeinwn poy qa epiqymoyn kai qa prosferoyn, prokeimenoy ta pragmata na katalhjoyn oso ginetai kalytera. Kalytera gia toys laoys poy dokimazontai sthn perioxh, gia thn eirhneysh ths perioxhs, gia na epanelqei h omalothta poy oloi epiqymoyme. Ayth einai h qesh mas. Apo kei kai pera, bebaiws, prepei na antilhfqoyme kai ta oria twn dynatothtwn. Ta oria twn dynatothtwn mas pisteyoyme oti emeis peripoy ta exoyme ejantlhsei, askwntas ton epoikodomhtiko rolo mas ws xwra poy einai melos toy NATO kai ths E. E., alla taytoxrona einai kai mia xwra ths opoias ta symferonta sthn perioxh einai neyralgika kai exoyn teqei se kindyno. Ayta prospaqoyme na perifroyrhsoyme kai pisteyw oti to epitygxanoyme.

ALEJAKH: Xqes, metadoqhke apo th gioygkoslabikh thleorash kai to eida se kapoio kanali, oti exoyn metaferqei apo to Beligradi sth Qessalonikh 40 ptwmata stratiwtwn toy NATO. Jerete kati, exete kapoies plhrofories gia ola ayta ta opoia akoygontai kata kairoys gia ptwmata sto aerodromio Makedonia h se alla shmeia;

REPPAS: Jeroyme oti ayta den antapokrinontai sthn pragmatikothta.

Eyxaristw poly.

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